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F23 System Wide Change: Netizen Spin
by Jan Kurik 23 Jun '15

23 Jun '15

= Proposed Self Contained Change: Netizen Spin = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Netizen_Spin Change owner(s): Corey Leong <cleong at fedoraproject dot org> A Fedora Spin for promoting and supporting internet citizenship and citizen engagement. == Detailed Description == Fedora Netizen is an open source operating system for enabling internet citizens to engage with online services and communities. The goal for Netizen is to pattern the operating system's features after Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs which was published in his 1943 paper, "A Theory of Human Motivation". As a professor of pyschology, Abraham Maslow theorized that individuals attempt to experience five stages of needs starting with physiological, safety, social, esteem, and then ending with self-actualization. Beginning with the first level of physiological needs, individuals' motivational needs ascend upwards to higher levels of needs in order, however, only after establishing lower levels of needs first before ascending to the next level. The philosophy for Netizen closely relates to Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs by establishing three primary software package levels in a hierarchical model. The first and lowest software package level addresses the need for Netizen Privacy in the areas of personal privacy, informational privacy, and communication privacy. After Netizen Privacy, the second software package level addresses the need for Netizen Security in the areas of data security, local security, and network security. After Netizen Security, the third software package level addresses the need for Netizen Engagement in the areas of publishing, education, and social engagement. Future Netizen software package levels will address analytics, awareness, design, develop, and others. == Scope == A Netizen theme is the final requirement to be developed per marketing department support of a look and feel in order to replace the current default theme. This is an isolated change. * Other developers: N/A (not a System Wide Change) * Release engineering: Add spin to spin-kickstarts, ensure spin has been tested, and release with rest of spins * Policies and guidelines: N/A (not a System Wide Change) -- Jan Kuřík _______________________________________________ devel-announce mailing list devel-announce(a)lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce

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GCC 5 compatibility problems: GCC 4.10?
by Paolo Bonzini 20 Jun '15

20 Jun '15

Hi all, I'm encountering a few problems with GCC 5 due to code that fails to work with GCC major releases above 4. In particular, there are at least problems with the kernel and with Coverity. Unfortunately, downgrading to Fedora 21's GCC 4.9 is very hard in Fedora 22, unless you only care about the C compiler. This is because the C++ compiler wants a matching libstdc++, and most C++ packages need the GCC 5 libstdc++ (maybe because of the ABI changes, I don't know). Is it outrageous to ask for a "compatibility" GCC package that declares itself as 4.10? This is similar to how kernel 3.0 was initially packaged as 2.6.40. Or perhaps there is another possibility that I haven't thought of? Thanks, Paolo

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[Guidelines change] Changes to the packaging guidelines
by Jason L Tibbitts III 17 Jun '15

17 Jun '15

Here are the recent changes to the packaging guidelines: The policy for systemd presets has been modified to merge the individual treatments of service, socket and timer units into one policy. The policy page was also moved into the packaging guidelines proper. * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:DefaultServices * https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Packaging%3ADefaultServices&dif… * https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/532 ----- Slightly modified the per-product configuration guidelines to account for changes in the os-release file. * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Per-Product_Configuration * https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Packaging%3APer-Product_Configu… * https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/520#comment:7 ----- New guidelines for the consistent usage of SSL certificates by applications have been added. * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:SSLCertificateHandling * https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/480 ----- It is now mandatory that modules which support python3 be packaged for python3. Python modules which support both python2 and python3 may be packages for both, or just python3. Packaging of modules which support only python2 are unaffected. * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Python * https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Packaging%3APython&diff=413621&… * https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/526 ----- The AppData packaging guidelines have been updated to include information about addon packages, and to use appstream-util instead of appdata-validate. * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:AppData * https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Packaging%3AAppData&diff=413661… * https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/527 ----- The R Packaging guidelines have been revised to indicate that the DESCRIPTION file should not be marked %doc, as it is actually required for operation of the R package and needs to be present even when installed with --excludedocs. * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:R * https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Packaging%3AR&diff=413668&oldid… * https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/535 ----- The BuildRequires section of the guidelines has been revised; the exceptions list is gone. The release engineering folks are free to define the buildroot and rpm is free to change its dependency list. * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#BuildRequires_2 * https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Packaging%3AGuidelines&diff=413… * https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/497 _______________________________________________ devel-announce mailing list devel-announce(a)lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce

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Intel driver pain
by Sergio Belkin 16 Jun '15

16 Jun '15

Hi, Could you tell me if anyone else is having this kind of issues: [vie may 29 07:01:22 2015] [drm] Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810 [vie may 29 07:01:22 2015] [drm] Memory usable by graphics device = 2048M [vie may 29 07:01:22 2015] fb: switching to inteldrmfb from EFI VGA [vie may 29 07:01:22 2015] [drm] Replacing VGA console driver [vie may 29 07:01:22 2015] [drm] Supports vblank timestamp caching Rev 2 (21.10.2013). [vie may 29 07:01:22 2015] [drm] Driver supports precise vblank timestamp query. [vie may 29 07:01:22 2015] [drm] Initialized i915 1.6.0 20150130 for 0000:00:02.0 on minor 0 [vie may 29 07:01:22 2015] fbcon: inteldrmfb (fb0) is primary device [vie may 29 07:01:22 2015] [drm:intel_set_pch_fifo_underrun_reporting [i915]] *ERROR* uncleared pch fifo underrun on pch transcoder A [vie may 29 07:01:22 2015] [drm:intel_pch_fifo_underrun_irq_handler [i915]] *ERROR* PCH transcoder A FIFO underrun [vie may 29 07:01:23 2015] i915 0000:00:02.0: fb0: inteldrmfb frame buffer device Thanks in advance -- -- Sergio Belkin http://www.sergiobelkin.com LPIC-2 Certified - http://www.lpi.org

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libblockdev reaches the 1.0 milestone!
by Vratislav Podzimek 16 Jun '15

16 Jun '15

A year ago, I started working on a new storage library for low-level operations with various types of block devices -- *libblockdev*. Today, I'm happy to announce that the library reached the **1.0** milestone which means that it covers all the functionality that has been stated in the initial goals and it's going to keep the API stable. Read the blog post I wrote for more information: http://blog-vpodzime.rhcloud.com/?p=61 -- Vratislav Podzimek Anaconda Rider | Red Hat, Inc. | Brno - Czech Republic

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fedup for F23 and beyond
by Will Woods 15 Jun '15

15 Jun '15

[tl;dr: fedup is going away and should be re-implemented by the system packaging tools.] Hey all, F22 is the fifth release we've handled with fedup. A lot has changed since F17, and we've learned some valuable lessons about how upgrades work (and how they fail). We've come to the conclusion that the current design is unsupportable, mostly due to upgrade.img, which turns out to cause more problems than it solves[1]. So! For F23, fedup needs to be redesigned. Here's how it should work: 1) Download packages for the new system 2) Use the systemd Offline Updates[2] facility to install packages This is really simple - simple enough that it should probably be provided by the system packaging tools themselves. As a proof-of-concept, I've implemented it as a DNF plugin, which you can see here[3]: https://github.com/wgwoods/dnf-plugin-fedup This behavior could also be implemented by PackageKit, which would make it easy to write a proper GUI. So that's the plan: drop upgrade.img, move upgrade support into the system packaging tools. Sometimes simpler is better. -w [1] For example, here are three F22 release-blockers, all caused by upgrade.img: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1185604 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1209941 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1207251 That first one is a nasty crash inside systemd, which led to a mailing-list discussion[1a] where Lennart concludes that the double-switchroot thing we're doing with upgrade.img is just not supportable[1b]. And I totally agree. [1a] http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2015-March/029030.html [1b] http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2015-April/031013.html [2] http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/SystemUpdates/ [3] It works just fine in F21, if you're feeling brave..

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Unison in Fedora
by Richard W.M. Jones 15 Jun '15

15 Jun '15

[Previous discussion here: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2011-September/thread.html#… ] Unison is a fairly widely used file synchronization package. Think of it as a more efficient, multi-directional 'rsync'. Unison has the unfortunate property that versions of Unison are not compatible with each other unless they have the exact same major.minor release. eg. Unison 2.40.128 is compatible with Unison 2.40.102, but incompatible with Unison 2.48.3 (the latest upstream). The reason that matters is you might be running Unison across multiple machines, running different Linux distros, which have different versions of Unison. For this reason, Fedora packages three different Unison branches in separate packages: - unison213 (currently Unison 2.13.16) - unison227 (currently Unison 2.27.57) - unison240 (currently Unison 2.40.128) - There was a "unison" package, but it is retired We don't package the latest upstream (Unison 2.48.3) at all[1]. For comparison, Debian packages: - unison2.27.57 - unison2.32.52 - unison (which contains 2.40.x) - unison-all, a meta-package, which pulls in all of the above AFAICT Debian also does not package the latest upstream version. So you can see that someone who needed to synchronize across Fedora and Debian machines would have two compatible choices: - Fedora unison227 <-> Debian unison2.27.57 - Fedora unison240 <-> Debian unison Anyway, I think this situation is crazy. One reason is that in order to add the latest upstream Unison (2.48) I'm going to have to submit a new unison248 package[1]. And then if there's another version, I'll have to submit a new package for that. I think Fedora should have a single "unison" source package, and it should contain the multiple upstream branch sources and build different binary subpackages. The binary subpackages would have the same names as now (unison227 etc), making this a compatible update for existing Fedora Unison users. This way I only need to submit a single new package review, we can delete the unison2xx source packages, and there'll be a single place for unison in Fedora for ever more. Discuss ... Rich. [1] BTW there is a COPR build of unison248 if you search for it. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones Read my programming and virtualization blog: http://rwmj.wordpress.com libguestfs lets you edit virtual machines. Supports shell scripting, bindings from many languages. http://libguestfs.org

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Changing Fedora account profile image
by Taylor Braun-Jones 06 Jun '15

06 Jun '15

How do I change my Fedora account profile? It doesn't seem to support Gravatar and I can find anyway to change it. For example on this page: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packager/nocnokneo/ I see that I can change all my other account details here: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/user/view/nocnokneo But not my profile image... Thanks, Taylor

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fedora-easy-karma: InsecurePlatformWarning
by Reindl Harald 05 Jun '15

05 Jun '15

i am not sure for which package file a bug Waiting for Bodhi for a list of packages in updates-testing (F21)... /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/requests/packages/urllib3/util/ssl_.py:90: InsecurePlatformWarning: A true SSLContext object is not available. This prevents urllib3 from configuring SSL appropriately and may cause certain SSL connections to fail. For more information, see https://urllib3.readthedocs.org/en/latest/security.html#insecureplatformwar…. InsecurePlatformWarning

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Fedora 22 and missing applications
by Richard Hughes 04 Jun '15

04 Jun '15

Quite a few people are going to be installing Fedora 22 in the coming days, searching for things in the software center and not finding their esoteric GUI tool. This is because some applications still don’t ship AppData files, which have become compulsory in the workstation spin for this release. Luckily, the vast majority of applications that don't include AppData are not popular and most have little-to-no upstream activity. If you want to check an application without installing F22 you can use this link http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/screenshots/f22/matrix.html -- if you fix an application I'll be regenerating that status page every 48 hours and shipping new a metadata release in a couple of weeks. Richard

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