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Fedora Chinese Meeting Minutes (2015-03-06)
by Zhenbo Li 06 Mar '15

06 Mar '15

Hi all, The IRC meeting minutes yesterday are available at the links below. Thanks everyone for attending the meeting. Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-zh/2015-03-06/fedora-zh.2015-03-06-… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-zh/2015-03-06/fedora-zh.2015-03-06-… Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-zh/2015-03-06/fedora-zh.2015-03-06-… ================== #fedora-zh Meeting ================== Meeting started by alick at 13:02:15 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-zh/2015-03-06/fedora-zh.2015-03-06-… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call 报到 (alick, 13:02:22) * topic: Offline events 线下活动 (alick, 13:04:02) * topic: fedora-zh package repo (alick, 13:04:21) * IDEA: topic: github/fzug (alick, 13:05:25) * Offline events 线下活动 (alick, 13:11:00) * ACTION: cheeselee contact GZLUG on Packaging FAD (alick, 13:13:17) * ACTION: alick notify cheeselee to update (alick, 13:13:28) * FUDCon Pune 2015 CFP is close to due (2015-03-09) (alick, 13:14:28) * ACTION: zerng07 inquire freedomknight and others about attendance to hkosc/fudcon (alick, 13:28:29) * http://beijinglug.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=777:educ… (tonghuix, 13:30:22) * LINK: http://beijinglug.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=777:educ… (alick, 13:31:01) * zsun will give a lightning talk in BLUG EFD event (tonghuix, 13:31:41) * EFD will be on 2015-03-21 at 中科院玉泉路校区 (alick, 13:31:56) * LINK: http://beijinglug.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=776:blug… (alick, 13:33:34) * BLUG monthly meeting, bugs report trainning (tonghuix, 13:33:53) * BLUG meeting (2015-03-10) features zsun (alick, 13:34:28) * fedora-zh package repo (alick, 13:35:57) * LINK: https://copr.fdzh.org (alick, 13:36:29) * LINK: https://github.com/FZUG/Copr (alick, 13:36:44) * LINK: https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/469759-%E7%9B%AE%E5%89%8D-home-o… (tonghuix, 13:37:27) * ACTION: zsun write down the package classify guideline for local repo (alick, 13:41:34) * ACTION: bowen document how to set up copr in docker (alick, 13:43:57) * github/fzug (alick, 13:48:36) * LINK: https://github.com/fzug (alick, 13:48:59) Meeting ended at 14:04:23 UTC. Action Items ------------ * cheeselee contact GZLUG on Packaging FAD * alick notify cheeselee to update * zerng07 inquire freedomknight and others about attendance to hkosc/fudcon * zsun write down the package classify guideline for local repo * bowen document how to set up copr in docker Action Items, by person ----------------------- * alick * alick notify cheeselee to update * zerng07 * zerng07 inquire freedomknight and others about attendance to hkosc/fudcon * **UNASSIGNED** * cheeselee contact GZLUG on Packaging FAD * zsun write down the package classify guideline for local repo * bowen document how to set up copr in docker People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * alick (70) * tonghuix (10) * tvvocold (8) * zodbot (7) * BadGirl (7) * zerng07 (4) * endle (3) * Pany (1) * isyangxin (1) * tiansworld (0) * microcai (0) * biergaizi (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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FamNA meeting minutes 3/2/2015
by Andrew Ward 05 Mar '15

05 Mar '15

All, we had our weekly meeting tonight, Please read the minutes from tonight's meeting. http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-03-06/famna.2015-03-06… (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-03-06/famna.2015-03-06… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-03-06/famna.2015-03-06… V/r Andrew Ward award3535(a)fedoraproject.org award3535(a)tds.net award3535(a)gmail.com

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Summary/Minutes from today's Fedora Infrastructure meeting (2015-03-05)
by Kevin Fenzi 05 Mar '15

05 Mar '15

============================================ #fedora-meeting: Infrastructure (2015-03-05) ============================================ Meeting started by nirik at 18:00:17 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-03-05/infrastructure.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * aloha (nirik, 18:00:17) * New folks introductions / Apprentice feedback (nirik, 18:00:17) * Information / status updates from the last week (nirik, 18:06:15) * Trying new meeting process this week with shared document - kevin (nirik, 18:06:26) * Figured out why squid smp mode wasnt working and posted to list - kevin (nirik, 18:06:26) * Ipsilon is now in staging, please test and give me your problems - puiterwijk (nirik, 18:06:26) * A large number of bug/RFEs have been coming in on anitya, the-new-hotness, and fmn. Any help appreciated. - ralph (nirik, 18:06:27) * reminder: we are in Fedora 22 Alpha Freeze - kevin (nirik, 18:06:27) * worked on getting gobby back in shape - kevin (nirik, 18:06:29) * made progress on new openstack cloud and kept old one stumbling along - kevin and puiterwijk (nirik, 18:06:31) * nagios alerts this week - http://ur1.ca/jr7j4 - kevin (nirik, 18:06:33) * moved osu hosts around, should help nagios alerting - kevin (nirik, 18:06:35) * fixed issue with varnish caching old wiki pages - puiterwijk (nirik, 18:06:37) * progit moving along but the more tester the better - pingou (nirik, 18:06:39) * fedmenu prototype nearing completion, feedback requested http://threebean.org/fedmenu - ralph (nirik, 18:06:41) * New meeting process (nirik, 18:06:56) * Fedorahosted (nirik, 18:12:00) * will move hosted to rhel7 and keep trac and current setup for now. (nirik, 18:17:41) * will work on progit to groom it to replace hosted someday when it grows up. (nirik, 18:17:55) * Learn about.... "the-new-hotness" (nirik, 18:25:09) * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/easyfix/ we have some on github (pingou, 18:41:32) * Open Floor (nirik, 18:46:01) * we should investigate doing a docker registery. (nirik, 18:52:18) Meeting ended at 18:56:43 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * nirik (105) * threebean (38) * pingou (27) * dgilmore (26) * puiterwijk (11) * Cydrobolt (11) * smooge (11) * oddshocks (7) * jsmith (5) * zodbot (4) * langdon (4) * pbrobinson (3) * mirek-hm (3) * lmacken (2) * andreasch (1) * tflink (1) * relrod (1) * mclasen_ (1) * danofsatx (1) * roshi (1) * mdomsch (0) * abadger1999 (0) -- 18:00:17 <nirik> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2015-03-05) 18:00:17 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Mar 5 18:00:17 2015 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:00:17 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 18:00:17 <nirik> #meetingname infrastructure 18:00:17 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure' 18:00:17 <nirik> #topic aloha 18:00:17 <nirik> #chair smooge relrod nirik abadger1999 lmacken dgilmore mdomsch threebean pingou puiterwijk 18:00:17 <zodbot> Current chairs: abadger1999 dgilmore lmacken mdomsch nirik pingou puiterwijk relrod smooge threebean 18:00:17 <nirik> #topic New folks introductions / Apprentice feedback 18:00:25 <nirik> morning everyone. 18:00:35 <threebean> hey hey 18:00:43 * mirek-hm is here 18:00:48 <puiterwijk> (UGT) morning everyone 18:00:55 <pingou> Morning 18:00:59 <Cydrobolt> morning 18:01:02 * danofsatx is lurking about in the vicinity 18:01:03 * lmacken 18:01:24 <andreasch> hi 18:01:51 <nirik> we have a gobby document up. See https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Gobby 18:01:54 * tflink is here 18:01:57 * Cydrobolt is here, but may be distracted 18:02:20 <nirik> also http://gobby.fedoraproject.org/cgit/.git/ 18:02:58 * oddshocks here 18:03:01 <Cydrobolt> installing gobby 18:03:01 <smooge> hello. sorry was playing with gobby/sobby/obby 18:03:04 <nirik> any new folks or apprentices with questions? 18:03:48 <nirik> In 2 minutes or so I will dump all the #infos from the gobby doc here for meetbot to digest. ;) 18:03:58 <nirik> feel free to add any before then... 18:04:03 <Cydrobolt> nirik, first time able to catch this meeting 18:04:10 <nirik> hey Cydrobolt. welcome. 18:04:17 <Cydrobolt> :) 18:06:15 <nirik> #topic Information / status updates from the last week 18:06:23 <nirik> <flood coming> 18:06:26 <nirik> #info Trying new meeting process this week with shared document - kevin 18:06:26 <nirik> #info Figured out why squid smp mode wasnt working and posted to list - kevin 18:06:26 <nirik> #info Ipsilon is now in staging, please test and give me your problems - puiterwijk 18:06:27 <nirik> #info A large number of bug/RFEs have been coming in on anitya, the-new-hotness, and fmn. Any help appreciated. - ralph 18:06:27 <nirik> #info reminder: we are in Fedora 22 Alpha Freeze - kevin 18:06:29 <nirik> #info worked on getting gobby back in shape - kevin 18:06:31 <nirik> #info made progress on new openstack cloud and kept old one stumbling along - kevin and puiterwijk 18:06:33 <nirik> #info nagios alerts this week - http://ur1.ca/jr7j4 - kevin 18:06:35 <nirik> #info moved osu hosts around, should help nagios alerting - kevin 18:06:37 <nirik> #info fixed issue with varnish caching old wiki pages - puiterwijk 18:06:39 <nirik> #info progit moving along but the more tester the better - pingou 18:06:41 <nirik> #info fedmenu prototype nearing completion, feedback requested http://threebean.org/fedmenu - ralph 18:06:56 <nirik> #topic New meeting process 18:07:06 <dgilmore> hola 18:07:12 * pbrobinson waves 18:07:15 <nirik> so this is all new, what do folks think? how can we adjust it or should we just go back to the old way? 18:07:20 <nirik> welcome dgilmore and pbrobinson. :) 18:07:25 * roshi lurks 18:07:30 * pingou ok with trying a little longer 18:07:36 <oddshocks> +1 18:07:44 <puiterwijk> yeah, +1 on trying at least some more time 18:07:45 <pingou> I thing I was thinking is that it makes it easier for people to not be present 18:07:52 <mirek-hm> nirik: +1 it will be faster (although maybe little bit async) 18:07:55 <nirik> It seems like folks don't remember to update the shared doc really... but not sure how to fix that 18:07:59 <pingou> I just dump my info on gobby and then I can go do something else 18:08:05 <threebean> heh, I think I like it already. 18:08:09 <nirik> pingou: yeah. unless there's a discussion item? 18:08:14 <nirik> that you care about 18:08:26 <pingou> nirik: yes, but easily missed, especially if added at the last minute 18:08:38 <smooge> no no no.. he just agrees to take the work from the item he missed 18:08:51 <nirik> true. Perhaps those items should be only added until the day before... 18:08:55 <Cydrobolt> it sounds interesting 18:09:24 <nirik> gobby isn't the best thing in the world either. ;( But it's free and we have it now... 18:09:35 * jsmith shows up late and lurks 18:09:59 <mirek-hm> ad OpenStack - all services are now available using SSL and only SSL ports are exported via endpoints. Everything works using command line tools, but when I start VM I get error, therefore it is still not finished 18:10:15 <pingou> arf 18:10:17 <pingou> so close 18:10:30 <nirik> mirek-hm: I was going to look at vnc later today perhaps... and I can look at the vm error. 18:10:45 <nirik> ok, so sounds like folks are ok to keep trying and adjusting this new format then? 18:11:15 * relrod here late, sorry! 18:11:23 <Cydrobolt> hi relrod 18:11:56 <nirik> ok, moving on 18:12:00 <nirik> #topic Fedorahosted 18:12:11 <nirik> sounds like we had some good discussion on list about this... 18:12:29 <nirik> and the concensus was mostly to just keep the current setup, but move progit forward as we can 18:13:16 <nirik> I guess we should move it to rhel7 though... 18:13:25 <Cydrobolt> nirik, do you have a link to progit? 18:13:37 <Cydrobolt> I can only find information about the book 18:13:57 <puiterwijk> nirik: I can take a look at trac on upgrading our current traci nstances to the new trac 18:14:09 <pingou> Cydrobolt: http://209.132.184.222/progit/issue/47 18:14:18 <puiterwijk> (so packaging requires extensions etc) 18:14:29 <pingou> btw, everybody is welcome to weight in that ticket as well ^ :) 18:14:37 <Cydrobolt> ah, we are developing it ourselves? 18:14:42 <nirik> puiterwijk: so, I looked into this. looks like 0.12.x is almost dead... they might do one more release, but thats it. 18:15:04 <puiterwijk> nirik: yeah, I saw the summary on your email. I think we want to look if 1.X is doable 18:15:05 <nirik> so, 1.0 seems like the best bet. It's unlikely to live for 10 years tho... 18:15:10 <Cydrobolt> interesting 18:15:32 <nirik> but I think we can just package it as 'trac' in epel7 and then when it dies we can package 1.2 as trac12 or whatever. 18:15:33 <puiterwijk> right, but I'm hoping the changes in the X-series will be minimal enough 18:15:38 <nirik> ie, not worry about the parallel right now 18:15:41 <puiterwijk> yeah 18:15:48 <pingou> \ó/ 18:15:56 <nirik> in which case, we don't need reviews, just branching and building and testing 18:16:13 <puiterwijk> yeah 18:16:34 <puiterwijk> so I'd be willing to look into that next week, and see if I can get an ansible playbook for hosted 18:16:49 <nirik> cool. I can build up the stack if you want to work on the playbook? 18:16:52 <nirik> or vice versa. 18:17:17 <puiterwijk> let's discuss that after the meeting, as it depends on where the stack is at this moment I guess 18:17:19 <nirik> I already do have the trac maintainers go ahead to branch 18:17:23 <nirik> sure. 18:17:41 <nirik> #info will move hosted to rhel7 and keep trac and current setup for now. 18:17:55 <nirik> #info will work on progit to groom it to replace hosted someday when it grows up. 18:18:18 <nirik> ok, any other discussion items before we move on to the 'learn about...' section? 18:19:03 <smooge> I do have a question 18:19:17 <nirik> fire away. ;) 18:19:28 <smooge> will we be putting the trac we use on the el7 boxes in epel or private hosted? 18:19:43 <nirik> I was assuming epel7... 18:19:53 <nirik> no real reason not to IMHO. 18:20:16 <smooge> OK but I saw that there were massive updates to trac from what we are using.. I didn't know if we later updated to that trac what the effect would be 18:20:33 <smooge> eg the mediawiki doom 18:20:50 <nirik> well, not sure how massive it is really... they changed their numbering... 0.11, then 0.12, then 1.0 18:21:09 <nirik> 1.x where x is odd is devel release, even is 'stable' release. 18:21:09 <smooge> or we make that some one else's problem if they want to update it (eg pingou because he didn't check into gobby) 18:21:50 <pingou> smooge: I am actually :) 18:21:55 <nirik> well, from 0.12 to 1.0 is not much: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracUpgrade#to1.0 18:22:12 <nirik> from 1.0 to 1.2? we don't know. they were talking about releasing 1.2 later this year sometime and try and do yearly releases. 18:23:12 <oddshocks> The devel/stable numbering system sounds odd to me :P 18:23:13 <nirik> so, I think it's ok to put 1.0 in epel7 as 'trac' and then if 1.2 is too much pain, we can make trac12, but hopefully we can just update a 18:23:40 <smooge> ok sorry to sidetrack this. I just wanted to get an idea of me to package it as track012 18:24:13 <nirik> smooge: yeah, I think the only reason we would do that is if they were going to keep maintaining it... which it sounds like... they are not. 18:24:26 <nirik> oddshocks: the kernel used to do that, but then abandoned it. ;) 18:24:36 <smooge> of course not 18:24:45 * oddshocks TIL 18:25:09 <nirik> #topic Learn about.... "the-new-hotness" 18:25:14 <nirik> threebean: you're up. ;) 18:25:16 <threebean> yay 18:25:33 <threebean> So, 'the-new-hotness' is one of the three parts of our new upstream release monitoring setup 18:25:45 <threebean> The project page is here https://github.com/fedora-infra/the-new-hotness/ 18:26:20 <threebean> And, in short, it's the "Fedora-specific" cohort to the "distro-agnostic" release-monitoring.org (called anitya) 18:26:48 <pingou> \ó/ 18:26:56 <threebean> the-new-hotness, like the fedbadges backend and the notifications backend, is a fedmsg 'consumer' plugin that runs as a part of the fedmsg-hub daemon. 18:27:08 * oddshocks thinks threebean just likes saying "the-new-hotness" 18:27:12 <threebean> I do 18:27:17 <oddshocks> :) 18:27:20 <threebean> It is.. fun. :) 18:27:28 <pbrobinson> :-P 18:27:29 <nirik> if something else hot comes along will this be the old hotness? sorry 18:27:40 <threebean> I can't wait.. 18:27:40 <nirik> :) 18:27:43 <dgilmore> nirik: the older new hotness 18:28:08 <threebean> at its core, this thing takes care of four distinct tasks: https://github.com/fedora-infra/the-new-hotness/blob/develop/hotness/consum… 18:28:32 <threebean> 1) when anitya notices a new upstream release is available, we try to file a ticket in bugzilla if pkgdb says its okay. 18:28:50 <threebean> if that succeeds, kick off a scratch build if possible and remember the task id. 18:29:16 <threebean> 2) when koji tasks complete, if we were the one to kick them off in the first place, then go followup on the bug we previously filed with the status of that 18:29:41 <threebean> 3) when "real" koji builds complete for rawhide, followup on open bugs if we can find them. 18:30:06 <threebean> 4) when a new package is added to pkgdb, try to add it to anitya with some reasonable defaults. 18:30:20 * mclasen_ considers any automated process that ends in filing a bug to be suspect 18:30:31 * jsmith saw steps 1-3 work today, and was very pleased with the results :-) 18:31:10 <jsmith> mclasen_: In many cases, there's already going to be an open bug saying that a new release version is available -- this just adds to that ticket, if it can find it 18:32:08 <threebean> mclasen_: sure, and we provide a flag in pkgdb to disable this whole process. it is the 'monitoring' tab on the upper right-hand side of the package view page. 18:32:11 <nirik> Ideally it would be nice if we could use our staging koji for the scratch builds... but we need to make that work again and add some arm builders to it first 18:33:09 <lmacken> #4, awesome. 18:33:22 <dgilmore> nirik: it would be kinda nice for it to commit to staging git and lookaside and do a real build 18:33:33 <threebean> I'd add that there are some dev instructions in the README and defaults that point at https://partner-bugzilla.redhat.com, so you can hack on it without fear of accidentally filing real bugs on the production bugzilla. https://raw.githubusercontent.com/fedora-infra/the-new-hotness/develop/READ… 18:33:39 <dgilmore> nirik: then we will have content to test composes in stage 18:33:42 <nirik> dgilmore: yeah, even better 18:34:23 <dgilmore> the way we setup staging its easy to get builds 18:34:27 <nirik> or perhaps it could do both... stg stuff and the current prod stuff... most people wouldn't need to care about the stg part, but we could use that for test composes, etc 18:34:31 <dgilmore> but there is nothing for doing composing 18:35:26 <dgilmore> anyway just an idea 18:35:57 <threebean> yeah, auto-committing to dist-git (staging or not) might be sticky. 18:36:01 <pingou> threebean: did we turn off the stg instance? 18:36:06 <pingou> of the-new-hotness 18:36:19 <threebean> in that, we still rely on packagers to review the content of new upstream releases. what if the license changes? what if new non-free content is included, etc.. 18:36:37 <dgilmore> threebean: sure 18:36:52 <threebean> pingou: it is technically still running, it is just not listening to the production messages from anitya anymore.. and is therefore not doing anything. 18:37:02 <pingou> ok 18:37:52 <threebean> re-establishing that link would just involve uncommenting this block https://infrastructure.fedoraproject.org/cgit/ansible.git/tree/roles/hotnes… 18:38:19 * langdon just came here to say "dock-ah" 18:38:24 <nirik> ha. 18:38:55 <smooge> sorry not enough walsh in it 18:39:01 <smooge> please try again 18:39:15 <nirik> threebean: some more thoughts (might be too hard): could we have it add new stuff to packages? instead of the packages app regening? or I guess that could be done by revamping packages... 18:39:47 <threebean> yeah, that might start clustering too many varied responsibilities in this one service (imo) 18:39:54 <pingou> +1 there 18:39:55 * nirik nods 18:40:03 <threebean> we could rename it from the-new-hotness to the-do-all-the-things 18:40:13 <threebean> :P 18:40:18 <nirik> it's the new * 18:40:20 <pingou> but threebean were pondering how we could revamp packages and update it via fedmsg 18:40:21 <threebean> ha 18:40:24 <pingou> 42? 18:40:24 * threebean nods 18:40:36 <threebean> yeah, revamped fedora-packages should probably work in a similar way 18:40:36 <oddshocks> It's the Unix philosophy, after all, to create a program to do everything! 18:40:41 <pbrobinson> or all-the-shit ;-) 18:41:02 <threebean> we do have some open bugs, if people are interesting in hacking on it: https://github.com/fedora-infra/the-new-hotness/issues/ 18:41:03 <nirik> anyhow, thanks threebean. Anything else on this app? 18:41:13 <nirik> cool, 18:41:21 <threebean> this one is particularly nasty, and needs fixed sooner than later https://github.com/fedora-infra/the-new-hotness/issues/29 18:41:32 <pingou> http://fedoraproject.org/easyfix/ we have some on github 18:41:44 <threebean> i.e., we can report to packagers that the scratch build is all good, when really it mistakenly is a rebuild of an old version. 18:41:59 <nirik> yeah, nasty corner case 18:42:06 <threebean> (that's all I have) 18:42:18 <pingou> threebean: we could do a fedpkg source just after getting the spec file and see if it is different from the once we get after updating the spec 18:42:37 <pingou> or faster: check the content of the sources file 18:43:01 <nirik> well, the sources will have the old/current one always right? 18:43:01 <pingou> and see if the new sources are different from the content of the current sources file 18:43:05 <threebean> pingou: +1. that's the best approach I've got too. a hash of the sources. 18:43:09 <nirik> yeah. 18:43:34 <threebean> as mentioned in the ticket, github tarballs always have different hash sums, since they're generated on demand. which.. messes all that up. 18:43:44 <nirik> ah github, ;( 18:43:57 <threebean> a corner case for the corner case. 18:44:02 <puiterwijk> threebean: it gets better... they even have different sizes, though the content is the same! :D 18:44:06 <nirik> sharp corner. ;) 18:44:25 <nirik> reproducability? naw. don't need that 18:44:32 <pingou> threebean: ignore github ? :) 18:44:39 <nirik> I guess you could unpack it and diff -Nur ? :) 18:44:48 * threebean notes that. 18:45:44 <nirik> big hassle tho. I guess only for github 18:45:57 <nirik> ok, on to... 18:46:01 <nirik> #topic Open Floor 18:46:19 <dgilmore> nirik: I have one thing 18:46:19 <nirik> the floor is open. Just like Fedora and our default. :) 18:46:34 <nirik> go dgilmore 18:46:51 <dgilmore> I have built a docker base image for arm 18:47:16 <dgilmore> and as the upstream docker registry does not support arches 18:47:22 <nirik> :( 18:49:04 <dgilmore> I am thinking of setting up a registry 18:49:05 <nirik> you are suggesting we run a registry? 18:49:10 <dgilmore> since its all open source 18:49:20 <nirik> ok. Not at all sure whats involved there. I think it's actually a flask app 18:49:23 <dgilmore> I think it would be nice for use to do so 18:49:42 <dgilmore> but only for arm and maybe other arches if teh secondaries get support 18:49:59 <nirik> is there any plan for i686 ones? 18:50:09 <dgilmore> I probably can not commit to maintaining it. but maybe we can get someone to 18:50:16 <dgilmore> nirik: I think we shoudl 18:50:18 <dgilmore> should 18:50:44 <dgilmore> maybe we support x86_64 also, but still push things to upstream also 18:50:44 <nirik> ok. I'd say bring it up on the list and we can see if we can find someone to investigate it and propose a RFR, etc. 18:50:50 * nirik nods. yeah. 18:50:54 <dgilmore> It needs some investigation 18:51:01 <nirik> doesn't upstream have some other weird stuff like no signing? 18:51:05 <dgilmore> just wanted to put the idea out there 18:51:20 <dgilmore> not really sure 18:51:51 <dgilmore> upstream is kinda weird 18:51:58 <dgilmore> and we should be part of it 18:52:07 <nirik> ok. cool. 18:52:15 <dgilmore> and maybe us doing something will get them to be better 18:52:18 <nirik> #info we should investigate doing a docker registery. 18:52:42 <threebean> Unrelated question: When is the alpha freeze expected to lift? 18:52:57 <jsmith> threebean: When it's fully baked?!? 18:53:00 * jsmith ducks and hides 18:53:02 <langdon> nirik, (et al) .. envs&stacks is having much discussion about docker-build & docker-reg .. just fyi 18:53:30 <nirik> threebean: well, next wed if we ship next tuesday, but thats still up in the air. ;( 18:53:48 <nirik> langdon: cool. Good to know. Perhaps someone from there could tell us whats involved in running a registery? 18:54:20 <nirik> ok, anything else open floor wise? 18:54:28 <pingou> I'll be afk next week 18:54:32 <pingou> most of the week 18:54:47 <pingou> available by phone and I'll probably check my emails once or twice :) 18:54:48 <nirik> cool. :) enjoy. 18:54:52 <threebean> pingou: enjoy! :) 18:54:57 <pingou> will do :) 18:55:08 <langdon> nirik, well.. i think there are a lot of considerations on the 'what does it do" and "what is it for" ... as well as the "running it" 18:55:50 <nirik> langdon: indeed. we definitely want stakeholders involved. I mean we could set it up perhaps and let them decide other parts, but sometimes setting up feeds into what you can or can't do after it's setup 18:56:03 <langdon> nirik, right 18:56:34 <nirik> cool. 18:56:41 <nirik> ok, thanks for coming everyone! 18:56:43 <dgilmore> langdon: well we would want to do something to support what upstream doesn't 18:56:43 <nirik> #endmeeting

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Summary/Minutes from today's FPC Meeting (YYYY-MM-DD 17:00 - 18:55 UTC)
by James Antill 05 Mar '15

05 Mar '15

====================== #fedora-meeting-1: fpc ====================== Meeting started by geppetto at 17:00:35 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2015-03-05/fpc.2015-03-05… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (geppetto, 17:00:36) * Schedule (geppetto, 17:06:27) * LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/packaging/2015-March/010493.html (geppetto, 17:06:30) * Also adding 505 to that (geppetto, 17:06:45) * #506 Guideline Draft: Service First-Time Setup (geppetto, 17:07:14) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/506 (geppetto, 17:07:19) * #507 Bundled library exception request: acme files in tonto (geppetto, 17:08:24) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/507 (geppetto, 17:08:29) * LINK: https://codesearch.debian.net/results/Acme.IntHashtable/page_0 (tibbs|w, 17:17:44) * LINK: https://codesearch.debian.net/results/Acme.JPM/page_0 is the list. (tibbs|w, 17:21:43) * ACTION: Temporary exception until F23 to bundle Acme in tonto, leamas to speak to other packages bundling Acme stuff. (+1:5, 0:0, -1:0) (geppetto, 17:33:16) * #505 Bundling exception request: osbaldeston BMP library in tonto (geppetto, 17:33:40) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/505 (geppetto, 17:33:51) * LINK: http://ur1.ca/jusnp (leamas, 17:36:21) * LINK: http://ur1.ca/jusnu (leamas, 17:36:42) * LINK: http://ur1.ca/juso1 (leamas, 17:37:14) * LINK: http://lgdzjc.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/JCSystem/src/com/tjsoft/util/io/PCBi… has copyright of 2003 and different author... (tomspur, 17:44:33) * ACTION: leamas Bundling exception granted, but you need to speak with upstream and legal to see if we can ship it at all (+1:5, 0:0, -1:0) (geppetto, 17:51:26) * #500 Request for bundling exception: numptyphysics bundles Box2D = 2.0.1 (geppetto, 17:51:48) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/500 (geppetto, 17:51:52) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/221 (geppetto, 17:54:03) * LINK: https://github.com/harmattan/numptyphysics (limburgher, 18:01:31) * ACTION: limburgher Request for bundling exception: numptyphysics bundles Box2D = 2.0.1 (+1:5, 0:0, -1:0) (geppetto, 18:12:09) * #506 Guideline Draft: Service First-Time Setup (geppetto, 18:12:26) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/506 (geppetto, 18:12:30) * ACTION: sgallagh Need to solve the localhost problem (geppetto, 18:36:46) * ACTION: sgallagh include a better "Here's what you have to do" section. (geppetto, 18:41:17) * #502 Temporary exception for DHCP being built using bundled BIND libraries in Fedora 22+ (geppetto, 18:42:00) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/502 (geppetto, 18:42:06) * ACTION: CAn just close this, as it doesn't involve us anymore. (geppetto, 18:42:32) * Open Floor (geppetto, 18:42:44) Meeting ended at 18:54:11 UTC. Action Items ------------ * Temporary exception until F23 to bundle Acme in tonto, leamas to speak to other packages bundling Acme stuff. (+1:5, 0:0, -1:0) * leamas Bundling exception granted, but you need to speak with upstream and legal to see if we can ship it at all (+1:5, 0:0, -1:0) * limburgher Request for bundling exception: numptyphysics bundles Box2D = 2.0.1 (+1:5, 0:0, -1:0) * sgallagh Need to solve the localhost problem * sgallagh include a better "Here's what you have to do" section. * CAn just close this, as it doesn't involve us anymore. Action Items, by person ----------------------- * leamas * Temporary exception until F23 to bundle Acme in tonto, leamas to speak to other packages bundling Acme stuff. (+1:5, 0:0, -1:0) * leamas Bundling exception granted, but you need to speak with upstream and legal to see if we can ship it at all (+1:5, 0:0, -1:0) * limburgher * limburgher Request for bundling exception: numptyphysics bundles Box2D = 2.0.1 (+1:5, 0:0, -1:0) * sgallagh * sgallagh Need to solve the localhost problem * sgallagh include a better "Here's what you have to do" section. * **UNASSIGNED** * CAn just close this, as it doesn't involve us anymore. People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * geppetto (139) * tibbs|w (101) * sgallagh (60) * limburgher (37) * leamas (22) * orionp (18) * tomspur (13) * zodbot (7) * tomspur__ (3) * tomspur_ (2) * tibbs (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Latam ambassadors meeting 2015-03-04
by Eduardo Javier Echeverria Alvarado 04 Mar '15

04 Mar '15

Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-03-04/latam_ambassador… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-03-04/latam_ambassador… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-03-04/latam_ambassador…

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EMEA ambassadors meeting minutes 2015-03-04
by Giannis Konstantinidis 04 Mar '15

04 Mar '15

Hi fellow ambassadors, we've just had a regular EMEA meeting, it lasted more than an hour and 11 ambassadors attended. See the meeting minutes/full log below for more info: Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-03-04/emea_ambassadors… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-03-04/emea_ambassadors… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-03-04/emea_ambassadors… See you again in two weeks time :) -- Giannis Konstantinidis giannis(a)konstantinidis.cc http://konstantinidis.cc giannisk on irc.freenode.net

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[meeting] RDO packaging meeting minutes (2015-03-04)
by Alan Pevec 04 Mar '15

04 Mar '15

======================================== #rdo: RDO packaging meeting (2015-03-04) ======================================== Meeting started by apevec at 15:02:50 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/rdo/2015-03-04/rdo.2015-03-04-15.02.log.ht… . Meeting summary --------------- * roll call (apevec, 15:03:07) * review action items (apevec, 15:06:45) * LINK: https://review.openstack.org/160845 and https://review.openstack.org/159548 (jpena, 15:10:07) * EL6 Juno status (apevec, 15:23:24) * from alphacc published a repo (self contained , epel not needed) : http://linuxsoft.cern.ch/tmp/iaas6-juno-devel/ we are using it for our I -> J test migration, including all srpm (nova, ceilometer) (apevec, 15:23:42) * EL6 clients are being imported into CBS (number80, 15:24:04) * ACTION: alphacc will send spec diffs to the rdo-list (apevec, 15:24:14) * ACTION: hguemar move forward with CBS build targets (number80, 15:25:58) * RDO Kilo prep (apevec, 15:27:01) * ACTION: jruzicka to create rdopkg "Is this dep present in RDO? At which version?" subcommand (apevec, 15:34:01) * ACTION: apevec to publish rdo-release-kilo-0.rpm for bootstraping RDO Kilo (apevec, 15:36:34) * Delorean specs (apevec, 15:38:06) * ACTION: add jruzicka to https://github.com/orgs/openstack-packages/teams/owners (apevec, 15:46:05) * ACTION: apevec to document all steps for the initial Delorean package creation (apevec, 15:47:44) * trunk.rdoproject.org DNS (apevec, 15:50:06) * LINK: http://trunk.rdoproject.org/f21/current/ (apevec, 15:50:39) * LINK: http://trunk.rdoproject.org/centos70/current/ (apevec, 15:50:49) * LINK: https://openstack.redhat.com/packaging/rdo-packaging.html#_differences_betw… (jruzicka, 15:51:22) * LINK: http://209.132.178.33/repos/report.html (jruzicka, 15:51:29) * LINK: http://trunk.rdoproject.org/f21/report.html (apevec, 15:52:11) * LINK: http://trunk.rdoproject.org/centos70/report.html (apevec, 15:52:22) * open floor (apevec, 15:54:28) Meeting ended at 15:57:34 UTC. Action Items ------------ * alphacc will send spec diffs to the rdo-list * hguemar move forward with CBS build targets * jruzicka to create rdopkg "Is this dep present in RDO? At which version?" subcommand * apevec to publish rdo-release-kilo-0.rpm for bootstraping RDO Kilo * add jruzicka to https://github.com/orgs/openstack-packages/teams/owners * apevec to document all steps for the initial Delorean package creation Action Items, by person ----------------------- * alphacc * alphacc will send spec diffs to the rdo-list * apevec * apevec to publish rdo-release-kilo-0.rpm for bootstraping RDO Kilo * apevec to document all steps for the initial Delorean package creation * jruzicka * jruzicka to create rdopkg "Is this dep present in RDO? At which version?" subcommand * add jruzicka to https://github.com/orgs/openstack-packages/teams/owners * **UNASSIGNED** * hguemar move forward with CBS build targets People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * apevec (111) * jruzicka (46) * number80 (18) * jpena (9) * eggmaster (5) * alphacc (4) * chandankumar (4) * Rodrigo_US (4) * xaeth (3) * social (3) * zodbot (3) * rbowen (2) * gchamoul (2) * Egyptian[Home] (1) * thrash (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Workstation WG Recap 2015-Mar-04
by Paul W. Frields 04 Mar '15

04 Mar '15

Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-03-04/workstation.2015… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-03-04/workstation.2015… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-03-04/workstation.2015… * * * ====================================== #fedora-meeting: Fedora Workstation WG ====================================== Meeting started by stickster at 16:01:23 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-03-04/workstation.2015… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll call! (stickster, 16:01:33) * Privacy policy (stickster, 16:07:34) * ACTION: stickster Pull together relevant issues for current privacy policy, draft changes somewhere public (stickster, 16:16:42) * We'll also figure out whether this needs to be part of the legal doc as opposed to a more generic information page (stickster, 16:17:29) * F22 Alpha release announcement (stickster, 16:18:59) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F22_Alpha_release_announcement (stickster, 16:19:05) * stickster threw some notes into the page for Workstation, and mclasen_ was editing (stickster, 16:19:27) * If anyone else has edits, have at it :-) (stickster, 16:21:53) * Visual issues (stickster, 16:22:58) * ACTION: ryanlerch Add category to wiki page, get Design team choices together for supplemental, and consult with the WG folks for package changes needed (stickster, 16:36:55) * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/WallpapersCleanup (stickster, 16:37:09) * Third party repos (stickster, 16:39:45) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DisabledRepoSupport (stickster, 16:40:11) * stickster posted Change page as suggested in thread (stickster, 16:40:19) * ACTION: sgallagh rdieter Ask for clarification on third party policy in FESCo meeting (stickster, 17:03:12) Meeting ended at 17:03:31 UTC. Action Items ------------ * stickster Pull together relevant issues for current privacy policy, draft changes somewhere public * ryanlerch Add category to wiki page, get Design team choices together for supplemental, and consult with the WG folks for package changes needed * sgallagh rdieter Ask for clarification on third party policy in FESCo meeting Action Items, by person ----------------------- * rdieter * sgallagh rdieter Ask for clarification on third party policy in FESCo meeting * ryanlerch * ryanlerch Add category to wiki page, get Design team choices together for supplemental, and consult with the WG folks for package changes needed * sgallagh * sgallagh rdieter Ask for clarification on third party policy in FESCo meeting * stickster * stickster Pull together relevant issues for current privacy policy, draft changes somewhere public * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * stickster (77) * mclasen_ (26) * rdieter (21) * jwb (21) * ryanlerch (15) * cschalle (14) * sgallagh (14) * kalev (10) * nirik (4) * zodbot (4) * jsmith (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com

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Re: REMINDER: Weekly Gluster Community meeting in 50 mins
by Justin Clift 04 Mar '15

04 Mar '15

On 4 Mar 2015, at 11:11, Justin Clift <justin(a)gluster.org> wrote: > Hi all, > > In about 50 minutes the regular weekly Gluster Community IRC meeting > begins. Everyone is welcome to join in. :) > > Meeting details: > > * Location: #gluster-meeting on Freenode IRC > * Date: every Wednesday > * Time: 12:00 UTC, 13:00 CET (in your terminal, run: date -d "12:00 UTC") > * Agenda: https://public.pad.fsfe.org/p/gluster-community-meetings Thanks everyone for attending. Pretty active meeting with a bunch of people. :) Lets see if we can get the spurious failure count down significantly by next meeting. :) Meeting Summary: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/gluster-meeting/2015-03-04/gluster-meeting… Full Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/gluster-meeting/2015-03-04/gluster-meeting… Regards and best wishes, Justin Clift -- GlusterFS - http://www.gluster.org An open source, distributed file system scaling to several petabytes, and handling thousands of clients. My personal twitter: twitter.com/realjustinclift

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I18N meeting minutes 2015-03-04
by pravin.d.s＠gmail.com 04 Mar '15

04 Mar '15

Hi All, We had nice i18n meeting today. Following are minutes: ===================== #fedora-meeting: i18n ===================== Meeting started by pravins at 06:00:02 UTC. The full logs are available athttp://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-03-04/i18n.2015-03-0… . Meeting summary --------------- * agenda and roll call (pravins, 06:00:09) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2015-03-04 (pravins, 06:00:12) * Upcoming schedule (pravins, 06:01:39) * 2015-03-10 Alpha Release (pravins, 06:01:45) * 2015-03-24 Software Translation Deadline (pravins, 06:01:46) * 2015-03-31 Beta Freeze (pravins, 06:01:46) * Change Checkpoint: 100% Code Complete Deadline (pravins, 06:01:46) * Outstanding topic (pravins, 06:03:33) * #36: gnome redesign plans for control-center Region and Languages (i18n(a)lists.fedoraproject.org) (pravins, 06:03:36) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/36 (pravins, 06:03:39) * Outstanding task (pravins, 06:09:55) * #42: Fedora 22 i18n test day (tagoh) (pravins, 06:09:58) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/42 (pravins, 06:10:01) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Odia (pravins, 06:12:40) * LINK: http://paste.fedoraproject.org/193121/54498961/ <- something like that could be used to check whether the width and printable, upper, lower, ... has changed as intended. (mfabian, 06:18:58) * AGREED: to skip glibc_unicode7 test case from test day as it is just re-running some scripts. (pravins, 06:23:10) * ACTION: if any test case is language specific, good to add tags before it. (pravins, 06:34:51) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-badges/ticket/360 (pravins, 06:35:36) * New topics (pravins, 06:38:30) * #40: Fedora 22 planning (pravins) (pravins, 06:38:36) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/40 (pravins, 06:38:41) * ACTION: all change proposal owners to update Change proposal page for present status. (pravins, 06:41:47) * #43: I18n FAD in 2015 (pravins) (pravins, 06:42:24) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/43 (pravins, 06:42:27) * #44: Fedora badge for i18n team member (pnemade) (pravins, 06:44:25) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/44 (pravins, 06:44:29) * ACTION: pravins to close #44 ticket. (pravins, 06:46:47) * New tasks (pravins, 06:46:53) * #45: Docs beat for Fedora 22 (pravins) (pravins, 06:46:59) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/45 (pravins, 06:47:05) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_I18n_Beat (tagoh_, 06:48:58) * ACTION: pravins to rename update FAD name. (pravins, 06:51:00) * #46: Wiki update required for yum to dnf (pravins) (pravins, 06:54:12) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/46 (pravins, 06:54:12) * Open Floor (pravins, 06:55:25) Meeting ended at 07:03:00 UTC. Action Items ------------ * if any test case is language specific, good to add tags before it. * all change proposal owners to update Change proposal page for present status. * pravins to close #44 ticket. * pravins to rename update FAD name. Action Items, by person ----------------------- * pravins * pravins to close #44 ticket. * pravins to rename update FAD name. * **UNASSIGNED** * if any test case is language specific, good to add tags before it. * all change proposal owners to update Change proposal page for present status. People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * pravins (132) * juhp (19) * mfabian (17) * anish_ (12) * tagoh_ (10) * bochecha (9) * paragan (9) * zodbot (3) * smaitra (2) * epico (2) * fujiwarat (2) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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