Am 02.01.2014 17:35, schrieb Richard W.M. Jones:
On Thu, Jan 02, 2014 at 04:28:59PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
look like it starts to happen again: a replacement which is not ready
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2014-January/444565.html https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2014-January/444563.html
please realize that a drop-in replacement *first* needs to be *really* drop-in and not "somehow like", otherwise all the things you may make better are worthless
Why did you even bother posting this message, if not to dismiss the hard work of people who actually do stuff, rather than spending all day trolling?
to prevent that the same as with GRUB2 and systemd way too early made it in a stable release happening again - and after that get again "why are you open your mouth now and not due testing" back
if this is "trolling" in your eyes i can't help you
replacing things too soon means lacking of functionality and bugs in cases which worked perfect over years - so for me if someone is going out and replace working things there must be a very good reason to do so and the minimum acceptance is that it must provide *all* capabilities of what is replaced
DNF is a planned replacement (some time in the future). Ales is quite correctly asking for feedback and opening things up to a wider userbase. Some things don't work, as he is aware
oh yeah "i see" with answers like "In practice however, a user doesn't type 'dnf erase -y kernel' by accident" - no i distribute "yum -y remove kernel" since years over a infrastructure *because i know* yum would never remove the running kernel
"If there are specific plugins you'd like to see sooner please open bugs for them" - oh no - the other way round things are working, there are yum-plugins over years in the fedora repos, so if someone goes out and start replacing yum he do not need bugreports