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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Fedora Server Working Group
by Pierre-YvesChibon 21 Apr '14

21 Apr '14

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Fedora Server Working Group on 2014-04-22 from 11:00:00 to 12:00:00 US/Eastern At fedora-meeting-1(a)irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: Weekly meeting to discuss issues and planning for the Fedora Server Product and SIG. More information available at: [http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Server](http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Server) Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar//meeting/283/

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Fedora Server WG Meeting Minutes (2014-04-15)
by Adam Williamson 15 Apr '14

15 Apr '14

=================================================================== #fedora-meeting-1: Server Working Group Weekly Meeting (2014-04-15) =================================================================== Meeting started by adamw at 15:05:57 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2014-04-15/fedora-meeting… . Meeting summary --------------- * roll call (adamw, 15:06:19) * present: adamw, mizmo, tuanta, mitr, nirik, simo (adamw, 15:09:22) * Agenda Item: Drafting a test plan (adamw, 15:09:56) * Agenda Item: Should we have a default caching DNS server? (adamw, 15:10:15) * Agenda item: Remote journal logging (adamw, 15:13:39) * also present: davidstrauss (adamw, 15:13:44) * Drafting a test plan (adamw, 15:14:05) * adamw has volunteered himself to draft a broad initial test plan for the Server product, an attempt to define the required scope of test coverage to validate a Server release (adamw, 15:17:13) * nirik suggests checking for already-existing upstream test plans (e.g. freeipa, postgresql) (adamw, 15:17:52) * simo suggests simple deployment of domain controller role on server machine and domain join / user creation on a Workstation machine as a basic smoke test for domain controller role (adamw, 15:24:12) * Should we have a default caching DNS server? (adamw, 15:28:57) * davidstrauss and jsmith have found caching DNS very valuable in real-world deployments (adamw, 15:30:01) * there is an effort underway to write a plugin for NetworkManager to integrate with unbound, which appears to be the WG's caching nameserver of choice, but it is on track for F22 not F21 (adamw, 15:38:18) * ACTION: simo to work with virtualization and networking folks to make sure any caching DNS plans consider libvirt's use of dnsmasq (adamw, 15:40:55) * AGREED: We would like the Server product to have DNS caching functionality by default, but we believe this can be done at a project-wide level as of Fedora 22 and do not intend to NIH it for the Server product only Fedora 21 (adamw, 15:44:26) * simo will try to act as liaison to the folks working on NM/unbound integration (adamw, 15:45:54) * Remote journal logging (adamw, 15:46:56) * see devel@ thread "F21 Self Contained Change: Remote Journal Logging", https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2014-April/197980.html (adamw, 15:47:53) * simo has concerns about the security of the proposed design (suggests kerberos as a better framework than https) (adamw, 15:49:29) * it looks like we all have some reservations regarding the new proposed systemd remote logging functionality, and expect to stick with rsyslog for the foreseeable future for Server (adamw, 16:00:00) Meeting ended at 16:02:49 UTC. Action Items ------------ * simo to work with virtualization and networking folks to make sure any caching DNS plans consider libvirt's use of dnsmasq Action Items, by person ----------------------- * simo * simo to work with virtualization and networking folks to make sure any caching DNS plans consider libvirt's use of dnsmasq * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * adamw (117) * simo (108) * nirik (26) * mitr (25) * davidstrauss (24) * tuanta (9) * zodbot (8) * mizmo (7) * jsmith (3) * Evolution (0) * sgallagh (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Fedora Server Working Group
by Pierre-YvesChibon 15 Apr '14

15 Apr '14

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Fedora Server Working Group on 2014-04-15 from 11:00:00 to 12:00:00 US/Eastern At fedora-meeting-1(a)irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: Weekly meeting to discuss issues and planning for the Fedora Server Product and SIG. More information available at: [http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Server](http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Server) Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar//meeting/283/

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Soliciting agenda items for 2014-04-08 meeting
by Stephen Gallagher 15 Apr '14

15 Apr '14

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Inconsistency between Server Role Framework and Server Role Changes
by Jaroslav Reznik 08 Apr '14

08 Apr '14

Hi guys, so the Framework change is done and already announced - I talked with Mitr, if guidelines are needed or not, he thinks not. But then I took a look on the Server Role Changes (Database, DC) and it refers to Framework change guidelines. I already announced one of them, don't want to block on it - just, please, make sure changes/opinions are consistent and Framework change page is updated. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/FrameworkForServerRoleDeployment (I understand this one as linked Server Role infrastructure). https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DatabaseServerRole Jaroslav

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Fedora Server Working Group
by Pierre-YvesChibon 07 Apr '14

07 Apr '14

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Fedora Server Working Group on 2014-04-08 from 11:00:00 to 12:00:00 US/Eastern At fedora-meeting-1(a)irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: Weekly meeting to discuss issues and planning for the Fedora Server Product and SIG. More information available at: [http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Server](http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Server) Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar//meeting/283/

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co-owner for cloud "adopt your cattle" feature
by Matthew Miller 04 Apr '14

04 Apr '14

The Cloud WG has a proposal for an "Adopt-Your-Cattle" feature, wherein the Cloud Base Image could be easily changed to Fedora Server. The details of that are a completely hand-wavy at this point. Would anyone like to volunteer to be a co-owner of this (see our trac ticket for the feature at https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/20) and help make it less vague? -- Matthew Miller -- Fedora Project -- <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org> "Tepid change for the somewhat better!"

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Security related defaults process
by Simo Sorce 04 Apr '14

04 Apr '14

On the meeting today we briefly discussed how to address defaults that may be appropriate for a server and may differ from other Fedora products, how to find them, how to change them in the product. I am personally more looking to determine a process, when we find out something may need to change. How do we analyze the issue, what guidelines will drive our decision and finally how, technically, changes are made that affect just the server product. I'd like ideas and discussion around this topic so we can determine if it is important, and how to deal with this 'stuff'. Simo. -- Simo Sorce * Red Hat, Inc * New York

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RFC: "Framework for Server Role Deployment" Change proposal
by Miloslav Trmač 03 Apr '14

03 Apr '14

... is available at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/FrameworkForServerRoleDeployment . (To give credit where it is due, most of the content has actually been written by Adam.) Mirek

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Fedora Server WG Meeting Minutes (2014-04-01)
by Stephen Gallagher 01 Apr '14

01 Apr '14

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 =================================================================== #fedora-meeting-1: Server Working Group Weekly Meeting (2014-04-01) =================================================================== Meeting started by sgallagh at 14:59:34 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2014-04-01/fedora-meeting… . Meeting summary - --------------- * roll call (sgallagh, 14:59:42) * sgallagh is present (sgallagh, 14:59:47) * mizmo here (mizmo, 15:00:12) * tuanta is here (sgallagh, 15:01:51) * nirik is here (sgallagh, 15:01:54) * mitr is here (sgallagh, 15:01:58) * agenda (sgallagh, 15:02:08) * Agenda Item: Deadlines for Fedora Server Product internal deliverables (sgallagh, 15:02:12) * Agenda Item: Progress on Change Proposal filing (sgallagh, 15:02:14) * Agenda Item: Change Proposal: Install Media (sgallagh, 15:02:17) * Agenda Item: Change Proposal: Anaconda support for role deployment (sgallagh, 15:02:20) * Agenda Item: Discuss and identify security defaults for the Server Product (sgallagh, 15:02:23) * Deadlines for Fedora Server Product internal deliverables (sgallagh, 15:03:12) * AGREED: The Alpha Change Freeze deadline will also be the milestone to start working on docs/websites/marketing (sgallagh, 15:20:47) * ACTION: sgallagh to get roadmap requirements from the Cockpit project (sgallagh, 15:30:36) * Delivery milestone for the core role infrastructure will base its deadline around the needs of the Cockpit project to build an interface to them. (sgallagh, 15:32:04) * Progress on Change Proposal filing (sgallagh, 15:34:34) * Domain Controller Role Change Proposal is filed and awaiting Wrangler. It's being held off until the role infra proposal is available, since it's a dependency. (sgallagh, 15:35:11) * Role infra proposal hasn't been started yet. (sgallagh, 15:37:18) * ACTION: mitr and adamw to work on role infra proposal this week (sgallagh, 15:37:27) * Change Proposal: Install Media (sgallagh, 15:40:12) * ACTION: nirik to liaise with Base and help get a unified Fedora.next Installation Change Proposal together (sgallagh, 15:50:36) * Change Proposal: Anaconda support for role deployment (sgallagh, 15:51:27) * ACTION: sgallagh to file Change Proposal for "Anaconda support for role deployment" (sgallagh, 15:57:31) * Discuss and identify security defaults for the Server Product (sgallagh, 15:59:26) * ACTION: mitr and simo to expand on the security discussion on the mailing list. (sgallagh, 16:09:16) Meeting ended at 16:09:23 UTC. Action Items - ------------ * sgallagh to get roadmap requirements from the Cockpit project * mitr and adamw to work on role infra proposal this week * nirik to liaise with Base and help get a unified Fedora.next Installation Change Proposal together * sgallagh to file Change Proposal for "Anaconda support for role deployment" * mitr and simo to expand on the security discussion on the mailing list. Action Items, by person - ----------------------- * adamw * mitr and adamw to work on role infra proposal this week * mitr * mitr and adamw to work on role infra proposal this week * mitr and simo to expand on the security discussion on the mailing list. * nirik * nirik to liaise with Base and help get a unified Fedora.next Installation Change Proposal together * sgallagh * sgallagh to get roadmap requirements from the Cockpit project * sgallagh to file Change Proposal for "Anaconda support for role deployment" * simo * mitr and simo to expand on the security discussion on the mailing list. * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) - --------------------------- * sgallagh (137) * adamw (38) * simo (33) * nirik (26) * mitr (21) * davidstrauss (11) * zodbot (7) * mizmo (7) * tuanta (3) * jreznik_q10 (2) * Evolution (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlM65SEACgkQeiVVYja6o6PLhwCcDyQukPjH9n5X10Owrk7glMgJ 5/gAn1ukw+gWZT8Hjkp8FoBl1M/HGU1+ =k1DG -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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