python-devel April 2018

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Python 3.7's Deterministic pycs
by Petr Viktorin 15 Jul '19

15 Jul '19

Hello! The first beta for Python 3.7 is out. It will hopefully get into Fedora soon as python37. After it comes out of beta, we'll upgrade python3 to it. The What's New list is at: https://docs.python.org/3.7/whatsnew/3.7.html One thing that's interesting for packagers is PEP 552: Deterministic pycs: https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0552/ Let me summarize in my own words. A new opt-in mode for byte-compilation makes .pyc (bytecode cache) files depend only on the contents of the corresponding source file. If we use this, it will slow down imports, because the whole source file would need to be read and hashed in order to verify if a .pyc file is valid. (Currently, metadata like the modification time and file size is used.) To speed things up, there's an option, UNCHECKED_HASH, which skips cache validation entirely. Using this would mean that if you modify a .py source file installed by RPM, the changes wouldn't take effect (the .py contents would only be shown in tracebacks). Modifying installed files in production is extremely bad practice, of course, but it's quite useful for debugging on throw-away systems. If we adopt UNCHECKED_HASH, anyone doing it will have to remember to remove the corresponding .pyc file. Honestly, I'm not sure we want to use this in Fedora. Is anyone here into reproducible builds, to make a better argument for this? -- Petr Viktorin

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pyp2rpm version in fedora
by Martin Bukatovic 30 Apr '18

30 Apr '18

Dear python devel list, I see that version of pyp2rpm packaged in Fedora 27 is older than one from Fedora 26: Fedora 28 3.3.0-3.fc28 Fedora 27 3.2.2-2.fc27 Fedora 26 3.2.3-1.fc26 Is there any reason for that? see: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/pyp2rpm/overview/ -- Martin Bukatovic

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PEP 394 update proposal: Allow changing the `python` command in,some cases
by Petr Viktorin 26 Apr '18

26 Apr '18

Hello, Upstream I submitted a [change to PEP 394] to allow distributions to change /usr/bin/python in some limited cases: - Users and administrators can, by a deliberate action, change python to invoke Python 3. (Activating a venv counts as such an action, but so would e.g. using alternates, installing a non-default overriding package, or replacing /usr/bin/python.) - In controlled environments where being explicit is valued more than user experience (test environments, build systems, etc.), distributions can omit the python command even when python2 is installed. If this goes through, in Fedora I would like to: - Create a "python" package containing *just* the /usr/bin/python symlink. This would be a subpackage of python2, and python2 would *suggest* it. In other words, it would be installed by default with Python 2, but mock, koji, and test tools would omit it (unless something deliberately Requires `python` or `/usr/bin/python`). - Put an unofficial "python 3.6" on COPR (and maybe eventually in a Module), which would be the recommended way to make `python` invoke Python 3. [change to PEP 394]: https://github.com/python/peps/pull/630 Upstream post on python-dev: https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2018-April/153042.html Let me know what you think.

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Python 2 will be replaced with Python 3 in the next RHEL major release
by Miro Hrončok 10 Apr '18

10 Apr '18

Hi, see the deprecation notes for RHEL 7.5 [1]: Python 2 has been deprecated ============================ Python 2 will be replaced with Python 3 in the next Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) major release. See the Conservative Python 3 Porting Guide [2] for information on how to migrate large code bases to Python 3. While this might have been obvious from the conditionals we have been adding in some specfiles [3][4], this is AFAIK the first time this has been publicly announced. This is important for those who like to maintain a single spec for everything. Previously, there have been messages on the devel list that encouraged people to change the python3 conditional from "if fedora" to "if fedora or rhel > 7" [5]. Please make a note that it will not be that simple, because you'll also need to add conditionals for python2, see for example already mentioned [3] or [4]. (If the conditionals are getting too complicated, consider not using them at all and maintain multiple branches of the specs instead.) This is also important for everybody who still runs their code on Python 2. Please consider to migrate ASAP. The Conservative Python 3 Porting Guide [2] is very helpful. (I'm looking mostly at Fedora infra and QA here.) We (Red Hat Python Maint and Fedora Python SIG) are happy to help. If you feel lost, talk to us. Also, this is a reminder that we intend to orphan Python 2 from Fedora [6] and so far nobody volunteered to maintain it. Python 2 will go upstream EOL in 1.75 years [7]. [1] https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/7/ht… [2] https://portingguide.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ [3] https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/createrepo_c/pull-request/3#request_diff [4] https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-bugzilla/pull-request/2#request_d… [5] https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org… [6] https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org… [7] https://pythonclock.org/ -- Miro Hrončok -- Phone: +420777974800 IRC: mhroncok

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Mass package change (python2- binary package renaming)
by Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek 06 Apr '18

06 Apr '18

Hello Fedora Python package maintainers! This is an announcement of a mass package renaming: Python 2 binary packages will be renamed to python2-*. This will happen soon after the F27 branching on August 15th. Currently ~1330 source packages already generate a binary package with the python2- prefix, and 835 remain to be updated. The spec files for approximately 740 packages will be renamed, and 95 will be left for fixing by maintainers or proven packagers. At the end of this e-mail are two lists of maintainers and packages: List 1. for those packages which will be taken care of by the mass remaining Patches: https://in.waw.pl/~zbyszek/fedora/pyrename/ Maintainers don't have to do anything. List 2. for the remaining packages Maintainers are encouraged to update packages manually. ### Details of the change ### The change is to ensure that as many as possible python packages which provide a version for python2 have a python2- subpackage as required by the guidelines [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Naming#Python2_binary_package_nami…]. For source packages which do *not* have a python- prefix, but already have a python-foo subpackage, that subpackage will be renamed to python2-foo. For packages which are called python-foo and just build a main binary package python-foo, a new python2-foo subpackage will be created. Provides/Requires/Conflicts/Obsoletes/Recommends/Suggests are moved from the main package to the new subpackage. In all cases, the new python2- subpackage will use lower-case naming. This may lead to a situation where an existing python3- subpackage has a differently-cased name than the python2- subpackage. An effort is made (thanks Miro!) to preserve the style which is used in the spec file, so that if e.g. python-%{real_name} was used originally, this is changed to python2-%{real_name}. If this macro cannot be guessed or if it resolves to a non-lowercase name, a non-macro lower-case string will be used. %{python_provide python2-foobar} are added as required by the guidelines [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Python#The_.25python_provide_macro]. One or two: %{python_provide python2-foobar} is always added, and if the package has a non-lower-case name, %{python_provide python2-FooBar} is also added. This provides backward compatible names to the package (python-foobar, python-FooBar), as long as %{python_provide} is defined as it is now. Once %python_provide macro is switched to prefer python3 subpackages, those compat names will be gone. In case the source package name does not have a python- prefix, a Provides for the old name is also added, with a comment that it should be removed later. Example: +%package -n python2-atpy +Summary: %summary +Requires: numpy python-astropy +%{?python_provide:%python_provide python2-atpy} +# Remove before F30 +Provides: ATpy = %{version}-%{release} Changes are implemented in an automated way using https://pagure.io/pyrenamer. rpmdev-bumpspec is used to add changelog entries will be added that look like: * Sat Aug 05 2017 Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek <zbyszek(a)in.waw.pl> - 3.3-4 - Python 2 binary package renamed to python2-foobar See https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FinalizingFedoraSwitchtoPython3 ### Which packages need to change ### http://fedora.portingdb.xyz/namingpolicy/ "Misnamed subpackage" lists 877 subpackages. The real number is a bit lower, because there are some dead packages and some that have been fixed in the meanwhile on that list. The automated rename currently works for 737 packages, 7 have manual patches, 47 don't need work. The remaining 95 packages will require manual fixes. I do *not* want maintainers to manually fix packages which are covered by the automated changes (list 1 below), since that provides no benefit. Maintainers are of course encouraged to fix packages which are not covered (list 2 below), or to take the automated patch and use it as a basis of their own fix if the automated change is deficient for some reason. Help with the remaining ~95 packages which cannot be done automatically is very much welcome. ### Opting out and independent fixes ### The script skips all packages which already have a python2- subpackage and %python_provide, so all packages which are fixed in the meantime will be skipped. If packages need to be skipped even without that, let me know and I'll add the package to the blacklist. ### Timeline ### 2017-08-08: this e-mail is sent to fedora-announce soon after 2017-08-15 (F27 branching): automatically and manually generated patches are applied, and packages are rebuilt. Depending on the results, I'll fix some and follow up with bugzilla tickets for the remaining packages. ### List 1. 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Re: Libravatar shutting down on 2018-09-01
by Eduard Lucena 05 Apr '18

05 Apr '18

I was reseraching a little bit and I found that this project is made in python with Django. Is it possible that we can take this project and do an implementation of our own? The current implementation [1] is: - Debian - Postgres - Django - Python stack And the stats (infrastructure requirements) [2] are: - Storage: - Application server: - 1 GB General Purpose v1 Rackspace cloud server - Number of user accounts: 6655 - Number of unique avatars: 6919 (355 MB) - Static image server: - 1 GB General Purpose v1 Rackspace cloud server - Size of avatars on disk: 1.8 GB - Traffic: - Application server: - Bandwidth: 328.31 MB - Hits: 43,823 - Static image server: - Bandwidth: 18.99 GB - Total hits: 11,191,373 - Redirects (to Gravatar): 9,605,127 There is a long blog post [3] about why it's shutting down, but the link that I found useful for possibly take this project is the development environment [4]. It's just a question, maybe is too big to take it for the whole world, but it looks like a great project for the Python SIG. Br, [1] https://blog.libravatar.org/posts/Libravatar.org_is_shutting_down_on_2018-0… [2] https://wiki.libravatar.org/shutdown-coordination [3] https://feeding.cloud.geek.nz/posts/looking-back-on-starting-libravatar [4] https://wiki.libravatar.org/development_environment -- Eduard Lucena Móvil: +56962318010 GNU/Linux User #589060 Ubuntu User #8749 Fedora Marketing Representative

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