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Atomic/Fedora Infra Meeting Minutes (2014-09-30)
by Joe Brockmeier 02 Oct '14

02 Oct '14

============================== #atomic: Atomic/Infrastructure ============================== Meeting started by stickster at 18:14:43 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/atomic/2014-09-30/atomic.2014-09-30-18.14.… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll call! (stickster, 18:15:00) * ostree/update status (stickster, 18:15:53) * http://ur1.ca/i9r40 (jzb, 18:24:36) * LINK: https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/mirrormanager/tree/server/mirrormanager/r… (dgilmore, 18:29:46) * ACTION: oddshocks add some info to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Cloud/Atomic_Runbooks (oddshocks, 18:31:50) * walters has been working on centralizing compose scripts in https://github.com/projectatomic/rpm-ostree-toolbox (jzb, 18:41:15) * LINK: http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/CommunityBuildSystem (jzb, 18:42:49) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/6004 (jzb, 18:57:03) * ACTION: dgilmore to bring lmacken into discussion about Atomic/Bodhi/updates. (jzb, 19:02:22) Meeting ended at 19:09:30 UTC. Action Items ------------ * oddshocks add some info to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Cloud/Atomic_Runbooks * dgilmore to bring lmacken into discussion about Atomic/Bodhi/updates. Action Items, by person ----------------------- * dgilmore * dgilmore to bring lmacken into discussion about Atomic/Bodhi/updates. * oddshocks * oddshocks add some info to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Cloud/Atomic_Runbooks * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * dgilmore (49) * jzb (47) * oddshocks (25) * walters (21) * stickster (19) * imcleod (8) * zodbot (8) * centbot (7) * jbrooks (7) * nirik (5) * dustymabe (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud & Storage Analyst jzb(a)redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/

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Summary/Minutes from today's Fedora Infrastructure meeting (2014-10-02)
by Kevin Fenzi 02 Oct '14

02 Oct '14

============================================ #fedora-meeting: Infrastructure (2014-10-02) ============================================ Meeting started by nirik at 18:00:00 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-10-02/infrastructure.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * aloha (nirik, 18:00:01) * New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks. (nirik, 18:02:01) * Applications status / discussion (nirik, 18:03:38) * LINK: https://github.com/fedora-infra/pkgdb2/blob/master/utility/pkgdb2.spec#L114 (pingou, 18:04:12) * pkgdb2 update in prod today, another minor one tomorrow. (nirik, 18:07:18) * anitya almost ready for production. needs dns to finish getting setup. (nirik, 18:07:52) * taskotron almost ready for production. (nirik, 18:08:03) * hyperkitty is working on sqlalchemy changes. Will deploy after those land. (nirik, 18:15:47) * bodhi2 is in jenkins now and running tests on commits (nirik, 18:16:19) * ACTION: pingou to coordinate with tyll on cnucnu bugzilla filing under the new anitya setup. (nirik, 18:24:40) * fedora mobile getting setup to be updated from the google play alpha track. (nirik, 18:25:05) * Sysadmin status / discussion (nirik, 18:26:27) * mass reboot earlier this week. Most things are rebooted/updated (nirik, 18:26:59) * kernel01/02 now have a bunch more memory. Thanks smooge for getting that installed. (nirik, 18:30:15) * db04 (rhel6) migrated to db-koji01 (rhel7) (nirik, 18:30:33) * 0 guests left at telia01 (nirik, 18:30:43) * 78 hosts left in puppet (nirik, 18:33:28) * nagios/alerts recap (nirik, 18:33:44) * Upcoming Tasks/Items (nirik, 18:40:02) * LINK: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/list/infrastructure/ (nirik, 18:40:03) * Open Floor (nirik, 18:41:58) Meeting ended at 18:47:43 UTC. Action Items ------------ * pingou to coordinate with tyll on cnucnu bugzilla filing under the new anitya setup. Action Items, by person ----------------------- * pingou * pingou to coordinate with tyll on cnucnu bugzilla filing under the new anitya setup. * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * nirik (109) * pingou (36) * relrod (15) * smooge (11) * abompard (6) * lmacken (6) * oddshocks (6) * tflink (6) * zodbot (5) * threebean (2) * RogerBTX (1) * Neldogz (1) * danielbruno (1) * lanica (1) * mpduty (1) * dgilmore (1) * puiterwijk (0) * abadger1999 (0) * mdomsch (0) -- 18:00:00 <nirik> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2014-10-02) 18:00:00 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Oct 2 18:00:00 2014 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:00:00 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 18:00:01 <nirik> #meetingname infrastructure 18:00:01 <nirik> #topic aloha 18:00:01 <nirik> #chair smooge relrod nirik abadger1999 lmacken dgilmore mdomsch threebean pingou puiterwijk 18:00:01 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure' 18:00:01 <zodbot> Current chairs: abadger1999 dgilmore lmacken mdomsch nirik pingou puiterwijk relrod smooge threebean 18:00:14 * threebean is here 18:00:14 * pingou 18:00:18 * tflink is here 18:00:19 * relrod here 18:00:26 * lmacken 18:00:28 * danielbruno is here 18:00:46 * oddshocks here 18:01:22 * RogerBTX present @ laundromat 18:01:33 * mpduty is here 18:01:58 <Neldogz> neldogz is here 18:02:01 <nirik> #topic New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks. 18:02:13 <nirik> any new folks like to introduce themselves today? 18:02:20 <nirik> or apprentices with questions, comments or ideas? 18:03:24 <nirik> ok. ;) moving along then... 18:03:38 <nirik> #topic Applications status / discussion 18:03:45 <nirik> any application news this week? :) 18:03:52 <pingou> new pkgdb in prod today 18:04:04 <nirik> nice. any list of changes? 18:04:11 <smooge> mgoodmday 18:04:12 <pingou> https://github.com/fedora-infra/pkgdb2/blob/master/utility/pkgdb2.spec#L114 18:04:23 * nirik wonders if we shouldn't try and mail at least infra list on updates? just a short 'pkgdb2 updated, here's changes' 18:04:41 <pingou> I added the update_package_info script that was written a while ago 18:05:01 <pingou> whose goal is to update the package's info (summary and description) from yum's info (thus the rpm) 18:05:20 <pingou> also, now the user orphaning a package will loose his/her commit and approveacl ACL 18:05:34 <nirik> ok. I guess if they need it back they can unorphan. ;) 18:05:40 <pingou> yes :) 18:05:48 <pingou> the rest is mostly cosmetic changes in the UI 18:06:07 <pingou> there will be another release tomorrow to fix something in the emails pkgdb send when it has a problem 18:06:16 <pingou> and I have a new fedocal release coming after that 18:06:23 <nirik> busy busy. ;) 18:06:32 <pingou> (w/ for example the possibility to send a reminder to multiple email addresses) 18:06:40 <tflink> taskotron production is making progress 18:06:52 <pingou> and anitya is ready in prod, just waiting for the DNS to sync in: http://140.211.169.229/ 18:07:06 <pingou> but I'll call for tester before calling it 1.0 :) 18:07:13 <tflink> waiting on two bits of code, learning the hard way about bits that need to be monitored after restart etc. 18:07:18 <nirik> #info pkgdb2 update in prod today, another minor one tomorrow. 18:07:45 * dgilmore is kinda here but really not 18:07:52 <nirik> #info anitya almost ready for production. needs dns to finish getting setup. 18:08:03 <nirik> #info taskotron almost ready for production. 18:08:28 <nirik> tflink: aside from those issues everything looking ok from a infra standpoint for you? I know we need monitoring still. 18:08:54 <tflink> looking into some vpn issues ATM 18:09:04 * pingou needs to add a nagios check for anitya 18:09:10 <tflink> monitoring, backup (ticket hasn't been filed yet) 18:09:28 <nirik> ah yeah I am already backing up the db... 18:09:34 <nirik> but there's possibly more. 18:09:51 <tflink> there are some files on taskotron01.qa that will need to be backed up 18:10:00 <nirik> ok. 18:10:07 * lanica is here for the infra meeting (sorry I'm late!) 18:10:14 <nirik> welcome lanica 18:10:57 <nirik> ok, anything else pending on the applications side? 18:11:29 <threebean> eh, I've been doing lots of monitoring stuff this week and will be pushing out some other changes for anitya later. 18:11:41 <nirik> cool. 18:12:18 <oddshocks> general improvements to fedimg and ostree/atomic stuff. nothing outstanding. 18:12:23 <oddshocks> making progress 18:12:37 <pingou> cool 18:12:46 <nirik> abompard: whats the current word on hyperkitty (if you happen to be around). I'd be fine moving some lists if there's nothing we are waiting on. 18:12:52 <nirik> oddshocks: cool. 18:13:19 <abompard> nirik: actually there's currently lots going on around Mailman's SQLAlchemy port 18:13:26 <abompard> it may be happenning soon 18:13:42 <lmacken> I got bodhi2 test suite back up and running on jenkins this week. Lots of masher hacking as well, but that hasn't hit infra yet. http://jenkins.cloud.fedoraproject.org/job/bodhi/ 18:13:54 <abompard> so I'm focusing on that, the windows of availability for barry to review code are small 18:13:56 <nirik> abompard: nice. :) do we want to wait for that? 18:14:15 <abompard> nirik: yes, if it happens as soon as I think it can 18:14:25 <nirik> lmacken: nice. 18:14:25 <oddshocks> abompard: as in warsaw? 18:14:30 <abompard> oddshocks: yep 18:14:33 <oddshocks> abompard: niceee 18:14:48 <nirik> lmacken: no weird disappearances on jenkins lately? did we ever figure out what was happening with that? 18:15:03 <pingou> abompard: champagne \ó/ 18:15:14 <abompard> pingou: hell yeah 18:15:33 <nirik> cool. 18:15:38 <lmacken> nirik: as far as plugins disappearing, I think the ansible playbook overwrites them all, and we don't have the fedmsg plugin in git 18:15:47 <nirik> #info hyperkitty is working on sqlalchemy changes. Will deploy after those land. 18:15:54 <nirik> lmacken: ah, that would do it. 18:15:56 <lmacken> as for projects disappearing, I have no idea how that happened to begin with, but it has yet to happen again 18:16:19 <nirik> #info bodhi2 is in jenkins now and running tests on commits 18:16:21 <oddshocks> jenkins is just trying to get out of work. slacker. 18:16:22 <pingou> yeah the plugins need to be installed via the ansible playbook 18:16:52 <pingou> not via jenkins' UI (or done in both place, the playbook in addition to the UI) 18:17:30 <nirik> ok. I think relrod setup the fedmsg plugin there? relrod and pingou: can you see if you can get that in ansible (if it's not) 18:17:56 <relrod> yeah, we need to ansibleize it 18:18:03 <nirik> cool 18:18:09 <pingou> relrod: there is also a problem with the yum repo that was added 18:18:11 <pingou> (the copr one) 18:18:33 <relrod> pingou: yeah, I know. Jenkins can't talk to copr for some reason. Short term solution is put the RPM from that copr in the infra repo 18:18:36 <nirik> yeah, we talked about that... 18:18:37 <relrod> I just need to actually do it 18:18:44 * nirik nods. 18:18:49 <pingou> relrod: ok cool 18:19:16 <nirik> ok, anything else on the applications side? 18:19:43 <nirik> pingou: oh, side question: does anitya file bugzilla bugs on things? or was that a different layer of our old cnucnu thing? 18:19:44 <relrod> one fedora mobile related thing I guess: 18:20:01 <pingou> nirik: it'll be a different layer 18:20:23 <nirik> pingou: ok, was that something tyll was running? does he know to update? or is that something we want to run? 18:20:30 <relrod> I am working on a system for pushing out nightly updates to it via the Google Play alpha track. This means we can lose the ugly self-updating code that is in Mobile right now. 18:20:49 <nirik> relrod: cool. 18:20:51 <relrod> We were going to do this via Jenkins (https://github.com/fedora-infra/mobile/issues/41) but ran into some issues 18:21:02 <pingou> nirik: we'll probably want a fedmsg-cnucnu as we have fedmsg-fasclient 18:21:09 <relrod> so it's probably going to be a separate process that just pulls the latest APK from Jenkins and sends it to Google 18:21:12 <relrod> which is fine 18:21:20 <pingou> nirik: I'll coordinate w/ tyll 18:21:49 <nirik> relrod: ok 18:21:53 <nirik> pingou: sounds good 18:22:02 <relrod> (the issue is basically "the APK has to be signed, and we don't really want the signing key for it on Jenkins") 18:22:52 <nirik> relrod: hum, ok... where would that live then/ 18:22:53 <nirik> ? 18:23:36 <nirik> or TBD? 18:23:40 <relrod> nirik: Probably ansible private repo, and the nightly pusher can be a cloud node or something? Doesn't need to be very powerful 18:23:47 <nirik> ok 18:24:23 <relrod> If we don't want it in the ansible private repo, open to better suggestions 18:24:40 <nirik> #action pingou to coordinate with tyll on cnucnu bugzilla filing under the new anitya setup. 18:24:47 <nirik> I think that would be ok 18:25:05 <nirik> #info fedora mobile getting setup to be updated from the google play alpha track. 18:25:11 <relrod> I'm not sure if the alpha signing key can be different than the production track signing key (if anyone has Android experience and knows, poke me? :)) 18:25:27 <nirik> no idea off hand. 18:25:39 * nirik waits for the ffos html 5 version. ;) 18:25:48 <relrod> :P 18:25:56 <relrod> anyway, that's all I have. 18:26:00 <nirik> cool. thanks. 18:26:12 <nirik> anything else application wise? or shall I move on? 18:26:27 <nirik> #topic Sysadmin status / discussion 18:26:35 <nirik> so, we did a mass reboot earlier this week. 18:26:47 <nirik> there's a few stragglers we still need to do, but mostly everything is done. 18:26:59 <nirik> #info mass reboot earlier this week. Most things are rebooted/updated 18:27:18 <nirik> I migrated db04 (rhel6) to db-koji01 (rhel7) 18:27:47 <nirik> I killed db04 and keys01. We now have 0 guests at telia01 18:28:04 <smooge> <<plays taps>> 18:28:10 <pingou> I need to check what specific settings we are putting on the postgresql.conf file we install with the postgresql_server role, as this seems to be closely related to the memory of the host 18:28:20 <nirik> I'm also going to retire mirrorlist-serverbeach, because it keeps having problems keeping up. 18:28:26 <pingou> by telia01 18:28:31 <pingou> bye* 18:28:45 <nirik> pingou: yeah, I think we should be more dynamic on it. 18:29:03 <nirik> pingou: also, I think we just copied our old postgresql.conf in... we should get the rhel7 one and adjust it. 18:29:09 <pingou> make it a template and use host_vars or so 18:29:12 <nirik> because we might be missing other things the 7 one can do better 18:29:18 <pingou> also true 18:29:27 <nirik> if you want to work on that that would be great. ;) 18:29:33 <pingou> anitya-backend should have the default el7 one 18:29:41 <pingou> I can at least provide a diff :) 18:29:59 <nirik> ok 18:30:15 <nirik> #info kernel01/02 now have a bunch more memory. Thanks smooge for getting that installed. 18:30:33 <nirik> #info db04 (rhel6) migrated to db-koji01 (rhel7) 18:30:39 <smooge> well thanks jesse. all I did was watch from afar :) 18:30:43 <nirik> #info 0 guests left at telia01 18:30:58 <pingou> nirik: how many guests left in puppet? 18:31:35 <nirik> 78 18:31:45 <pingou> k 18:31:48 <nirik> I'm going to try and move some more next week... 18:32:06 <nirik> a number are virthosts, so we will have to move all the guests, update, move back 18:32:23 <pingou> that'll be fun 18:32:34 <nirik> and of course we still have proxies to convert. thats 8 there 18:33:03 <nirik> but I am going to try and get there before the end of the year if we can. 18:33:28 <nirik> #info 78 hosts left in puppet 18:33:44 <nirik> #topic nagios/alerts recap 18:33:56 * nirik digs up url. where's puiterwijk with it handy when you need him. ;) 18:35:21 <nirik> .tiny https://admin.fedoraproject.org/nagios/cgi-bin//summary.cgi?report=1&displa… 18:35:23 <zodbot> nirik: http://tinyurl.com/pcpaya7 18:35:39 <nirik> download01.mgmt was fixed, was a IMM going wonky 18:36:08 <nirik> the datagrepper I think was the datagrepper db migration that threebean did 18:36:27 <nirik> the collab03 mail queue is due to the way that check is written. We should fix it. 18:36:47 <nirik> it looks for anything mroe than 3 or 4 emails in queue, but thats our list server, so sometimes it has a bunch in there it's sending out. 18:36:57 <smooge> I rebuilt bvirthost10 on the UCS cisco. much swearing and pain 18:37:02 <smooge> oops sorry 18:37:05 <nirik> thanks for that smooge 18:37:26 <nirik> mirrorlist-serverbeach is going away, so that should disappear. 18:38:01 <smooge> <<taps on lone bugle>> 18:38:15 <nirik> not sure about the bodhi02 ones... lmacken: any errors you have seen from it lately? 18:38:26 <nirik> might have been the koji outage for the database move? 18:39:29 <nirik> anything else sysadminy? 18:40:02 <nirik> #topic Upcoming Tasks/Items 18:40:03 <nirik> https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/list/infrastructure/ 18:40:11 <nirik> anything upcoming anyone would like to note or schedule? 18:40:33 <nirik> I'll note we go into Beta freeze 2014-10-14 18:40:45 <nirik> so do try and get anything done before then thats big/disruptive. 18:41:05 <pingou> 2 weeks from now 18:41:08 <nirik> yep. 18:41:09 <pingou> that'll be there soon 18:41:23 <nirik> I'm going to try and get some more rhel7/ansible migrations done, but we will see 18:41:42 <nirik> might do an outage and move db01 over. 18:41:47 <nirik> will have to look. 18:41:58 <nirik> #topic Open Floor 18:42:15 <nirik> anyone have items for open floor? ideas, comments, cookie recipes? 18:42:17 <smooge> I have two cloud servers to rebuild today. 18:42:31 <smooge> and I will be out tomorrow after the EPEL meeting 18:42:55 <nirik> smooge: cool. Let me know when 09 is done and I can play with running the setup on it. 18:43:31 <smooge> will do so 18:43:47 <smooge> next week I will be focusing on I2 and budgets 18:43:48 <nirik> If we can get that all working soon we can look at cloud migrating. ;) 18:43:56 <smooge> or cloud 18:44:09 <lmacken> nirik: no I haven't seen any errors from bodhi02 aside from the koji outage. 18:44:31 <nirik> I think thats mostly just a matter of telling everyone: you have until xxxx-xx-xx to terminate your instance(s) and bring them up in the new cloud. 18:44:43 <nirik> and us doing that on the persistent ones we care about. 18:44:54 <nirik> oh, we still need to get storage working tho. 18:44:58 <nirik> lmacken: ok 18:45:09 <nirik> lmacken: just odd that bodhi02 was in the nagios alerts, but not 01... 18:45:32 <lmacken> nirik: weird, I'll take a look 18:46:11 <nirik> thanks. 18:46:18 <nirik> ok, if nothing else, will close out in a minute or so... 18:47:41 <nirik> Thanks for coming everyone! Lets all continue in #fedora-admin, #fedora-apps and #fedora-noc. 18:47:43 <nirik> #endmeeting

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Summary/Minutes from today's FPC Meeting (2014-10-02 16:00 - 17:35 UTC)
by James Antill 02 Oct '14

02 Oct '14

====================== #fedora-meeting-1: fpc ====================== Meeting started by geppetto at 16:00:21 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2014-10-02/fpc.2014-10-02… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (geppetto, 16:00:21) * #456 Packaging:Guidelines#Configuration_of_Package_Managers does not mention fedora-repos or epel-release (geppetto, 16:18:03) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/456 (geppetto, 16:18:07) * ACTION: Rel-eng Package rename, trivial: #456 Packaging:Guidelines#Configuration_of_Package_Managers does not mention fedora-repos or epel-release (geppetto, 16:19:58) * #457 Wiki page about 'Starting services by default' is not linked (geppetto, 16:21:48) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/457 (geppetto, 16:21:53) * ACTION: Close ticket, old unused page: #topic #457 Wiki page about 'Starting services by default' is not linked (geppetto, 16:38:14) * #458 Man page scriplets (geppetto, 16:39:28) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/458 (geppetto, 16:39:29) * ACTION: Tibbs to write changes for policy: #458 Man page scriplets (geppetto, 16:49:17) * #453 Changes/SystemdSysusers updates for Packaging:UsersAndGroups (geppetto, 16:49:31) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/453 (geppetto, 16:49:38) * ACTION: #453 Small number of packages to test new sysusers user creation code (+1:5, 0:1, -1:0) (geppetto, 16:51:54) * #452 Crypto policies packaging guideline (geppetto, 16:52:21) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/452 (geppetto, 16:52:30) * ACTION: Need different policy that's easier to comply to or just advice, all reviewers/packagers aren't C programers and there are a lot of openssl using packages. (geppetto, 17:23:14) * Open Floor (geppetto, 17:24:52) Meeting ended at 17:35:40 UTC. Action Items ------------ * Rel-eng Package rename, trivial: #456 Packaging:Guidelines#Configuration_of_Package_Managers does not mention fedora-repos or epel-release * Close ticket, old unused page: #topic #457 Wiki page about 'Starting services by default' is not linked * Tibbs to write changes for policy: #458 Man page scriplets * #453 Small number of packages to test new sysusers user creation code (+1:5, 0:1, -1:0) * Need different policy that's easier to comply to or just advice, all reviewers/packagers aren't C programers and there are a lot of openssl using packages. Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * Rel-eng Package rename, trivial: #456 Packaging:Guidelines#Configuration_of_Package_Managers does not mention fedora-repos or epel-release * Close ticket, old unused page: #topic #457 Wiki page about 'Starting services by default' is not linked * Tibbs to write changes for policy: #458 Man page scriplets * #453 Small number of packages to test new sysusers user creation code (+1:5, 0:1, -1:0) * Need different policy that's easier to comply to or just advice, all reviewers/packagers aren't C programers and there are a lot of openssl using packages. People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * geppetto (113) * tibbs|w (38) * Rathann (27) * limburgher (23) * racor (7) * zodbot (7) * nirik (5) * orionp (3) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Summary/Minutes from today's irc support sig meeting (2014-10-02)
by Kevin Fenzi 02 Oct '14

02 Oct '14

============================================= #fedora-meeting: IRC Support SIG (2014-10-02) ============================================= Meeting started by nirik at 17:00:07 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-10-02/irc-support-sig.… . Meeting summary --------------- * init process (nirik, 17:00:07) * Week(s) in review (nirik, 17:04:39) * ticket 171 (nirik, 17:08:41) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/171 (nirik, 17:08:47) * Open Floor (nirik, 17:08:59) Meeting ended at 17:15:54 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * nirik (27) * kc8hfi (6) * zodbot (3) * Sonar_Guy (2) * EvilBob (2) * vwbusguy (2) * RogerBTX (1) * mozzarella (1) -- 17:00:07 <nirik> #startmeeting IRC Support SIG (2014-10-02) 17:00:07 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Oct 2 17:00:07 2014 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:00:07 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 17:00:07 <nirik> #meetingname irc-support-sig 17:00:07 <nirik> #topic init process 17:00:07 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'irc-support-sig' 17:00:41 <nirik> anyone around for an irc support sig meeting/ 17:00:45 * Sonar_Guy 17:01:08 <mozzarella> what is "sig"? 17:01:39 <nirik> special interest group 17:01:47 <nirik> basically a group of folks working on a specific area 17:02:39 * RogerBTX present 17:04:20 * kc8hfi . 17:04:34 <nirik> ok, a few folks around. :) 17:04:39 <nirik> #topic Week(s) in review 17:04:55 <nirik> anyone have anything to point out from recent weeks? common bugs or issues that are coming up? 17:05:10 <Sonar_Guy> not I! 17:05:39 <nirik> seems like a fair number of f21 people poping up. 17:05:49 <nirik> as usual, we should point them to #fedora-qa until after beta. 17:06:17 <EvilBob> Sorry I'm late 17:06:22 <kc8hfi> sometimes it would be nice if the live images disabled plymouth by default 17:06:32 <nirik> hey EvilBob 17:06:51 * kc8hfi thinks its plymouth, whatever nomodeset does 17:07:01 <nirik> kc8hfi: beyond the scope of support. ;) File a bug? 17:07:38 <kc8hfi> nirik: sounds good 17:08:28 <nirik> I thought we had no tickets, but I guess there is one... 17:08:41 <nirik> #topic ticket 171 17:08:47 <nirik> https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/171 17:08:49 <nirik> kudos to me. 17:08:52 * nirik bows 17:08:59 <nirik> #topic Open Floor 17:09:15 <nirik> anyone have general discussion items? things to bring up or suggest/ 17:09:31 * vwbusguy stumbles in 17:09:33 <nirik> Meetings are pretty short these days... perhaps monthly would make sense now? 17:09:37 <nirik> hey vwbusguy 17:09:41 <vwbusguy> howdy 17:10:12 <kc8hfi> we can start being rude to tick people to generate more tickets to make the meetings longer? 17:10:30 * kc8hfi suggests not doing that 17:11:04 <nirik> yeah, I'm kinda liking the quiet lately. ;) 17:11:45 <EvilBob> Sorry I have not been around much to keep all y'all on your toes 17:12:57 <nirik> :) 17:14:11 <nirik> anyhow, if nothing else I guess we will close out... 17:15:52 <nirik> ok, thanks for coming everyone. ;) Enjoy 17:15:54 <nirik> #endmeeting

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EMEA ambassadors meeting minutes 2014-10-01
by Jiri Eischmann 01 Oct '14

01 Oct '14

Hi, we had a regular EMEA regional meeting tonight. 17 ambassadors attended and it lasted 1 hour and 24 minutes. You can find more in the minutes: Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-10-01/emea_ambassadors… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-10-01/emea_ambassadors… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-10-01/emea_ambassadors… The next meeting will be on Oct 15th. Jiri

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Re: 2014-10-01 @ 16:00 UTC ** Fedora Blocker Review Meeting Minutes
by Mike Ruckman 01 Oct '14

01 Oct '14

========================================== #fedora-blocker-review: F21-blocker-review ========================================== Meeting started by roshi at 15:58:52 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2014-10-01/f21-block… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (roshi, 15:58:53) * Introduction (roshi, 16:03:54) * Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs. (roshi, 16:03:54) * We'll be following the process outlined at: (roshi, 16:03:58) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting (roshi, 16:04:01) * The bugs up for review today are available at: (roshi, 16:04:03) * LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (roshi, 16:04:06) * The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (roshi, 16:04:08) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_Alpha_Release_Criteria (roshi, 16:04:11) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_Beta_Release_Criteria (roshi, 16:04:14) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_Final_Release_Criteria (roshi, 16:04:17) * (1074358) all initramfs in existing /boot are updated and broken on install (roshi, 16:05:45) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1074358 (roshi, 16:05:49) * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (roshi, 16:05:51) * AGREED: - RejectedBlocker - 1074358 - This bug doesn't directly violate any criteria and nothing indicates having a shared /boot is desired functionality. (roshi, 16:22:03) * (1114786) DeviceError: ('cannot replace active format', 'sda6') (roshi, 16:22:32) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1114786 (roshi, 16:22:35) * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (roshi, 16:22:38) * AGREED: - RejectedBlocker - 1114786 - Couldn't reproduce this bug. Utilizing noswap is an easy workaround for this if it's run into. Document on Common Bugs. Please repropose for final if it can be shown to have a wider impact. (roshi, 16:47:33) * (1098735) apper: hawkey backend missing features (roshi, 16:47:56) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1098735 (roshi, 16:47:56) * Proposed Blocker, apper, NEW (roshi, 16:47:56) * AGREED: - 1098735 - RejectedBlocker - This doesn't clearly violate any *beta* criteria, but may be considered a blocker for final. (roshi, 17:04:22) * (1147998) Cloud image does not permit successful reboot (roshi, 17:04:45) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1147998 (roshi, 17:04:45) * Proposed Blocker, cloud-utils, NEW (roshi, 17:04:45) * AGREED: - 1147998 - AcceptedBlocker - This bug violates the "Shutdown, Reboot, Logout" Beta criteria. (roshi, 17:11:00) * (1142512) 21 Alpha KDE lives and ARM disk image over size limit (roshi, 17:12:22) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1142512 (roshi, 17:12:25) * Proposed Blocker, distribution, NEW (roshi, 17:12:27) * AGREED: - 1142512 - Punt - The desired size limit is currently up for discussion. If the limit isn't upped this is a clear blocker, if it is we increased we can revisit next week. (roshi, 17:25:33) * (1038413) fedup stage2 keymap will always be US again for F20-F21 due to anaconda not writing vconsole.keymap kernel parameter any more (#1035316) (roshi, 17:25:49) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1038413 (roshi, 17:25:52) * Proposed Blocker, fedup, NEW (roshi, 17:25:55) * (1146140) boot fail during upgrade from f20 to f21 on udev (roshi, 18:04:52) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1146140 (roshi, 18:04:52) * Proposed Blocker, fedup-dracut, NEW (roshi, 18:04:52) * AGREED: - 1146140 - Dupe - Close as a duplicate of 1099299. (roshi, 18:13:47) Meeting ended at 18:20:00 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * roshi (185) * adamw (130) * danofsatx (29) * pwhalen (27) * tflink (24) * sgallagh (8) * zodbot (8) * Kevin_Kofler (8) * jreznik (8) * oddshocks (2) * danofsatx-work (1) * nirik (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot -- // Mike -- Fedora QA freenode: roshi http://roshi.fedorapeople.org

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Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2014-10-01)
by Matthew Miller 01 Oct '14

01 Oct '14

=================================== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2014-10-01) =================================== Meeting started by mattdm at 17:00:18 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-10-01/fesco.2014-10-01… . Meeting summary --------------- * init process (mattdm, 17:00:23) * Fedora 22 scheduling strategy (and beyond) (mattdm, 17:03:09) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1349 (mattdm, 17:03:12) * taking conversation to ticket; coming back next week with some concrete proposals (mattdm, 17:46:36) * Consider renaming "Change(s) freeze" and "Beta deadline/accepted changes 100% complete" points (mattdm, 17:46:50) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1351 (mattdm, 17:46:53) * AGREED: adam to update ticket with something that looks good and we're all basically happy with that (mattdm, 17:58:27) * lots of plusses so much counting (mattdm, 17:58:40) * sincere thanks to adam from fesco for making the wiki better (mattdm, 17:59:03) * Next week's chair (mattdm, 17:59:28) * jwb to chair next week (mattdm, 18:00:08) * Open Floor (mattdm, 18:00:11) Meeting ended at 18:01:50 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * mattdm (86) * adamw (55) * nirik (50) * jwb (40) * jreznik (35) * dgilmore (35) * sgallagh (32) * mitr (28) * kalev (23) * drago01 (20) * t8m (10) * zodbot (6) * thozza (6) * Southern_Gentlem (3) * MarkDude (1) * mmaslano (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot -- Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org> Fedora Project Leader

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