Fedora Games SIG May 2013

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no more categories of software with Fedora 19?
by Paul Dufresne 24 May '13

24 May '13

While trying the USB key I made with Fedora 19 games spin, I have no software categories anymore. Activities/Show Applications, choosing 'all' at the bottom, with Fedora 18 I have categories to the right. But not with that USB key Fedora game spin ... don't know if it is a Fedora 19 change, problem, or game spin related. If I open the program called 'Software', I do see the categories. But they are all empty! Even the 'Other' category is empty.

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State and comments of F19 spin games
by Paul Dufresne 24 May '13

24 May '13

While testing games on Fedora-19-Nightly-i686-Live- games-20130518.11-1.iso I have taken notes. Putting here: abe: ok advanced strategic command: ok allex the alligator: sound is bad, like if CPU too slow alien blaster: ok amoebax: ok amacycle: ok astromenace: ok auriferous: ok ballbuster: problem have been automatically reported while starting ballz: like to slow, sound, not really playable battle of wesnoth: ok battle tanks: ok beneath a steel: long intro, ok blobwars: ok bombardier: ok boswars: ok, is it build from svn version? boxes: Hey, that's not a game! extreme tux racer: ok gcompris: ok, new version! supertuxkart: ok, but version 0.7.3 rather than 0.8 (dec, 2012)

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Re: Saving games with the Game spin?
by Paul Dufresne 23 May '13

23 May '13

It's hard to reply to list with GMail. ;-( I am summarizing what I do to make my spin game USB key, which should be able to save files on it. Note that because of the way overlay persistent memory works, erasing files on the USB key, will NOT give you more space. So you are doom to begin once again a day. I have read http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_and_use_Live_USB and I conclude that 'the only' tool to write a game spin disk iso image on a USB key while being able to save on it is to use livecd-iso-to-disk that is part of the livecd-tools package that you could install with: su -c 'yum install livecd-tools' This suppose you have Fedora already installed! I found that my USB key was /dev/sdb1 by looking the output of mount: ... /dev/sdb1 on /run/media/paul/B874-A0CD type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,uid=1000,gid=1000,fmask=0022,dmask=0077,codepage=437,iocharset=ascii,shortname=mixed,showexec,utf8,flush,errors=remount-ro,uhelper=udisks2) YOU HAVE TO BE SURE YOU ARE USING YOUR USB KEY PARTITION, NOT NECESSARY /DEV/SDB1 BECAUSE YOU COULD ERASE YOUR DISK (I SUPPOSE) BY MISTAKE. [paul@ip216-239-66-63 ~]$ su -c "umount /dev/sdb1" Mot de passe : ** Avoid using more than 2000 in next line, if using VFAT ** *** Also, my system is not recent enough to use EFI BIOS, so it is easier, read doc if your compute is too recent *** [paul@ip216-239-66-63 ~]$ su -c "livecd-iso-to-disk --overlay-size-mb 2000 ./Fedora-19-Nightly-i686-Live-games-20130518.11-1.iso /dev/sdb1" Mot de passe : Verifying image... /home/paul/Fedora-19-Nightly-i686-Live-games-20130518.11-1.iso: 00d551a97c547c8e216b470856ed3c62 Fragment sums: d65c11b4e715551d537691d841279a11b4fc5f44f4e117cb2aec837ad6e1 Fragment count: 20 Press [Esc] to abort check. Checking: 100.0% The media check is complete, the result is: PASS. It is OK to use this media. Partition isn't marked bootable! You can mark the partition as bootable with # /sbin/parted /dev/sdb (parted) toggle N boot (parted) quit [paul@ip216-239-66-63 ~]$ su -c "parted /dev/sdb" Mot de passe : GNU Parted 3.1 Utilisation de /dev/sdb Bievenue sur GNU Parted ! Tapez 'help' pour voir la liste des commandes. (parted) help ... (parted) print Modèle: FLASH Drive SK_USB20 (scsi) Disque /dev/sdb : 8210MB Taille des secteurs (logiques/physiques): 512B/512B Table de partitions : msdos Disk Flags: Numéro Début Fin Taille Type Système de fichiers Fanions 1 2851kB 8210MB 8207MB primary fat32 (parted) toggle 1 boot (parted) print Modèle: FLASH Drive SK_USB20 (scsi) Disque /dev/sdb : 8210MB Taille des secteurs (logiques/physiques): 512B/512B Table de partitions : msdos Disk Flags: Numéro Début Fin Taille Type Système de fichiers Fanions 1 2851kB 8210MB 8207MB primary fat32 démarrage (parted) quit Information: Ne pas oublier de mettre à jour /etc/fstab si nécessaire. [paul@ip216-239-66-63 ~]$ su -c "livecd-iso-to-disk --overlay-size-mb 2000 ./Fedora-19-Nightly-i686-Live-games-20130518.11-1.iso /dev/sdb1" Mot de passe : Verifying image... /home/paul/Fedora-19-Nightly-i686-Live-games-20130518.11-1.iso: 00d551a97c547c8e216b470856ed3c62 Fragment sums: d65c11b4e715551d537691d841279a11b4fc5f44f4e117cb2aec837ad6e1 Fragment count: 20 Press [Esc] to abort check. Checking: 100.0% The media check is complete, the result is: PASS. It is OK to use this media. Copying live image to target device. squashfs.img ... This took about 20 mins for me (at 2 to 4 MB/s... might be my USB slot be slow). squashfs.img 4072980480 100% 3.49MB/s 0:18:32 (xfer#1, to-check=0/1) sent 4073477746 bytes received 31 bytes 3658264.73 bytes/sec total size is 4072980480 speedup is 1.00 osmin.img 16384 100% 0.00kB/s 0:00:00 (xfer#1, to-check=0/1) sent 16457 bytes received 31 bytes 32976.00 bytes/sec total size is 16384 speedup is 0.99 Updating boot config file Initializing persistent overlay file [This took about 7 mins] 2000+0 enregistrements lus 2000+0 enregistrements écrits 2097152000 octets (2,1 GB) copiés, 532,606 s, 3,9 MB/s Installing boot loader Target device is now set up with a Live image! [paul@ip216-239-66-63 ~]$ 532 seconds is a bit less than 9 mins. So about 30 mins for all I think. I am now ready to reboot and probably use F12 to boot on the USB key. Wish me good luck!

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Saving games with the Game spin?
by Paul Dufresne 23 May '13

23 May '13

Well, I am downloading nightly builds but now that I think about it... If I merely use dd to 'burn' the iso image to USB key, I don't expect I could save the games played on the USB key. Or could I? I guess I might want to use a 8 Gb key, with 4 Gb for the image itself, and the rest for the /home partition. Not sure how, if, this is easily doable.

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Will Game spin for Fedora 18 came out?
by Paul Dufresne 23 May '13

23 May '13

Fedora Game seems to not be out for Fedora 18 now: "Games Spin is not available for the last Fedora release. Join us to make it real again!" taken from http://spins.fedoraproject.org/fr/games/ Will it be officialy released? I would like to download an ISO of Game spin Fedora 18 on a USB key for my sister to try. I now use Fedora 18, and I may evaluate the possibility to build an ISO image from the kickstart file that seems to exist for Fedora 18, but I never done so, and will probably try: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Games/GamesLive with: Kickfile url taken from https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Games_Spin&oldid=318146

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2 Ideas about the Game SIG
by Alexandre Moine 17 May '13

17 May '13

Hi everybody, I've got 2 ideas today about the game SIG: 1) We can create a meta-package for the game in Fedora? Like a meta-paquet for all RPG in the official repo, a meta-paquet for all FPS in the official repo... Because is very difficult to know the open-source game in Fedora. Yes we have lgdb, and lot of similar, but they doesn't speak about Fedora and the game in the official repo. What do you think about this idea? 2) We can create a non open-source repo for the game. I know it isn't in the philosophy of Fedora, but the Game isn't in the open-source philosophy. It's too difficult to make a good open-source game. I think it's better to help the games societies to make a linux version of his program. I want push on this repo a game like Wolfenstein: Ennemy Territory, Heroes of Newerth or Regnum Online. What do you think about this idea? Thank you for your response, Alexandre, Fedora user and ambassador

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Help wanted removing --vendor from spec files
by Toshio Kuratomi 01 May '13

01 May '13

Greetings Games SIG, this is a request for help in cleaning up one area of spec files that has affected a good many games packages. == Background == For Fedora 19 we're trying to get rid of the vendorization of .desktop files. This is a legacy of Fedora Extras and early Fedora days when Guidelines specified that .desktop files should be installed with: desktop-file-install --vendor "fedora" [...] It was realized after a few releases that desktop-file-install's --vendor flag caused issues because its implementation was to rename the .desktop file; prepending the value of vendor to the filename. In the past we decided that new packages would not use --vendor but that packages that already did so must keep doing so. This is because software that customized the menus would likely copy the .desktop file (complete with the vendor prefix). If we stopped installing with --vendor, anyone who customized those entries in their menus would end up with two entries because none of the software would be able to figure out that the entries were really for the same thing. For Fedora 19 we (FPC and FESCo) have decided that it's time to get rid of this legacy behaviour. If we can get rid of --vendor in all spec files for F19 and above, then users will only suffer ill effects once, when they upgrade from a previous release to F19. Getting rid of vendor will solve issues for GNOME3 and other softweare which doesn't handle the file renaming that --vendor does so now is a good time to do so. == Help Needed == I've assembled a list of packages that are installing .desktop files with vendorized filenames: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Toshio/Devendorize_desktop_files#List_o… as well as some tips for porting spec files so that they can work on both Fedora 19+ and older Fedora and EPEL releases. a few provenpackagers have been working on the list of packages but it is a slow process with so many packages to change. It would be great if more people would join in. There are a lot of games in the list of packages so I was hoping that some people from the games SIG might either modify their own packages and check them off the list or, if they're provenpackagers, join in in porting any packages that are using --vendor to no longer use it in F19+. It would be great if we could get this done before Fedora 19 branches from rawhide (2013-03-12) as after that date we'll have to modify packages in two branches, the F19 and Rawhide trees. Thanks for any help, -Toshio

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