For your information. I stoped working for the Mate-Desktop project for f18 because for me it is imposssible to to work together with Dan Mashal. One of the reason for my decision is this last talk with Dan Mashal today.
Unterhaltung mit Dan Mashal am Di 21 Aug 2012 10:03:44 CEST: (10:03:44) Dan Mashal: hey (10:03:46) Dan Mashal: you there? (10:03:55) niceandgently@gmail.com/546AFDAD: Hi (10:04:02) Dan Mashal: i spent time on libmate today (10:04:07) Dan Mashal: please review my spec (10:04:07) dan.mashal@gmail.com heißt jetzt Dan Mashal. (10:04:12) Dan Mashal: and incorporate it to yours (10:04:28) Dan Mashal: i dont know why you deleted mate-vfs from fc17 and fc16 it just made things harder for me (10:04:33) Dan Mashal: but i worked around it (10:04:48) Dan Mashal: http://vicodan.fedorapeople.org/matespec/libmate.spec (10:04:58) Dan Mashal: THIS IS NOT FINAL JUST ME GETTING SHIT TO BUILD NO PATCHES (10:05:33) niceandgently@gmail.com/546AFDAD: my spec file is ok (10:05:47) Dan Mashal: it fails to build with fedora-review (10:05:54) Dan Mashal: that's why i pushed mate-vfs (10:05:58) Dan Mashal: which you deleted (10:06:00) Dan Mashal: agian, why I don't know (10:06:07) niceandgently@gmail.com/546AFDAD: show me the output (10:06:22) Dan Mashal: the out put just says "mate-vfs" cannot be found (10:06:27) Dan Mashal: and it fails (10:07:08) niceandgently@gmail.com/546AFDAD: any other can review without fc17 (10:07:12) Dan Mashal: so i had to manually build mate-vfs (10:07:12) Dan Mashal: install the rpm (10:07:15) niceandgently@gmail.com/546AFDAD: why not you? (10:07:37) Dan Mashal: anyone can build it on koji (10:07:48) Dan Mashal: can they build it on a local system? fresh install? (10:08:04) Dan Mashal: the build requires for libmate are as follows: (10:08:04) Dan Mashal: mate-common mate-conf-devel mate-vfs libmatecomponent-devel libcanberra-devel (10:08:39) Dan Mashal: oh and GConf2 (10:08:45) Dan Mashal: unless you use mate-conf (10:09:29) niceandgently@gmail.com/546AFDAD: again pls use my latest spec file and not th efirst one (10:09:35) Dan Mashal: i did (10:09:39) Dan Mashal: and i get error cannot find mate-vfs (10:09:45) Dan Mashal: so i pushed mate-vfs (10:09:45) Dan Mashal: and you deleted it (10:09:49) Dan Mashal: so why did you delete it? (10:09:53) Dan Mashal: because of your fucking repo/ (10:10:52) niceandgently@gmail.com/546AFDAD: because we build anymore for f16/f17, see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=849449 (10:11:00) niceandgently@gmail.com/546AFDAD: Talk with Rex (10:11:07) Dan Mashal: that's not my problem (10:11:10) Dan Mashal: that's your problem (10:11:12) Dan Mashal: you built mate-conf (10:11:14) Dan Mashal: not me. (10:11:28) Dan Mashal: you fix it. (10:11:29) Dan Mashal: i dont touch your packages. (10:11:57) niceandgently@gmail.com/546AFDAD: pls do not review libmate and libmateui from me (10:12:07) Dan Mashal: sorry wolfang (10:12:12) Dan Mashal: I'm pretty fucking had it with you (10:12:17) Dan Mashal: and your fucking repo. (10:12:20) niceandgently@gmail.com/546AFDAD: i know other pepple who can do that (10:12:24) Dan Mashal: Tomorrow Rex is going to create a Fedorapeople repo. (10:12:58) Dan Mashal: stay behaved. (10:13:10) Dan Mashal: a lot of people are noticing you in a negative light, without me saying anything. (10:13:27) niceandgently@gmail.com/546AFDAD: no (10:13:30) Dan Mashal: yes. (10:14:00) Dan Mashal: why would I lie? (10:14:02) niceandgently@gmail.com/546AFDAD: Rex prefer to stop building for f16/f17 (10:14:12) Dan Mashal: Rex prefers that you fucking get along (10:14:14) niceandgently@gmail.com/546AFDAD: you did ignore that (10:14:19) Dan Mashal: and quit acting like a child. (10:14:27) Dan Mashal: and stop wrorrying about your god damn dropbox repo (10:14:28) Dan Mashal: alright? (10:14:37) Dan Mashal: i've had enough (10:14:45) niceandgently@gmail.com/546AFDAD: me too (10:14:46) Dan Mashal: i spent 3 hours extra because you deleted mate-vfs. (10:14:53) Dan Mashal: DONT DO IT AGAIN. (10:15:15) niceandgently@gmail.com/546AFDAD: soory you don'T have the knowledge for a reviewer (10:15:25) Dan Mashal: sorry you don't have the knowledge of Fedora.
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(10:15:37) Dan Mashal: sorry you are unappreciative and selfish. (10:15:44) Dan Mashal: sorry your #1 repo is your god damn repo. (10:15:48) Dan Mashal: sorry I included you (10:15:57) Dan Mashal: sorry I taught you IRC, Koji and Bodhi (10:16:11) Dan Mashal: sorry I didn't get you removed from packaging privalidges when I had the change (10:16:14) Dan Mashal: I'd be done by now (10:16:20) Dan Mashal: sorry for giving you 2nd,3rd and 4th chances (10:16:21) Dan Mashal: whatever (10:16:23) Dan Mashal: FUCK OFF. (10:16:37) Dan Mashal: you never put yourself in anyone elses shoes but YOUR OWN (10:16:51) Dan Mashal: you know what's that's called? SELFISHNESS. (10:17:11) Dan Mashal: now if you excuse me (10:17:16) Dan Mashal: I will post my comments to libmate review. (10:19:23) Dan Mashal: mrunge will be posting his own comments as well. (10:19:34) Dan Mashal: now don't fucking rush me anymore on any more reviews ever again. (10:19:40) Dan Mashal: fucking had it. (10:35:57) Dan Mashal: there (10:36:09) Dan Mashal: hope that helps. (10:36:13) Dan Mashal: I'm repushing mate-vfs. (10:36:16) Dan Mashal: you got a problem with it (10:36:18) Dan Mashal: talk to Rex. (10:36:25) Dan Mashal: Don't talk to me anymore unless it's to apologize. (10:36:29) Dan Mashal: I've fucking had it. (10:36:36) Dan Mashal: you've had 3+ chances. (10:37:30) Dan Mashal: and don't play the wounded battered fucking wife syndrome. it's not going to work. (10:37:38) Dan Mashal: good day, mate. (10:44:58) Dan Mashal: fix mate-conf and mate-vfs or I will. (10:45:05) Dan Mashal: and don't delete my fucking update. (10:45:10) Dan Mashal: EOF (10:47:54) Dan Mashal: you fucked me on mate-icon-theme, mate-conf, and now mate-vfs (10:49:06) Dan Mashal: regarding your repo: fucking fix it. or get a fedora people repo up. (10:49:13) Dan Mashal: they are using a 3rd party unsupported repo. (10:49:17) Dan Mashal: NOT FEDORA's PROBLEM
Nobody talks with me like that!!!!
Also i will remember to his insults against me in 10 review request eg. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=844151 Dan Mashal 2012-08-06 05:05:28 EDT
Due to your mental instability and immaturity with mate-conf you are no longer welcome as a co-maintainer of the mate-desktop group. Please discontinue any further work on this package.
Sorry, my life is too beautyful without such a negativ vibes.
Another example from Dan Mashal conversation.
Unterhaltung mit Dan Mashal am So 19 Aug 2012 12:49:48 CEST: (12:49:48) Dan Mashal: hey (12:50:18) niceandgently@gmail.com/8D2F34B0: Hi (12:50:23) Dan Mashal: hows it goign (12:50:52) niceandgently@gmail.com/8D2F34B0: fine (12:51:01) Dan Mashal: warning: it's 4AM and I'm drunk (12:51:32) niceandgently@gmail.com/8D2F34B0: i'm not, it's to early (12:51:52) Dan Mashal: ok (12:51:56) Dan Mashal: i went through the wiki last night (12:52:17) Dan Mashal: we nede to fix libmate (12:53:16) niceandgently@gmail.com/8D2F34B0: what's wrong with libmate in wiki page? (12:53:27) Dan Mashal: not on wiki (12:53:29) Dan Mashal: package itself (12:53:52) niceandgently@gmail.com/8D2F34B0: and what is wrong? (12:53:59) Dan Mashal: i dont remember (12:54:03) Dan Mashal: i have to reinstall fedora AGIAN (12:54:26) Dan Mashal: some buildreqires not found (12:54:36) Dan Mashal: Fedora 18 is FUCKED
I don't need this.
Bye, Wolfgang Ulbrich
"Ri" == Rave it chat-to-me@raveit.de writes:
Ri> For your information. I stoped working for the Mate-Desktop project Ri> for f18 because for me it is imposssible to to work together with Ri> Dan Mashal. One of the reason for my decision is this last talk with Ri> Dan Mashal today.
I've watched a bunch of this go on and I agree that this person has overstepped the bounds of reasonable behavior on more than one occasion. I just wanted to ask that you not let the actions of one person color the entire community. I'm sure that a reasonable solution can be worked out in time.
- J<
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 9:59 PM, Jason L Tibbitts III tibbs@math.uh.edu wrote:
"Ri" == Rave it chat-to-me@raveit.de writes:
Ri> For your information. I stoped working for the Mate-Desktop project Ri> for f18 because for me it is imposssible to to work together with Ri> Dan Mashal. One of the reason for my decision is this last talk with Ri> Dan Mashal today.
I've watched a bunch of this go on and I agree that this person has overstepped the bounds of reasonable behavior on more than one occasion.
I completely agree.
I just wanted to ask that you not let the actions of one person color the entire community.
When the community cannot limit the actions/flames/insults of one person, this WILL fall back to the entire community. (At least for people, who will be using mate on Fedora).
I'm sure that a reasonable solution can be worked out in time.
As people prefer to leave the project instead of opening a ticket on fesco, insults by Dan nothing will change. By the way, Wolfgang is not the first one, who steps back because of insults of Dan, just the first one who posts here about it as he wants to continue on packages where Dan has no interests in. For proof, see the communication above and [1].
When someone insults people, so that they step back or completely leave the project, they should be kicked out. But as I'm not a mate user/maintainer or Dan's sponsor, I'm not directly affected by that, so we'll need to wait till someone is concerned enough about it...
Greetings, Tom
[1] https://github.com/mate-desktop/mate-doc-utils/issues/3#issuecomment-7179964
As a reminder, everyone working within the Fedora project is expected to abide by the code of conduct (http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct). If there's an interpersonal conflict that can't be resolved by the individuals or the specific subset of the project involved, please feel free to raise it with the Community Working Group at cwg@lists.fedoraproject.org, or cwg-private@lists.fedoraproject.org if you'd prefer the discussion to be private.
On 08/21/2012 11:50 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
As a reminder, everyone working within the Fedora project is expected to abide by the code of conduct (http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct). If there's an interpersonal conflict that can't be resolved by the individuals or the specific subset of the project involved, please feel free to raise it with the Community Working Group at cwg@lists.fedoraproject.org, or cwg-private@lists.fedoraproject.org if you'd prefer the discussion to be private.
I understand Dan's fairly new to Fedora - perhaps his sponsor should have a word with him.
Brendan
Rave it wrote:
For your information. I stoped working for the Mate-Desktop project for f18 because
I can understand your frustration, and that you and Dan had trouble communicating and working together.
I do wish to thank you for the positive contributions you made, and in your future endeavors.
-- rex
On 08/23/2012 04:53 PM, Rex Dieter wrote:
Rave it wrote:
For your information. I stoped working for the Mate-Desktop project for f18 because
I can understand your frustration, and that you and Dan had trouble communicating and working together.
I do wish to thank you for the positive contributions you made, and in your future endeavors.
-- rex
I agree, please do not stop contributing because of one foul-mouthed asshole.
The good ones outnumber him grossly!