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Help needed from folks in Delhi
by sankarshan 28 May '08

28 May '08

Hi, iLUG-D and CSI are organizing a seminar / workshop at Indraprastha Engineering College on June 7. Is anyone in or around Delhi available to help out with Fedora presence ? ~sankarshan -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work

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Planet Fedora
by Rahul Sundaram 28 May '08

28 May '08

Hi, If you are a Fedora contributor, note that the method for adding blogs to Planet Fedora has changed to be more of a self service one. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Planet Make sure your blog is aggregated following the instructions. If you have any difficulties, feel free to contact admin AT fedoraproject.org Rahul

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APAC ambassadors meeting [Sunday, June 8, 2008] details.
by susmit shannigrahi 27 May '08

27 May '08

Hi All, Thank you all for your response. I can see there is a bit confusion about the details of this meeting. So I am resending the details. * The meeting will be held in the #fedora-meeting channel on freenode[1]. * Timing is here[2]. Please check your local time. * The agenda is here[3]. Please update this with the topics you feel important. * Considering a few members are new, here are the links[4][5] to setup your irc client, if you have not done already. If you need anything else, please let me know. See you all there :) Thanks. [1] freenode.net [2] http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2008&month=6&day=… [3] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-06-08 [4] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/IRCSetup [5] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/IRCHowTo -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi =============================================

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APAC ambassadors meeting on Sunday, June 8, 2008 at 10:00:00 UTC
by susmit shannigrahi 23 May '08

23 May '08

Hi all, Hope you all are doing fine. It has been over a month till we had a meeting. How about having another? This meeting is absolutely necessary as we are trying to organise ourselves and have a lot to discuss. It is on Sunday, June 8, 2008 at 10:00:00 UTC. So that gives us sufficient time to discuss things, plan, and make drafts. You can check the timing here.[1] As always, this is subject to change if majority have problem with the date/timing. Also I hope to see a few more people in the meeting. Last time only 7-8 people were present (we have 61 ambassadors). See you there. :) [1] http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2008&month=6&day=… -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi =============================================

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F9, FreeMedia and questions around it
by sankarshan 23 May '08

23 May '08

Hi, I had a single question around F9 and FreeMedia and the latter specifically. What is a more pressing problem - [1] ensuring that every request gets a media or, [2] getting the initial media set to those who are participating in the FreeMedia program so as to enable them to reach out to the requests The reason I ask is that it would influence the way we can attempt to address this problem. If, [1] is the need of the day, we would try to get a substantial number of LiveMedia created and shipped to a select few folks based on the trends of FreeMedia requests. Besides getting them to MirrorManagers in India. If, [2] is seem to be the bottleneck, then it would be an easier task to generate a Everything (x86 and x86_64) and a LiveMedia set created and sent to folks who would agree to be contact points across regions. The constraints in the scenario are: i] there is only a finite number of LiveMedia that can be created ii] postage and courier charges are the ones where most money is spent iii] the quantity of LiveMedia done as per [1] has to be consumed before F10 is out So, what do I push to get done ? ~sankarshan -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work

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Only a DVD writer is required!!! Please help...
by susmit shannigrahi 23 May '08

23 May '08

Hi all, * This is for increasing Fedora Media's availability in India. * Please note, you need not spend _any_ money. * If you have a DVD writer and can donate a few minutes from your busy schedule, please list your name here.[1] * When users contact you, ask them to meet you with a blank CD/DVD as and when your time permits. All you need is to burn the CD/DVD. [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/India/LocalContacts Thanks. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi =============================================

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[Fwd: I want a virtual Fedora coffee table book and you are going to help me get it.]
by sankarshan 23 May '08

23 May '08

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: I want a virtual Fedora coffee table book and you are going to help me get it. Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 12:30:54 -0800 From: Jeff Spaleta <jspaleta(a)gmail.com> Reply-To: For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base <fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com> To: For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base <fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com> References: <604aa7910805221317ue692e8ctb9c2a21c0f8508b9(a)mail.gmail.com> So, does anyone remember a book called "Love" where this photographer found this cheap little plastic heart with the word Love on it and decided to get a candid picture of as many 'interesting' people holding that little chunk of plastic as they could. The photographer then compiled the pictures into a little coffee table book full of these pictures and little stories concerning the meeting. A book I repeatedly bought as a standard gift back when i was dating and V-day rolled around. But I digress.... I would really love, absolutely love, to see us compile a book like that..filled with pictures of our contributors holding up a certain trinket common plastic trinket which symbolized what our project stands for. Fill the book with pictures and short little testimonials concerning that person and Fedora. We'd have to decide on a trinket that people could easily get their hands on. If we make it a physical traditional publication, we sell it and give the profits to a charity. Or we can make it an at-cost on-demand publication. We could even hand them out as recognition awards. -jef -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work

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Re: [Ambassadors] Re: Free Media Distribution - India
by sankarshan 22 May '08

22 May '08

Hi, Santosh this is really nice on your part. Thank you. I am not too sure if there is a process by which The Fedora Project (in India) can accept this offer :) however, individual Ambassadors/ Points of Contact for the Media Program can perhaps work out a solution. Putting the fedora-india list in as we have been discussing around the FreeMedia issues in India ~sankarshan Santosh Kumar wrote: > Our free media program has been sloppy for sometime now and to > give it a head start, I would like to donate 500 Blank DVD's for you > guys to get started with and i promise to replenish the DVD's as the > stock reduces. How could we guys co-ordinate? > > Regards > Santosh Kumar -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work

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Re: Fedora-india Digest, Vol 9, Issue 14
by nehal dattani 22 May '08

22 May '08

i have added my name in the page......... anybody from ahmedabad/gujarat can contact me on the mentioned mail id regards, NehalDattani On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 9:30 PM, <fedora-india-request(a)redhat.com> wrote: > Send Fedora-india mailing list submissions to > fedora-india(a)redhat.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > fedora-india-request(a)redhat.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > fedora-india-owner(a)redhat.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Fedora-india digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Only a DVD writer is required!!! Please help... > (susmit shannigrahi) > 2. Re: Only a DVD writer is required!!! Please help... (Debarshi Ray) > 3. Re: Only a DVD writer is required!!! Please help... > (susmit shannigrahi) > 4. Re: Only a DVD writer is required!!! Please help... > (Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay) > 5. Re: Only a DVD writer is required!!! Please help... (Mani A) > 6. Re: Only a DVD writer is required!!! Please help... > (susmit shannigrahi) > 7. Re: F9, FreeMedia and questions around it (susmit shannigrahi) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 08:22:18 +0530 > From: "susmit shannigrahi" <thinklinux.ssh(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Only a DVD writer is required!!! Please help... > To: fedora-india(a)redhat.com, fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com, > "For > discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base" > <fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com> > Message-ID: > <ffadd1240805211952gca9be4bgceaca024d9bd5e6d(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hi all, > > * This is for increasing Fedora Media's availability in India. > > * Please note, you need not spend _any_ money. > > * If you have a DVD writer and can donate a few minutes from your > busy schedule, please list your name here.[1] > > * When users contact you, ask them to meet you with a blank CD/DVD as > and when your time permits. > All you need is to burn the CD/DVD. > > > [1] > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/India/LocalContacts > > Thanks. > > > -- > Regards, > Susmit. > > ============================================= > ssh > 0x86DD170A > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi > ============================================= > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 10:10:31 +0530 > From: "Debarshi Ray" <debarshi.ray(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: Only a DVD writer is required!!! Please help... > To: "susmit shannigrahi" <thinklinux.ssh(a)gmail.com> > Cc: fedora-india(a)redhat.com > Message-ID: > <3170f42f0805212140j585a7b69s5f30d919f70d9ea2(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > * If you have a DVD writer and can donate a few minutes from your > > busy schedule, please list your name here.[1] > > > > * When users contact you, ask them to meet you with a blank CD/DVD as > > and when your time permits. > > All you need is to burn the CD/DVD. > > If I enlist myself, then how do I get the seed content? In my case, I > can easily get it from the WBUT mirror, but is there a procedure that > everyone can follow? Maybe the ambassadors could arrange for the seed > content to reach the "media burners" from the mirror managers. > > Cheers, > Debarshi > -- > "From what we get, we can make a living; what we give, however, makes a > life." > -- Arthur Ashe > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 10:32:28 +0530 > From: "susmit shannigrahi" <thinklinux.ssh(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: Only a DVD writer is required!!! Please help... > To: debarshi.ray(a)gmail.com > Cc: fedora-india(a)redhat.com > Message-ID: > <ffadd1240805212202m951f7edi981b1bc8f524a2c(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 10:10 AM, Debarshi Ray <debarshi.ray(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> * If you have a DVD writer and can donate a few minutes from your > >> busy schedule, please list your name here.[1] > >> > >> * When users contact you, ask them to meet you with a blank CD/DVD as > >> and when your time permits. > >> All you need is to burn the CD/DVD. > > > > If I enlist myself, then how do I get the seed content? In my case, I > > can easily get it from the WBUT mirror, but is there a procedure that > > everyone can follow? > > No. > > > Maybe the ambassadors could arrange for the seed > > content to reach the "media burners" from the mirror managers. > > Sure. Why not? > > > -- > Regards, > Susmit. > > ============================================= > ssh > 0x86DD170A > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi > ============================================= > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 15:08:08 +0530 > From: Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay <foss.mailinglists(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: Only a DVD writer is required!!! Please help... > To: fedora-india(a)redhat.com > Message-ID: <48353F00.5030606(a)gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > Debarshi Ray wrote: > > > If I enlist myself, then how do I get the seed content? In my case, I > > can easily get it from the WBUT mirror, but is there a procedure that > > everyone can follow? Maybe the ambassadors could arrange for the seed > > content to reach the "media burners" from the mirror managers. > > There isn't. But this was part of the question set that I had asked in a > separate mail : > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-india/2008-May/msg00025.html > > > > > > -- > > http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published > http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science > http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 19:39:44 +0530 > From: "Mani A" <a.mani.cms(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: Only a DVD writer is required!!! Please help... > To: fedora-india(a)redhat.com > Message-ID: > <78323d480805220709r13ae0d99pd1167e51e4087f1a(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 8:22 AM, susmit shannigrahi > <thinklinux.ssh(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > * This is for increasing Fedora Media's availability in India. > > > > * Please note, you need not spend _any_ money. > > > > * If you have a DVD writer and can donate a few minutes from your > > busy schedule, please list your name here.[1] > > > > * When users contact you, ask them to meet you with a blank CD/DVD as > > and when your time permits. > > All you need is to burn the CD/DVD. > > > > > > [1] > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/India/LocalContacts > > > > Could not edit that immutable page! > My user name is ManiA > > Add "A. Mani (24644102) : Only 64-bit DVD" in Kolkata > > > Best > > A. Mani > > > -- > A. Mani > Member, Cal. Math. Soc > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 20:04:13 +0530 > From: "susmit shannigrahi" <thinklinux.ssh(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: Only a DVD writer is required!!! Please help... > To: "Mani A" <a.mani.cms(a)gmail.com> > Cc: fedora-india(a)redhat.com > Message-ID: > <ffadd1240805220734y591e241cwde8d28647c2a773d(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > Could not edit that immutable page! > > My user name is ManiA > > > > Add "A. Mani (24644102) : Only 64-bit DVD" in Kolkata > > Thanks for volunteering. > Are not you a member of fedora community? > I mean don't you have an account with fedora accounts system? > If yes, please log in and edit the page. If not, how about being a member? > I can send you the invitation and the required links. > > Thanks. > > -- > Regards, > Susmit. > > ============================================= > ssh > 0x86DD170A > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi > ============================================= > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 20:33:00 +0530 > From: "susmit shannigrahi" <thinklinux.ssh(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: F9, FreeMedia and questions around it > To: "Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay" <foss.mailinglists(a)gmail.com> > Cc: fedora-india(a)redhat.com > Message-ID: > <ffadd1240805220803l13036f99kf886d5fac04c07a8(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > I had a single question around F9 and FreeMedia and the latter > specifically. > > What is a more pressing problem - > > > > Both are doable easily. > > > [1] ensuring that every request gets a media > > This can be done with a much reasonable cost by creating hierarchical > point of contacts. > Say we produce 5000 DVD for a release. > Say Pune gets 500 for the whole release, so may be that shipped to you, > and there are 10 Ambassadors. So may you ask them to pick up required > amount based on demand and other parameters. > > > > > [2] getting the initial media set to those who are participating in the > > FreeMedia program so as to enable them to reach out to the requests > > Easy, the media is available at least 4-5 days before release. So > produce them in small quantity and ship them to the contributors, > using speed post or couriour. So they will receive before release and > can use them as a master copy. That would require max 50 INR for each > shipment (both i386 and x86_64 included). > > > > > > > If, [1] is the need of the day, we would try to get a substantial number > of > > LiveMedia created and shipped to a select few folks based on the trends > of > > FreeMedia requests. Besides getting them to MirrorManagers in India. > > Let both [1] & [2] continue. > We accept a fixed number of free requests, say 50 each month for if > someone really need them. > > Given the option to choose from [1] & [2] I shall choose [2], because, > when someone afford a computer, he/she can afford one or two DVD > without any problem. > > But keeping [1] alive is recommended because if someone is new to > fedora and _suspicious_ about how good is it, but wants to try it > out, he/she generally would be more interested in a FreeMedia rather > than spending for it. > > > > If, [2] is seem to be the bottleneck, then it would be an easier task to > > generate a Everything (x86 and x86_64) and a LiveMedia set created and > sent > > to folks who would agree to be contact points across regions. > > It is _not_ a bottleneck. As my professors say , a distributed system > can not be bottlenecked. :) > > > The constraints in the scenario are: > > > > i] there is only a finite number of LiveMedia that can be created > > ii] postage and courier charges are the ones where most money is spent > > This can be reduced by bulk posting, as I said for example, sending > all the quota of Pune to you, and get that distributed among local > cantacts/Ambassadors. > > > iii] the quantity of LiveMedia done as per [1] has to be consumed before > F10 > > is out > > > > So, what do I push to get done ? > > According to me, a reasonable number, (fixed after discussion, may be > anything between 2000-5000) of media produced for each release. > > > > > -- > Regards, > Susmit. > > ============================================= > ssh > 0x86DD170A > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi > ============================================= > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-india mailing list > Fedora-india(a)redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india > > End of Fedora-india Digest, Vol 9, Issue 14 > ******************************************* >

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The Fedora Community in India - plans and proposals
by sankarshan 21 May '08

21 May '08

Hi, Before I begin the mail, here are some interesting trends: o the maps show that the uptake of rawhide in India is on the increase o there has been an increase in the number of applicants and the number of accepted candidates from India in GSoC particularly in the Fedora and JBoss Project o local language spins seem to be reasonably popular o the current mirrors at NITH and WBUT are straining to serve bits and we need more mirrors like IIT-M to come online o the consumption of Fedora bits via torrents show that an increase in the number of seeds can have an impact o at the last count we have an increasing list of contributors to Fedora o last time I checked we had 61 Ambassadors across the country These trends are a fairly healthy indicator of what we can do by working within the FOSS community in India to encourage and mentor increased contributions to Fedora and upstream projects. The current focus points are around 3 aspects: People | Infrastructure | Presence http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RegionalTeams/India has some details about what we can do together Suggestions, feedback and brickbats are welcome :) ~sankarshan -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work

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