10:01 * nirik looks around for the EPEL meeting. 10:02 * dgilmore is here 10:02 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: Ping 10:02 < mmcgrath> pong 10:03 < _blah_> dgilmore: i'd say upload what you've got to the wiki, and if people want to revise further we can. 10:04 -!- rayvd [i=rayvd@arthur.bludgeon.org] has joined #fedora-meeting 10:05 < dgilmore> done 10:05 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: meeting 10:05 < dgilmore> who else are we missing? 10:05 * mmcgrath is sort of here (also working on some infrastructure issues) 10:05 < mmcgrath> quaid: ping? 10:05 < mmcgrath> Jeff_S? 10:06 -!- notting [i=notting@redhat/notting] has joined #fedora-meeting 10:06 -!- Fabi [n=festifn@moinmoin/coreteam/florian] has joined #fedora-meeting 10:06 < dgilmore> Well what did everyone think of how things have gone since the announcement? 10:06 < notting> what sort of uptake do we have? do we have stats? 10:06 < mmcgrath> pretty good actually. 10:07 < warren> Is EPEL's homepage easy to find? 10:07 -!- nirik changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: EPEL Meeting|EPEL announcement happened -- are we satisfied with how everything worked out? 10:07 -!- giallu [n=giallu@81-174-26-126.static.ngi.it] has quit ["Leaving"] 10:07 * f13 peeks in 10:07 < mmcgrath> dgilmore: I saw a couple of articles done about epel 10:07 * _blah_ pushes f13 back to work on f8test1 10:07 < nirik> yeah, stats on repo usage would be nice... not sure how to gather those tho...like fedora I suppose? 10:08 * quaid is here, had to do some stuff that ran over 10:08 < dgilmore> warren: we probably should have a link on the front page of fp.o and fp.o/wiki 10:08 < mmcgrath> http://www.linux.com/feature/118304 10:08 < nirik> or perhaps a epel.fedoraproject.org cname? 10:08 < warren> redirect at least 10:08 < warren> too bad epel.org is taken 10:09 < dgilmore> nirik: that also 10:09 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: Red Hat's new Extra Packages for Enterprise Linux (EPEL) repository might be an excellent place to go fishing. 10:09 < dgilmore> i dont much like that 10:10 < rsc> is there a chance for epel.redhat.com? 10:10 < dgilmore> its Fedora's not Red Hat's 10:10 < warren> rsc, better to brand it with Fedora 10:10 < dgilmore> rsc: i dont want to go down that route 10:10 < rsc> dgilmore, warren: Accepted. 10:12 < nirik> who updates http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Statistics ? mspevack ? perhaps we could add a epel section there and add the same stats for it? 10:12 < nirik> or do we collect the same data? 10:12 < warren> EPEL users are technically different from Fedora 10:12 < mmcgrath> nirik: we could collect that data, do we want epel in general or both epel-5 and epel-4? 10:12 < warren> maybe we could add them both together 10:13 < nirik> it might be nice to see both epel4 and epel5... but I dont know how hard it is to generate those stats... 10:13 < mmcgrath> nirik: those numbers actually come from - https://admin.fedoraproject.org/cacti/graph.php?action=view&rra_id=all&a... 10:13 < nirik> ah, from smolt? 10:13 < mmcgrath> nirik: its not hard but I think I'm the only one who understands it. 10:13 < mmcgrath> well, some from smolt, some from grabbing ip's from the logs. 10:14 < nirik> yeah, we don't have smolt data, but uniq ips would be nice to know... better than nothing... 10:14 < dgilmore> anyone have anything else to add? 10:15 < nirik> (although, I suppose smolt could be built for epel4/epel5 barring missing dependencies, etc) 10:15 < mmcgrath> nirik: actually its already in epel5 :) 10:15 < dgilmore> nirik: its in epel5 10:15 < nirik> cool. I should install it and run it on my 5 machines. ;) 10:15 < mmcgrath> nirik: you should :) 10:16 < nirik> might be worth a mailing list post/blog mentioning that to let people know its out there for epel5. 10:16 -!- daMaestro [n=jon@fedora/damaestro] has joined #fedora-meeting 10:16 < nirik> anyhow, nothing else on this topic for me. 10:16 < mmcgrath> <nod> 10:16 < mmcgrath> nothing else here. I think its gone well. 10:16 -!- alexxed [n=alex@dyn-89.136.44.20.tm.upcnet.ro] has joined #fedora-meeting 10:16 -!- k0k [n=k0k@fedora/k0k] has joined #fedora-meeting 10:16 < _blah_> mmcgrath: are all dependencies resolved now that things have been moved to testing? 10:16 * nirik sees 15 centos5 and 10 rhel5 entries in smolt. 10:17 -!- dgilmore changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: EPEL Meeting| branch for EPEL if Fedora maintainer does not react -- dgilmore 10:17 < mmcgrath> _blah_: I think some are left (though its not many, last check it was 3 and the owners were notified). 10:17 < _blah_> dgilmore: i like the version you mailed and put into the wiki. 10:17 < mmcgrath> I think it was 2 in rhel4 and 1 in rhel5 10:17 < dgilmore> sorry it took so long i sent my proposal just before the meeting 10:17 < mmcgrath> dgilmore: I think your suggestion is very reasonable. 10:18 < nirik> dgilmore: +1 from me on your proposal. We can modify later if we need to. 10:18 < _blah_> for the record a link to the current version in the wiki is:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL/GuidelinesAndPolicies#head-00c9e731bb7bc5... 10:18 < dgilmore> If there are no objections we will take that as accepted 10:19 -!- bpepple|lt [n=bpepple|@adsl-75-42-209-184.dsl.wotnoh.sbcglobal.net] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 10:20 -!- alexxed [n=alex@dyn-89.136.44.20.tm.upcnet.ro] has left #fedora-meeting [] 10:20 < nirik> shall we move on? 10:20 < dgilmore> I think so 10:20 -!- dgilmore changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: new push scripts for pushing to testing, adjust mock configs to use 10:20 -!- bpepple [n=bpepple@adsl-75-42-209-184.dsl.wotnoh.sbcglobal.net] has joined #fedora-meeting 10:20 < dgilmore> i still need to do this 10:21 < dgilmore> I will do it tonight 10:21 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: can you remind me if i dont please 10:21 < nirik> so for security (if any) we are going to manually move packages as needed? 10:21 < mmcgrath> will do 10:21 < dgilmore> yes 10:21 < dgilmore> security will need manual handling 10:22 < nirik> sounds good. Let me know if I can assist any with that. 10:22 < dgilmore> will do 10:22 -!- dgilmore changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: EPEL Meeting: EPEL announcement happened -- what next? 10:23 < mmcgrath> dgilmore: good question. 10:23 < mmcgrath> Things are going pretty well. 10:23 < dgilmore> OK what now? 10:23 < nirik> more packages, more maintainers, more users. ;) 10:23 -!- rwmjones [n=rwmjones@87.127.66.208] has quit ["Closed connection"] 10:23 < nirik> if we could move to koji at some point and bodhi that would be good... 10:24 < dgilmore> that needs to be done but requires coders 10:24 < nirik> yeah. ;( 10:25 < dgilmore> does anyone have ideas on how to get more packages in EPEL 10:26 < nirik> I have some more I am going to do, but haven't had time... hopefully soon I will get munin in and possibly will look at Xfce (matching the centos extra versions so we don't conflict if possible) 10:27 < dgilmore> i think xfce would be good to have 10:27 < dgilmore> i think silug has yet to build alot of his perl modules due to missing deps 10:27 < mmcgrath> <nod> 10:28 < mmcgrath> There are a lot of things we'd like to branch that deps are missing for 10:28 < nirik> just takes time to make sure things are branched and then work right, etc... 10:29 < dgilmore> yep 10:29 < _blah_> i'd like to see rt3 and bugzilla 3 in there 10:29 < dgilmore> it would be nice for someone to see whats branched and not built 10:30 < nirik> 11 open epel bugs... so we have some users at least. ;) 10:31 < nirik> shall we talk yum for epel4 ? 10:31 -!- rwmjones [n=rwmjones@87.127.66.208] has joined #fedora-meeting 10:31 < nirik> and move what next? to the mailing list? 10:33 < dgilmore> i think we should talk about yum on the list 10:34 < dgilmore> I personally think we provide the version thats in CentOS but without a /etc/yum.conf file 10:34 < mmcgrath> dgilmore: do you agree with the 0. in release? 10:36 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: i see the point of it yeah 10:37 < nirik> yeah, it seems fine to me... 10:37 -!- AravindSeshadri [n=AravindS@0-11-43-71-59-38.ceat.okstate.edu] has joined #fedora-meeting 10:38 < mmcgrath> I guess we want to ship yum with no yum configs. 10:38 < mmcgrath> maybe a /etc/yum.conf that contains a comment to note that it shouldn't be used. 10:39 < nirik> yeah... 10:42 < dgilmore> yep 10:42 < dgilmore> that seems sane 10:42 < dgilmore> lets put it on the list get buy in from everyone 10:42 -!- dgilmore changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: EPEL Meeting: Free chat 10:42 < dgilmore> anyone have anything to add? 10:42 * mmcgrath has nothing 10:43 * dgilmore will close in 60 10:43 * dgilmore will close in 30 10:43 * dgilmore will close in 20 10:44 * dgilmore will close in 10 10:44 -!- notting [i=notting@redhat/notting] has left #fedora-meeting ["Ex-Chat"] 10:44 < dgilmore> ==== Meeting closed =====
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