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#fedora-meeting: Fedora Diversity (2018-03-23)
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Meeting started by jwf at 13:07:52 UTC. The full logs are available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2018-03-23/diversity.2018-…
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Meeting summary
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* Agenda (jwf, 13:08:03)
* LINK:
https://infinote.fedoraproject.org/cgit/infinote/tree/meeting-templates/fed…
(jwf, 13:08:11)
* (1) Roll call / Q&A (jwf, 13:08:11)
* (2) Announcements (jwf, 13:08:11)
* (3) Action items from last meeting (jwf, 13:08:11)
* (4) Tickets (jwf, 13:08:11)
* (5) Open floor (jwf, 13:08:13)
* Roll call / Q&A (jwf, 13:08:20)
* Announcements (jwf, 13:14:54)
* LINK:
https://etherpad.gnome.org/p/Fedora_Diversity__2017_Year_in_Review
(x3mboy, 13:15:47)
* LINK:
https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/mindshare-monthly-report-fad-first-…
(x3mboy, 13:21:22)
* Action items from last meeting (jwf, 13:25:53)
* LINK:
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/diversity/diversity.2018-03-16-13.3…
(jwf, 13:26:23)
* How This Works: We look at past #action items from the last meeting
for quick follow-up. If a task is completed, we move on to the next
one. If it isn't, we get an update and re-action if needed. If no
status, we'll try to get a quick update and move forward. (jwf,
13:26:28)
* === [IN PROGRESS] "jwf Upload video to YouTube by Monday, March 19,
2018" === (jwf, 13:26:58)
* ACTION: jwf Work with chhavi_ on getting video source to upload to
YouTube (jwf, 13:27:48)
* === [INCOMPLETE] "jwf Prepare draft of primary / secondary goals,
impact from larger pad of team goals, prepare in format for a
potential FAD proposal" === (jwf, 13:28:10)
* ACTION: jwf Prepare draft of primary / secondary goals, impact from
larger pad of team goals, prepare in format for a potential FAD
proposal (jwf, 13:28:44)
* === [COMPLETE] "Cast vote for proposed wiki page restructuring in
#24: https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issue/24#comment-499296" ===
(jwf, 13:29:13)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issue/61 (jwf, 13:29:53)
* === [IN PROGRESS] "Cast vote for sticker request from Rhea in #59:
https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issue/59" === (jwf, 13:35:38)
* ACTION: diversity-team Cast vote for sticker request in #59:
https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issue/59 (jwf, 13:36:24)
* Tickets (jwf, 13:37:07)
* LINK:
https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting
(jwf, 13:37:12)
* Diversity Team Goals (bee__, 13:39:30)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issue/48 (bee__,
13:39:34)
* Rhea's requested stickers (Amita, 14:17:24)
* ACTION: everyone please vote +1 and -1 (Amita, 14:17:35)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issue/59 (bee__,
14:17:41)
* - Team Goals (Amita, 14:33:27)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issue/48 (Amita,
14:34:38)
* OpenFloor (Amita, 14:46:07)
* ACTION: Everyone fill whenisgood poll for hacksession today (bee__,
14:48:55)
* we plan to do the hacksession tomorrow (jonatoni, 14:49:55)
* LINK: http://whenisgood.net/e8tqtq5 (bee__, 14:51:42)
* LINK:
https://etherpad.gnome.org/p/Fedora_Diversity__2017_Year_in_Review
(x3mboy, 14:52:26)
* LINK: http://whenisgood.net/e8tqtq5/results/jee2dnw (bee__,
14:53:21)
* for poll reuslts (bee__, 14:53:33)
Meeting ended at 14:57:25 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* jwf Work with chhavi_ on getting video source to upload to YouTube
* jwf Prepare draft of primary / secondary goals, impact from larger pad
of team goals, prepare in format for a potential FAD proposal
* diversity-team Cast vote for sticker request in #59:
https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issue/59
* everyone please vote +1 and -1
* Everyone fill whenisgood poll for hacksession today
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* jwf
* jwf Work with chhavi_ on getting video source to upload to YouTube
* jwf Prepare draft of primary / secondary goals, impact from larger
pad of team goals, prepare in format for a potential FAD proposal
* **UNASSIGNED**
* diversity-team Cast vote for sticker request in #59:
https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issue/59
* everyone please vote +1 and -1
* Everyone fill whenisgood poll for hacksession today
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* bee__ (84)
* jwf (82)
* Rhea (53)
* nb (38)
* jonatoni (36)
* bexelbie (34)
* x3mboy (31)
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#fedora-meeting-1: F28 Beta Readiness Meeting
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Meeting started by jkurik at 19:00:05 UTC. The full logs are available
at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2018-03-22/f28-beta-read…
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Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (jkurik, 19:00:15)
* Purpose of this meeting (jkurik, 19:01:30)
* Before each public release all of the groups participating the
development of Fedora's next release meet to make sure the release
is well coordinated. (jkurik, 19:01:36)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Readiness_Meetings
(jkurik, 19:01:40)
* Current status (jkurik, 19:01:52)
* Fedora 28 Beta is No-Go (jkurik, 19:01:58)
* The Beta release slips for one week to “Target #1” date (April 3rd).
We are not going to slip the Final GA yet. (jkurik, 19:02:12)
* Design (jkurik, 19:02:54)
* wallpapers are ready. There are no other deliverables from the
Design team. (jkurik, 19:04:37)
* ACTION: jkurik to check with mizmo offline there is nothing else
which might block the release (jkurik, 19:05:00)
* Infrastructure (jkurik, 19:05:11)
* Infra is good and ready to go (jkurik, 19:05:56)
* Ambassadors (jkurik, 19:06:05)
* Ambassadors are ready. No know blocking issues for the F28 Beta
release (jkurik, 19:07:14)
* Documentation (jkurik, 19:07:21)
* As there are no formal deliverables of the Doc team for Beta, there
is no blocker for F28 Beta release from the Doc team. (jkurik,
19:09:05)
* HELP: The Doc team would like to ask for help: rework of the Release
Notes package. This needs an experienced packager and someone who
can figure out how to pull down all of a websites dependencies, not
just the ones served from the docs.fp.o server. i.e. various
javascript libraries. This may not be hard, but the Doc team is
short of people-power. (jkurik, 19:09:37)
* HELP: Writers and Change Owners who will write about what is
new/changed. (jkurik, 19:09:47)
* FESCo (jkurik, 19:10:09)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1537253 (nirik,
19:11:13)
* FESCo see the modularity change as possible blocker, however all
seems to be in place now and ready for release. (jkurik, 19:11:50)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1537253 (jkurik,
19:12:01)
* from the FESCo perspective is the modularity change at least ready
to test (jkurik, 19:12:42)
* Marketing (jkurik, 19:12:58)
* Marketing team has project-wide changes. The team is working on
collecting the talking points, screenshots to be gathered soon.
(jkurik, 19:15:11)
* The release announcenment still need works, but should be ready for
the release (jkurik, 19:15:34)
* We could particularly use more exciting and in-depth talking points
from the Editions (mattdm, 19:16:21)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_28_talking_points
(mattdm, 19:16:27)
* Fedora Engineering/Infrastructure Manager (jkurik, 19:16:57)
* As the Infra team is ready, we are skipping the
Engineering/Infrastructure Manager status update (jkurik, 19:18:42)
* Fedora Project Leader (jkurik, 19:18:50)
* FPL is ready for the release, except that there is nothing to
release at the moment (jkurik, 19:20:44)
* FPL concerns are the talking points and docs stuff. (jkurik,
19:21:04)
* QA (jkurik, 19:21:53)
* QA is working on fixing blockers. Estimation for getting an RC is
tomorrow (jkurik, 19:23:38)
* Release Engineering (jkurik, 19:23:48)
* Release Engineering is good to go except for the existing blockers
and no RC (jkurik, 19:24:33)
* Websites (jkurik, 19:24:40)
* According to robyduck, websites are not yet ready, however these
should be ready on time for the F28 Beta release (jkurik, 19:25:41)
* Translations (jkurik, 19:25:48)
* Things are more-or-less working as they usually do. The translation
team does not currently see any issue which might possibly block the
F28 Beta release. (jkurik, 19:26:21)
* CommOps (jkurik, 19:26:29)
* Open floor (jkurik, 19:27:53)
Meeting ended at 19:29:44 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* jkurik to check with mizmo offline there is nothing else which might
block the release
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* jkurik
* jkurik to check with mizmo offline there is nothing else which might
block the release
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* zodbot (15)
* x3mboy (10)
* nirik (8)
* mattdm (8)
* adamw (5)
* mboddu (4)
* bt0 (3)
* puiterwijk (2)
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#fedora-meeting: Infrastructure (2018-03-22)
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Meeting started by smooge at 18:00:12 UTC. The full logs are available
at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2018-03-22/infrastructure.…
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Meeting summary
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* aloha (smooge, 18:00:12)
* New folks introductions (smooge, 18:02:11)
* This is a place where people who are interested in Fedora
Infrastructure can introduce themselves (smooge, 18:02:11)
* announcements and information (smooge, 18:16:02)
* Infrastructure hackfest in april:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure_Hackathon_2018
(smooge, 18:16:02)
* We are in F28 Beta Freeze! All changes to frozen hosts must get +2
on list before being applied - kevin (smooge, 18:16:02)
* Bodhi 3.5.1 update pushed out. This time with more feeeling.
(smooge, 18:16:02)
* Fedora 28Beta is no-go for this week. (smooge, 18:18:27)
* Mass update/reboot after freeze is done. (smooge, 18:19:23)
* Ticket cleanup (smooge, 18:20:02)
* none this week. (smooge, 18:20:03)
* Moving bots to dedicated channels (smooge, 18:20:03)
* fm-apps and other reporting agents might be better in dedicated
channels (smooge, 18:20:03)
* does zodbot need to be in every channel? (smooge, 18:20:03)
* Apprentice Open office minutes (smooge, 18:32:32)
* A time where apprentices may ask for help or look at problems.
(smooge, 18:32:32)
* open floor (smooge, 18:35:06)
Meeting ended at 18:36:45 UTC.
Action Items
------------
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* smooge (51)
* nirik (28)
* sapo (17)
* puiterwijk (10)
* zodbot (9)
* nb (5)
* cverna (4)
* relrod (3)
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#fedora-meeting-1: F28 Beta Go/No-Go meeting
============================================
Meeting started by jkurik at 17:00:03 UTC. The full logs are available
at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2018-03-22/f28-beta-go-n…
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Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (jkurik, 17:00:16)
* Purpose of this meeting (jkurik, 17:01:22)
* Purpose of this meeting is to check whether or not F28 Beta is ready
for shipment, according to the release criteria. (jkurik, 17:01:28)
* This is determined in a few ways: (jkurik, 17:01:34)
* * No remaining blocker bugs (jkurik, 17:01:41)
* * Release candidate compose is available (jkurik, 17:01:46)
* * Test matrices for Beta are fully completed (jkurik, 17:01:53)
* Current status (jkurik, 17:01:59)
* LINK:
https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/28/beta/buglist
(jkurik, 17:02:25)
* The RC for F28 Beta is not yet ready (jkurik, 17:03:25)
* LINK:
https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/28/beta/buglist -
F28 Blockers (jkurik, 17:03:33)
* As we have no RC there are subsequently no Test Matrices for the F28
Beta RC (jkurik, 17:03:43)
* Mini-Blocker Review (jkurik, 17:04:05)
* (1558906) AttributeError: 'DiskDevice' object has no attribute
'isDisk' (adamw, 17:04:53)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1558906 (adamw,
17:04:54)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, ON_QA (adamw, 17:04:54)
* AGREED: 1558906 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - accepted as a violation
of "The installer must be able to detect and install to hardware or
firmware RAID storage devices" (adamw, 17:09:08)
* (1559180) hangs on launch (adamw, 17:09:16)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1559180 (adamw,
17:09:17)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (adamw, 17:09:17)
* AGREED: 1559180 - RejectedBlocker (Beta) - no-one else is able to
reproduce this in testing on various systems, so it does not appear
to be a blocker (adamw, 17:14:08)
* (1557659) aacraid: Host adapter abort request (adamw, 17:15:21)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1557659 (adamw,
17:15:21)
* Proposed Blocker, kernel, NEW (adamw, 17:15:21)
* AGREED: 1557659 - RejectedBlocker (Beta) - this is specific to one
particular type of RAID adapter, and we have a reasonable
workaround, so we don't consider this a serious enough violation to
be a Beta blocker (adamw, 17:19:07)
* (1559174) Locally-changed booleans not preserved on upgrade from F27
to F28, cannot be set permanently after upgrade (adamw, 17:19:15)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1559174 (adamw,
17:19:15)
* Proposed Blocker, policycoreutils, MODIFIED (adamw, 17:19:15)
* AGREED: 1559174 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - accepted as a violation
of the upgrade criteria applied to release-blocking server roles (as
noted in the bug) (adamw, 17:23:06)
* doing proposed freeze exceptions quickly (adamw, 17:25:17)
* (1559188) Failed to initialize security module (adamw, 17:25:29)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1559188 (adamw,
17:25:29)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, abrt, NEW (adamw, 17:25:29)
* AGREED: 1559188 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - this would ease
reporting of crashes on live images, and immediately after install
(adamw, 17:28:45)
* (1557511) annobin: failure building wxGTK3 in F28 (adamw, 17:28:53)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1557511 (adamw,
17:28:53)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, annobin, ON_QA (adamw, 17:28:54)
* AGREED: 1557511 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - this is accepted
as a freeze exception on the basis it's needed to build some
packages, and pulling it in as an FE rather than using a buildroot
override keeps the contents of the composes more consistent (adamw,
17:38:22)
* (1466093) Decommissioning domain controller role fails when role
deployed on Fedora 25 then system upgraded to Fedora 26 (adamw,
17:38:53)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1466093 (adamw,
17:38:53)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, firewalld, MODIFIED (adamw, 17:38:53)
* AGREED: 1466093 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - decommissioning
isn't actually part of the release criteria, but is a significant
function of server roles, and pulling this in will improve openQA
test coverage (adamw, 17:48:27)
* (1546743) gfortran internal compiler error when compiling cp2k-5.1 on
ppc64le (adamw, 17:48:35)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1546743 (adamw,
17:48:35)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, gcc, NEW (adamw, 17:48:35)
* AGREED: 1546743 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - accepted on the
same principle as the annobin bug (1557511) - buildroot/compose
consistency (adamw, 17:59:06)
* (1558510) "Star" feature missing in Nautilus (adamw, 17:59:14)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1558510 (adamw,
17:59:14)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, nautilus, NEW (adamw, 17:59:14)
* AGREED: 1558510 - punt (delay decision) - we suspect there's
actually no bug here, but we agreed to just punt it till Monday's
meeting, hopefully by then it'll be clear whether there's actually a
bug and it merits FE status (adamw, 18:05:21)
* Test Matrices coverage (jkurik, 18:05:33)
* As there is no RC yet, Test matrices are not ready as well (jkurik,
18:05:37)
* We are skipping the Test Matrices coverage check (jkurik, 18:05:43)
* Go/No-Go decision (jkurik, 18:05:49)
* AGREED: Due to missing RC for the F28 Beta release and presence of
blocker bugs, the decision is “No Go”. The Beta release slips for
one week to “Target #1” date (April 3rd). We are not going to slip
the Final GA yet. (jkurik, 18:07:50)
* ACTION: jkurik to publish the Go/No-Go result (jkurik, 18:07:59)
* ACTION: jkurik to organize second round of Go/No-Go meeting for F28
Beta on Thursday, March 29th at 17:00UTC (jkurik, 18:08:07)
* Open floor (jkurik, 18:08:12)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1559341 (adamw,
18:10:38)
* SELinux blocks bluetooth from working (jkurik, 18:11:26)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1559341 (jkurik,
18:11:33)
* AGREED: 1559341 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - this is a
significant functionality issue that will affect lives etc., would
be good to fix it for the compose (adamw, 18:14:08)
Meeting ended at 18:16:25 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* jkurik to publish the Go/No-Go result
* jkurik to organize second round of Go/No-Go meeting for F28 Beta on
Thursday, March 29th at 17:00UTC
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* jkurik
* jkurik to publish the Go/No-Go result
* jkurik to organize second round of Go/No-Go meeting for F28 Beta on
Thursday, March 29th at 17:00UTC
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* jkurik (70)
* sgallagh (38)
* nirik (38)
* mboddu (32)
* bowlofeggs (26)
* frantisekz (22)
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#fedora-meeting-2: RELENG (2018-03-22)
======================================
Meeting started by mboddu at 17:00:00 UTC. The full logs are available
at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2018-03-22/releng.2018-0…
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Meeting summary
---------------
* init process (mboddu, 17:00:00)
* Skipping the meeting as there aren't many people and blocker
review/Go-No Go meeting is going on (mboddu, 17:18:12)
Meeting ended at 17:18:16 UTC.
Action Items
------------
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* mboddu (20)
* nirik (7)
* zodbot (5)
* Kellin (5)
* masta (3)
* relrod (2)
* kparal (1)
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