Hi.
I was looking today for old fuse from EPEL and was unable to find it. Seems, that packages that are moved to main RHEL (fuse is in 5.4 now) are purged completely.
I think, that all EPEL packages there were ever released should be available somewhere. It could be useful in situation like mine where one need to install package on old system - it was CentOS 5.3 in my case, or to downgrade some packages.
Alexey
On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 20:52:05 +0400 Alexey Torkhov atorkhov@gmail.com wrote:
Hi.
I was looking today for old fuse from EPEL and was unable to find it. Seems, that packages that are moved to main RHEL (fuse is in 5.4 now) are purged completely.
fuse was only in EPEL by mistake if it ever was. ;)
Until 5.4, there was no fuse support in the RHEL kernel, so fuse was useless until then.
I think, that all EPEL packages there were ever released should be available somewhere. It could be useful in situation like mine where one need to install package on old system - it was CentOS 5.3 in my case, or to downgrade some packages.
I think CentOS had fuse in their centosplus repo (along with a kernel that had fuse modules). Perhaps try there?
Now that we are using koji, it should keep all builds we ever do, but of course we only were able to import all the ones we had from plague at the time we switched.
kevin
On Fri, 2009-09-25 at 10:56 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 20:52:05 +0400 Alexey Torkhov atorkhov@gmail.com wrote:
I think, that all EPEL packages there were ever released should be available somewhere. It could be useful in situation like mine where one need to install package on old system - it was CentOS 5.3 in my case, or to downgrade some packages.
I think CentOS had fuse in their centosplus repo (along with a kernel that had fuse modules). Perhaps try there?
Now that we are using koji, it should keep all builds we ever do, but of course we only were able to import all the ones we had from plague at the time we switched.
If koji will keep packages forever that would be good. Thanks.
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Alexey Torkhov atorkhov@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, 2009-09-25 at 10:56 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 20:52:05 +0400 Alexey Torkhov atorkhov@gmail.com wrote:
I think, that all EPEL packages there were ever released should be available somewhere. It could be useful in situation like mine where one need to install package on old system - it was CentOS 5.3 in my case, or to downgrade some packages.
I think CentOS had fuse in their centosplus repo (along with a kernel that had fuse modules). Perhaps try there?
Now that we are using koji, it should keep all builds we ever do, but of course we only were able to import all the ones we had from plague at the time we switched.
If koji will keep packages forever that would be good. Thanks.
No it doesn't. Packages are retained for a certain amount of time but not forever due to space reasons.
On Fri, 2009-09-25 at 20:58 -0600, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Alexey Torkhov atorkhov@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, 2009-09-25 at 10:56 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 20:52:05 +0400 Alexey Torkhov atorkhov@gmail.com wrote:
I think, that all EPEL packages there were ever released should be available somewhere. It could be useful in situation like mine where one need to install package on old system - it was CentOS 5.3 in my case, or to downgrade some packages.
Now that we are using koji, it should keep all builds we ever do, but of course we only were able to import all the ones we had from plague at the time we switched.
If koji will keep packages forever that would be good. Thanks.
No it doesn't. Packages are retained for a certain amount of time but not forever due to space reasons.
Then, some place with enough storage space should be found. Like archive.fedoraproject.org. There is even FC-1 that was released several years ago could be found, but EPEL package that was there month ago is gone.
Alexey
On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 2:13 AM, Alexey Torkhov atorkhov@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, 2009-09-25 at 20:58 -0600, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Alexey Torkhov atorkhov@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, 2009-09-25 at 10:56 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 20:52:05 +0400 Alexey Torkhov atorkhov@gmail.com wrote:
I think, that all EPEL packages there were ever released should be available somewhere. It could be useful in situation like mine where one need to install package on old system - it was CentOS 5.3 in my case, or to downgrade some packages.
Now that we are using koji, it should keep all builds we ever do, but of course we only were able to import all the ones we had from plague at the time we switched.
If koji will keep packages forever that would be good. Thanks.
No it doesn't. Packages are retained for a certain amount of time but not forever due to space reasons.
Then, some place with enough storage space should be found. Like archive.fedoraproject.org. There is even FC-1 that was released several years ago could be found, but EPEL package that was there month ago is gone.
Well to answer your first question that started this off.. EPEL does not have any FUSE packages nor has it because kernel packages have been verbotten. rpmrepo or rpmfusion might have had them but not EPEL.
One the second, archive.fedoraproject.org deals with releases. Not every package that was released for a fedora is kept forever. A release is kept and the last update to a package in that release is kept. But if 20 updates occurred between the two, those aren't kept.
EPEL does not have 'releases' in the same manner Fedoraproject does and so it only keeps the latest package around. Trying to keep around terabytes of packages around is beyond what this volunteer part can deal with.
On Sat, 2009-09-26 at 10:10 -0600, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 2:13 AM, Alexey Torkhov atorkhov@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, 2009-09-25 at 20:58 -0600, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Alexey Torkhov atorkhov@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, 2009-09-25 at 10:56 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 20:52:05 +0400 Alexey Torkhov atorkhov@gmail.com wrote:
I think, that all EPEL packages there were ever released should be available somewhere. It could be useful in situation like mine where one need to install package on old system - it was CentOS 5.3 in my case, or to downgrade some packages.
Now that we are using koji, it should keep all builds we ever do, but of course we only were able to import all the ones we had from plague at the time we switched.
If koji will keep packages forever that would be good. Thanks.
No it doesn't. Packages are retained for a certain amount of time but not forever due to space reasons.
Then, some place with enough storage space should be found. Like archive.fedoraproject.org. There is even FC-1 that was released several years ago could be found, but EPEL package that was there month ago is gone.
Well to answer your first question that started this off.. EPEL does not have any FUSE packages nor has it because kernel packages have been verbotten. rpmrepo or rpmfusion might have had them but not EPEL.
Yeah, I saw the EL branches and tags and thought that it was built. Some other repos have the package, right.
One the second, archive.fedoraproject.org deals with releases. Not every package that was released for a fedora is kept forever. A release is kept and the last update to a package in that release is kept. But if 20 updates occurred between the two, those aren't kept.
EPEL does not have 'releases' in the same manner Fedoraproject does and so it only keeps the latest package around. Trying to keep around terabytes of packages around is beyond what this volunteer part can deal with.
Oh, right, only last package is kept on Fedora mirrors. I thought that some number of older updates is kept too - may be saw it in some other repos. So, then there is no need to keep them for EPEL.
Thanks for clarifications :)
Alexey
On Sat, 26 Sep 2009, Alexey Torkhov wrote:
On Fri, 2009-09-25 at 20:58 -0600, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Alexey Torkhov atorkhov@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, 2009-09-25 at 10:56 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 20:52:05 +0400 Alexey Torkhov atorkhov@gmail.com wrote:
I think, that all EPEL packages there were ever released should be available somewhere. It could be useful in situation like mine where one need to install package on old system - it was CentOS 5.3 in my case, or to downgrade some packages.
Now that we are using koji, it should keep all builds we ever do, but of course we only were able to import all the ones we had from plague at the time we switched.
If koji will keep packages forever that would be good. Thanks.
No it doesn't. Packages are retained for a certain amount of time but not forever due to space reasons.
Then, some place with enough storage space should be found. Like archive.fedoraproject.org. There is even FC-1 that was released several years ago could be found, but EPEL package that was there month ago is gone.
If you're interested in mailing me a check (and then doing so again every 4 years or so when the storage is EOLed) I'd be happy to accomidate this. Some stuff we have room for, some stuff we don't. All EPEL packages falls into the don't category.
-Mike
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 08:52:05PM +0400, Alexey Torkhov wrote:
Hi.
I was looking today for old fuse from EPEL and was unable to find it. Seems, that packages that are moved to main RHEL (fuse is in 5.4 now) are purged completely.
I think, that all EPEL packages there were ever released should be available somewhere. It could be useful in situation like mine where one need to install package on old system - it was CentOS 5.3 in my case, or to downgrade some packages.
Alexey
You could always build the RPM with koji against the sources:
http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewvc/rpms/fuse/EL-5/
Something like:
koji build --scratch dist-5E-epel \ 'cvs://cvs.fedoraproject.org/cvs/pkgs?rpms/fuse/EL-5#fuse-2_7_0-3_el5'
Would probably do the trick. In fact, I just kicked one off so you should be able to retrieve the RPM's shortly:
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1707322
Ray
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