devel August 2019

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Use immutable CRAN URLs
by Iñaki Ucar 06 Nov '19

06 Nov '19

Hi, Currently, most of the R packages included in Fedora use the following lines in the SPEC: URL: https://cran.r-project.org/web/packages/%{packname}/ Source0: https://cran.r-project.org/src/contrib/%{packname}_%{version}.tar.gz This URL format is not recommended by CRAN, but more importantly, the Source0 format does not work anymore, as [1] noted, when a new version is released. However, there is an immutable format available, as [2] pointed out. So my proposal is to use always the following lines instead: URL: https://cran.r-project.org/package=%{packname} Source0: %{url}&version=%{version} which are both shorter and immutable, and I propose to add this to the R packaging guidelines too. If we agree on this, is there any easy way to request a system-wide change like that to all existing packages? Regards, -- Iñaki Ucar [1] https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-devel/2018-October/076988.html [2] https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-devel/2018-October/076989.html

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efivar and mokutil long standing FTBFS
by Miro Hrončok 24 Oct '19

24 Oct '19

efivar and mokutil fail to build from source. They have been retired, then unretired and they still fail to build from source. Following the policy: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Fails_to_build_from_source_Fails… I kindly ask the maintainers to rebuild them or orphan them if they cannot take care of them. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1674840 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1675403 Thanks, -- Miro Hrončok -- Phone: +420777974800 IRC: mhroncok

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Fedora 31 Self-Contained Change proposal: AArch64 Xfce Desktop image
by Ben Cotton 13 Oct '19

13 Oct '19

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/AArch64_Xfce_Desktop_image == Summary == Add an AArch64 Xfce Desktop image to deliverables in Fedora 31. == Owner == * Name: [[User:pwhalen| Paul Whalen]] * Email: pwhalen(a)fedoraproject.org * Responsible WG: ARM SIG == Detailed Description == We currently offer Workstation, Minimal and Server images for use with AArch64 Single Board Computer's (SBC's). We would like to add a lighter weight desktop image for hardware that lacks the ability to run accelerated desktops. An initial set of supported devices: * Pine64 * Raspberry Pi 3/4 * 96boards HiKey * 96boards Dragonboard 410c == Benefit to Fedora == Better user experience and an additional desktop choice for AArch64 SBC's. == Scope == * Proposal owners: The ARM SIG will make the kickstart changes needed to add the desktop images to the compose. * Other developers: N/A * Release engineering: Enable building of the AArch64 XFCE desktop image. Small tweaks may be required to the pungi configs or fedora kickstarts but those will be completed by the SIG and sent as pull requests. Issue[https://pagure.io/releng/issue/8556 #8556] * Policies and guidelines: N/A (not needed for this Change) * Trademark approval: N/A (not needed for this Change) == Upgrade/compatibility impact == No upgrade compatibility required, this is a new image variant. == How To Test == Testing can be completed on any supported AArch64 SBC using the existing arm-image-installer. Any additional instructions will be added to the ARM installation documentation. == User Experience == Users will have increased choice in desktop offerings for AArch64 SBC's. Those looking to install a desktop on hardware that lacks an accelerated graphics driver or lower system specifications will have a useable option. == Dependencies == N/A (not a System Wide Change) == Contingency Plan == * Contingency mechanism: N/A * Contingency deadline: N/A * Blocks release? No * Blocks product? No == Documentation == All documentation will be added or updated via the ARM Landing Page. -- Ben Cotton He / Him / His Fedora Program Manager Red Hat TZ=America/Indiana/Indianapolis

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Let's revisit the FTBFS policy
by Miro Hrončok 11 Oct '19

11 Oct '19

Hello. Recently, a couple hundred packages were retired from rawhide (Fedora 31 at that time) based on the Fedora Failed to Build From Source Policy [1]. From various reactions over several threads it seems this policy is not ideal. This is an attempt to collect feedback and make the policy better serve Fedora's needs. Fedora has a policy for a long time that can be simplified as: 1. Mass rebuild for Fedora N happens by releng 2. Packages that fail to build get open bugzillas by releng 3. Packages with NEW bugizllas are orphaned after 8 weeks with weekly reminders by releng 4. A week before Fedora N+1 branching any packages which still have open Fedora N FTBFS bug are retired by releng However, 3 or 4 haven't happened since Fedora ~26, because the automation was not working any more for various reasons I don't understand. The policy was then updated by FESCo to allow anybody to step up and do 3. manually. However it needs 2 e-mails to devel directed at the package owners and that may be understood as a personal attack by some. So nobody ever did that but me (twice) IIRC (and I got my share of shame for that). Currently, the FTBFS retirement is problematic due to various things: 1) Bugzilla spam: Maintainers are spammed weekly by releng, some of them find that annoying and simply switch the bug to ASSIGNED to make it stop. The problem is, how do we both keep notifying the maintainers that action is needed and not spam them with stuff that will make them filter all Fedora e-mails to /dev/null. 2) Retirement out of the blue. When releng executes 4., packagers that stopped the bugzilla spam by setting the bug to ASSIGNED are suddenly surprised the package was retired. OTOH arguably they made a deliberate action to stop the notifications. However, most importantly, any dependent packages were not notified at all, which is **not fair**. This state is broken mostly because there is no automatic orphaning of packages that have NEW bugzillas and there is no orphaning at all for packages where the bugzillas are ASSIGNED for months. For the second bit, everything indicates that packagers are aware of the problem and will fix the bug in time before 4., but they don't and things blow up. 3) Questionable importance of the FTBFS bug. Repeatedly, it has been stated by some, the FTBFS bug is not important and we should not retire packages at all based on the fact that they "simply" fail to build. I personally don't agree with this for various reasons, but I can imagine a situation, where it is reasonable to say so and delay the problem. Obvious argument is: Better to have 1 package nonbuildable than have 100 packages nonisntallable. So we need a way to opt-out from the retirement, however simply setting the bugzilla to ASSIGNED is not it, because we will end up with packages last built 6 years ago (and I believe this is not what we want). I'm starting this thread to collect the ideas about how to make this better. If you see more problems, share them. I promise I'll do my best to make the policy work better for both Fedora and the people who make Fedora. [1] https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Fails_to_build_from_source_Fails… -- Miro Hrončok -- Phone: +420777974800 IRC: mhroncok

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Orphaned packages to be retired
by Miro Hrončok 10 Oct '19

10 Oct '19

The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life I plan to retire packages that were already announced 3 times next Monday. Unorphan/unretire packages at https://pagure.io/releng/issues Note: If you received this mail directly you (co)maintain one of the affected packages or a package that depends on one. Please adopt the affected package or retire your depending package to avoid broken dependencies, otherwise your package will be retired when the affected package gets retired. Package (co)maintainers Status Change ================================================================================ autotrash frafra, orphan, robyduck 1 weeks ago bluecove orphan 5 weeks ago bouml orphan 2 weeks ago bouml-doc orphan 2 weeks ago ecryptfs-simple orphan 3 weeks ago fasd orphan 1 weeks ago golang-github- go-sig, jchaloup, orphan 10 weeks ago AudriusButkevicius-kcp-go golang-github- go-sig, orphan 10 weeks ago AudriusButkevicius-pfilter golang-github-calmh-luhn go-sig, jchaloup, orphan 10 weeks ago golang-github-ccding-go-stun go-sig, jchaloup, orphan 10 weeks ago golang-github-cznic-b go-sig, jchaloup, orphan 10 weeks ago golang-github-cznic-fileutil go-sig, jchaloup, orphan 10 weeks ago golang-github-cznic-golex go-sig, jchaloup, orphan 10 weeks ago golang-github-cznic-internal go-sig, jchaloup, orphan 10 weeks ago golang-github-cznic-lex go-sig, jchaloup, orphan 10 weeks ago golang-github-cznic-lexer go-sig, jchaloup, orphan 10 weeks ago golang-github-cznic-lldb go-sig, jchaloup, orphan 10 weeks ago golang-github-cznic-mathutil go-sig, jchaloup, orphan 10 weeks ago golang-github-cznic-ql go-sig, jchaloup, orphan 10 weeks ago golang-github-cznic-sortutil go-sig, jchaloup, orphan 10 weeks ago golang-github-cznic-strutil go-sig, jchaloup, orphan 10 weeks ago golang-github-cznic-zappy go-sig, jchaloup, orphan 10 weeks ago golang-github-edsrzf-mmap-go go-sig, jchaloup, orphan 10 weeks ago golang-github-klauspost- go-sig, jchaloup, orphan 10 weeks ago reedsolomon golang-github-remyoudompheng- go-sig, jchaloup, orphan 10 weeks ago bigfft golang-github-templexxx-cpufeat go-sig, jchaloup, orphan 10 weeks ago golang-github-templexxx- go-sig, jchaloup, orphan 10 weeks ago reedsolomon golang-github-templexxx-xor go-sig, jchaloup, orphan 10 weeks ago golang-github-tjfoc-gmsm go-sig, jchaloup, orphan 10 weeks ago golang-github-xtaci-kcp-go go-sig, jchaloup, orphan 10 weeks ago golang-github-xtaci-smux go-sig, jchaloup, orphan 10 weeks ago golang-github-zillode-notify go-sig, orphan 10 weeks ago gossip orphan 12 weeks ago hdapsd orphan 6 weeks ago hoard orphan 26 weeks ago jlibrtp orphan 3 weeks ago jmake orphan 3 weeks ago libgltf orphan 4 weeks ago lzma cicku, fale, mjakubicek, 64 weeks ago orphan maven-downloader orphan 12 weeks ago maven-jsf-plugin orphan 12 weeks ago maven-jxr akurtakov, orphan 12 weeks ago nuvola-app-8tracks orphan 11 weeks ago nuvola-app-deezer orphan 11 weeks ago nuvola-app-google-play-music orphan 11 weeks ago nuvola-app-jango orphan 11 weeks ago nuvola-app-mixcloud orphan 11 weeks ago openid4java-team orphan 12 weeks ago parprouted orphan, roma 6 weeks ago pcapfix cicku, orphan 6 weeks ago pg_journal orphan, pkubat 6 weeks ago php-ZendFramework heffer, orphan, remi 5 weeks ago port-allocator-maven-plugin galileo, orphan 12 weeks ago pygtk2 alexl, alt-gtk-de-sig, 0 weeks ago caillon, caolanm, gnome-sig, johnp, orphan, raveit65, rhughes, rstrode, ssp python-adns orphan, rvokal 4 weeks ago python-ansible-tower-cli fale, orphan 6 weeks ago python-cookies adamwill, orphan 1 weeks ago python-parsley ishcherb, lbazan, orphan 1 weeks ago python-pyuv orphan 6 weeks ago python-ripe-atlas-cousteau orphan 1 weeks ago python-ripe-atlas-sagan orphan 1 weeks ago python-socketIO-client orphan 1 weeks ago python-softlayer orphan 6 weeks ago python-txsocksx lbazan, orphan 1 weeks ago python-xhtml2pdf orphan 4 weeks ago ratproxy orphan 6 weeks ago ripe-atlas-tools orphan 1 weeks ago scite orphan 5 weeks ago supernova orphan 4 weeks ago takari-local-repository galileo, orphan 12 weeks ago tinyca2 orphan, pwouters 5 weeks ago tristripper orphan 3 weeks ago wifi-radar blackfile, orphan 1 weeks ago The following packages require above mentioned packages: Depending on: golang-github-cznic-fileutil (4), status change: 2018-10-24 (10 weeks ago) golang-github-cznic-internal (maintained by: go-sig, jchaloup, orphan) golang-github-cznic-internal-1.0.0-9.20180831git4747030.fc30.src requires golang(github.com/cznic/fileutil) = 0-0.11.20180831git6a051e7.fc30 golang-github-cznic-lex (maintained by: go-sig, jchaloup, orphan) golang-github-cznic-lex-0-0.8.20180831git68050f5.fc30.src requires golang(github.com/cznic/fileutil) = 0-0.11.20180831git6a051e7.fc30 golang-github-cznic-lexer (maintained by: go-sig, jchaloup, orphan) golang-github-cznic-lexer-0-0.8.20180831git52ae786.fc30.src requires golang(github.com/cznic/fileutil) = 0-0.11.20180831git6a051e7.fc30 golang-github-cznic-lldb (maintained by: go-sig, jchaloup, orphan) golang-github-cznic-lldb-1.1.0-8.fc30.src requires golang(github.com/cznic/fileutil) = 0-0.11.20180831git6a051e7.fc30 Depending on: golang-github-cznic-mathutil (4), status change: 2018-10-24 (10 weeks ago) golang-github-cznic-b (maintained by: go-sig, jchaloup, orphan) golang-github-cznic-b-0-0.9.20180831git35e9bbe.fc30.src requires golang(github.com/cznic/mathutil) = 0-0.15.20180831gitca4c9f2.fc30 golang-github-cznic-fileutil (maintained by: go-sig, jchaloup, orphan) golang-github-cznic-fileutil-0-0.11.20180831git6a051e7.fc30.src requires golang(github.com/cznic/mathutil) = 0-0.15.20180831gitca4c9f2.fc30 golang-github-cznic-sortutil (maintained by: go-sig, jchaloup, orphan) golang-github-cznic-sortutil-0-0.8.20180831git4c73428.fc30.src requires golang(github.com/cznic/mathutil) = 0-0.15.20180831gitca4c9f2.fc30 golang-github-cznic-strutil (maintained by: go-sig, jchaloup, orphan) golang-github-cznic-strutil-0-0.9.20180831git529a34b.fc30.src requires golang(github.com/cznic/mathutil) = 0-0.15.20180831gitca4c9f2.fc30 Depending on: golang-github-klauspost-reedsolomon (2), status change: 2018-10-24 (10 weeks ago) golang-github-AudriusButkevicius-kcp-go (maintained by: go-sig, jchaloup, orphan) golang-github-AudriusButkevicius-kcp-go-0-0.8.20171227git5d7d1a8.fc30.src requires golang(github.com/klauspost/reedsolomon) = 1.6-6.20180704git925cb01.fc30 golang-github-xtaci-kcp-go (maintained by: go-sig, jchaloup, orphan) golang-github-xtaci-kcp-go-4.3.1-2.fc30.src requires golang(github.com/klauspost/reedsolomon) = 1.6-6.20180704git925cb01.fc30 Depending on: golang-github-templexxx-cpufeat (2), status change: 2018-10-22 (10 weeks ago) golang-github-templexxx-reedsolomon (maintained by: go-sig, jchaloup, orphan) golang-github-templexxx-reedsolomon-0.1.1-4.fc30.src requires golang(github.com/templexxx/cpufeat) = 0-0.4.20180724gitcef66df.fc30 golang-github-templexxx-xor (maintained by: go-sig, jchaloup, orphan) golang-github-templexxx-xor-0.1.2-4.fc30.src requires golang(github.com/templexxx/cpufeat) = 0-0.4.20180724gitcef66df.fc30 Depending on: lzma (23), status change: 2017-10-10 (64 weeks ago) afflib (maintained by: kwizart, rebus) afflib-3.7.16-7.fc29.src requires lzma-devel = 4.32.7-21.fc29 kio-extras (maintained by: kde-sig, rdieter) kio-extras-18.12.0-1.fc30.src requires lzma-devel = 4.32.7-21.fc29 sleuthkit (maintained by: kwizart) sleuthkit-4.6.2-1.fc29.i686 requires libafflib.so.0 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exaile-3.4.5-9.fc29.noarch requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 expendable (maintained by: twaugh) expendable-0.0.10-10.fc29.noarch requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 findthatword (maintained by: limb) findthatword-0.1-20.fc30.noarch requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 flumotion (maintained by: lkundrak, sergiomb, thomasvs) flumotion-0.11.0.1-11.20140103git886031a.fc29.i686 requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29, pygtk2-libglade = 2.24.0-23.fc29 flumotion-0.11.0.1-11.20140103git886031a.fc29.src requires pygtk2-devel = 2.24.0-23.fc29, pygtk2-libglade = 2.24.0-23.fc29 fslint (maintained by: moezroy, pbrady) fslint-2.46-5.fc29.noarch requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29, pygtk2-libglade = 2.24.0-23.fc29 fwbackups (maintained by: firewing) fwbackups-1.43.7-6.fc29.noarch requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29, pygtk2-libglade = 2.24.0-23.fc29 fwfstab (maintained by: firewing) fwfstab-0.04-0.16.rc1.fc28.noarch requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29, pygtk2-libglade = 2.24.0-23.fc29 galternatives (maintained by: deji) galternatives-0.13.4-26.fc29.noarch requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29, pygtk2-libglade = 2.24.0-23.fc29 galternatives-0.13.4-26.fc29.src requires pygtk2-devel = 2.24.0-23.fc29, pygtk2-libglade = 2.24.0-23.fc29 gcompris (maintained by: jwrdegoede, lef, limb) gcompris-15.10-14.fc29.i686 requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 gcompris-15.10-14.fc29.src requires pygtk2-devel = 2.24.0-23.fc29 gdesklets (maintained by: sergiomb) gdesklets-0.36.3-33.fc30.i686 requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 gdesklets-0.36.3-33.fc30.src requires pygtk2-devel = 2.24.0-23.fc29 gimp (maintained by: jridky, nphilipp, phracek) gimp-2:2.10.8-5.fc30.i686 requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 gimp-2:2.10.8-5.fc30.src requires pygtk2-devel = 2.24.0-23.fc29 glade3 (maintained by: huzaifas, rakesh) glade3-2:3.8.6-4.fc29.src requires pygtk2-devel = 2.24.0-23.fc29 gnatcoll (maintained by: landgraf, rombobeorn) gnatcoll-2017-14.fc29.src requires pygtk2-devel = 2.24.0-23.fc29 gnome-activity-journal (maintained by: deji, maxx) gnome-activity-journal-0.8.0-14.fc28.noarch requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 gnome-desktop (maintained by: alexl, caillon, caolanm, fmuellner, gnome-sig, hadess, johnp, mbarnes, rhughes, rstrode, ssp, yselkowitz) gnome-desktop-2.32.0-22.fc29.i686 requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 gnome-python2 (maintained by: alexl, caillon, caolanm, gnome-sig, johnp, rhughes, rstrode, ssp, walters) gnome-python2-2.28.1-23.fc29.i686 requires pygtk2(x86-32) = 2.24.0-23.fc29 gnome-python2-2.28.1-23.fc29.src requires pygtk2-devel = 2.24.0-23.fc29 gnome-python2-desktop (maintained by: alexl, caillon, caolanm, gnome-sig, johnp, limb, moezroy, rhughes, rstrode, ssp, walters) gnome-python2-desktop-2.32.0-34.fc30.src requires pygtk2-devel = 2.24.0-23.fc29 gnome-python2-extras (maintained by: alexl, caillon, caolanm, gnome-sig, johnp, mikedep333, rhughes, rstrode, ssp, walters) gnome-python2-extras-2.25.3-53.fc29.src requires pygtk2-devel = 2.24.0-23.fc29 gnumeric (maintained by: aarem, belegdol, huzaifas) gnumeric-1:1.12.41-2.fc29.src requires pygtk2-devel = 2.24.0-23.fc29 gnuradio (maintained by: jskarvad, mmahut) gnuradio-3.7.13.4-2.fc29.i686 requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 gnuradio-3.7.13.4-2.fc29.src requires pygtk2-devel = 2.24.0-23.fc29 gonvert (maintained by: limb) gonvert-0.2.39-6.fc30.noarch requires pygtk2-libglade = 2.24.0-23.fc29 googsystray (maintained by: leon) googsystray-1.3.1-13.fc28.noarch requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 gourmet (maintained by: jraber, jspaleta, pgordon) gourmet-0.17.4-12.fc28.noarch requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 gresistor (maintained by: chitlesh, hobbes1069) gresistor-0.0.2-8.fc29.noarch requires pygtk2-libglade = 2.24.0-23.fc29 gscribble (maintained by: roshansingh) gscribble-0.1.2-16.fc29.noarch requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 gst-inspector (maintained by: yaneti) gst-inspector-0.4-19.fc29.noarch requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29, pygtk2-libglade = 2.24.0-23.fc29 gstreamer-python (maintained by: company, laxathom, tomspur) gstreamer-python-0.10.22-19.fc29.src requires pygtk2-devel = 2.24.0-23.fc29 gstreamer-python-devel-0.10.22-19.fc29.i686 requires pygtk2-devel = 2.24.0-23.fc29 python2-gstreamer-0.10.22-19.fc29.i686 requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 gtkparasite (maintained by: amigadave, ivazquez) gtkparasite-0.2.0-0.7.20121121git0a0c90b7.fc29.src requires pygtk2-devel = 2.24.0-23.fc29 guake (maintained by: ohaessler, pingou) guake-0.8.8-6.fc29.noarch requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29, pygtk2-libglade = 2.24.0-23.fc29 guake-0.8.8-6.fc29.src requires pygtk2-devel = 2.24.0-23.fc29 gvrng (maintained by: nhorman) gvrng-4.4-18.fc29.noarch requires pygtk2-libglade = 2.24.0-23.fc29 gwsmhg (maintained by: kiilerix) gwsmhg-0.13.2-14.fc29.noarch requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 hatari (maintained by: musuruan) hatari-ui-2.1.0-3.fc29.i686 requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 hippo-canvas (maintained by: pbrobinson) hippo-canvas-0.3.0-26.fc28.src requires pygtk2-devel = 2.24.0-23.fc29 icaro (maintained by: echevemaster, lkf, yaderv) icaro-1.0.9-2.fc29.noarch requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 inkscape-sozi (maintained by: echevemaster, ohaessler) inkscape-sozi-13.11-9.fc29.noarch requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29, pygtk2-libglade = 2.24.0-23.fc29 inkscape-table (maintained by: lkundrak) inkscape-table-1.0-9.fc29.noarch requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 inksmoto (maintained by: limb) inksmoto-0.7.0-20.fc30.noarch requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 international-time (maintained by: twaugh) international-time-0.0.2-19.fc29.noarch requires pygtk2-libglade = 2.24.0-23.fc29 jbrout (maintained by: mcepl) jbrout-0.4-0.20.git20140930reva7c8fb8.fc29.noarch requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 jumpnbump (maintained by: akien, ngompa) jumpnbump-menu-1.60-7.fc29.noarch requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29, pygtk2-libglade = 2.24.0-23.fc29 key-mon (maintained by: ryanlerch) key-mon-1.16-11.fc29.noarch requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 keybinder (maintained by: hannes, ohaessler) keybinder-0.3.1-12.fc30.src requires pygtk2-devel = 2.24.0-23.fc29 python2-keybinder-0.3.1-12.fc30.i686 requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 kupfer (maintained by: jouty) kupfer-208-15.fc28.noarch requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 labyrinth (maintained by: ankursinha) labyrinth-0.6-15.fc29.noarch requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29, pygtk2-libglade = 2.24.0-23.fc29 ladish (maintained by: bsjones) ladish-2-20.3.gitfcb16ae.fc28.i686 requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 ladish-2-20.3.gitfcb16ae.fc28.src requires pygtk2-devel = 2.24.0-23.fc29 ldtp (maintained by: limb) ldtp-3.5.0-13.fc29.noarch requires pygtk2-libglade = 2.24.0-23.fc29 libappindicator (maintained by: echevemaster, ohaessler, tpokorra) libappindicator-12.10.0-20.fc29.src requires pygtk2-devel = 2.24.0-23.fc29 libhocr (maintained by: oron) libhocr-gtk-0.10.17-30.fc28.i686 requires pygtk2-libglade = 2.24.0-23.fc29 libmateweather (maintained by: raveit65, rdieter) libmateweather-1.20.1-2.fc29.src requires pygtk2-devel = 2.24.0-23.fc29 mcomix (maintained by: mtasaka) mcomix-1.2.1-8.fc29.noarch requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 mcomix-1.2.1-8.fc29.src requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 metromap (maintained by: cicku, fab) metromap-0.1.4-9.fc29.noarch requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 mirage (maintained by: mtasaka) mirage-0.9.5.2-16.fc29.i686 requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 mypaint (maintained by: avsej) mypaint-1.2.1-19.fc29.i686 requires pygtk2(x86-32) = 2.24.0-23.fc29 mypaint-1.2.1-19.fc29.src requires pkgconfig(pygtk-2.0) = 2.24.0 nagstamon (maintained by: echevemaster, jaur) nagstamon-1.0.1-7.fc29.noarch requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 nagstamon-1.0.1-7.fc29.src requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 nested (maintained by: aeperezt, potty) nested-1.2.2-22.fc29.noarch requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 nicotine+ (maintained by: melmorabity) nicotine+-1.4.1-6.fc29.noarch requires pygtk2-libglade = 2.24.0-23.fc29 notify-python (maintained by: pfrields) notify-python-0.1.1-40.fc30.src requires pygtk2-devel = 2.24.0-23.fc29 python2-notify-0.1.1-40.fc30.i686 requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 nxt_python (maintained by: martinlanghoff) nxt_python-2.2.2-6.fc29.noarch requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 obmenu (maintained by: mlichvar) obmenu-1.0-27.fc29.noarch requires pygtk2-libglade = 2.24.0-23.fc29 ocfs2-tools (maintained by: cheeselee) ocfs2-tools-1.8.5-8.fc30.src requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 ocfs2console-1.8.5-8.fc30.i686 requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 oggconvert (maintained by: grover, ngompa, ohaessler) oggconvert-0.3.3-19.fc29.noarch requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29, pygtk2-libglade = 2.24.0-23.fc29 oggconvert-0.3.3-19.fc29.src requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29, pygtk2-libglade = 2.24.0-23.fc29 openalchemist (maintained by: xavierb) openalchemist-0.4-26.fc29.i686 requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 openerp (maintained by: leamas) openerp-6.1-15.20131111_004905.fc29.src requires pygtk2-devel = 2.24.0-23.fc29 tuna (maintained by: jkastner) oscilloscope-0.13.1-6.fc29.noarch requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 pdfshuffler (maintained by: fab) pdfshuffler-0.6.0-15.fc30.noarch requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 planner (maintained by: alexl, caillon, caolanm, gnome-sig, johnp, mbarnes, mcrha, rhughes, rstrode, ssp) planner-0.14.6-32.fc29.src requires pygtk2-devel = 2.24.0-23.fc29 pulseaudio-equalizer (maintained by: spstarr) pulseaudio-equalizer-2.7-21.fc29.noarch requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 pybliographer (maintained by: zkota) pybliographer-1.2.18-5.fc29.noarch requires pygtk2-libglade = 2.24.0-23.fc29 pybliographer-1.2.18-5.fc29.src requires pygtk2-libglade = 2.24.0-23.fc29 pycam (maintained by: zultron) pycam-0.5.1-11.fc28.noarch requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 pygtkglext (maintained by: jwrdegoede, orion) pygtkglext-1.1.0-29.fc30.i686 requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 pygtkglext-1.1.0-29.fc30.src requires pygtk2-devel = 2.24.0-23.fc29 pygtkglext-devel-1.1.0-29.fc30.i686 requires pygtk2-devel = 2.24.0-23.fc29 pygtksourceview (maintained by: mbarnes) pygtksourceview-2.10.1-18.fc29.src requires pygtk2-devel = 2.24.0-23.fc29 pygtksourceview-devel-2.10.1-18.fc29.i686 requires pygtk2-devel = 2.24.0-23.fc29 pypoppler (maintained by: fab) pypoppler-0.12.2-9.fc29.src requires pygtk2-devel = 2.24.0-23.fc29 pyrenamer (maintained by: limb) pyrenamer-0.6.0-23.fc30.noarch requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29, pygtk2-libglade = 2.24.0-23.fc29 pyrenamer-0.6.0-23.fc30.src requires pygtk2-devel = 2.24.0-23.fc29 pyroom (maintained by: slankes, sundaram) pyroom-0.4.1-19.fc28.noarch requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 pyroom-0.4.1-19.fc28.src requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 pysdm (maintained by: hobbes1069) pysdm-0.4.1-16.fc29.noarch requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 python-gtkextra (maintained by: mitr) python-gtkextra-1.1.0-35.fc29.src requires pygtk2-devel = 2.24.0-23.fc29 python2-gtkextra-1.1.0-35.fc29.i686 requires pygtk2(x86-32) = 2.24.0-23.fc29 python-kiwi-gtk (maintained by: hguemar) python-kiwi-gtk-1.11.1-3.fc29.src requires pygtk2-devel = 2.24.0-23.fc29 python2-kiwi-gtk-1.11.1-3.fc29.noarch requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 python-sexy (maintained by: hguemar) python-sexy-0.1.9-29.fc29.src requires pygtk2-devel = 2.24.0-23.fc29 python2-matplotlib (maintained by: ellert, tibbs) python2-matplotlib-2.2.3-3.fc30.src requires pygtk2-devel = 2.24.0-23.fc29 python2-matplotlib-gtk-2.2.3-3.fc30.i686 requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 powerpc-utils-python (maintained by: jcajka) python2-powerpc-utils-1.2.1-17.gitf7bdc5c.fc29.noarch requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 rabbitvcs (maintained by: cicku, limb, nushio, pwalter) python2-rabbitvcs-0.17.1-9.fc30.noarch requires pygtk2-libglade = 2.24.0-23.fc29 rabbitvcs-0.17.1-9.fc30.src requires pygtk2-devel = 2.24.0-23.fc29 rhn-client-tools (maintained by: msuchy, tkasparek) python2-rhn-setup-gnome-2.9.12-2.fc29.noarch requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29, pygtk2-libglade = 2.24.0-23.fc29 pywebkitgtk (maintained by: ivazquez, mikedep333, walters) pywebkitgtk-1.1.8-13.fc26.i686 requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 pywebkitgtk-1.1.8-13.fc26.src requires pygtk2-devel = 2.24.0-23.fc29 radiotray (maintained by: jfsaucier) radiotray-0.7.3-12.fc29.noarch requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 rapid-photo-downloader (maintained by: fab) rapid-photo-downloader-0.4.11-10.fc29.noarch requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 revelation (maintained by: aarem, jspaleta, pwalter) revelation-0.4.14-20.fc29.i686 requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 revelation-0.4.14-20.fc29.src requires pygtk2-devel = 2.24.0-23.fc29 snap (maintained by: mmorsi) snap-gtk-0.6-13.fc29.noarch requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 solfege (maintained by: chkr) solfege-3.22.2-10.fc29.i686 requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 solfege-3.22.2-10.fc29.src requires pygtk2-devel = 2.24.0-23.fc29 stylus-toolbox (maintained by: marionline) stylus-toolbox-0.2.7-16.fc29.noarch requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 sugar-base (maintained by: erikos, pbrobinson, sdz, tomeu) sugar-base-0.98.0-14.fc29.src requires pygtk2-codegen = 2.24.0-23.fc29 sugar-toolkit (maintained by: erikos, sdz, tomeu) sugar-toolkit-0.112-5.fc29.i686 requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 sugar-toolkit-0.112-5.fc29.src requires pygtk2-devel = 2.24.0-23.fc29 sugar-toolkit-gtk3 (maintained by: dsd, erikos, pbrobinson) sugar-toolkit-gtk3-0.112-5.fc29.src requires pygtk2-codegen = 2.24.0-23.fc29 system-config-bind (maintained by: jreznik, rvokal) system-config-bind-4.0.15-16.fc29.noarch requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29, pygtk2-libglade = 2.24.0-23.fc29 system-config-firewall (maintained by: erig0, twoerner) system-config-firewall-1.2.29-21.fc29.noarch requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29, pygtk2-libglade = 2.24.0-23.fc29 system-config-httpd (maintained by: moceap, pknirsch) system-config-httpd-5:1.5.5-16.fc29.noarch requires pygtk2-libglade = 2.24.0-23.fc29 system-config-kickstart (maintained by: clumens) system-config-kickstart-2.10.0-2.fc29.noarch requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29, pygtk2-libglade = 2.24.0-23.fc29 system-config-users (maintained by: moezroy, nphilipp) system-config-users-1.3.8-6.fc29.noarch requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29, pygtk2-libglade = 2.24.0-23.fc29 system-switch-displaymanager (maintained by: than) system-switch-displaymanager-gnome-1.5.1-5.fc29.noarch requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 system-switch-java (maintained by: dbhole, jvanek, omajid) system-switch-java-1.1.7.1-7.fc30.noarch requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29, pygtk2-libglade = 2.24.0-23.fc29 thunarx-python (maintained by: balajig8, kevin, nonamedotc) thunarx-python-0.5.1-20.fc29.src requires pygtk2-devel = 2.24.0-23.fc29 tomoe (maintained by: dchen, petersen, pwu) tomoe-0.6.0-40.fc29.src requires pygtk2-codegen = 2.24.0-23.fc29 tomoe-gtk (maintained by: dchen) tomoe-gtk-0.6.0-29.fc28.src requires pygtk2-devel = 2.24.0-23.fc29 torbrowser-launcher (maintained by: limb, pjp) torbrowser-launcher-0.3.1-1.fc30.noarch requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 translation-filter (maintained by: kushal) translation-filter-1.0-15.fc29.noarch requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29, pygtk2-libglade = 2.24.0-23.fc29 tryton (maintained by: sharkcz) tryton-4.0.4-6.fc29.noarch requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 umit (maintained by: fab, lystor) umit-1.0-12.fc29.noarch requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 virtaal (maintained by: dwayne) virtaal-0.7.1-14.fc29.noarch requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29, pygtk2-libglade = 2.24.0-23.fc29 vte (maintained by: alexl, caillon, caolanm, gnome-sig, johnp, kevin, mbarnes, rhughes, rnorwood, rstrode, ssp) vte-0.28.2-26.fc29.src requires pygtk2-devel = 2.24.0-23.fc29 vte-devel-0.28.2-26.fc29.i686 requires pygtk2-devel = 2.24.0-23.fc29 wallpapoz (maintained by: mtasaka) wallpapoz-0.6.2-7.fc29.8.noarch requires pygtk2-libglade = 2.24.0-23.fc29 wallpapoz-0.6.2-7.fc29.8.src requires pygtk2-libglade = 2.24.0-23.fc29 whaawmp (maintained by: cwickert, kevin) whaawmp-0.2.14-16.fc29.noarch requires pygtk2-libglade = 2.24.0-23.fc29 wicd (maintained by: dcantrel) wicd-gtk-1.7.4-9.fc29.noarch requires pygtk2-libglade = 2.24.0-23.fc29 winswitch (maintained by: jgu) winswitch-0.12.21-25.fc29.noarch requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 wordgroupz (maintained by: rtnpro) wordgroupz-0.3.1-16.fc29.noarch requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 x-tile (maintained by: melmorabity) x-tile-2.5.1-1.fc29.noarch requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 x-tile-2.5.1-1.fc29.src requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 xpra (maintained by: jgu, sagitter, sergiomb) xpra-2.4.2-2.fc30.src requires pygtk2-devel = 2.24.0-23.fc29 xword (maintained by: ankursinha) xword-1.0-14.fc29.noarch requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 zbar (maintained by: firemanxbr, mchehab, slaanesh) zbar-0.20.1-3.fc29.src requires pygtk2-devel = 2.24.0-23.fc29 zbar-pygtk-0.20.1-3.fc29.i686 requires pygtk2 = 2.24.0-23.fc29 zynjacku (maintained by: bsjones) zynjacku-6-21.fc29.i686 requires pygtk2-libglade = 2.24.0-23.fc29 zynjacku-6-21.fc29.src requires pygtk2-devel = 2.24.0-23.fc29 Too many dependencies for pygtk2, not all listed here Depending on: python-adns (1), status change: 2018-12-06 (4 weeks ago) transmission-remote-cli (maintained by: satyak) transmission-remote-cli-1.7.0-9.fc29.noarch requires python2-adns = 1.2.1-23.fc28 Depending on: python-cookies (1), status change: 2018-12-29 (1 weeks ago) python-responses (maintained by: athoscr) python-responses-0.9.0-5.fc30.src requires python3-cookies = 2.2.1-13.fc29 python3-responses-0.9.0-5.fc30.noarch requires python3.7dist(cookies) = 2.2.1 Depending on: python-socketIO-client (1), status change: 2018-12-28 (1 weeks ago) python-ripe-atlas-cousteau (maintained by: orphan) python-ripe-atlas-cousteau-1.3-9.fc30.src requires python3-socketIO-client = 0.7.2-3.fc30 Affected (co)maintainers aarem: pygtk2 adamwill: python-cookies aeperezt: pygtk2 akien: pygtk2 akurtakov: maven-jxr alexl: pygtk2 alt-gtk-de-sig: pygtk2 alvesadrian: pygtk2 amigadave: pygtk2 ankursinha: pygtk2 athoscr: python-cookies avsej: pygtk2 awjb: pygtk2 balajig8: pygtk2 belegdol: pygtk2 besser82: lzma blackfile: wifi-radar bsjones: pygtk2 caillon: pygtk2 caolanm: pygtk2 cheeselee: pygtk2 chitlesh: pygtk2 chkr: pygtk2 cicku: lzma, pcapfix, pygtk2 clumens: pygtk2 company: pygtk2 cwickert: lzma, pygtk2 dbhole: pygtk2 dcantrel: pygtk2 dchen: pygtk2 deji: pygtk2 dp67: pygtk2 dsd: pygtk2 dvratil: lzma dwayne: pygtk2 echevemaster: pygtk2 ellert: pygtk2 erig0: pygtk2 erikos: pygtk2 fab: lzma, pygtk2 fale: lzma, python-ansible-tower-cli firemanxbr: pygtk2 firewing: pygtk2 fmuellner: pygtk2 frafra: autotrash galileo: takari-local-repository, port-allocator-maven-plugin georgiou: php-ZendFramework ggillies: php-ZendFramework gnome-sig: pygtk2 go-sig: golang-github-cznic-mathutil, golang-github-remyoudompheng-bigfft, golang-github-xtaci-smux, golang-github-calmh-luhn, golang-github-cznic-lldb, golang-github-ccding-go-stun, golang-github-cznic-strutil, golang-github-cznic-internal, golang-github-tjfoc-gmsm, golang-github-cznic-lex, golang-github-zillode-notify, golang-github-templexxx-xor, golang-github-cznic-ql, golang-github-cznic-golex, golang-github-AudriusButkevicius-pfilter, golang-github-edsrzf-mmap-go, golang-github-templexxx-cpufeat, golang-github-cznic-zappy, golang-github-templexxx-reedsolomon, golang-github-xtaci-kcp-go, golang-github-cznic-b, golang-github-cznic-lexer, golang-github-cznic-fileutil, golang-github-AudriusButkevicius-kcp-go, golang-github-cznic-sortutil, golang-github-klauspost-reedsolomon grover: pygtk2 hadess: pygtk2 hannes: pygtk2 heffer: php-ZendFramework hguemar: pygtk2 hobbes1069: pygtk2 humaton: pygtk2 huzaifas: pygtk2 ishcherb: python-parsley ivazquez: pygtk2 jaur: pygtk2 jcajka: pygtk2 jchaloup: golang-github-cznic-mathutil, golang-github-remyoudompheng-bigfft, golang-github-xtaci-smux, golang-github-calmh-luhn, golang-github-cznic-lldb, golang-github-ccding-go-stun, golang-github-cznic-strutil, golang-github-cznic-internal, golang-github-tjfoc-gmsm, golang-github-cznic-lex, golang-github-templexxx-xor, golang-github-cznic-ql, golang-github-cznic-golex, golang-github-edsrzf-mmap-go, golang-github-templexxx-cpufeat, golang-github-cznic-zappy, golang-github-templexxx-reedsolomon, golang-github-xtaci-kcp-go, golang-github-cznic-b, golang-github-cznic-lexer, golang-github-cznic-fileutil, golang-github-AudriusButkevicius-kcp-go, golang-github-cznic-sortutil, golang-github-klauspost-reedsolomon jcpunk: lzma jfsaucier: pygtk2 jgrulich: lzma jgu: pygtk2 jkastner: pygtk2 johnp: pygtk2 jonquark: pygtk2 jouty: pygtk2 jraber: pygtk2 jreznik: lzma, pygtk2 jridky: pygtk2 jskarvad: pygtk2 jspaleta: pygtk2 jsteffan: pygtk2 jvanek: pygtk2 jwrdegoede: pygtk2 kanarip: php-ZendFramework kde-sig: lzma kevin: pygtk2 kiilerix: pygtk2 kushal: pygtk2 kwizart: lzma landgraf: pygtk2 laxathom: pygtk2 lbazan: python-parsley, python-txsocksx leamas: pygtk2 lef: pygtk2 leigh123linux: lzma lennart: pygtk2 leon: pygtk2 liangsuilong: pygtk2 limb: pygtk2 lkf: pygtk2 lkundrak: pygtk2 lupinix: lzma lxqt-sig: lzma lystor: pygtk2 marionline: pygtk2 martinlanghoff: pygtk2 maxx: pygtk2 mbarnes: pygtk2 mcepl: pygtk2 mchehab: pygtk2 mcrha: pygtk2 mdbooth: lzma melmorabity: pygtk2 mikedep333: pygtk2 mitr: pygtk2 mjakubicek: lzma mkrizek: lzma mlichvar: lzma, pygtk2 mmahut: pygtk2 mmoeller: pygtk2 mmorsi: pygtk2 moceap: pygtk2 moezroy: pygtk2 mooninite: pygtk2 mschwendt: pygtk2 msekleta: pygtk2 msuchy: pygtk2 mtasaka: pygtk2 musuruan: pygtk2 ngompa: pygtk2 nhorman: pygtk2 nonamedotc: pygtk2 noodles: php-ZendFramework nphilipp: pygtk2 nushio: pygtk2 ohaessler: pygtk2 omajid: pygtk2 orion: pygtk2 oron: pygtk2 pbrady: pygtk2 pbrobinson: pygtk2 petersen: pygtk2 pfrields: pygtk2 pgordon: pygtk2 phracek: pygtk2 pingou: pygtk2 pjp: pygtk2 pknirsch: pygtk2 pkubat: pg_journal potty: pygtk2 ptoscano: lzma pwalter: pygtk2 pwouters: tinyca2 pwu: pygtk2 qa-tools-sig: lzma rakesh: pygtk2 raveit65: pygtk2 rdieter: lzma, pygtk2 rebus: lzma remi: php-ZendFramework rga: pygtk2 rhughes: pygtk2 rjones: lzma rmarko: lzma rnorwood: pygtk2 robyduck: autotrash roma: parprouted rombobeorn: pygtk2 roshansingh: pygtk2 rstrode: pygtk2 rtnpro: pygtk2 rvokal: python-adns, pygtk2 ryanlerch: pygtk2 sagitter: pygtk2 satyak: python-adns sdz: pygtk2 sergiomb: pygtk2 sharkcz: pygtk2 slaanesh: pygtk2 slankes: pygtk2 splinux: lzma spstarr: pygtk2 ssp: pygtk2 sundaram: pygtk2 terjeros: php-ZendFramework tflink: lzma than: lzma, pygtk2 thomasvs: pygtk2 tibbs: pygtk2 tim4dev: php-ZendFramework tkasparek: pygtk2 tomeu: pygtk2 tomspur: pygtk2 tpokorra: pygtk2 twaugh: pygtk2 twoerner: pygtk2 walters: pygtk2 williamjmorenor: pygtk2 xavierb: pygtk2 yaderv: pygtk2 yaneti: pygtk2 yselkowitz: pygtk2 zkota: pygtk2 zultron: pygtk2 Orphans (73): autotrash bluecove bouml bouml-doc ecryptfs-simple fasd golang-github-AudriusButkevicius-kcp-go golang-github-AudriusButkevicius-pfilter golang-github-calmh-luhn golang-github-ccding-go-stun golang-github-cznic-b golang-github-cznic-fileutil golang-github-cznic-golex golang-github-cznic-internal golang-github-cznic-lex golang-github-cznic-lexer golang-github-cznic-lldb golang-github-cznic-mathutil golang-github-cznic-ql golang-github-cznic-sortutil golang-github-cznic-strutil golang-github-cznic-zappy golang-github-edsrzf-mmap-go golang-github-klauspost-reedsolomon golang-github-remyoudompheng-bigfft golang-github-templexxx-cpufeat golang-github-templexxx-reedsolomon golang-github-templexxx-xor golang-github-tjfoc-gmsm golang-github-xtaci-kcp-go golang-github-xtaci-smux golang-github-zillode-notify gossip hdapsd hoard jlibrtp jmake libgltf lzma maven-downloader maven-jsf-plugin maven-jxr nuvola-app-8tracks nuvola-app-deezer nuvola-app-google-play-music nuvola-app-jango nuvola-app-mixcloud openid4java-team parprouted pcapfix pg_journal php-ZendFramework port-allocator-maven-plugin pygtk2 python-adns python-ansible-tower-cli python-cookies python-parsley python-pyuv python-ripe-atlas-cousteau python-ripe-atlas-sagan python-socketIO-client python-softlayer python-txsocksx python-xhtml2pdf ratproxy ripe-atlas-tools scite supernova takari-local-repository tinyca2 tristripper wifi-radar Orphans (dependend on) (10): golang-github-cznic-fileutil golang-github-cznic-mathutil golang-github-klauspost-reedsolomon golang-github-templexxx-cpufeat lzma php-ZendFramework pygtk2 python-adns python-cookies python-socketIO-client Orphans (rawhide) for at least 6 weeks (dependend on) (5): golang-github-cznic-fileutil golang-github-cznic-mathutil golang-github-klauspost-reedsolomon golang-github-templexxx-cpufeat lzma Orphans (rawhide) (not depended on) (63): autotrash bluecove bouml bouml-doc ecryptfs-simple fasd golang-github-AudriusButkevicius-kcp-go golang-github-AudriusButkevicius-pfilter golang-github-calmh-luhn golang-github-ccding-go-stun golang-github-cznic-b golang-github-cznic-golex golang-github-cznic-internal golang-github-cznic-lex golang-github-cznic-lexer golang-github-cznic-lldb golang-github-cznic-ql golang-github-cznic-sortutil golang-github-cznic-strutil golang-github-cznic-zappy golang-github-edsrzf-mmap-go golang-github-remyoudompheng-bigfft golang-github-templexxx-reedsolomon golang-github-templexxx-xor golang-github-tjfoc-gmsm golang-github-xtaci-kcp-go golang-github-xtaci-smux golang-github-zillode-notify gossip hdapsd hoard jlibrtp jmake libgltf maven-downloader maven-jsf-plugin maven-jxr nuvola-app-8tracks nuvola-app-deezer nuvola-app-google-play-music nuvola-app-jango nuvola-app-mixcloud openid4java-team parprouted pcapfix pg_journal port-allocator-maven-plugin python-ansible-tower-cli python-parsley python-pyuv python-ripe-atlas-cousteau python-ripe-atlas-sagan python-softlayer python-txsocksx python-xhtml2pdf ratproxy ripe-atlas-tools scite supernova takari-local-repository tinyca2 tristripper wifi-radar Orphans (rawhide) for at least 6 weeks (not dependend on) (43): golang-github-AudriusButkevicius-kcp-go golang-github-AudriusButkevicius-pfilter golang-github-calmh-luhn golang-github-ccding-go-stun golang-github-cznic-b golang-github-cznic-golex golang-github-cznic-internal golang-github-cznic-lex golang-github-cznic-lexer golang-github-cznic-lldb golang-github-cznic-ql golang-github-cznic-sortutil golang-github-cznic-strutil golang-github-cznic-zappy golang-github-edsrzf-mmap-go golang-github-remyoudompheng-bigfft golang-github-templexxx-reedsolomon golang-github-templexxx-xor golang-github-tjfoc-gmsm golang-github-xtaci-kcp-go golang-github-xtaci-smux golang-github-zillode-notify gossip hdapsd hoard maven-downloader maven-jsf-plugin maven-jxr nuvola-app-8tracks nuvola-app-deezer nuvola-app-google-play-music nuvola-app-jango nuvola-app-mixcloud openid4java-team parprouted pcapfix pg_journal port-allocator-maven-plugin python-ansible-tower-cli python-pyuv python-softlayer ratproxy takari-local-repository Depending packages (rawhide) (181): Zim afflib ailurus arandr audio-convert-mod audit-viewer autodownloader avahi batti bleachbit blueproximity bmpanel2 cherrytree childsplay chirp cinnamon classification-banner claws-mail clearlooks-phenix comix deluge diffuse dreampie driconf earcandy encuentro exaile expendable findthatword flumotion fslint fwbackups fwfstab galternatives ganglia gcompris gdesklets gimp glade3 gnatcoll gnome-activity-journal gnome-desktop gnome-python2 gnome-python2-desktop gnome-python2-extras gnumeric gnuradio golang-github-AudriusButkevicius-kcp-go golang-github-cznic-b golang-github-cznic-fileutil golang-github-cznic-internal golang-github-cznic-lex golang-github-cznic-lexer golang-github-cznic-lldb golang-github-cznic-sortutil golang-github-cznic-strutil golang-github-templexxx-reedsolomon golang-github-templexxx-xor golang-github-xtaci-kcp-go gonvert googsystray gourmet gresistor gscribble gst-inspector gstreamer-python gtkparasite guake guestfs-browser gvrng gwsmhg hatari hippo-canvas icaro inkscape-sozi inkscape-table inksmoto international-time jbrout jumpnbump kde-print-manager key-mon keybinder kf5-kwindowsystem kio-extras kupfer kwin labyrinth ladish ldtp libappindicator libguestfs libhocr libmateweather lxappearance-obconf lxde-common mcomix metromap mirage mypaint nagstamon nbdkit nested nicotine+ notify-python nxt_python obconf-qt obmenu ocfs2-tools oggconvert openalchemist openbox openbox-theme-mistral-thin openbox-theme-mistral-thin-dark openerp pdfshuffler planner plasma-applet-redshift-control plasma-desktop plasma-integration plasma-workspace powerpc-utils-python pulseaudio-equalizer pybliographer pycam pygtkglext pygtksourceview pypoppler pyrenamer pyroom pysdm python-gtkextra python-kiwi-gtk python-responses python-ripe-atlas-cousteau python-sexy python2-matplotlib pywebkitgtk rabbitvcs radiotray rapid-photo-downloader revelation rhn-client-tools sleuthkit snap solfege stylus-toolbox sugar-base sugar-toolkit sugar-toolkit-gtk3 system-config-bind system-config-firewall system-config-httpd system-config-kickstart system-config-users system-switch-displaymanager system-switch-java testcloud thunarx-python tomoe tomoe-gtk torbrowser-launcher translation-filter transmission-remote-cli tryton tuna umit virtaal vte wallpapoz webacula whaawmp wicd winswitch wordgroupz x-tile xmount xpra xword zbar zynjacku Packages depending on packages orphaned (rawhide) for more than 6 weeks (35): afflib cinnamon clearlooks-phenix golang-github-AudriusButkevicius-kcp-go golang-github-cznic-b golang-github-cznic-fileutil golang-github-cznic-internal golang-github-cznic-lex golang-github-cznic-lexer golang-github-cznic-lldb golang-github-cznic-sortutil golang-github-cznic-strutil golang-github-templexxx-reedsolomon golang-github-templexxx-xor golang-github-xtaci-kcp-go guestfs-browser kde-print-manager kf5-kwindowsystem kio-extras kwin libguestfs lxappearance-obconf lxde-common nbdkit obconf-qt openbox openbox-theme-mistral-thin openbox-theme-mistral-thin-dark plasma-applet-redshift-control plasma-desktop plasma-integration plasma-workspace sleuthkit testcloud xmount -- The script creating this output is run and developed by Fedora Release Engineering. Please report issues at its pagure instance: https://pagure.io/releng/ The sources of this script can be found at: https://pagure.io/releng/blob/master/f/scripts/find_unblocked_orphans.py -- Miro Hrončok -- Phone: +420777974800 IRC: mhroncok

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MPFR 4
by Jerry James 26 Sep '19

26 Sep '19

Is anything happening with introducing MPFR 4 into Fedora? I found these: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/mpfr-4.0.0 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1537252 but they indicate that efforts to update have come to a halt. I ask because I have had to patch 2 of my packages to keep them working with MPFR 3, and I've got more that are said to work with either version 3 or version 4. I am willing to put some effort into making the update happen. I agree with the previous assessments that we will probably have to make the two versions parallel installable for awhile, possibly for quite awhile, until everything can be migrated to version 4. This is the list of source packages in Fedora 30 that depend on libmpfr, with asterisks by the ones I maintain, comaintain, or just tend to meddle with: R-Rmpfr Singular (*) apron (*) arb (*) arm-none-eabi-gcc-cs avr-gcc cross-gcc fawkes flint (*) gap-pkg-float (*) gappa (*) gawk gcc gdb genius ghdl giac gnome-calculator gretl ledger libbytesize libfplll (*) libmpc libqalculate libscs mingw-gcc mpfi (*) nacl-gcc ocaml-mlgmpidl ocaml-tplib (*) octave-interval openscad polymake (*) pynac (*) python-fpylll (*) python-gmpy2 (*) rasqal sagemath (*) sirocco (*) texlive-base why (*) Wow, I didn't realize how many packages I work with that consume mpfr. That makes 16 out of 41, so I can manage moving 40% of the mpfr-using packages over to version 4 all by myself. And, truth be told, there are 4 more on that list that I've committed changes to at one point or another, so I've had my fingers on 50% of them. Good grief. Is somebody working on this already, and if so, what have you accomplished so far, and what are your future plans? How can I help? -- Jerry James http://www.jamezone.org/

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What projects can we highlight for Hacktoberfest?
by Ben Cotton 24 Sep '19

24 Sep '19

We're just over a month away from Hacktoberfest[1], a month-long event where people can earn a t-shirt by contributing to open source projects (or at least ones hosted on GitHub). It occurs to me that we could have a post on the Community Blog (or maybe Fedora Magazine) that directs folks toward Fedora or Fedora-adjacent projects on GitHub. This is a good opportunity to get meaningful drive-by contributions and perhaps add a few consistent contributors. So if you were going to point the Fedora community at a GitHub-hosted project, what would you choose? [1] https://hacktoberfest.digitalocean.com/ -- Ben Cotton He / Him / His Fedora Program Manager Red Hat TZ=America/Indiana/Indianapolis

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Request to add new groups to comps.xml
by Danny Lee 24 Sep '19

24 Sep '19

Hello devel, The NeuroFedora SIG is working to create a Comp-Neuro Fedora Labs <https://labs.fedoraproject.org/> live image/installer. We would also like group our packages into an easier-to-install format for our target audience, which may include researchers who are new to Fedora. To this end we would like to respectfully request the addition of two new groups in Comps.XML <https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_use_and_edit_comps.xml_for_package_gr…>. The first group would be "neuro-simulators" which would include several simulation packages as mandatory installs and a dozen or so python packages as default installs. The second group would be "comp-neuro-tools" and would include many of the packages found on the Neuro-SIG group's page on src.fp.o <https://src.fedoraproject.org/group/neuro-sig> as well as the software being packaged on the NeuroFedora pagure <https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issues>. More information on the Comp-Neuro Lab image and NeuroFedora in general: * comps group discussion:https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/198 * NeuroFedora team:https://pagure.io/group/neuro-sig * NeuroFedora documentation:https://neuro.fedoraproject.org <https://neuro.fedoraproject.org/> * NeuroFedora blog:https://neuroblog.fedoraproject.org <https://neuroblog.fedoraproject.org/> * NeuroFedora packages:https://src.fedoraproject.org/group/neuro-sig * The logo/stickers etc for NeuroFedora were created by the Fedora design team and reside here:https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/blob/master/f/Artwork * We've already presented NeuroFedora to the neuroscience community at this year's annual conference, CNS*2019:https://www.cnsorg.org/cns-2019-quick. Our poster is here:https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/2019-NeuroFedora-poster-CNS/blob/master/f/2019-CNS-NeuroFedora.pdf -- Danny Lee <dreamer(a)panix.com> I have been impressed with the urgency of doing. Knowing is not enough; we must apply. Being willing is not enough; we must do. ~ Leonardo da Vinci

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Fedora 31 System-Wide Change proposal (late): No i686 Repositories
by Miro Hrončok 21 Sep '19

21 Sep '19

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Noi686Repositories (Ben is on vacation, so I announcing this on his behalf.) == Summary == Stop producing and distributing the Modular and Everything i686 repositories. == Owner == * Name: Kevin Fenzi * Email: kevin(a)scrye.com == Current status == * Targeted release: [[Releases/31| Fedora 31 ]] * Last updated:  {{REVISIONYEAR}}-{{REVISIONMONTH}}-{{REVISIONDAY2}} * Tracker bug: <will be assigned by the Wrangler> * Release notes tracker: <will be assigned by the Wrangler> == Detailed Description == With the dropping of the i686 kernel package it's no longer possible to directly install Fedora 31 or later on i686 hardware, however, it is still possibly to upgrade older releases as long as we continue to provide a repository. This will leave those users with an old possibly vulnerable kernel installed. The only other use/need for the repostories is to allow maintainers to debug and test fixes for multilib shipped packages, but the koji buildroot repo can be used for this use case. == Benefit to Fedora == * users won't try and upgrade old i686 installs with insecure kernels. * compose times will be decreased (no more gathering i686 packages up and running createrepo on them). * Updates push times will be reduced. * disk size on mirrors will be reduced. == Scope == * Proposal owners: ** modify pungi-fedora to no longer produce i386 repo for Everything and Modular, modify bodhi config for f31+ to not make i386 repos for updates/updates-testing. ** modify mock to use the koji buildroot for i686 for f31+ for those few users that need to build i686 packages locally. * Other developers: n/a * Release engineering: [https://pagure.io/releng/issues 8529] == Upgrade/compatibility impact == i686 users will not be able to upgrade, and will have to move to another supported arch. == How To Test == * Confirm that there are no trees under https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora-secondary/development/rawhide/Every… or https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora-secondary/development/rawhide/Modul… * Confirm that there are no trees under https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora-secondary/updates/31/{Everything|Mo… or https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora-secondary/updates/testing/31/{Every… * Confirm that mock can init a chroot for fedora-i386-31 using the koji buildroot repository. == User Experience == * Users will get updates and rawhide and rc composes faster. * Users will not be able to upgrade to a insecure Fedora configuration. == Contingency Plan == i686 trees will just continue to be composed and published. Users can upgrade to them (with an old kernel from f30). -- Miro Hrončok -- Phone: +420777974800 IRC: mhroncok

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swap on ZRAM, zswap, and Rust was: Better interactivity in low-memory situations
by Chris Murphy 18 Sep '19

18 Sep '19

Hi, This is yet another follow-up for this thread: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org… Basics: "zswap" compresses swap and uses a defined memory pool as a cache, with spill over (still compressed) going into a conventional swap partition. The memory pool doesn't appear as a separate block device. A conventional swap partition on a drive is required. https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux.git/tree/Docum… "swap on ZRAM" A ZRAM device appears as a block device, and is effectively a compressed RAM disk. It's common for this to be the exclusive swap device, of course it is volatile so in that configuration your system can't hibernate. But it's also possible to use swap priority in fstab to cause the ZRAM device to be used with higher priority, and a conventional swap partition on a drive with a lower priority. https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux.git/tree/Docum… What they do: Either strategy can help avoid swap thrashing, by moderating the transition from exclusively RAM based work, to heavy swapping on disk. In my testing, the most aggressive memory starved workloads still result in an unresponsive system. Neither are a complete solution, they really seem to just be moderators that kick the can down the road. But I do think it's an improvement especially in the incidental swap use case, where transition from memory to swap isn't noticeable. Which is better? I don't know. Seriously, that's what all of my testing as come down to. A user won't likely notice the difference. Both dynamically allocate memory to their "memory pools" on demand. But otherwise, they really are two very different implementations. Regardless, Fedora Workstation and probably even Fedora Server, should use one of them by default out of the box. IoT folks are already using swap on ZRAM by default, in lieu of a disk based swap partition. And Anaconda folks are doing the same for low memory devices when the installer is launched. I've been using zswap on Fedora Workstation edition on my laptop, and Fedora Server on an Intel NUC, for maybe two years (earlier this summer I switched both of them swap on ZRAM to compare). How are they different? There are several "swap on ZRAM" implementations. The zram package in Fedora right now is what IoT folks are using which installs a systemd service unit to setup the ZRAM block device, mkswap on it, and then swapon, during system startup. Simple. The ideal scenario is to get everyone on the same page, and so far it looks like systemd's zram-generator, built in Rust, meets all the requirements. That needs to be confirmed, but also right now there's a small problem, it's not working. So we kinda need a someone familiar with Rust and systemd to take this on, if we want to use the same thing everywhere. https://github.com/systemd/zram-generator/issues/4 Whereas zswap is setup by using boot parameters, which we could have the installer set, contingent on a conventional swap partition being created. zswap.enabled=1 zswap.compressor=lz4 zswap.max_pool_percent=20 zswap.zpool=zbud Zswap upstream tells me they're close to dropping the experimental status, hopefully by the end of the summer. It might be a bit longer before they're as confident with zpool type z3fold. Hackfest anyone? -- Chris Murphy

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