Any recommended books or tutorials or other good ways to get started with TurboGears--beyond the tutorials at http://docs.turbogears.org/ ? The book by Mark Ramm, etc. gets really mixed reviews at Amazon.
Thanks, John
John Poelstra wrote:
Any recommended books or tutorials or other good ways to get started with TurboGears--beyond the tutorials at http://docs.turbogears.org/ ? The book by Mark Ramm, etc. gets really mixed reviews at Amazon.
The TurboGears book has both good points and bad points. You won't be sorry you own it if you have it but it isn't the end-all-be-all either.
If you use sqlalchemy instead of sqlobject, then what you need for a model is *very* well documented at http://www.sqlalchemy.org/. So despite the fact that sqlobject is somewhat easier to use, i'd highly recommend sqlalchemy for this reason alone.
For tutorials, I'm not sure what's out there... I started with tg-admin quickstart and then adapting the project to see what worked and what didn't. I liked having good reference material when I did that -- sqlalchemy.org, genshi.edgewall.org, cherrypy.org, and some turbogears.org.
-Toshio
The source code in the book is riddled with typos. I don't know if the downloads have been fixed. The examples are useful. There is very little reference material.
I bought the book and have found it useful - to the extent I would buy it again even knowing the problems.
The different component (cherrypy, sqlalchemy, etc.) websites generally do a good job of documenting the details. This book describes how the pieces fit together.
It fails miserably as a reference. A typical example: the expose decorator is used to mark a method to be exposed as a URL. The examples show: @expose(template='myapp.templates.mytemp') def mymethod(self, **params): ... However, if the template is determined at run time, you need to specify that in the dictionary that is returned by the method. return dict( tg_template='myapp.templates.othertemp', ...
You'll figure out the the dictionary key is different from the expose parameter name, but it would be nice if there were a few reference summaries in the book to cover issues like that.
You will still be relying heavily on the different component web sites
On Thu, 2008-05-15 at 13:23 -0700, John Poelstra wrote:
Any recommended books or tutorials or other good ways to get started with TurboGears--beyond the tutorials at http://docs.turbogears.org/ ? The book by Mark Ramm, etc. gets really mixed reviews at Amazon.
Thanks, John
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On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 01:23:06PM -0700, John Poelstra wrote:
Any recommended books or tutorials or other good ways to get started with TurboGears--beyond the tutorials at http://docs.turbogears.org/ ? The book by Mark Ramm, etc. gets really mixed reviews at Amazon.
I personally found Mark's TG book to be a great read, even though it contains many typos. It'll give you a good understanding of how TurboGears is put together, and the components used (kid, SQLObject, CherryPy) in the book will be supported for a long time.
However, TurboGears 1.1 is coming out soon, which replaces a lot of the default components: kid->genshi, SQLObject->SQLAlchemy, TG Widgets->ToscaWidgets. For someone wanting to learn TurboGears, I highly recommend diving into the 1.1 stack (which can already used in any 1.0 application already).
There are a couple of SQLAlchemy books that are supposed to hit the shelves next month. One by Mark Ramm and one of the SQLAlchemy developers, and an O'Reilly one (http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596516147/).
Good luck!
luke
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