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Fedora Docs Project Meeting Minutes 26 Jan 2015
by Pete Travis 26 Jan '15

26 Jan '15

==================================================================================================== #fedora-meeting: Docs Project Meeting - Agenda: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_meetings ==================================================================================================== Meeting started by randomuser at 14:00:29 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-01-26/fedora_docs.2015… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (randomuser, 14:00:30) * Follow up on last week's action items (randomuser, 14:06:23) * New Writers (randomuser, 14:07:10) * New Contributors, keep in touch! The group, or a mentor, http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_mentors , are always available for questions (randomuser, 14:10:24) * Publican/Publishing (randomuser, 14:10:37) * randomuser has no news on this subject (randomuser, 14:10:51) * Release Note Beats (randomuser, 14:11:52) * fedora.next (randomuser, 14:13:17) * Guide Status (randomuser, 14:21:21) * kudos to bcotton for his installation guide contribution (randomuser, 14:22:30) * ACTION: pbokoc to add the privileges section to the sysadmin guide like he promised Capesteve a week ago (pbokoc, 14:22:57) * ACTION: jsmith to ask Cloud SIG how we can enable them (randomuser, 14:31:43) * randomuser plans to publish mostly non-procedural multiboot guide (randomuser, 14:33:35) * Outstanding BZ Tickets (randomuser, 14:36:53) * LINK: http://tinyurl.com/lbrq84 (randomuser, 14:37:00) * If you're looking for something to do, the bug list is a good place to start (randomuser, 14:37:27) * Open Floor discussion (randomuser, 14:43:51) * LINK: https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/8UTIwhI-0xIUEznGzxMpLIguCb05pKHsCf9E42KUj… (pbokoc, 14:49:04) Meeting ended at 14:55:17 UTC. Action Items ------------ * pbokoc to add the privileges section to the sysadmin guide like he promised Capesteve a week ago * jsmith to ask Cloud SIG how we can enable them Action Items, by person ----------------------- * Capesteve * pbokoc to add the privileges section to the sysadmin guide like he promised Capesteve a week ago * jsmith * jsmith to ask Cloud SIG how we can enable them * pbokoc * pbokoc to add the privileges section to the sysadmin guide like he promised Capesteve a week ago * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * randomuser (76) * pbokoc (30) * grundblom (6) * zodbot (5) * pjones (5) * jsmith (5) * Capesteve (3) * pkovar (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot -- -- Pete Travis - Fedora Docs Project Leader - 'randomuser' on freenode - immanetize(a)fedoraproject.org

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Re: [Base] Base Design WG agenda meeting 23 January 2015 15:00 UTC on #fedora-meeting
by Phil Knirsch 23 Jan '15

23 Jan '15

On 01/23/2015 03:24 PM, Phil Knirsch wrote: > No specific agenda for today, but i'll be there in case there are any > points we want/need to bring up prior to DevConf. > > So mainly: > > Agenda: > - Open Floor > > Thanks & regards, Phil > Meeting ended Fri Jan 23 15:39:44 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-01-23/fedora_base_desi… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-01-23/fedora_base_desi… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-01-23/fedora_base_desi… -- Philipp Knirsch | Tel.: +49-711-96437-470 Manager Core Services | Fax.: +49-711-96437-111 Red Hat GmbH | Email: Phil Knirsch <pknirsch(a)redhat.com> Wankelstrasse 5 | Web: http://www.redhat.com/ D-70563 Stuttgart, Germany

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Fedora Chinese Meeting Minutes (2015-1-23)
by Zamir Sun 23 Jan '15

23 Jan '15

Hi all, Because of there are not many people attending the meeting, we just announced essential information for Offline Activities, FZUG local repo status and so on. Please review the proposed ideas and actions. The next IRC meeting will be held on next Friday (2015-01-30). Please come and join the discussion if you can! Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-zh/2015-01-23/fedora-zh.2015-01-23-… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-zh/2015-01-23/fedora-zh.2015-01-23-… http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-zh/2015-01-23/fedora-zh.2015-01-23-… ================== #fedora-zh Meeting ================== Meeting started by zsun at 13:03:54 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-zh/2015-01-23/fedora-zh.2015-01-23-… . Meeting summary --------------- * roll call (zsun, 13:04:00) * Offline events (zsun, 13:14:24) * Fedora 21 Release Party Beijing: Tomorrow 2PM in Tsinghua University (zsun, 13:14:44) * Alick is attending Chongqing LUG activities and hold an section for Fedora 21 Release Party (zsun, 13:15:12) * LINK: http://www.linuxstory.org/the-art-of-z-turn-and-fedora-21-release-party-cho… (zsun, 13:16:04) * ACTION: alick distribute polo shirts to registered ambassadors (zsun, 13:17:41) * FZUG Websites and fedora-cn package repo (zsun, 13:18:41) * ACTION: Call for softwares to package when copr is almost done (zsun, 13:19:07) * open floor (zsun, 13:21:09) * LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/famsco/2015-January/001666.html (zsun, 13:21:18) * FUDCon APAC 2015地点确定了:Pune (zsun, 13:21:54) * Pune win the bid for FUDCon APAC 2015 (zsun, 13:22:37) Meeting ended at 13:32:45 UTC. Action Items ------------ * alick distribute polo shirts to registered ambassadors * Call for softwares to package when copr is almost done Action Items, by person ----------------------- * alick * alick distribute polo shirts to registered ambassadors * **UNASSIGNED** * Call for softwares to package when copr is almost done People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * zsun (49) * tonghuix2 (11) * zodbot (5) * Pany (5) * isyangxin (4) * BadGirl (3) * alick (0) * tonghuix (0) * tiansworld (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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FAMNA Meeting Minutes 1-22-2015
by Andrew Ward 22 Jan '15

22 Jan '15

All, Please review our weekly meeting minutes from 22 January. To summarize, there were some new ideas for other events outside of the normal and some ideas for media production distribution. Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-01-23/famna.2015-01-23… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-01-23/famna.2015-01-23… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-01-23/famna.2015-01-23… V/R Andrew Ward award3535(a)fedoraproject.org award3535(a)tds.net award3535(a)gmail.com

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Summary/Minutes from today's FPC Meeting (2015-01-22 17:00 - 19:20 UTC)
by James Antill 22 Jan '15

22 Jan '15

====================== #fedora-meeting-1: fpc ====================== Meeting started by geppetto at 17:01:38 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2015-01-22/fpc.2015-01-22… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (geppetto, 17:01:38) * #493 Bundling exception: python-execnet bundles python-apipkg (geppetto, 17:07:36) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/493 (geppetto, 17:07:41) * LINK: https://bitbucket.org/hpk42/execnet/src/cf3d5866c62153afd9e587b175f8f375015… (geppetto, 17:12:32) * ACTION: tomspur Will have a deeper look and propose a patch for next week. (geppetto, 17:23:24) * #474 Allocating a soft static uid and gid 389 for dirsrv (geppetto, 17:24:09) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/474 (geppetto, 17:24:16) * ACTION: Managing the temporary image/container UIDs list is mostly out of scope for FPC, as it's going to be specific for atomic/cloud/whatever … and we don't want to give the impression this is the same as soft static UIDs. (geppetto, 17:36:51) * #481 static uids systemd-network, systemd-timesync, systemd-resolve (geppetto, 17:37:30) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/481 (geppetto, 17:37:35) * #478 Proposal: Package Guidelines: DevAssistant Assistant packages (DAP) (geppetto, 17:39:00) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/478 (geppetto, 17:39:01) * ACTION: Package Guidelines: DevAssistant Assistant packages (DAP) (+1:6, 0:0, -1:0) (geppetto, 17:58:03) * #475 Suggested Changes for Python Guidelines for F22 (geppetto, 17:58:28) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/475 (geppetto, 17:58:34) * ACTION: Suggested Changes for Python Guidelines for F22, versioned binaries (+1:5, 0:0, -1:0) (geppetto, 18:31:21) * #338 %doc and %_pkgdocdir duplicate files and cause conflicts (geppetto, 18:32:23) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/338 (geppetto, 18:32:28) * #304 asking for bundling exception for the package "rubygem-rdiscount" (geppetto, 18:47:07) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/304 (geppetto, 18:47:11) * LINK: http://ur1.ca/ji1jq (orionp, 18:59:52) * Open Floor (geppetto, 19:09:43) Meeting ended at 19:22:44 UTC. Action Items ------------ * tomspur Will have a deeper look and propose a patch for next week. * Managing the temporary image/container UIDs list is mostly out of scope for FPC, as it's going to be specific for atomic/cloud/whatever … and we don't want to give the impression this is the same as soft static UIDs. * Package Guidelines: DevAssistant Assistant packages (DAP) (+1:6, 0:0, -1:0) * Suggested Changes for Python Guidelines for F22, versioned binaries (+1:5, 0:0, -1:0) Action Items, by person ----------------------- * tomspur * tomspur Will have a deeper look and propose a patch for next week. * **UNASSIGNED** * Managing the temporary image/container UIDs list is mostly out of scope for FPC, as it's going to be specific for atomic/cloud/whatever … and we don't want to give the impression this is the same as soft static UIDs. * Package Guidelines: DevAssistant Assistant packages (DAP) (+1:6, 0:0, -1:0) * Suggested Changes for Python Guidelines for F22, versioned binaries (+1:5, 0:0, -1:0) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * geppetto (126) * tibbs|w (104) * orionp (33) * tomspur (29) * Rathann (21) * mbooth (15) * zodbot (9) * Corey84 (2) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Summary/Minutes from today's Fedora Infrastructure meeting (2015-01-22)
by Kevin Fenzi 22 Jan '15

22 Jan '15

============================================ #fedora-meeting: Infrastructure (2015-01-22) ============================================ Meeting started by nirik at 18:00:53 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-01-22/infrastructure.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * aloha (nirik, 18:00:53) * New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks (nirik, 18:02:40) * Applications status / discussion (nirik, 18:10:01) * new pkgdb release this week (nirik, 18:14:21) * new fedocal with some bugfixes (nirik, 18:14:30) * LINK: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/ (pingou, 18:15:53) * mirrormananger2 in staging reinstalled and all looks ok. (nirik, 18:19:52) * will look at converting one mirrorlist server from mirrormanager1 to 2 on monday and add it to the rotation. (nirik, 18:29:22) * Sysadmin status / discussion (nirik, 18:30:58) * koji01/02 migration tomorrow sometime, shouldn't need an outage. (nirik, 18:39:32) * 50 machines left in puppet currently (nirik, 18:39:39) * proxy playbooks looking good in ansible, will start converting the rest of them (nirik, 18:39:58) * pkgs01.stg is getting closer, once done we can roll out to pkgs01 (nirik, 18:40:17) * nagios/alerts recap (nirik, 18:40:42) * Upcoming Tasks/Items (nirik, 18:42:42) * LINK: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/list/infrastructure/ (nirik, 18:42:42) * Overview of an app - elections (nirik, 18:45:52) * Open Floor (nirik, 18:56:12) Meeting ended at 18:57:28 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * nirik (103) * pingou (88) * Mohamed_Fawzy (14) * smooge (9) * Corey84 (9) * bochecha (8) * lmacken (5) * sborza (4) * zodbot (4) * tflink (3) * andreasch (2) * threebean (2) * puiterwijk (1) * danielbruno (1) * relrod (1) * janeznemanic (1) * sayan (1) * fale (1) * dgilmore (1) * abadger1999 (0) * mdomsch (0) -- 18:00:53 <nirik> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2015-01-22) 18:00:53 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Jan 22 18:00:53 2015 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:00:53 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 18:00:53 <nirik> #meetingname infrastructure 18:00:53 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure' 18:00:53 <nirik> #topic aloha 18:00:53 <nirik> #chair smooge relrod nirik abadger1999 lmacken dgilmore mdomsch threebean pingou puiterwijk 18:00:53 <zodbot> Current chairs: abadger1999 dgilmore lmacken mdomsch nirik pingou puiterwijk relrod smooge threebean 18:00:57 * pingou here 18:00:58 * puiterwijk is around 18:01:04 * fale here 18:01:07 <janeznemanic> hi 18:01:08 * relrod here 18:01:22 * bochecha is also here (for once) 18:01:42 * sayan here 18:02:26 <nirik> alrighty. welcome everyone 18:02:28 * tflink is here 18:02:40 <nirik> #topic New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks 18:02:49 <nirik> Any new folks like to introduce themselves? 18:02:56 <nirik> or any apprentices with questions or comments? 18:03:00 <andreasch> Hello everyone, my name is Andreas Christoforou and I am working as a system administrator also I am a fedora ambassador and I would like to help and contribute to the Fedora infrastructure. 18:03:04 <dgilmore> hola amigos 18:03:15 <nirik> andreasch: welcome. 18:03:24 <pingou> welcome andreasch 18:03:30 <nirik> are you more interested in sysadmin (seems likely) or application development type tasks? 18:03:33 <pingou> hóla dgilmore 18:03:51 <andreasch> sysadmin;) 18:04:01 <Corey84> not new to group but willing to take on apprenticeship tasks 18:04:24 <Mohamed_Fawzy> hi 18:04:26 <Corey84> both for me sysadmin is strong suit tho 18:05:08 <nirik> welcome to the fun Corey84. ;) 18:05:16 <Mohamed_Fawzy> hello sorry for late. my name is mohammed i work as linux sysadmin 18:05:23 <Corey84> nirik, lol 18:05:31 <Mohamed_Fawzy> also I am a fedora ambassador and I would like to help and contribute to the Fedora infrastructure 18:05:34 <nirik> welcome Mohamed_Fawzy. 18:05:41 * sborza is here 18:05:51 <Mohamed_Fawzy> sorry for late 18:06:00 <nirik> Please all of you see me after the meeting in #fedora-admin and I can get you added to the apprentice group and point you the way of outstanding tasks. ;) 18:06:13 <pingou> welcome Mohamed_Fawzy 18:06:36 <Mohamed_Fawzy> Wow good 18:06:40 <Mohamed_Fawzy> i like that 18:07:05 <nirik> ok, any other new folks or apprentices with questions before we move on? 18:07:16 <Corey84> nirik, seems adam3535 never was able to do o on ambassador side either last mtg possible we can hit both issues after this mtg? 18:07:48 <smooge> apologies.. late 18:07:53 <nirik> Corey84: not sure I understand the issue... but happy to look into it... 18:07:54 * danielbruno is late, but here 18:08:24 <Corey84> he was planning to look into why i had not got added to ambassadors group but was on ML 18:09:01 <nirik> ah, no idea. ambassadors control that... 18:09:12 <nirik> unless there's some technical issue with the account system. 18:09:45 <Corey84> worst case ill tag up with Southern_Gentlem later 18:09:59 <nirik> sure. 18:10:01 <nirik> #topic Applications status / discussion 18:10:09 <nirik> ok, any applications side news this week? or upcoming? 18:11:12 <sborza> nirik: on the application front re:graphite-web, we're looking into building out the proper spec files + rpms 18:11:23 <nirik> cool. 18:11:30 <sborza> once they're built i'll ping the group on getting it added for testing 18:11:47 <pingou> new pkgdb2 released, major release coming up 18:11:50 <sborza> is there issue that it uses the Apache 2.0 license? don't think so but wanted to confirm 18:12:34 <nirik> sborza: should not be, thats a acceptable license 18:12:48 <pingou> pkgdb-cli release and a new one coming up (related to the future pkgdb2 one) 18:12:57 <pingou> I also updated fedocal 18:13:20 <pingou> all the changes have been announced on the infrastructure list 18:13:39 <nirik> yep. I really appreciate that... nice to see whats changed and when a release comes out. 18:14:02 <nirik> I'd love such for all our apps. ;) 18:14:17 <pingou> I thought the same, if something break everyone knows what changed in the most recent version 18:14:21 <nirik> #info new pkgdb release this week 18:14:30 <nirik> #info new fedocal with some bugfixes 18:14:42 <pingou> and on these words I will keep pushing new releases in the evenings and on fridays :-p 18:14:49 * pingou ducks 18:14:49 <nirik> I know threebean has been working on fixing FMN... it's suffering a backlog again. ;( 18:15:11 <pingou> yeah FMN has an interesting problem: its caching strategy is too good 18:15:39 <Corey84> FMN ? 18:15:52 <Mohamed_Fawzy> i dnt knw or get wht u all talk about 18:15:53 <pingou> https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/ 18:16:21 <nirik> It's our notification service. 18:16:23 * threebean here now 18:16:40 <nirik> it listens to messages and then according to a users preference notifies them... via email, irc, etc 18:17:00 <Mohamed_Fawzy> i got that but wht FMN 18:17:08 <pingou> FedMsg Notification 18:17:09 <bochecha> Mohamed_Fawzy, that's what FMN is 18:17:33 <tflink> how's bodhi2 coming along? 18:17:35 <pingou> FMN is the application running at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/ 18:17:37 <Mohamed_Fawzy> good thanks 18:18:03 <pingou> lmacken: update on bodhi2? 18:18:29 <nirik> I made a bodhi02.stg a bit ago... we were going to install bodhi2 on it and get it up in stg so we could see it. ;) 18:18:35 <pingou> I rebuild mirrormanager2 on stg today, the playbook went through nicely and all seems to run, which scares the hell out of me :) 18:18:38 <nirik> but not sure where we are there. 18:18:47 <pingou> rebuilt* 18:19:39 <lmacken> pingou: I'm working on polishing up the masher side of things at the moment 18:19:49 <lmacken> haven't had time to work on deploying/packaging the frontend stuff yet 18:19:52 <nirik> #info mirrormananger2 in staging reinstalled and all looks ok. 18:20:09 <nirik> pingou: whats the next steps for mirrormanager2? 18:20:16 <pingou> nirik: good question 18:20:27 <nirik> lmacken: is that something someone could assist with? it's making fedora packages? or upstream releases? 18:20:41 <pingou> I have no idea really how to test if stg is returning the same thing as prod 18:21:36 <nirik> as far as the end mirrorlists? 18:21:51 <bochecha> pingou, can we all set our yum configs to point to the stg mirror manager ? 18:21:56 <pingou> yes the mirrorlists, the UI itself I expect works 18:22:13 <bochecha> pingou, then we'll see if it at least returns something usable :) 18:22:14 <lmacken> nirik: yeah, I think we need to RPMify some more of the pyramid stack. Will have to touch base with threebean about it since I think he packaged up bodhi2 itself. 18:22:19 <pingou> bochecha: I expect this will always work, as most mirrors are up to date 18:23:09 <nirik> well, it may be then we just need to forge ahead and move things into production and fix any reported issues... 18:23:10 <threebean> yeah, i did lots of the pyramid stack. some pieces might be missing though (cornice?) 18:23:26 <bochecha> didn't I package cornice during the Denver FAD? 18:23:38 <lmacken> bochecha: I believe so 18:24:04 <pingou> nirik: when would be a good time 18:24:17 <bochecha> pingou, tomorrow evening, around 5:45pm ;) 18:24:35 <pingou> bochecha: oh cool, I was planning on leaving at 5:46 for 2 weeks off :) 18:24:42 <nirik> pingou: so, do we need to do it all at once? or can we do mirrorlists first, then frontend/backend? or is that mixing data from the current v1 one with v2 mirrorlists bad? 18:25:16 <pingou> nirik: I *think* we may be able to move mirrorlist first 18:25:23 <pingou> the pickle hasn't changed normally 18:25:28 <bochecha> threebean, cornice is in: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/python-cornice/ 18:25:34 <nirik> FYI, for folks who are new... mirrormanager is the thing that keeps track of our mirrors and part of it is what people query with yum to find packages. 18:25:43 <pingou> the mirrorlist itself also barely changed (just some optimization from lmacken ) 18:26:06 * lmacken crosses his fingers and hopes those don't cause any regressions 18:26:07 <pingou> (in other words, when mirrormanager breaks, we know it, fast! :D) 18:26:15 <nirik> pingou: but it's available in epel7/rhel7 right? (current ones are 6, which I want to upgrade from) 18:26:17 <pingou> lmacken: well, you have unit-tested it ;-) 18:26:25 <pingou> nirik: they are 18:26:47 <nirik> so I would say, lets try and do one of those, see how it goes, then the rest, then the backend/frontend. 18:26:53 <pingou> mirrorlists.stg is el7 18:27:26 <pingou> nirik: I'm ok with this, just that from next week friday timing will be short w/ FOSDEM and DevConf coming up 18:27:55 <pingou> so all joke aside, we may want to upgrade one mirrorlist next week Monday or so 18:27:57 <nirik> true... can try and do it monday and that gives a week to fix anything we see? 18:28:03 <nirik> right. +1 18:28:05 <pingou> leaving us 3 days before FOSDEM to fix things 18:28:24 <pingou> nirik: and let's announce it here and there :) 18:28:25 <nirik> I suspect we will see issues pretty quickly... 18:28:44 <pingou> not too many I hope 18:28:59 <nirik> yeah, I hope it will be smooth. ;) 18:29:08 <pingou> fingers crossed ;) 18:29:22 <nirik> #info will look at converting one mirrorlist server from mirrormanager1 to 2 on monday and add it to the rotation. 18:29:48 <nirik> ok, any other application news? 18:30:30 * pingou blogged a little about the new branch process coming up in pkgdb2 18:30:40 <nirik> oh yeah, I saw that. Much feedback? 18:30:46 <pingou> none :) 18:30:55 <nirik> figures. ;( 18:30:58 <nirik> #topic Sysadmin status / discussion 18:31:02 <pingou> so it's perfect! :) 18:31:06 <nirik> ok, on the sysadmin side of things.... 18:31:41 <nirik> I reinstalled out tummy01 server and then reinstalled proxy03 on it with threebean's excellent proxy ansible playbooks. 18:31:49 <smooge> cool 18:31:54 <nirik> There were some minor tweaks but overall it seems to be running great now. 18:32:00 <smooge> I need to take that and work on next people 18:32:41 <pingou> what is on tummy01? 18:32:45 <nirik> I also wrote playbooks for blockerbugs this morning and migrated blockerbugs01.stg to ansible/rhel7 18:33:04 <nirik> pingou: proxy03, smtp-mm-tummy01, unbound-tummy01 18:33:24 <pingou> and tummy is a location or ? 18:33:25 <pingou> (name sounds weird to me) 18:33:32 <nirik> yes. It's a donated server from tummy.com. ;) (who I used to work for) 18:33:41 <pingou> ok :) 18:33:46 <nirik> it's here in denver (at a datacenter) 18:33:50 <Mohamed_Fawzy> Good 18:33:59 <pingou> nirik: is it angry? 18:34:10 <nirik> no? 18:34:29 <pingou> hungry** 18:34:41 <nirik> ha. ;) No, it's full and content 18:34:45 <pingou> and this, ladies and gentlemen, is how you miss a joke :) 18:34:47 <Mohamed_Fawzy> lol 18:35:18 <nirik> so, with the blockerbugs01.stg move this morning, we are down to 50 hosts left in puppet. 18:35:20 <pingou> nirik: how many app/hosts left in puppet? 18:35:27 <nirik> ^ :) 18:35:31 <pingou> big ones? 18:35:50 <nirik> well, now that we have proxy playbooks we can do the proxies... there's a bunch of them 18:36:05 <smooge> so the other 40 we can just turn off? 18:36:09 <nirik> a few are machines that are going to go away before too long 18:36:19 * pingou _ó/\o_ threebean for the proxy playbok 18:36:21 <smooge> no one needs lockbox 18:36:28 <nirik> oh, reminds me... 18:36:32 <pingou> smooge: +1 18:36:42 <nirik> I have koji01/02 now setup and ready to go to replace koji03/04 18:36:58 <nirik> I was thinking of doing that tomorrow. It actually should only be a short blip... no real outage 18:37:13 <nirik> and that will be 2 less in puppet then. ;) 18:37:22 <bochecha> another one in puppet is pkgs01 :x 18:37:32 * nirik nods. yep. 18:37:54 <tflink> any updates on the new openstack? 18:37:58 <nirik> we also have some more remote sites we need to reinstall... and we have run into issues with rhel7 anaconda not wanting to nuke old installs right. ;( 18:38:17 <pingou> we're almost there for this one 18:38:21 <pingou> (pkgs01) 18:38:30 <nirik> tflink: msuchy has been working on it. He now has the head node up and working... and was going to add compute nodes. 18:38:45 <nirik> tflink: hopefully we just add in a few more things and we can start using it. 18:38:53 <nirik> storage got figured out/is working 18:38:57 <smooge> cool 18:39:16 <nirik> of course I keep thinking this, but perhaps someday I will be right. ;) 18:39:32 <nirik> #info koji01/02 migration tomorrow sometime, shouldn't need an outage. 18:39:39 <nirik> #info 50 machines left in puppet currently 18:39:58 <nirik> #info proxy playbooks looking good in ansible, will start converting the rest of them 18:40:17 <nirik> #info pkgs01.stg is getting closer, once done we can roll out to pkgs01 18:40:26 <smooge> nirik, I expect that someday we will just say "tough fulsom dies." and will use whatever word they give X :) 18:40:42 <nirik> #topic nagios/alerts recap 18:40:54 * nirik looks for the url.. should put it in the meeting announcement 18:42:27 <nirik> nagios is being anoying... anyhow it was a heavy alert week... 18:42:42 <nirik> #topic Upcoming Tasks/Items 18:42:42 <nirik> https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/list/infrastructure/ 18:42:51 <nirik> anything upcoming anyone would like to schedule or note? 18:43:09 <nirik> I'll mention again that smooge and i will be at the main phx datacenter feb 9th to 12th 18:43:30 <pingou> just during branching 18:44:16 <nirik> indeed. 18:44:19 <nirik> we can work around that. 18:44:34 <nirik> pingou: you want to talk about one of our apps for a few? which one? 18:44:40 <pingou> I'll be there to handle the pkgdb side anyway 18:44:45 <pingou> sure I can 18:45:16 <pingou> I've got election, nuancier, pkgdb, fedocal, mirrormanager2 (this one might be a little complex to explain right now) 18:45:20 <pingou> any preferences? 18:45:41 <nirik> how about elections? 18:45:48 <pingou> sure 18:45:52 <nirik> #topic Overview of an app - elections 18:46:03 <pingou> so the election app is available at https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting 18:46:19 <pingou> it's basically the web application that we use to do all the vote in the community 18:46:56 <pingou> We had an old turbogear 1 application which has been ported to turbogears 2 (never deployed), then to flask 18:47:09 <pingou> and it is this last version (using the flask framework) that is now running 18:47:33 <pingou> most of the heavy lifting of porting the application has been done by fchiulli 18:47:37 <pingou> and I took over after this 18:47:49 <pingou> the idea is that we have some sort of plugin system 18:47:56 <pingou> allowing different type of election 18:48:05 <pingou> for example: select 10 candidates in a list of 100 18:48:34 <pingou> or: assigned a score ranging from 10 (most preferred) to 1 (least preferred) to all the candidates 18:48:45 <pingou> or, pick one out of all the candidate 18:48:54 <nirik> is there other plugins now than range voting? 18:49:14 <pingou> nirik: all the exemple I just gave are present :) 18:49:30 <nirik> cool 18:49:35 <pingou> there is also an 'IRC' plugin supporting vote following the -1/0/+1 approach taken during IRC votes 18:49:57 <pingou> the UI adjusts itself depending on the type of election 18:50:30 <pingou> and after an election has ended, there are some stats available for it, for example https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/results/council-nov14 18:50:45 <Corey84> nice 18:51:09 <pingou> there is a graph coming in the next release showing the evolution of the votes during the voting period 18:51:23 <pingou> (so: are people voting more at the beginning or at the end of the voting period?) 18:51:45 <nirik> on the deployment side we have 2 app servers running the app talking to a database. So, if either is down the other takes all the traffic. 18:52:14 <nirik> pingou: there were some slowdown issues with the last election, we solved all those right? or were there still some? 18:52:16 <pingou> from a technology point of view it is: python, the flask web-framework, 1 database (postgresql) interfaced to using SQLAlchemy and jquery flot for the graph coming in the next release 18:52:27 <pingou> from an infra point of view: nirik already explained :) 18:52:35 <pingou> nirik: yes we solved it 18:52:55 <nirik> ok, just wanted to make sure, we have another election coming up. ;) 18:52:57 <pingou> the issue was that we were querying FAS to retrieve the real name of each candidate everytime someone wanted to vote 18:53:13 <pingou> since the real name doesn't change that often, we are now caching the info :) 18:53:24 <pingou> (thanks threebean for fixing this) 18:53:42 <nirik> ah yes. ;) 18:53:52 <pingou> any questions ? 18:54:47 * nirik asked his already 18:54:54 <nirik> oh, code is at: https://github.com/fedora-infra/elections 18:54:56 <pingou> Corey84: Mohamed_Fawzy all good? 18:55:01 <pingou> nirik: good point, thanks! :) 18:55:13 <Mohamed_Fawzy> Not 100% but i got some 18:55:16 <Corey84> yup all good here 18:55:29 <pingou> cool :) 18:55:49 <pingou> anyway, if you ever have a question about this app or another one, feel free to ask on -admin or -apps 18:55:56 <nirik> We are going to try and go over some app or setup each meeting. ;) Hopefully helps us all 18:55:56 <pingou> (that is #fedora-admin or #fedora-apps) 18:56:04 <Mohamed_Fawzy> i know it is first meet i must get some things fall 18:56:04 <nirik> thanks pingou 18:56:12 <nirik> #topic Open Floor 18:56:23 <nirik> anyone have any items for open floor? questions, comments? 18:56:32 <nirik> Mohamed_Fawzy: yeah, theres a lot to take in. :) 18:56:42 <smooge> nothing for me 18:56:46 <Mohamed_Fawzy> yea hahhahaha 18:57:18 <nirik> cool. Well, everyone do continue over in #fedora-admin, #fedora-noc and #fedora-apps. 18:57:18 <smooge> pingou, congrats on the elections thing! 18:57:28 <nirik> #endmeeting

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[Ambassadors] LATAM meeting minutes 2015-01-21
by Eduardo Javier Echeverria Alvarado 21 Jan '15

21 Jan '15

Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-01-21/latam_ambassador… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-01-21/latam_ambassador… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-01-21/latam_ambassador…

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EMEA ambassadors meeting minutes 2015-01-21
by Jiri Eischmann 21 Jan '15

21 Jan '15

Hi, we had a regular EMEA meeting, a rather short one (only 54 minutes), 11 ambassadors attended. Summary: Roll Call (sesivany, 21:00:43) Announcements (sesivany, 21:05:10) We have a draft of EMEA budget for the next fiscal year: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/EMEA/Budget:2016 (sesivany, 21:06:37) Requests (sesivany, 21:10:37) https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/report/1?sort=ticket&asc=1&page… (sesivany, 21:11:31) A $200 contribution to cover travel expenses of Levex to travel to SCALE 13x has been approved on peer review basis. (sesivany, 21:13:23) https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/ticket/455 (sesivany, 21:13:30) Ambassador's schedule (sesivany, 21:15:58) https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Schedule (sesivany, 21:16:45) Events (sesivany, 21:20:34) Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-01-21/emea_ambassadors… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-01-21/emea_ambassadors… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-01-21/emea_ambassadors… The next meeting will be on February 4th. Jiri

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Summary/Minutes for today's FESCo meeting (2015-01-21)
by Dennis Gilmore 21 Jan '15

21 Jan '15

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 =================================== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2015-01-21) =================================== Meeting started by dgilmore at 18:06:04 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-01-21/fesco.2015-01-21… . Meeting summary - --------------- * init process (dgilmore, 18:06:07) * #1349 Fedora 22 scheduling strategy (and beyond) (dgilmore, 18:08:21) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1349 (dgilmore, 18:08:22) * #1326 change to fesco replacement process? (dgilmore, 18:09:41) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1326 (dgilmore, 18:09:42) * AGREED: continue discussion in the ticket to resolve the hard bit (7+, 0-) (dgilmore, 18:17:31) * #1381 Nonresponsive maintainer: odysseus (dgilmore, 18:17:42) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1381 (dgilmore, 18:17:50) * LINK: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packager/odysseus/ (nirik, 18:18:47) * AGREED: he is awol and his packages should be orphaned per the process (7+, 0-) (dgilmore, 18:23:43) * #1392 Review scope of "Python 3 as default" Change for F22 (dgilmore, 18:24:01) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1392 (dgilmore, 18:24:09) * AGREED: We don't need to revisit this right now, since there's a contingency plan in place. Let it work itself out. (7+, 0-) (dgilmore, 18:33:31) * #1374 F22 Self Contained Changes (dgilmore, 18:33:43) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1374 (dgilmore, 18:33:45) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1374#comment:5 (dgilmore, 18:34:20) * LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2015-January/206509.html is from a wine maintainer (mitr, 18:37:01) * AGREED: all changes this week accepted, with the caveat that the wine maintainer is not required to take the patch for the change. (7+, 0-) on ticket tmaz was 0 to wine and +1 to others (dgilmore, 18:40:59) * #1384 F22 System Wide Change: Harden all packages with position-independent code (dgilmore, 18:42:23) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Harden_all_packages_with_position-in… (dgilmore, 18:42:32) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1384 (dgilmore, 18:42:37) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Modernise_GCC_Flags (nirik, 18:45:21) * AGREED: defer for more data (5+, 0-) (dgilmore, 19:05:08) * #1389 F22 System Wide Change: GCC5 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GCC5 (dgilmore, 19:06:41) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1389 (dgilmore, 19:06:50) * AGREED: updated gcc5 change accepted for f22 (7+, 0-) (dgilmore, 19:10:35) * we will make sure that Fedora's f22 behaviour is documented (dgilmore, 19:28:46) * #1390 F22 System Wide Change: RpmOstree - Server side composes and atomic upgrades - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/RpmOstree (dgilmore, 19:29:12) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1390 (dgilmore, 19:29:21) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Atomic_Cloud_Image (dgilmore, 19:33:24) * AGREED: defer until we get further details on what is actually being proposed (7+, 0-) (dgilmore, 19:40:26) * Next week's chair (dgilmore, 19:40:42) * nirik to run next weeks meeting (dgilmore, 19:42:59) * Open Floor (dgilmore, 19:43:09) Meeting ended at 19:54:30 UTC. Action Items - ------------ Action Items, by person - ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) - --------------------------- * dgilmore (151) * nirik (67) * mattdm (47) * jwb (40) * mitr (39) * jakubrh (33) * sgallagh (31) * zodbot (15) * kalev_ (15) * moezroy (9) * dmalcolm (7) * polacek (6) * jason237 (5) * tibbs|w (5) * jreznik (4) * rdieter (3) * mclasen (2) * randomuser (2) * mmaslano (0) * kalev (0) * thozza (0) * t8m (0) * stickster (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJUwBntAAoJEH7ltONmPFDRNl0QANW2/JfZ+g31VRpIBoK79OF4 lR+XsKDrafbiZMKqO9mVPkLgn4jN6a770GPESzt0PzxzSDJK+4RWl0nXcHdnPqsZ y7rc1Ndc9+iW8Q+tk7rJHoOw95x0yB4hcONtdaJgBGZ3n7XSsu53xgKdL68/i8J6 EEyIS7IV51Va7knlKWICK0a26HjKQ8qGphAFb+vwo5S+IvTJs1fpsCrw82hWtbpZ 6NJPrVi8LjYfluUMMmgnjP9lSvqQfOPut8GWx4enczveV9EOsIf1H1de9rkxZCMz VMX3rfwg9Ogvz+qhTTTFMqo6Q7jDuA6voiw+RCtvOEzG8D8tSd0NeaeD0DPLjR9j PH6Y4/t7P0GtadBhT2v1564bHPMSHABhTJRXPl4BnYIibEveOey+BU5NIjeAyslq 2Tgc7VB3xUhiqp8BKbGwVpRGmaRg70+6J3CwnSGh24zQoIq2Sk+z8sStjuoH4jFP wDKSZLIU9y7iNzMFRRf7UtYIHSg4EaKZqaJ5gG4Yq9QvgKgML0KBSWeJdIxZApam THvv57L4om45yBtlHKpOK6T0H3e18moQmTLSE6mSwFDY1ch9MabdbSFEidb87XaA F7z6fcg0OTNDl77SdwenQmTq6k/RTunvW/+Y+3hImOpqD1mf7cdtIjGyBcWCeKrs P0of+4VtwuDA56ygLTQ2 =n7RW -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Workstation WG Recap 2015-Jan-21
by Paul W. Frields 21 Jan '15

21 Jan '15

Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-01-21/workstation.2015… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-01-21/workstation.2015… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-01-21/workstation.2015… * * * ====================================== #fedora-meeting: Fedora Workstation WG ====================================== Meeting started by stickster at 16:00:52 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-01-21/workstation.2015… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll call! (stickster, 16:01:07) * libinput plan (stickster, 16:05:02) * LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/desktop/2015-January/011396.html (stickster, 16:10:53) * AGREED: We can go ahead and make changes as suggested; KDE can carry a patch for now, whot is working with upstream (stickster, 16:13:57) * ACTION: mclasen Add to F22 tasklist for tracking (stickster, 16:14:09) * Third party applications (stickster, 16:17:03) * LINK: http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2015/01/19/planning-for-fedora-workstation-22/ (stickster, 16:17:10) * LINK: http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2015/01/09/finding-hidden-applications-with-… (stickster, 16:17:16) * AGREED: proposal on 4 test cases sounds good to everyone who voiced an opinion (stickster, 16:51:25) * ACTION: cschalle write draft proposal for 3rd party metadata and circulate to WG before next meeting for comment/iteration on list (stickster, 16:51:49) * ACTION: mclasen Work with hughsie on fine-tuning of gnome-software as needed to support policy draft/agreements (stickster, 16:52:34) * Wallpaper (stickster, 16:55:13) * LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/desktop/2015-January/011477.html (stickster, 16:55:38) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/WallpapersCleanup (ryanlerch_, 16:56:09) * Supplemental wallpapers have been included for most recent releases (stickster, 16:58:24) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F20_Artwork/Submissions/Supplemental_Wallpap… (stickster, 16:58:27) * IDEA: Orthogonal -- do we want some non-package source available for more art? (stickster, 17:06:54) * IDEA: Have 16 wallpapers besides the Fedora + GNOME defaults, to fill the grid to 18 (stickster, 17:07:37) * LINK: https://debarshiray.wordpress.com/2014/03/18/flickring-backgrounds/ ? (mclasen, 17:08:05) * IDEA: aday suggests managing the wallpapers as a single set rather than from different sources (stickster, 17:10:52) Meeting ended at 17:19:37 UTC. Action Items ------------ * mclasen Add to F22 tasklist for tracking * cschalle write draft proposal for 3rd party metadata and circulate to WG before next meeting for comment/iteration on list * mclasen Work with hughsie on fine-tuning of gnome-software as needed to support policy draft/agreements Action Items, by person ----------------------- * cschalle * cschalle write draft proposal for 3rd party metadata and circulate to WG before next meeting for comment/iteration on list * mclasen * mclasen Add to F22 tasklist for tracking * mclasen Work with hughsie on fine-tuning of gnome-software as needed to support policy draft/agreements * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * stickster (112) * mclasen (44) * cschalle (38) * ryanlerch_ (24) * rdieter (19) * drago01 (14) * elad661 (9) * aday (6) * hansg (5) * zodbot (5) * jwb (5) * kalev_ (3) * nirik (1) * pingou (1) * otaylor (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com

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