server March 2022

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First experiences with beta candidate 1.2
by Peter Boy 19 Apr '22

19 Apr '22

I did some testing with beta-1.1 candidate Installation Went fine. /etc/resolv.conf a link again, no SELinux ACV messages with first boot any more. Cockpit The „Applications“ menu item still doesn’t list any installable applications The list of installed applications doesn’t contain cockpit-filesharing update. Question is: is that expected or a bug? @Matthew: When you select File Sharing you get a message "Failed to load NFS services. Is NFS installed or enabled?" (NFS) and "Samba must be configured to include registry. Add `include = registry` to the [global] section of /etc/samba/smb.conf“ (Samba) Is that intended behaviour or should the rpm install do those adaptations? And we are still missing localisation for cockpit-filesharing update Virtualization Installs flawlessly. The combo of qemu-kvm-core, libvirt, and virt-install now installs 104 packages on a fresh install, instead of 165 with beta 1.1 candidate. Either we will miss something or someone did a great job in housekeeping. Split name resolution doesn’t work for the libvirt internal network. I’ve to inspect that issue further. Possibly the configuration is still deficient (and not any of the apps). postgresql installed flawless Best Peter

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Cockpit 266 released
by Matej Marusak 31 Mar '22

31 Mar '22

Hi all, As it is the other Wednesday once again there is a new Cockpit release! Here are the release notes from Cockpit version 266: https://cockpit-project.org/blog/cockpit-266.html The main change is that we standardized on SI-based units for data sizes and rates. We also released Cockpit-podman with the same change. Cockpit 266: - source: https://github.com/cockpit-project/cockpit/releases/tag/266 - Fedora 35: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2022-fe3d361304 - Fedora 36: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2022-36fc9b915f Enjoy! -- Matej Marušák Associate Manager Red Hat <https://www.redhat.com> <https://red.ht/sig>

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Just a reminder: Next IRC meeting is April, 6 !
by Peter Boy 30 Mar '22

30 Mar '22

Just a reminder: TODAY there will be NO Server WG IRC meeting! Next regular meeting is April 6, 2022 ! The March has 5 „Wednesdays“ instead of 4 as most months have. Therefore, the gap between our „third Wednesday meeting“ March and „first Wednesday meeting“ April is *3 weeks* this time, instead of the usual 2 weeks. So everything quite regular, nothing aberrant or missing. Meet you Wednesday, April 6 - 17:00 UTC Peter

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New documentation in staging waiting for review
by Peter Boy 28 Mar '22

28 Mar '22

I just uploaded two new and two updated articles to staging. New: (1) Creating a virtual machine using a generic disk image – the example of virt-builder https://docs.stg.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-server/virtualization-vm-in… Using CentOS 9-stream as an example, the article guides you through the download of a third-party created VM image and subsequent customization. (2) Creating a virtual machine using a distribution’s Cloud base image – the example of CentOS https://docs.stg.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-server/virtualization-vm-in… Using the CentOS provided Cloud image the article guides you how to install a VM either using Cockpit or virt-install. It replaces the outdated article Virtual Machines based on Cloud Images Specifically those two need a review. Updated: (3) Adding Virtualization Support https://docs.stg.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-server/virtualization-insta… Slightly updated version (specifically adding a section about Cockpit) to include Fedora 36 (4) Installing a Fedora Server virtual machine using Cockpit https://docs.stg.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-server/virtualization-vm-in… Slightly updated, leaving off those parts which are now dealt with in the previous article, specifically about the connection type (System vs. Session) The former two urgently need a review. Please, answer to this mail when you pick up an article for review.

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Updated documentation about installing a virtual machine from Cloud image in Fedora Server
by Peter Boy 21 Mar '22

21 Mar '22

I just updated the article "Creating a virtual machine using a distribution’s Cloud base image – the example of CentOS“ in staging. It’s basically ready for publication and hence for reviewing, also accidentally still tagged as work in progress. I just want to test the provided configuration script with the latest Fedora Beta candidate. So, it would be nice if someone would pick it up for commenting and/or reviewing. I would like to remind that reviewing always resulted in a noticeable improvement and is not just a „nice to have“! Best Peter

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Some documentation updated
by Peter Boy 18 Mar '22

18 Mar '22

Hi, I just updated some of our documentation items: * System Administration – Post Installation Tasks https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-server/sysadmin-postinstall/ * Adding Virtualization Support https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-server/virtualization-install/ * Installing a Fedora Server virtual machine using Cockpit https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-server/virtualization-vm-instal… * Adding a graphical interface https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-server/usecase-gui-addon/ As discussed on a previous IRC meeting these articles were on staging for about 3 weeks. No one has raised concerns so far. Anyway, if anyone finds any mistakes, ambiguities or wording errors now, please make it known so that we can improve the text. Best Peter

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Virtualization libvirt installation problems and errors
by Peter Boy 17 Mar '22

17 Mar '22

While testing F36, I ran into a problem installing virtualization support on Fedora Server. Until now we installed qemu-kvm, libvirt, virt-install, and additionally cockpit-machines. That combo installs about 338 packages, at least 200 packages graphical desktop related (X11, wayland, gtk3, even poppler pdf renderer, see [1]). This breaks Fedora Servers fundamental headless core concept and installs lots of unusable and thus locally uncontrolled/unmaintained software. == In this respect, a correction is urgently needed. == === qemu-kvm === The cause of the problem is the use of package QEMU-kvm, which is aimed - hitherto unnoticed - at installation on a graphical desktop and therefore completely correctly assumes the appropriate packages. This in turn relies on the @virtualization group, which is the only public group supporting virtualization installation and is described accordingly in the Fedora documentation (without mentioning the graphical bias). In principle, the solution is quite simple. The qemu-kvm developers were wise enough to create a qemu-kvm-core group at the same time, which omits all graphical references and allows for an excellent installation on Fedora Server. === libvirt === Unfortunately, the maintainers of libvirt are far from this wisdom and insist that the libvirt package still relies on qemu-kvm, thus installing all the packages that QEMU-kvm-core omits again anyway. An analogous libvirt-core does not exist. Instead, Daniel Berrange refers to the list of individually available single packages, from which one (i.e. server WG) should please compile and test a suitable mix and watch the libvirt development steps to see if changes to the mix are required (see bug report by Martin Pitt [2]). == So we need to find a way to reliably determine a working set of libvirt packages for Fedora Server (or change the tool set). == Maybe we can find support in Debian/Ubuntu, whose libvirt maintainers have solved the problem, at least according to my first impression. === Group virtualization-headless === An initial approach to a solution could be the group ==@virtualization-headless==. This is a hidden group (see 'dnf group list -v hidden') that currently does pretty much the same as @virtualization, unfortunately. We could contact the owner and modify the group as required (or create a new group @virtualization-server). We could use that as a means to organize a suitable libvirt mix. === Cockpit-machines === As a further consequence, the cockpit-machines module is currently effectively unusable. It also has QEMU-kvm defined as a dependency. Even if we fix the libvirt problem with a suitable mix, cockpit-machines would currently undo this effort. Martin Pitt is on the way to fix it, see [3]. But we have to find a solution for F36. I’ll tag this issue for our next meeting. Any suggestions much appreciated. [1] https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/server@lists.fedoraproject.or… [2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2063670 [3] https://github.com/cockpit-project/cockpituous/pull/473

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A gentle reminder: Our IRC meeting will begin in about 30 min 2022-03-16 17:00 ==UTC==
by Peter Boy 16 Mar '22

16 Mar '22

The meeting will take place =========================================================== Fedora Server IRC meeting Wednesday, March 16 17:00 ==UTC== irc.libera.chat #fedora-meeting =========================================================== Please, check your local time using date -d '2022-03-16 17:00UTC' So far we have according to our plannings the following == Agenda == https://pagure.io/fedora-server/report/Meeting 1. = Follow up actions = 2. = Fedora 36 tests = https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/64 Goal: manual testing important features Please add your findings as comment to the ticket! =New=: Fix headless virtualization installation https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/80 3. = Planning Fedora 37 = https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/79 Goal: final determination of improvements Please add your options as comment to the ticket! 4. = Open floor = For any additions or changes, please reply to this email.

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Call for agenda items on 2022-03-16 17:00 ==UTC== meeting
by Peter Boy 14 Mar '22

14 Mar '22

The meeting will take place =========================================================== Fedora Server IRC meeting Wednesday, March 16 17:00 ==UTC== irc.libera.chat #fedora-meeting =========================================================== Please, check your local time using date -d '2022-03-16 17:00UTC' So far we have according to our plannings the following == Agenda == https://pagure.io/fedora-server/report/Meeting 1. = Follow up actions = 2. = Fedora 36 tests = https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/64 Goal: manual testing important features Please add your findings as comment to the ticket! 3. = Planning Fedora 37 = https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/79 Goal: final determination of improvements Please add your options as comment to the ticket! 4. = Open floor = For any additions or changes, please reply to this email.

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Fedora Server WG
by pboy＠fedoraproject.org 14 Mar '22

14 Mar '22

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Fedora Server WG on 2022-03-16 from 17:00:00 to 18:00:00 UTC At fedora-meeting(a)irc.libera.chat The meeting will be about: Standing meeting of the Fedora Server Working Group More information available at: [https://pagure.io/fedora-server/report/Meeting](https://pagure.io/fedora-se… Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/10162/

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