The OLPC guys are asking me to split the Python bindings for libgnome and libgnomeui into a new subpackage of gnome-python2 called gnome-python2-gnome (see [1]). The rationale being that libgnome drags in extra dependencies that some of the other gnome-python2 subpackages don't need. For example, gnome-python2-gnomevfs doesn't need libgnome but still requires its parent package, gnome-python2.
This sounds like a reasonable idea to me but it will break other packages that require gnome-python2 expecting to get the libgnome[ui] bindings. Those packages would have to require gnome-python2-gnome instead.
Possibly affected packages include:
audit-viewer autobuild-applet awn-extras-applets blogtk decibel-audio-player deskbar-applet fwbackups gjots2 gnome-password-generator gnome-python2-desktop gnome-python2-extras gourmet gramps hamster-applet hwbrowser listen meld policycoreutils-gui qa-assistant rhythmbox setroubleshoot system-config-bind system-config-cluster system-config-httpd system-config-lvm system-config-netboot system-config-network system-config-printer wallpapoz
Any objections or alternate suggestions?
Thank, Matthew Barnes
On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 16:09 +0100, Tim Waugh wrote:
On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 11:03 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote:
Possibly affected packages include:
system-config-printer
Not affected by these. It only uses gnome.url_show.
gnome.url show is a binding to libgnome's gnome_url_show. So the dependencies would have to be updated to depend on gnome-python2-gnome.
Daniel
On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 11:39 -0400, Daniel Drake wrote:
gnome.url show is a binding to libgnome's gnome_url_show. So the dependencies would have to be updated to depend on gnome-python2-gnome.
Ah, I misunderstood the original email. Thanks for correcting me.
[Aside: I'm been wondering for a while about this GNOME dependency in system-config-printer, but don't know of a good replacement for gnome.url_show.]
Tim. */
On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 17:28 +0100, Tim Waugh wrote:
On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 11:39 -0400, Daniel Drake wrote:
gnome.url show is a binding to libgnome's gnome_url_show. So the dependencies would have to be updated to depend on gnome-python2-gnome.
Ah, I misunderstood the original email. Thanks for correcting me.
[Aside: I'm been wondering for a while about this GNOME dependency in system-config-printer, but don't know of a good replacement for gnome.url_show.]
The gtk in rawhide has gtk_show_uri, which is a good replacement.
Matthew Barnes wrote, at 08/01/2008 12:03 AM +9:00:
The OLPC guys are asking me to split the Python bindings for libgnome and libgnomeui into a new subpackage of gnome-python2 called gnome-python2-gnome (see [1]). The rationale being that libgnome drags in extra dependencies that some of the other gnome-python2 subpackages don't need. For example, gnome-python2-gnomevfs doesn't need libgnome but still requires its parent package, gnome-python2.
This sounds like a reasonable idea to me but it will break other packages that require gnome-python2 expecting to get the libgnome[ui] bindings. Those packages would have to require gnome-python2-gnome instead.
Possibly affected packages include:
wallpapoz
Any objections or alternate suggestions?
I maintain wallpapoz and as far as I am correct wallpapoz is also affected: wallpapoz uses
gnome.PARAM_APP_DATADIR gnome.program_init gnome.help_display
Instead, if OLPC members wants to use only non-binding part, would you consider to create gnome-python2-base (for example) and to make gnome-python2 depend on gnome-python2-base?
Regards, Mamoru
On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 13:33 -0400, Daniel Drake wrote:
On Fri, 2008-08-01 at 01:07 +0900, Mamoru Tasaka wrote:
Instead, if OLPC members wants to use only non-binding part, would you consider to create gnome-python2-base (for example) and to make gnome-python2 depend on gnome-python2-base?
That sounds like a good idea. Matthew?
Seems kind of convoluted to me. I'd rather the libgnome[ui] bindings get their own subpackage, same as the other bindings in gnome-python2. I can deal with the one-time hassle of fixing requirements breakage.
Matthew Barnes
I'm moving forward with this today and will be filing Rawhide bugs against the packages listed below. If you own any of those packages and the package does not actually use the Python bindings for libgnome or libgnomeui, just close the bug as NOTABUG with a comment stating so.
I'm hoping we can resolve these quickly and keep Rawhide breakage to a minimum.
Thanks, Matthew Barnes
On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 11:03 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote:
The OLPC guys are asking me to split the Python bindings for libgnome and libgnomeui into a new subpackage of gnome-python2 called gnome-python2-gnome (see [1]). The rationale being that libgnome drags in extra dependencies that some of the other gnome-python2 subpackages don't need. For example, gnome-python2-gnomevfs doesn't need libgnome but still requires its parent package, gnome-python2.
This sounds like a reasonable idea to me but it will break other packages that require gnome-python2 expecting to get the libgnome[ui] bindings. Those packages would have to require gnome-python2-gnome instead.
Possibly affected packages include:
audit-viewer autobuild-applet awn-extras-applets blogtk decibel-audio-player deskbar-applet fwbackups gjots2 gnome-password-generator gnome-python2-desktop gnome-python2-extras gourmet gramps hamster-applet hwbrowser listen meld policycoreutils-gui qa-assistant rhythmbox setroubleshoot system-config-bind system-config-cluster system-config-httpd system-config-lvm system-config-netboot system-config-network system-config-printer wallpapoz
Any objections or alternate suggestions?
Thank, Matthew Barnes
On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 11:03 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote:
The OLPC guys are asking me to split the Python bindings for libgnome and libgnomeui into a new subpackage of gnome-python2 called gnome-python2-gnome (see [1]).
Congrats! Definitely, that's the ugliest Fedora package name I ever heard.
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