i18n July 2010

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Re: L10N QA Template for F14
by Igor Pires Soares 29 Jul '10

29 Jul '10

Em Qui, 2010-07-29 às 14:53 +0800, He Rui escreveu: > On 07/29/2010 04:16 AM, Igor Pires Soares wrote: > > Those tests are labeled as language tests but they are also intended for > > input method testing, what is more related to i18n IMHO. On the other > > hand, they are more properly handled by the l10n because of their > > requirements. So maybe we just need to add a link in the l10n tests > > template pointing to the i18n installation tests cases along with some > > additional instructions, because I'm sure that most translators are not > > aware of i18n test cases. > > > > > Okay, that's cool. I added a link for the i18n installation test cases at [1]. I also created a page explaining the L10N test procedure [2]. It still is a draft, so if someone wants to make it better it would be appreciated. > > Hosting it as a test day is a great idea, so we can have l10n and i18n > > guys together. I can send an email to the l10n list asking for > > collaboration. > Thanks, it would be appreciated! And we can also publicize this event to > local communities for maximum attendance. > > > Software translation deadline is on 2010-08-31, so we > > could have the test day on 2010-09-02. There is an open slot. What do > > you think? > > > > > That day is tricky. Beta Test Compose is supposed to be posted on > 2010-09-02 [*], which however is American time. Therefore, in some parts > like Asia, Beta images are still unavailable at that day. So if you > agree, we can have it on 2010-09-09, the day in the following week. Then > we could at least have Beta TC candidates for testing. Is it okay for you? I agree, no problem for me. We can have it on 2010-09-09. [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Fedora_14_l10n_Results_Template [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:L10n_Test_Procedure -- Igor Pires Soares Fedora I18N/L10N QA BrOffice.org Spin Maintainer https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Igor

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Re: L10N QA Template for F14
by Igor Pires Soares 28 Jul '10

28 Jul '10

Em Qua, 2010-07-28 às 15:12 +0800, He Rui escreveu: > > Unfortunately, the i18n team doesn't have a specific test case template > > to cover keyboard testings in Anaconda [1]. But we do have test cases > > covering i18n installation [2]. > > Hehe, these tests are created by myself with guidance from Adam, James > and Jens. But I think [2] should be renamed as l10n installation since > l10n team is in charge of the translation? Those tests are labeled as language tests but they are also intended for input method testing, what is more related to i18n IMHO. On the other hand, they are more properly handled by the l10n because of their requirements. So maybe we just need to add a link in the l10n tests template pointing to the i18n installation tests cases along with some additional instructions, because I'm sure that most translators are not aware of i18n test cases. > > Anyway, we still have to write a specific test > > case template if we want help from the L10N members. I believe this is > > worth testing because we had a lot of trouble with this issue during the > > Fedora 13 development cycle. > > Yeah, recently I found a bug(#617040) in F13 GA which even prevents > install by using Arabic language. This is one of the issues which should > have been discovered under the F13 cycle. > > So to improve on this, in F14 cycle, how about we hosting it as a test > day topic[3]? The translation is gonna be finished after Alpha phase, so > this test day could be someday in the beta phase targeting on language > translation and keyboard tests in anaconda for Beta candidates. Test > cases[2] could be further modified or changed for use, and then we need > to find testers both inside and outside the groups to maximum the > participation and bugs discovery on that day(s). > > What do you think of this? Hosting it as a test day is a great idea, so we can have l10n and i18n guys together. I can send an email to the l10n list asking for collaboration. Software translation deadline is on 2010-08-31, so we could have the test day on 2010-09-02. There is an open slot. What do you think? > [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:I18n_Test_Cases > [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:I18n_Installation > [3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Fedora_14_test_days -- Igor Pires Soares Fedora I18N/L10N QA BrOffice.org Spin Maintainer https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Igor

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Re: L10N QA Template for F14
by Igor Pires Soares 23 Jul '10

23 Jul '10

Em Sex, 2010-07-23 às 15:18 +0800, He Rui escreveu: > Hi Igor, > > The template looks quite good, and I did some minor changes on it, hope > it's helpful. I found out that the tests in your template are to test > packages on desktop, so I'm curious about the language/keyboard tests in > anaconda during installation of images(such as boot.iso, DVD, or CD). I > had a talk with noriko earlier, she told me that the translation of > built images will be due before 2010-08-23, therefore the test of this > part is planed to happen between 08-23 and 08-31[1]. > > So will there also be a similar test template and test results page for > tracking the tests of translation and keyboard in anaconda? > > > Thanks, > Hurry > > [1] > http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-14/f-14-trans-tasks.html > Hurry, thanks for making it better. Unfortunately, the i18n team doesn't have a specific test case template to cover keyboard testings in Anaconda [1]. But we do have test cases covering i18n installation [2]. Testing this could be trick, since it demands different keyboards in different languages. Probably, the easier way of doing so is to ask the L10N members for testing their keyboards while testing the translations. I think that the existing test cases are not executed in that way. Anyway, we still have to write a specific test case template if we want help from the L10N members. I believe this is worth testing because we had a lot of trouble with this issue during the Fedora 13 development cycle. [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:I18n_Test_Cases [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:I18n_Installation Regards -- Igor Pires Soares Fedora I18N/L10N QA https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Igor

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ibus-input-pad & input-pad released
by Takao Fujiwara 12 Jul '10

12 Jul '10

input-pad 0.1.1 & ibus-input-pad 0.1.2 are released. Public Location: http://code.google.com/p/input-pad/ The input pad is a tool to send a character on button to text applications. The command input-pad is a standalone application and ibus-input-pad provides input-pad on IBus (input method) This application can sends several characters: - symbol table (¢, £, ¥) - number table (Ⅰ, Ⅱ, Ⅲ) - technical unit table (℃, ℉, ㎞) - arrow table (←, ↑, →, ↓) - chat smiley table (:), :-), :-D) - HTML char reference table (&, ", <, >) - date command table - code point dialog - keysym with keyboard layout (Zenkaku_Hankaku, Ctrl+Space, NumLock) - XKB layout via libxklavier - $HOME/.config/pad support for user directory If you use Fedora 12, 13, you can use input-pad with IBus. ibus-input-pad requires input-pad. # yum install input-pad ibus-input-pad If you use Fedora rawhide, the setting dialog for ibus-input-pad, Acronym table and eek module are also available. # yom install --enablerepo=rawhide input-pad input-pad-eek ibus-input-pad [1] Download tarball: http://code.google.com/p/input-pad/downloads/list Development: http://github.com/fujiwarat/input-pad/ http://github.com/fujiwarat/ibus-input-pad/ Bug Report: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Fedora&component=input-pad https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Fedora&component=ibus-inp… [1] eekboard is a Virtual Keyboard for GNOME http://github.com/ueno/eekboard/

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today's meeting
by Jens-Ulrik Petersen 07 Jul '10

07 Jul '10

Reminder that today's i18n meeting is starting shortly: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2010-07-08

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