spins September 2010

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MIA spins
by Paul W. Frields 30 Sep '10

30 Sep '10

Despite a posting to the lists earlier in the month[1] to check our spin content, apparently no one caught the fact that there was no Moblin spin among the release candidates. At this point, we're going to have to wait for mirrors to die down before we can consider shipping a late copy. I went to the Spins process page[2] to see where things might have gone off track, and found that the page stated that after acceptance the following step occurs: "Spin added to a wiki page containing a table listing all of the spins for Fedora X (very similar to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/11/FeatureList)" Note that no one is responsible or accountable for it happening according to the spin page, nor is the proper page listed. I made a change, so now the step reads: "The Spins Wrangler adds the Spin to a wiki page containing a table listing all of the spins for Fedora 14 (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/14/Spins)" This change is not a decree by any means, but it seemed like the most effective way to ensure entries get made. I can't help but think we would have caught this problem if there were regular Spins meetings, or at least schedule items that indicate the SIG should carry out a task like checking the list of Spins before RC phase. Earlier, I brought up the idea of entering a set of schedule items. Ideally, someone on the SIG will step up to gather that list of dates for Fedora 14, and talk to John Poelstra to make sure the dates get on the release schedule. I'd also like to make sure we have a clear spins wrangler who knows the responsibilities that come with that role. That person should check over the spins process page[2] and find any places where it's not clear what the task is, and who is responsible for doing it. So -- who wants to gather the schedule and report it to John Poelstra by around June 1? Who is the current spins wrangler, and can that person go over the page by around the same time, and bring questions to the list? * * * [1] http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/spins/2010-May/001131.html [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Spins_Process -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ Where open source multiplies: http://opensource.com

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Hello and a question about services included in spins
by Corentin Perard 30 Sep '10

30 Sep '10

First of all hello dear fedora contributors. I'm new on this list, so please be indulgent if I don't follow all the rules yet. And excuse my (sometimes) poor english, that's because I'm French. My question was for the spin maintainers : There is a feature (nearing completion) that was created in order to remove the default MTA from the default install. As of today I downloaded the Fedora 14 beta KDE x86_64 live spin (by the way, great job and thank you, the KDE integration is better than ever, still a few quirks, but everyone on the bugzilla is reactive when kindly asked) and have seen sendmail still installed and sendmail service enabled by default. But the feature allows for uninstallation, without compromising the rest of the system. Try a 'yum remove sendmail' : it *IS* definitely possible to remove it without having redhat-lsb, cron and a bunch of things removed. So (here it comes) why not remove sendmail from the default spins I think the spins are desktop-oriented and desktop users don't need MTA, right ? It could help save 1.5M according to yum, and allow faster boot of the live spin. That was just a suggestion, what is your opinion ? regards, Corentin

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[spin-kickstarts] Remove gnumeric and gimp and aspell. Add fpaste.
by Kevin Fenzi 29 Sep '10

29 Sep '10

commit f3b0a89834b5fde77079550e32e2cac8eb5283f6 Author: Kevin Fenzi <kevin(a)tummy.com> Date: Wed Sep 29 17:22:53 2010 -0600 Remove gnumeric and gimp and aspell. Add fpaste. Gets us back under size again. fedora-livecd-xfce.ks | 5 ++--- 1 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/fedora-livecd-xfce.ks b/fedora-livecd-xfce.ks index f9b5fa1..9cc9cb5 100644 --- a/fedora-livecd-xfce.ks +++ b/fedora-livecd-xfce.ks @@ -16,13 +16,11 @@ # Office abiword -gnumeric # Graphics evince -evince-dvi -evince-djvu -gimp # development geany @@ -88,6 +86,7 @@ wget irssi mutt yum-utils +fpaste # xfce packages @xfce-desktop @@ -143,7 +142,7 @@ xfce4-xkb-plugin xfwm4-themes # dictionaries are big -#-aspell-* +-aspell-* #-man-pages-* # more fun with space saving

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Today's Spins SIG meeting
by Bruno Wolff III 27 Sep '10

27 Sep '10

Meeting started by brunowolff at 20:59:36 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-09-27/fedora-meeting.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * Who's here? (brunowolff, 20:59:48) * nightly spins (brunowolff, 21:01:11) * other stuff (brunowolff, 21:08:45) * Xfce size being worked on. (brunowolff, 21:12:47) * evolution stuff should be moving to stable soon, which will allow the Design Spin to compose again. (brunowolff, 21:15:03)

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Upcoming Fedora 14 Tasks
by John Poelstra 27 Sep '10

27 Sep '10

Start End Name Tue 28-Sep Tue 28-Sep Beta Release Public Availability Tue 12-Oct Tue 12-Oct Spins kickstart package Freeze Tue 12-Oct Tue 12-Oct Branch spin-kickstarts and build package from new branch

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[spin-kickstarts] SoaS: make new Activities favourite
by Peter Robinson 22 Sep '10

22 Sep '10

commit b8756f86c237d4f48f99586a1248cd8b5429eecc Author: Peter Robinson <pbrobinson(a)gmail.com> Date: Wed Sep 22 20:58:03 2010 +0100 SoaS: make new Activities favourite fedora-livecd-soas.ks | 3 +++ 1 files changed, 3 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/fedora-livecd-soas.ks b/fedora-livecd-soas.ks index 3c11994..9d6815f 100644 --- a/fedora-livecd-soas.ks +++ b/fedora-livecd-soas.ks @@ -136,6 +136,9 @@ org.laptop.RecordActivity org.laptop.Terminal org.laptop.TurtleArtActivity org.laptop.WebActivity +org.laptop.Pippy +org.laptop.Calculator +org.laptop.Speak org.sugarlabs.IRC org.vpri.EtoysActivity FOE

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[spin-kickstarts] SoaS: Add a few more Activities
by Peter Robinson 22 Sep '10

22 Sep '10

commit 30ee391a1289650657f493ade05688d1c5448467 Author: Peter Robinson <pbrobinson(a)gmail.com> Date: Wed Sep 22 15:06:02 2010 +0100 SoaS: Add a few more Activities fedora-livecd-soas.ks | 3 +++ 1 files changed, 3 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/fedora-livecd-soas.ks b/fedora-livecd-soas.ks index 87cf735..3c11994 100644 --- a/fedora-livecd-soas.ks +++ b/fedora-livecd-soas.ks @@ -42,6 +42,9 @@ sugar-chat sugar-record sugar-write etoys-sugar +sugar-pippy +sugar-calculator +sugar-speak # Write breaks unless we do this (we don't need it anyway) -@input-methods

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Issues with Design, KDE and XFCE spins
by Bruno Wolff III 21 Sep '10

21 Sep '10

The Design Spin has failed to compose since September 8th. Currently a dependency issue with gnome-python2-evolution and libcamel is blocking the compose. The KDE and XFCE spins appear to be slightly over their targeted sizes.

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[spin-kickstarts] space saving: remove k3b for now; k3b-common will be splitted into subpkgs in the future
by Sebastian Vahl 21 Sep '10

21 Sep '10

commit f022c498ec33ff8d1a53befc6ca3776c78ae8fd0 Author: Sebastian Vahl <fedora(a)deadbabylon.de> Date: Tue Sep 21 18:16:43 2010 +0200 space saving: remove k3b for now; k3b-common will be splitted into subpkgs in the future fedora-livecd-kde.ks | 2 +- 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/fedora-livecd-kde.ks b/fedora-livecd-kde.ks index 70c7f65..68aa3a4 100644 --- a/fedora-livecd-kde.ks +++ b/fedora-livecd-kde.ks @@ -31,6 +31,7 @@ -kipi-plugins # ~8 megs -konq-plugins # ~2 megs -kdeplasma-addons # ~16 megs +-k3b* # ~15 megs # Additional packages that are not default in kde-desktop but useful -koffice-suite # don't include whole koffice-suite, just parts of it @@ -39,7 +40,6 @@ koffice-kspread # ~1 megs koffice-kpresenter # ~3 megs koffice-filters #kdeartwork # only include some parts of kdeartwork -k3b #twinkle # (~10 megs) fuse liveusb-creator

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Spins SIG meeting minutes
by Bruno Wolff III 20 Sep '10

20 Sep '10

nirik was only partially available, so I just made note of some FYI items about status of spins with regard to the imminent beta release. Meeting started by brunowolff at 21:00:58 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-09-20/spins-sig.2010-0… . Meeting summary --------------- * Who's here? (brunowolff, 21:01:46) * spins' status (brunowolff, 21:04:19) * livecd-tools (brunowolff, 21:06:36) * Testing requirements (brunowolff, 21:08:35) * squashfs-tools update (brunowolff, 21:09:38) * beta (brunowolff, 21:11:37) * others (brunowolff, 21:12:37) Meeting ended at 21:15:46 UTC.

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