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#fedora-meeting-3: Meeting of the Modularity Working Group (once every two weeks)
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Meeting started by nils at 14:01:09 UTC. The full logs are available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-3/2017-09-05/modularity_wg…
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Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (nils, 14:01:19)
* Agenda (nils, 14:03:12)
* Open Floor (nils, 14:06:34)
* ACTION: langdon to create an etherpad for contribution to report
(langdon, 14:16:35)
* ACTION: langdon to follow up with mary and martin for feedback
report (langdon, 14:17:50)
* ACTION: langdon send report to devel@ (langdon, 14:17:57)
* LINK: https://board.net/p/modularity-flock-report modularity flock
report (langdon, 14:18:24)
Meeting ended at 14:24:44 UTC.
Action Items
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* langdon to create an etherpad for contribution to report
* langdon to follow up with mary and martin for feedback report
* langdon send report to devel@
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* langdon
* langdon to create an etherpad for contribution to report
* langdon to follow up with mary and martin for feedback report
* langdon send report to devel@
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* contyk (14)
* zodbot (12)
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* mikedep333 (2)
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#fedora-meeting-1: Fedora-fr
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Meeting started by eseyman at 18:34:16 UTC. The full logs are available
at
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Meeting summary
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* Association Borsalinux-fr (eseyman, 18:35:24)
* les premiers chiffons sont partis (eseyman, 18:37:16)
* Fedora-Fr.org (eseyman, 18:38:01)
* Marketing (eseyman, 18:39:35)
* Documentation (eseyman, 18:44:16)
* beaucoup de travail sur la documentation fr; les volontaires sont
les bienvenus (eseyman, 18:50:17)
* Traduction (eseyman, 18:50:33)
* Projet Fedora (eseyman, 18:51:48)
* Flock vient de se terminer (eseyman, 18:52:00)
* Premier samedi à la Cité des Sciences (eseyman, 18:53:53)
* Discussion générales (eseyman, 18:55:36)
Meeting ended at 18:59:48 UTC.
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* (none)
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* eseyman (54)
* Nicosss (14)
* nobrakal (12)
* zodbot (7)
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#fedora-blocker-review: F27-blocker-review
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Meeting started by adamw at 16:02:41 UTC. The full logs are available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2017-09-04/f27-bloc…
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Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (adamw, 16:02:41)
* Introduction (adamw, 16:06:19)
* Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and
nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor
the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have
bugs. (adamw, 16:06:20)
* We'll be following the process outlined at: (adamw, 16:06:20)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
(adamw, 16:06:21)
* The bugs up for review today are available at: (adamw, 16:06:21)
* LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (adamw,
16:06:23)
* The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (adamw,
16:06:27)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_27_Alpha_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:06:29)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_27_Beta_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:06:31)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_27_Final_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:06:33)
* 8 Proposed Beta Blockers (adamw, 16:07:04)
* 5 Accepted Beta Blockers (adamw, 16:07:04)
* 3 Proposed Final Blockers (adamw, 16:07:18)
* 5 Accepted Final Blockers (adamw, 16:07:19)
* kparal will secretariarariariariariari(INFINITE LOOP DETECTED)alize
(adamw, 16:09:01)
* (1485831) shim package is not available, installation fails (adamw,
16:10:53)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1485831 (adamw,
16:10:53)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, ON_QA (adamw, 16:10:53)
* already fixed in recent composes (adamw, 16:11:01)
* (1487856) UEFI installs fail to boot with anaconda-27.20-1 (due to EFI
executable name mismatch) (adamw, 16:12:02)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1487856 (adamw,
16:12:02)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, MODIFIED (adamw, 16:12:02)
* AGREED: 1487856 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - violates Alpha "Expected
installed system boot behavior" requirements for some, possibly all,
UEFI installs (adamw, 16:16:24)
* (1477916) Workstation boot.iso is 1.8 GB, seems to be ostree iso
(adamw, 16:16:34)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1477916 (adamw,
16:16:34)
* Proposed Blocker, distribution, NEW (adamw, 16:16:34)
* AGREED: 1477916 - punt (delay decision) - we did not yet get around
to testing this in more detail or drafting a revised criterion, so
we will punt (delay) this one again and try to get it done this week
(adamw, 16:31:58)
* (1455561) ipa-server-install fails to obtain RA certificate from CA
(CA_UNREACHABLE) (adamw, 16:32:38)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1455561 (adamw,
16:32:38)
* Proposed Blocker, freeipa, POST (adamw, 16:32:39)
* AGREED: 1455561 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - clear violation of
"Release-blocking roles and the supported role configuration
interfaces must meet the core functional Role Definition
Requirements to the extent that supported roles can be successfully
deployed..." for the release-blocking 'domain controller' role
(adamw, 16:39:20)
* (1487305) Raspberry Pi 3: run-initial-setup hangs (adamw, 16:40:44)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1487305 (adamw,
16:40:44)
* Proposed Blocker, initial-setup, NEW (adamw, 16:40:44)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/Supported_Platforms
(adamw, 16:43:21)
* AGREED: 1487305 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - this sounds like a
violation of Alpha criterion "A working mechanism to create a user
account must be clearly presented during installation and/or first
boot of the installed system" for Raspberry Pi 3, which is a
supported ARM platform for F27. If further testing indicates it's
not so clear-cut, we will revisit (adamw, 16:53:16)
* (1484155) rdma-core excluding armhfp breaks many, many dep chains
(adamw, 16:53:27)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1484155 (adamw,
16:53:28)
* Proposed Blocker, rdma-core, NEW (adamw, 16:53:28)
* this is pretty much solved now, at least to the point where it isn't
blocking composes or obviously breaking critical functionality any
more (adamw, 16:54:13)
* we will un-propose or close the bug (adamw, 16:54:21)
* (1484566) Multiple 'map' denials prevent Cockpit from working (adamw,
16:55:32)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1484566 (adamw,
16:55:33)
* Proposed Blocker, selinux-policy-targeted, MODIFIED (adamw,
16:55:33)
* AGREED: 1484566 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - clear violation of Alpha
criterion "Unless explicitly specified otherwise, after system
installation the Cockpit web management interface must be running
and accessible on its default port (9090)" (adamw, 17:00:57)
* (1484569) 'map' denials prevent PostgreSQL starting (adamw, 17:01:06)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1484569 (adamw,
17:01:06)
* Proposed Blocker, selinux-policy-targeted, MODIFIED (adamw,
17:01:06)
* per openQA tests of Fedora-27-20170903.n.0 , this is now fixed
(adamw, 17:02:47)
* bug will be closed (adamw, 17:03:24)
* moving on to proposed Final blockers... (adamw, 17:05:45)
* (1486002) grub2-mkconfig does not work if xen.gz is installed.
(adamw, 17:05:49)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1486002 (adamw,
17:05:49)
* Proposed Blocker, grub2, NEW (adamw, 17:05:49)
* AGREED: 1486002 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - we're happy to accept
Konrad's assertion that this violates the Final criterion "The
release must boot successfully as Xen DomU with releases providing a
functional, supported Xen Dom0 and widely used cloud providers
utilizing Xen" (adamw, 17:15:58)
* (1484575) Filesystem resizing during install fails since 2.1.10
(likely due to removal of unconditional filesystem check) (adamw,
17:16:08)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1484575 (adamw,
17:16:08)
* Proposed Blocker, python-blivet, POST (adamw, 17:16:08)
* AGREED: 1486002 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - clear violation of Final
criterion "Any installer mechanism for resizing storage volumes must
correctly attempt the requested operation" (adamw, 17:24:26)
* (1484908) xenconsole does want to start (adamw, 17:24:39)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1484908 (adamw,
17:24:39)
* Proposed Blocker, xen, NEW (adamw, 17:24:39)
* AGREED: 1484908 - punt (delay decision) - it's not clear whether
this actually violates the criterion, so we will request a more
detailed explanation from Konrad (adamw, 17:34:30)
* Open floor (adamw, 17:35:32)
* #1486002 was incorrectly agreed as AcceptedBlocker (Beta), it was in
fact AcceptedBlocker (Final) (adamw, 17:35:37)
Meeting ended at 17:43:32 UTC.
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* kparal (56)
* pschindl_wfh (17)
* dominicpg (15)
* Southern_Gentlem (14)
* zodbot (11)
* mkolman (9)
* sgallagh (5)
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#fedora-meeting: Fedora QA meeting
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Meeting started by adamw at 15:01:45 UTC. The full logs are available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2017-09-04/fedora-qa.2017-…
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Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (adamw, 15:01:53)
* Previous meeting follow-up (adamw, 15:09:03)
* "sumantro to check in with design team and make sure wallpapers will
be available in time for Beta and Final" - sumantro says he did
this, and they promised they'll be in shape this time (adamw,
15:10:47)
* "sumantro to send out reminder about LxQT test day" - he did that,
and the event has concluded (adamw, 15:11:23)
* "sumantro to contact i18n team to make sure their regular test days
are being planned, and atomic/cloud team" - he definitely checked in
with g11n team and they're on the same page, not sure about
atomic/cloud (adamw, 15:11:50)
* Fedora 27 status (adamw, 15:18:53)
* Beta freeze is at 00:00 UTC tonight (00:00 on 2017-09-05) (adamw,
15:19:26)
* currently composes are succeeding, but with one major bug -
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1487856 prevents all
UEFI installs from booting properly - and several other blocker bugs
(e.g. FreeIPA issues) (adamw, 15:20:32)
* further testing beyond openQA may have been hampered by the frequent
compose failures and broken composes till now (adamw, 15:21:57)
* for now, the planned schedule still holds, which means we need to do
a lot of testing to get up to the Beta criteria by Beta go/no-go on
2017-09-14 (adamw, 15:22:43)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1483667
(dominicpg, 15:31:31)
* Kernel rebase testing plan (adamw, 15:41:18)
* new upstream kernel releases are pushed into stable Fedora releases,
at present. This can be a source of regressions (adamw, 15:42:10)
* Plan is to run a Test Day event for each new kernel release to try
and identify and fix problems before they get out into the stable
releases (adamw, 15:42:42)
* sumantro will be co-ordinating this with the kernel team, the Test
Day will involve running the kernel test suite (see
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/KernelTestingInitiative ) and
generally checking for issues (adamw, 15:43:33)
* Activity meeting plan (adamw, 15:47:26)
* sumantro says that many of the newer folks he's mentoring see this
meeting as more of an administrative/discussion meeting, and don't
really want to jump in with practical questions etc. (adamw,
15:48:07)
* so he proposes having a regular meeting (I think the idea was
monthly) focused on practical testing activity, selecting specific
things that need testing at the time and focusing on those (adamw,
15:49:02)
* Open floor (adamw, 15:53:41)
* Heroes of Fedora 26 is not done yet, sumantro should be working on
it soon (adamw, 15:56:14)
Meeting ended at 16:01:07 UTC.
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* dominicpg (19)
* tenk (14)
* kparal (12)
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#fedora-meeting: FESCO (2017-09-01)
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Meeting started by jforbes at 16:02:15 UTC. The full logs are available
at
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Meeting summary
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* init process (jforbes, 16:02:16)
* #1761 Update of "Fedora Release Live Cycle" and "Changes / Policy"
(jforbes, 16:06:01)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1761 (jforbes, 16:06:02)
* maxamillion forgot to update tickets from last week, meeting minutes
here:
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/fesco/fesco.2017-08-25-16.00.html
.... issues will be updated (maxamillion, 16:06:40)
* AGREED: Update of "Fedora Release Live Cycle" and "Changes / Policy"
is approved (+8,0,-0) (jforbes, 16:16:58)
* #1765 Proposed Fedora 28 schedule (jforbes, 16:17:13)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1765 (jforbes, 16:17:13)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1767 (jforbes, 16:19:01)
* #1767 F28 Self Contained Changes (jforbes, 16:27:34)
* AGREED: defrer until either a) we know the toolchain is ready (ie,
bodhi is using pungi) or b) after jan 30th (+8,0,-0) (jforbes,
16:40:22)
* #1768 fesco input for Outreachy projects (jforbes, 16:40:38)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1768 (jforbes, 16:40:39)
* AGREED: FESCo will give input for Outreachy projects (+8,0,-0)
(jforbes, 16:44:12)
* jsmith or sgallagh allah will represent FESCo (tyll, 16:44:47)
* #1769 F28 System Wide Change: Switch libidn-using applications to
IDNA2008 (jforbes, 16:44:53)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1769 (jforbes, 16:44:54)
* AGREED: F28 System Wide Change: Switch libidn-using applications to
IDNA2008 is approved (+8,0,-0) (jforbes, 16:47:18)
* #1766 Is ImageMagick 7 appropriate for Fedora 27 (and even 28)?
(jforbes, 16:47:30)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1766 (jforbes, 16:47:31)
* proposal is to make imagemagick 7 a system wide change for F28 and
not have anything on default install or blocking F27 media require
imagemagick 7 (tyll, 16:50:59)
* AGREED: sgallagh's proposal in ticket is accepted (+8,0,-0)
(jforbes, 16:52:56)
* Next Week's chair (jforbes, 16:53:11)
* nirik will chair next weeks meeting (jforbes, 16:55:20)
* open floor (jforbes, 16:55:36)
* next weeks meeting will be at the same time as current since we do
not have whenisgood results (jforbes, 16:56:23)
Meeting ended at 17:11:11 UTC.
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* adamw (22)
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