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F19 Final Blocker Bug Review #5 Minutes
by Tim Flink 12 Jun '13

12 Jun '13

================================================= #fedora-blocker-review: f19final-blocker-review-5 ================================================= Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2013-06-12/f19final-… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2013-06-12/f19final-… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2013-06-12/f19final-… Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (tflink, 16:01:04) * LINK: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ahoy-hoy (adamw, 16:07:20) * Introduction (tflink, 16:11:31) * Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and freeze exception bugs. (tflink, 16:11:38) * We'll be following the process outlined at: (tflink, 16:12:01) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting (tflink, 16:12:01) * The bugs up for review today are available at: (tflink, 16:12:06) * LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (tflink, 16:12:07) * The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (tflink, 16:12:14) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Final_Release_Criteria (tflink, 16:12:15) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Beta_Release_Criteria (tflink, 16:12:17) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Alpha_Release_Criteria (tflink, 16:12:21) * Up for review today, we have: (tflink, 16:12:23) * 7 Proposed Blockers (tflink, 16:12:27) * 14 Accepted Blockers (tflink, 16:12:27) * 11 Proposed Freeze Exceptions (tflink, 16:12:27) * 22 Accepted Freeze Exceptions (tflink, 16:12:27) * (972959) Anaconda F19-TC-2 is unable to regain focus of the network configuration box if it loses it (tflink, 16:14:42) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=972959 (tflink, 16:14:45) * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 16:14:48) * AGREED: 972959 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedFreezeException - While unfortunate, this bug doesn't violate any of the F19 release criteria and is thus rejected as a blocker for F19 final. However, a tested fix would be considered past freeze. (tflink, 16:23:28) * (966761) storage configuration failed: Not enough free space on disks for automatic partitioning (tflink, 16:23:37) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=966761 (tflink, 16:23:40) * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 16:23:43) * no significant movement since we last discussed this bug on monday, skipping for today (tflink, 16:26:22) * (973542) gnome-shell-3.8.3 fails to show login screen (tflink, 16:26:32) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=973542 (tflink, 16:26:33) * Proposed Blocker, gnome-shell, MODIFIED (tflink, 16:26:33) * AGREED: 973542 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F19 alpha release criterion: "After firstboot is completed and on subsequent boots, a graphical install must boot to a log in screen where it is possible to log in to a working desktop as the user created during firstboot." (tflink, 16:29:56) * (973068) DBusException: org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.AgentManager.SessionNotFound: Session not found (tflink, 16:30:28) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=973068 (tflink, 16:30:31) * Proposed Blocker, NetworkManager, NEW (tflink, 16:30:34) * AGREED: 973068 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F19 final release criterion: " The installer must be able to complete an installation using all supported interfaces" (tflink, 16:35:37) * (964006) cloud-init hostname service failing on initial boot (tflink, 16:37:03) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=964006 (tflink, 16:37:06) * Proposed Blocker, selinux-policy, ASSIGNED (tflink, 16:37:09) * AGREED: 964006 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F19 final release criterion in the sense that many of the important use cases are effectively blocked: "The release must boot successfully as Xen DomU with releases providing a functional, supported Xen Dom0 and widely used cloud providers utilizing Xen. This does not include any issues limited to the release functioning as Xen Dom0" (tflink, 16:47:17) * (973374) qemu screenshots broken for F19 Beta guests (tflink, 16:47:32) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=973374 (tflink, 16:47:33) * Proposed Blocker, spice, NEW (tflink, 16:47:33) * AGREED: 973374 - RejectedBlocker RejectedFreezeException - While this looks bad, it doesn't keep boxes from functioning and doesn't violate any of the F19 release criteria. The fix sounds invasive and potentially risky with changing libvirt. Since the bug could be fixed with a post-release update on the host, also rejected as a freeze exception for F19 final. (tflink, 16:57:30) * (885151) [BUG] kickstart repo --name cannot have spaces or the repo will not be added (tflink, 16:58:30) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=885151 (tflink, 16:58:33) * Proposed Blocker, yum, NEW (tflink, 16:58:36) * AGREED: 885151 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedFreezeException - While unfortunate, this doesn't violate any of the F19 release criteria. However, there are potential improvements in the handling of repo names in kickstart files and a tested fix would be considered after freeze. (tflink, 17:12:16) * (951879) [en_AU] Australian locale missing from anaconda (tflink, 17:14:43) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=951879 (tflink, 17:14:43) * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, anaconda, ASSIGNED (tflink, 17:14:43) * AGREED: 951879 - RejectedFreezeException - This needs a rather large fix in anaconda and could be fixed post-install by the user. Thus, this bug isn't appropriate for a FE and is rejected as a freeze exception for F19 final. (tflink, 17:18:46) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=972547 (tflink, 17:19:05) * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 17:19:07) * AGREED: 951879 - RejectedFreezeException - Text based installs do work from the netinstall media with the minimum 512M ram and thus, this is rejected as a freeze exception for F19 final. Please re-propose as FE if a fix shows up reasonably soon. (tflink, 17:27:55) * (971191) DVD install option unavailable in TUI (tflink, 17:28:53) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=971191 (tflink, 17:28:53) * Accepted Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 17:28:53) * not much to say here, just accepted two days ago (tflink, 17:29:55) * (964586) Anaconda does not isntall ntfs tools to allow OS-Prober to find windows partition and therefore creates no grub.cfg entry (tflink, 17:30:42) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=964586 (tflink, 17:30:45) * Accepted Blocker, anaconda, ASSIGNED (tflink, 17:30:47) * sounds like progress is being made and a patch was just sent out (tflink, 17:33:56) * (969327) race condition in kickstart partitioning (tflink, 17:34:24) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=969327 (tflink, 17:34:25) * Accepted Blocker, anaconda, ASSIGNED (tflink, 17:34:25) * it sounds like this is related to something in graphical mode as text mode doesn't seem to show the same behavior (tflink, 17:40:58) * will ask for update in bug (tflink, 17:42:52) * (968951) g-i-s created user's accounts and settings are copied to new users created after g-i-s completes but before a reboot (tflink, 17:43:34) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=968951 (tflink, 17:43:37) * Accepted Blocker, gnome-initial-setup, NEW (tflink, 17:43:40) * ACTION: adamw to follow up with the desktop team on the status of this fix (tflink, 17:46:23) * it sounds like there are patches available upstream but they aren't in Fedora yet (tflink, 17:46:39) * (969852) Software Update fails to update (tflink, 17:47:51) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=969852 (tflink, 17:47:51) * Accepted Blocker, gnome-packagekit, ASSIGNED (tflink, 17:47:51) * ACTION: jreznik to follow up with hughsie about this issue (tflink, 17:50:52) * not much info in bug report, not much for us to do at the moment (tflink, 17:51:16) * (958426) 19 Final TC1 x86_64 Desktop Live is oversized (larger than 1 GB) (tflink, 17:51:52) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=958426 (tflink, 17:51:55) * Accepted Blocker, LiveCD, NEW (tflink, 17:51:58) * devs are aware of the issue and are working on it (tflink, 17:52:04) * (969182) DeviceCreateError: ('Could not commit to disk /dev/mapper/mpatha, (py_ped_disk_commit)', 'mpatha3') (tflink, 17:52:23) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=969182 (tflink, 17:52:26) * Accepted Blocker, python-blivet, NEW (tflink, 17:52:28) * patch has been submitted, waiting for new build with fix (tflink, 17:56:03) * (966795) DeviceCreateError: ('lvcreate failed for fedora_sharpie00/swap: running lvm lvcreate -L 6160m -n swap --config devices { filter=["r|/loop3$|","r|/loop4$|","r|/loop5$|","r|/loop6$|","r|/loop7$|"] } fedora_sharpie00 failed', 'fedora_sharpie00-swap') (tflink, 17:57:28) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=966795 (tflink, 17:57:32) * Accepted Blocker, python-blivet, ASSIGNED (tflink, 17:57:34) * still waiting on the fix for this, sounds like it's waiting for another patch set that's part of the fix (tflink, 17:57:48) * (968936) network access is always required for offline update (tflink, 18:01:26) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=968936 (tflink, 18:01:29) * Accepted Blocker, yum, ASSIGNED (tflink, 18:01:31) * still trying to figure out exactly what the problem is here (tflink, 18:04:42) * waiting for more info from devs to figure out what fix is needed (tflink, 18:05:06) * Open Floor (tflink, 18:07:17) Meeting ended at 18:10:54 UTC. Action Items ------------ * adamw to follow up with the desktop team on the status of this fix * jreznik to follow up with hughsie about this issue Action Items, by person ----------------------- * adamw * adamw to follow up with the desktop team on the status of this fix * jreznik * jreznik to follow up with hughsie about this issue * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * tflink (201) * adamw (85) * jreznik (57) * kparal (55) * nirik (12) * zodbot (8) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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FAmNA Meeting (11 Jun 2013)
by Dan Mashal 11 Jun '13

11 Jun '13

====================== #fedora-meeting: FAmNA ====================== Meeting started by dan408 at 01:00:34 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-06-12/famna.2013-06-12… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (dan408, 01:00:50) * Announcements (dan408, 01:04:17) * LINK: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/vote/flock-2013 (dan408, 01:06:58) * LINK: http://flock-lmacken.rhcloud.com/ (dan408, 01:08:31) * tickets (dan408, 01:08:48) * LINK: http://jdulaney.wordpress.com/2013/06/11/south-east-linux-fest-wrapup/ (j_dulaney, 01:12:28) * open floor (dan408, 01:19:00) Meeting ended at 01:20:37 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * dan408 (57) * kk4ewt (12) * zodbot (11) * j_dulaney (10) * nb (0) * rbergeron (0) * dgilmore (0)

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Fedora 20 elections: FAmSCo townhall
by Ankur Sinha 11 Jun '13

11 Jun '13

Hi! Logs from the FAmSCo townhall can be found here: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-townhall/2013-06-11/ HTML logs: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-townhall/2013-06-11/fedora_20_elect… -- Thanks, Warm regards, Ankur (FranciscoD) http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha Join Fedora! Come talk to us! http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Join_SIG

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Fedora 20 elections: FESCo townhall logs
by Ankur Sinha 10 Jun '13

10 Jun '13

Hi everyone, Here are logs from the FESCo town hall: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-townhall/2013-06-10/fesco_townhall.… http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-townhall/2013-06-10/fesco_townhall.… http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-townhall/2013-06-10/fesco_townhall.… -- Thanks, Warm regards, Ankur (FranciscoD) http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha Join Fedora! Come talk to us! http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Join_SIG

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Fedora Docs Meeting Summary
by Pete Travis 10 Jun '13

10 Jun '13

There were some technical issues with zodbot at the beginning, so the logs are incomplete. Roll call, action items (one, completed) and Release Notes (on track) were covered before the bot was resurrected. Here's the minutes from that point forward: Meeting started by randomuser at 14:10:22 UTC (full logs). Meeting summary logs begin a few minutes into the meeting due to technical difficulties with zodbot (randomuser, 14:12:17) Guide Status (randomuser, 14:13:29) Security Guide published for F19 (Sparks, 14:14:27) Outstanding BZ Tickets (randomuser, 14:20:14) http://tinyurl.com/lbrq84 (randomuser, 14:20:21) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=452412 (randomuser, 14:20:59) Open Floor Discussion (randomuser, 14:35:18) Sparks is up for a Board seat, and we like him! (randomuser, 14:38:03) Meeting ended at 14:45:25 UTC (full logs). Action items (none) People present (lines said) randomuser (36) Capesteve (8) Sparks (3) jjmcd (3) pkovar (3) zodbot (2) bcotton (1) nb (1) Generated by MeetBot 0.1.4. Logs are at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-06-10/fedora-meeting.2… -- -- Pete Travis - Fedora Docs Project Leader - 'randomuser' on freenode - immanetize(a)fedoraproject.org

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APAC meeting Summary = Saturday, June 8th, 2013 at 04:00 UTC
by Suresh Packiyarajah 08 Jun '13

08 Jun '13

Hello All, ====================== #fedora-meeting: FAmAPAC ====================== Meeting started by FranciscoD at 04:01:17 2013 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-06-08/apac_meeting_201… http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-06-08/apac_meeting_201… http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-06-08/apac_meeting_201… =============================================== Meeting summary init process (FranciscoD, 04:01:38) http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2013-06-08(FranciscoD, 04:03:37) Announcements (FranciscoD, 04:03:47) https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections (FranciscoD, 04:05:15) https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections#IRC_Town_Halls(FranciscoD, 04:05:36) Fedora 20 election townhalls are coming up (FranciscoD, 04:05:45) http://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/Elections/ -> fedocal link (FranciscoD, 04:05:58) Fedora 19 RC1 is out (FranciscoD, 04:06:23) http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/19-TC1/ (FranciscoD, 04:06:47) Budget meetings are on going in FAmSCo (FranciscoD, 04:10:17) Review action items from last meetings (FranciscoD, 04:13:00) Please update the ticket #70 with your ideas on the subject asap (FranciscoD, 04:18:17) ACTION: KageSenshi to buy everyone light sabers ;) (FranciscoD, 04:18:51) Trac tickets (FranciscoD, 04:21:54) Ticket 80 (FranciscoD, 04:22:24) https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/80 (FranciscoD, 04:22:27) http://www.wfs-india.org/p/poster-competition-womens-and-lgbt-issues(tuanta, 04:25:26) planning for poster competition complete: submission system, publicity, panel, writeup discussed and modified, new website wfs-india.org(FranciscoD, 04:26:33) 4 panelists currently including tatica (FranciscoD, 04:26:46) AGREED: Sponsor amani_glugcal 's event. (FranciscoD, 04:50:16) ACTION: FranciscoD update ticket #80 with approval details (FranciscoD, 04:50:51) https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/84 (FranciscoD, 04:51:00) https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/84 (tuanta, 04:51:13) http://wiki.culturefreedomday.org/2013/India/Kolkata/GLUG-Kolkata(hanthana, 04:52:39) ACTION: amani_glugcal link Fedora India/Fedora project page to http://wiki.culturefreedomday.org/2013/India/Kolkata/GLUG-Kolkata(FranciscoD, 04:53:14) https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MediaArt/F18 (tuanta, 04:58:29) ACTION: tuanta Update agenda to include a "Join Fedora" talk. (FranciscoD, 04:59:51) tuanta hanthana to get media to California visit (FranciscoD, 05:00:43) ACTION: amani_glugcal file ticket to discuss t shirt stickers for next meeting (FranciscoD, 05:04:27) AGREED: sponsor tuanta 's ticket #84 (+6/-0) (FranciscoD, 05:10:13) ACTION: FranciscoD update ticket #84 (FranciscoD, 05:10:25) : https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/86 (nangthang, 05:11:16) open floor (FranciscoD, 05:14:47) https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Niteshnarayan (FranciscoD, 05:18:00) ACTION: suresht send logs to list (FranciscoD, 05:20:15) Meeting ended at 05:20:25 UTC (full logs). Action items KageSenshi to buy everyone light sabers ;) FranciscoD update ticket #80 with approval details amani_glugcal link Fedora India/Fedora project page to http://wiki.culturefreedomday.org/2013/India/Kolkata/GLUG-Kolkata tuanta Update agenda to include a "Join Fedora" talk. amani_glugcal file ticket to discuss t shirt stickers for next meeting FranciscoD update ticket #84 suresht send logs to list Action items, by person amani_glugcal amani_glugcal link Fedora India/Fedora project page to http://wiki.culturefreedomday.org/2013/India/Kolkata/GLUG-Kolkata amani_glugcal file ticket to discuss t shirt stickers for next meeting FranciscoD FranciscoD update ticket #80 with approval details FranciscoD update ticket #84 suresht suresht send logs to list tuanta tuanta Update agenda to include a "Join Fedora" talk. People present (lines said) FranciscoD (215) tuanta (72) amani_glugcal (46) hanthana (35) suresht (21) MarkDude (18) nangthang (17) zodbot (14) dramsey (9) Thanks, Suresh

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Fedora Chinese Meeting Minutes (2013-06-07)
by Alick Zhao 07 Jun '13

07 Jun '13

Hi all, The IRC meeting minutes tonight are available at the link [1]. Thanks everyone for attending the meeting. In the meeting we talked about FUDCon APAC 2014 bid progress, L10N tasks, and so on. Please review the proposed ideas and actions. The next IRC meeting will be held on next Friday (2013-06-14). Please come and join the discussion if you can! [1]: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-zh/2013-06-07/fedora-zh.2013-06-07-… ================== #fedora-zh Meeting ================== Meeting started by tiansworld at 13:01:40 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-zh/2013-06-07/fedora-zh.2013-06-07-… . Meeting summary --------------- * 点名 (alick, 13:02:58) * FUDCON APAC 2014 申办筹备 (alick, 13:08:49) * ACTION: alick to contact KageSenshi (alick, 13:19:24) * LINK: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqqQPlgHkueldEJvd3kzRExLMm94cS… (zsun, 13:22:56) * 中文翻译（包括文档翻译、维基 FAQ 翻译） (alick, 13:30:30) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/%E4%B8%AD%E6%96%87%E6%9C%AC%E5%9C%B0%E5%8C%9… (tiansworld_2nd, 13:33:31) * LINK: https://fedora.transifex.com/projects/p/fedora/language/zh_CN/?project=2060 (endle, 13:46:54) Meeting ended at 14:03:57 UTC. Action Items ------------ * alick to contact KageSenshi Action Items, by person ----------------------- * alick * alick to contact KageSenshi * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * alick (60) * tiansworld_2nd (39) * zsun (33) * endle (16) * zodbot (6) * biergaizi (6) * BadGirl (5) * erhandsome (5) * cicku (5) * tiansworld (3) * chz- (2) * CyrusYzGTt (0) * microcai (0) * hers (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Summary/Minutes from today's Fedora Infrastructure meeting (2013-06-06)
by Kevin Fenzi 06 Jun '13

06 Jun '13

============================================ #fedora-meeting: Infrastructure (2013-06-06) ============================================ Meeting started by nirik at 18:59:59 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-06-06/infrastructure.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * welcome y'all (nirik, 19:00:00) * New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks (nirik, 19:01:38) * Applications status / discussion (nirik, 19:06:22) * geoip service moved to production. (nirik, 19:06:44) * Fedora content dropped from S3 mirrors (mdomsch, 19:07:29) * EPEL remains (mdomsch, 19:07:38) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/15 (nirik, 19:11:19) * Sysadmin status / discussion (nirik, 19:13:31) * lots of ansible work in progress, check the git repo for details (nirik, 19:13:44) * revamped our sign-vault machines this week (not a very visible change, but needed) (nirik, 19:15:01) * our koji data sync has completed it's first 2 passes to netapp... 3rd in progress. (nirik, 19:16:50) * we have an outage scheduled for monday for mass rebooting. (nirik, 19:17:55) * still need to write up/implement new backup plan. (nirik, 19:19:29) * Private Cloud status update / discussion (nirik, 19:20:36) * Upcoming Tasks/Items (nirik, 19:25:22) * LINK: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/list/infrastructure/ (nirik, 19:25:28) * LINK: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/list/infrastructure-outages/ (nirik, 19:28:26) * Flock (nirik, 19:29:37) * LINK: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/flock-2013 (nirik, 19:30:17) * Open Floor (nirik, 19:32:50) Meeting ended at 19:39:03 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * nirik (72) * skvidal (44) * smooge (11) * threebean (7) * mdomsch (7) * zodbot (4) * framew0rk (4) * mtsil (3) * abadger1999 (3) * pingou (2) * bitlord (2) * oddshocks (2) * puiterwijk (1) * lmacken (1) * kc4zvw (1) * pvod (1) * ricky (0) * dgilmore (0) * CodeBlock (0) -- 18:59:59 <nirik> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2013-06-06) 18:59:59 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Jun 6 18:59:59 2013 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:59:59 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 18:59:59 <nirik> #meetingname infrastructure 18:59:59 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure' 19:00:00 <nirik> #topic welcome y'all 19:00:00 <nirik> #chair smooge skvidal CodeBlock ricky nirik abadger1999 lmacken dgilmore mdomsch threebean 19:00:00 <zodbot> Current chairs: CodeBlock abadger1999 dgilmore lmacken mdomsch nirik ricky skvidal smooge threebean 19:00:17 * abadger1999 here 19:00:19 * lmacken 19:00:22 * skvidal is here 19:00:25 <oddshocks> ack 19:00:31 * framew0rk here 19:00:32 <kc4zvw> is here 19:00:50 * pvod here 19:01:03 * pingou here 19:01:07 <smooge> here 19:01:27 <nirik> morning everyone. ;) 19:01:38 <nirik> #topic New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks 19:01:44 * mdomsch 19:01:49 * puiterwijk here 19:01:56 <nirik> any new folks like to introduce themselves? or apprentices witch questions ? 19:02:14 <mtsil> me 19:02:24 * threebean is here a little late 19:02:48 <nirik> welcome mtsil. Can you provide a short bio/background and if you are interested in sysadmin or application devel type things? ;) 19:02:53 * bitlord here (watching) 19:03:44 <mtsil> hi folks, my name is Matheus Silva, I am just another RHCSA guy wanting learn more about the project and sysadmin 19:04:25 <nirik> excellent. Welcome. see me in #fedora-admin after the meeting and I can see about getting you started. 19:04:38 <framew0rk> quick question re: apprentice group 19:04:40 <mtsil> ok, thanks nirik 19:04:46 <nirik> framew0rk: fire away. ;) 19:05:05 <framew0rk> how do i get a public key to ssh in? i am just now getting around to using my membership :) 19:05:25 <nirik> framew0rk: hang on, there's a guide on our wiki... 19:05:39 <bitlord> framew0rk, http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Cryptography#Creating_SSH_Keys 19:05:51 <nirik> yeah, that one. ;) bitlord is faster than I. 19:06:12 <framew0rk> thanks guys :) 19:06:22 <nirik> #topic Applications status / discussion 19:06:29 <nirik> any applications news this week? 19:06:34 <nirik> I have one bit... 19:06:44 <nirik> #info geoip service moved to production. 19:06:54 <nirik> thanks for mdomsch for working on that geoip stuff. ;) 19:07:09 <mdomsch> happy to. Thanks for cleaning up the mess I left it in. 19:07:17 <oddshocks> Badges/Tahrir work is progressing 19:07:29 <mdomsch> #info Fedora content dropped from S3 mirrors 19:07:34 * pingou worked more on fedocal and provided a couple of patches to packages and datagrepper 19:07:38 <mdomsch> #info EPEL remains 19:08:16 <mdomsch> we didn't have enough users of Fedora in EC2 to justify continually pushing Fedora content into each of the S3 regions 19:08:29 * nirik nods. 19:08:49 <nirik> So final freeze is not starting next week, but the week after. Do we have anything we want to get in before final freeze? 19:08:53 <smooge> all the regions or just a couple? 19:09:06 <mdomsch> smooge: all regions 19:09:13 <smooge> ok np 19:09:14 <nirik> As usual I'd like to get things so we drop all the hotfixes we are carrying, but not sure how practical that is. 19:10:10 <threebean> On getting stuff ready before the freeze, having the badges machines ready would be nice -- nirik has already been asking about details for that in #fedora-apps. 19:10:31 <nirik> yeah, I am hoping to have those before too long. 19:10:40 * threebean nods 19:10:52 <nirik> we will need to work through some workflow with ansible and staging, as I would like to make them in ansible instead of puppet if possible 19:10:52 <threebean> not as much of a rush as I'd thought. Sorry for that false alarm. ;) 19:11:02 <threebean> +1 19:11:10 <skvidal> nirik: post-meeting let's talk staging 19:11:19 <nirik> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/15 19:11:22 <skvidal> to see what needs to happen for that happiness 19:11:29 <nirik> (that is the list of current hotfixes) 19:11:30 <threebean> nirik, skvidal: thanks both. 19:11:31 <nirik> skvidal: sounds good. 19:12:31 <nirik> anything else on the application side of things? 19:13:31 <nirik> #topic Sysadmin status / discussion 19:13:44 <nirik> #info lots of ansible work in progress, check the git repo for details 19:13:44 <skvidal> lots of ansible ports this week 19:13:45 <skvidal> lots and lots 19:13:47 <nirik> :) 19:14:03 <skvidal> tested fireball mode 19:14:10 <threebean> skvidal is on fire! 19:14:10 <skvidal> other minor things 19:14:21 <skvidal> mostly just playing with the mirrorlist stuff 19:14:28 <skvidal> which has allowed porting a ton of stuff over 19:14:31 <nirik> skvidal: how far are we from the hook to do playbook runs? we should try and get that before long so more folks can work on converting things. 19:14:50 <skvidal> nirik: I agree 19:15:01 <nirik> #info revamped our sign-vault machines this week (not a very visible change, but needed) 19:15:02 <skvidal> we're going to get a lot of bogon runs when we touch stuff in tasks, of course 19:15:06 <nirik> yeah. 19:15:21 <skvidal> and I was kinda delaying on purpose 19:15:27 <skvidal> b/c I wanted to talk to some people at ansiblefest next week 19:15:44 <skvidal> to see if there are other more graceful solutions that I just haven't read about 19:15:57 <skvidal> is that silly? 19:16:04 <nirik> not at all. completely fair. 19:16:17 <nirik> do you know if any of the ansiblefest stuff will be online? 19:16:38 <skvidal> I dont think so 19:16:42 <skvidal> maybe I'll sneak in a camera 19:16:50 <nirik> #info our koji data sync has completed it's first 2 passes to netapp... 3rd in progress. 19:17:55 <nirik> #info we have an outage scheduled for monday for mass rebooting. 19:18:15 <smooge> wear your google glasses 19:18:51 <skvidal> hah 19:19:07 <nirik> indeed. 19:19:29 <nirik> #info still need to write up/implement new backup plan. 19:19:48 <nirik> any other sysadmin items? 19:20:36 <nirik> #topic Private Cloud status update / discussion 19:20:43 <nirik> not much to report here again I don't think... 19:20:53 <nirik> people are using the cloud and it's working along ok for now. 19:21:02 <skvidal> on the minus side 19:21:17 <skvidal> we've had it explained that all of our assumptions are wrong 19:21:22 <skvidal> and we have to rebuild it eventually 19:21:54 <nirik> yeah, I still want to rebuild 01/03 nodes with the next version and done more like "they" want us to. 19:22:04 <nirik> but thats a good thing for when we are in freeze. ;) 19:22:25 <smooge> oh dear 19:22:30 <skvidal> nirik: +1 19:22:31 <smooge> that sounds like an entire session of flock 19:22:42 <skvidal> smooge: let's put it this way 19:22:56 <skvidal> smooge: there are a lot of...... perspectives that the openstack devels have 19:23:00 <smooge> cloud putting the F in Flock 19:23:02 <skvidal> that are not the most obvious choices 19:23:09 <skvidal> at least from my perspective 19:23:16 <smooge> i don't doubt. 19:23:42 <nirik> yeah. 19:24:01 <skvidal> like 'quotas should work' 19:24:05 <nirik> I think over time they are adding things that everyday sysadmins would want to do, but there's still a lot of weird assumptions, IMHO 19:24:09 <skvidal> or 'failing commands should tell you something about it' 19:24:19 <nirik> or 'you should be able to change your password' 19:24:20 <skvidal> like that they failed, at all 19:24:54 <skvidal> or 'setting quotas in one place should, theoretically, impact the rest of the places using that quota' 19:25:03 <nirik> anyhow, we will continue to push for our uses and hopefully make things better. ;) 19:25:06 <smooge> it is only counted a failure if the command crashed. otherwise the command did execute to the best of its ability and left without a coredump 19:25:06 <skvidal> indeed 19:25:22 <nirik> #topic Upcoming Tasks/Items 19:25:28 <nirik> https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/list/infrastructure/ 19:25:36 * skvidal looks 19:25:37 <nirik> I finally did fill this in more. :) 19:25:51 <skvidal> it's nice 19:25:53 <skvidal> lovely 19:25:58 <nirik> anything anyone would like to note or plan for? 19:26:00 <skvidal> hmm 19:26:06 <skvidal> how come our reboot-a-thon isn't on there? 19:26:20 <nirik> I should add it, also to the outage one. ;) 19:26:31 * skvidal checks if he has the outage one on his list 19:28:18 <nirik> added to both 19:28:26 <nirik> https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/list/infrastructure-outages/ 19:28:30 <nirik> is the outage one 19:29:00 <nirik> we may schedule a outage to move koji storage before final freeze, not sure yet... 19:29:37 <nirik> #topic Flock 19:29:49 <nirik> voting for flock talks is open... everyone should go vote. ;) 19:30:17 <nirik> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/flock-2013 19:30:58 <nirik> Do we want to do any more planning for flock? I'm sure we will gather and discuss various things, but is there specific things we want to try and do/plan? 19:31:15 <nirik> it's still a ways out, but something to think about. 19:32:00 * abadger1999 thinks he'll have too little infra time to do much :-( -- have python sig and fesco stuff to work on 19:32:36 <nirik> yeah, it's always easy to get pulled in several directions. 19:32:50 <nirik> #topic Open Floor 19:33:03 <abadger1999> But if some of that doesn't happen -- there's a lot of discussions to be had around auth in the next year. 19:33:04 <nirik> Anyone have anything for open floor? general comments, questions, observations? 19:33:26 <nirik> abadger1999: yeah, I'd like to talk oauth for sure... try and hash out how best to use it. 19:33:36 <smooge> rebuild devel and staging of flock onto the Clooooud <cloud, cloud, cloud> should be a flock thing 19:35:16 <nirik> all cloud all the time. ;) 19:35:34 <nirik> ok, if nothing else will close out the meeting in a minute or two 19:35:37 <skvidal> though to be fair 19:35:49 <skvidal> I would like to see all of our dev instances diaf 19:35:53 <skvidal> and move to the cloud space 19:36:14 <skvidal> only b/c it feels like they'd be better off there 19:36:22 <mdomsch> If I get some time next week before freeze, I may finish up MM 1.4. No promises, but I can wish... 19:36:27 <nirik> yeah, dev seems like a great fit for cloud... 19:37:05 <smooge> mdomsch wishes cann come true 19:37:06 <nirik> mdomsch: that would be great. 19:37:35 <skvidal> mdomsch: so - not sure if it matters to you - but with the mirrorlist boxes split out 19:37:52 <skvidal> mdomsch: testing out a box should involve less 'where is all this crap' than it does now 19:37:58 <skvidal> or 'is this other app molesting mm' 19:39:03 <nirik> ok, thanks for coming everyone. Do continue in #fedora-admin, #fedora-apps and #fedora-noc. 19:39:03 <nirik> #endmeeting

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Fedora Ambassadors meeting minutes 2013-06-05
by Jiri Eischmann 05 Jun '13

05 Jun '13

Hi, we had another regular EMEA ambassadors meeting today. The meeting lasted for 1 hour and 50 minutes and 14 ambassadors participated. If you want to know more, please read the minutes: Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-06-05/emea_ambassadors… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-06-05/emea_ambassadors… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-06-05/emea_ambassadors… The next meeting will be on June 19th. Meet you in 2 weeks! Jiri

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Fedora ARM Weekly Status Meeting Minutes 2013-06-05
by Paul Whalen 05 Jun '13

05 Jun '13

Thanks to those that were able to join for the status meeting today, for those unable the minutes are posted below: Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-06-05/fedora-meeting… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-06-05/fedora-meeting… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-06-05/fedora-meeting… =================================================== #fedora-meeting-1: Fedora ARM weekly status meeting =================================================== Meeting summary --------------- * 0) Status of ACTION items from our previous meeting (pwhalen, 20:02:14) * LINK: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-05-29/fedora-meeting… (pwhalen, 20:02:14) * pwhalen to look into LVM console spam on first boot, The initial-setup does not appear to run (pwhalen, 20:02:33) * BZ#970719 (pwhalen, 20:02:39) * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/Quality_Assurance/Kernel_Te… (pwhalen, 20:05:54) * 1) Problem packages (pwhalen, 20:06:33) * Eclipse has a dep issue, pbrobinson investigating (bconoboy, 20:07:26) * Systemtap not building in F20 (bconoboy, 20:08:41) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=969656 (pwhalen, 20:08:44) * 2) Kernel Status Update (pwhalen, 20:11:36) * LINK: http://arm.koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=147188 (pwhalen, 20:14:21) * 3a) Aarch64 Status Update, problem packages (pwhalen, 20:15:22) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/AArch64/Stage4_Problem_Pac… (pwhalen, 20:16:15) * We're about 75% done- 10306 packages built out of 13481 total (pwhalen, 20:16:47) * gcc (gcj), qt biggest blockers. rebuilding now. gcc done soon. (bconoboy, 20:19:29) * Updated instructions at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/AArch64/QuickStart (bconoboy, 20:20:41) * 3b) Aarch64 - are we ready for Koji? (pwhalen, 20:22:12) * AGREED: We will begin investigating moving to koji to manage aarch64 builds (bconoboy, 20:35:03) * 4a) F19 GA - TC1 testing results, remaining blockers (pwhalen, 20:36:11) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Fedora_19_ARM_TC1 (pwhalen, 20:36:11) * F19 ARM Blocker (pwhalen, 20:37:14) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=901850 (pwhalen, 20:37:14) * f19 ga issues are: (bconoboy, 20:53:55) * 1. initial setup failing to build (bconoboy, 20:54:01) * 2, vfat image creation not correct in appliance-tools (bconoboy, 20:54:18) * 3, a-b-c not running on initial install (bconoboy, 20:54:30) * 4, extlinux.conf not being generated (bconoboy, 20:54:45) * 5, vexpress X not yet fixed (bconoboy, 20:54:58) * 6, no vexpress uboot/boot script (bconoboy, 20:56:00) * 5) Open Floor (pwhalen, 21:04:32) * remember to vote for ARM FLOCK sessions (pwhalen, 21:05:24) * LINK: Vote ARM: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/vote/flock-2013 (bconoboy, 21:05:30) * Please download the latest Fedora 19 ARM TC1 and test! (pwhalen, 21:06:52) * LINK: http://armpkgs.fedoraproject.org/mash/stage/19-TC1/Images/armhfp/ (pwhalen, 21:06:59) Meeting ended at 21:07:36 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * bconoboy (77) * pwhalen (66) * dgilmore (55) * j_dulaney (33) * zodbot (12) * ctyler (11) * masta (5) * mjg59 (5) * fossjon (4) * jsmith (4) * jcapik (3) * oatley (3) * jonmasters (3) * dmarlin (2) * ahs3 (2) * msalter (1) * pbrobinson (0) * agreene (0) * ddd (0)

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