In an effort to make Fedora Server fully buzzword-compliant, I have created a Trello organization and board for keeping tabs on the open tasks we need to complete. This will help us visualize what work we want to get done, who is doing it and whether it's blocked.
The new board is public and located at https://trello.com/b/Cxf1YFs7/fedora-server and the organization is located at https://trello.com/fedoraserver
The purpose of this Trello board is to track those high-level issues that apply to the Fedora Server project as a whole. Tracking of individual project-level implementation should continue to be done within those projects.
I've added a few existing tasks that we have on our plate.
Members of the Server SIG: if you're interested in following along (and ideally picking up and working on a few tasks), please create a Trello account and email me with your ID so that I can add you to the organization. If you are sitting on the Server WG, please consider this to be strongly encouraged.
On Wed, 26 Nov 2014 08:21:29 -0500 Stephen Gallagher sgallagh@redhat.com wrote:
In an effort to make Fedora Server fully buzzword-compliant, I have created a Trello organization and board for keeping tabs on the open tasks we need to complete. This will help us visualize what work we want to get done, who is doing it and whether it's blocked.
The new board is public and located at https://trello.com/b/Cxf1YFs7/fedora-server and the organization is located at https://trello.com/fedoraserver
The purpose of this Trello board is to track those high-level issues that apply to the Fedora Server project as a whole. Tracking of individual project-level implementation should continue to be done within those projects.
I've added a few existing tasks that we have on our plate.
Members of the Server SIG: if you're interested in following along (and ideally picking up and working on a few tasks), please create a Trello account and email me with your ID so that I can add you to the organization. If you are sitting on the Server WG, please consider this to be strongly encouraged.
Sorry, I am not happy to use a non Fedora Infrastructure provided tool for Fedora related work.
Simo.
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 03:50:39PM -0500, Simo Sorce wrote:
I am not happy to use a non Fedora Infrastructure provided tool for Fedora related work.
I know some people in the Cloud SIG expressed a similar sentiment, and were interested in packaging up and deploying https://github.com/onepiecejs/nodejs-cantas, but there have always been more pressing concerns. Maybe you'd be interested in helping?
Excerpts from Matthew Miller's message of 2014-11-27 07:22 +10:00:
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 03:50:39PM -0500, Simo Sorce wrote:
I am not happy to use a non Fedora Infrastructure provided tool for Fedora related work.
I know some people in the Cloud SIG expressed a similar sentiment, and were interested in packaging up and deploying https://github.com/onepiecejs/nodejs-cantas, but there have always been more pressing concerns. Maybe you'd be interested in helping?
I would be keen to help with this. Seeing Trello used for more and more open source projects makes me a bit sad.
Do you know if anyone has made any progress on this yet? From some rudimentary searching I couldn't find an open review bug, or anything else aside from some expressions of interest on the Cloud-SIG list.
random-guy passing by
theres also https://taiga.io/ which provide both SCRUM and Kanban boards, more complete than cantas imho
(yes its FOSS .. AGPL)
On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 6:03 AM, Dan Callaghan dcallagh@redhat.com wrote:
Excerpts from Matthew Miller's message of 2014-11-27 07:22 +10:00:
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 03:50:39PM -0500, Simo Sorce wrote:
I am not happy to use a non Fedora Infrastructure provided tool for Fedora related work.
I know some people in the Cloud SIG expressed a similar sentiment, and were interested in packaging up and deploying https://github.com/onepiecejs/nodejs-cantas, but there have always been more pressing concerns. Maybe you'd be interested in helping?
I would be keen to help with this. Seeing Trello used for more and more open source projects makes me a bit sad.
Do you know if anyone has made any progress on this yet? From some rudimentary searching I couldn't find an open review bug, or anything else aside from some expressions of interest on the Cloud-SIG list.
-- Dan Callaghan dcallagh@redhat.com Software Engineer, Hosted & Shared Services Red Hat, Inc.
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On Wed, 2014-11-26 at 16:22 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 03:50:39PM -0500, Simo Sorce wrote:
I am not happy to use a non Fedora Infrastructure provided tool for Fedora related work.
I know some people in the Cloud SIG expressed a similar sentiment, and were interested in packaging up and deploying https://github.com/onepiecejs/nodejs-cantas, but there have always been more pressing concerns. Maybe you'd be interested in helping?
Sorry folks, been away for the US holiday with family.
So, Simo makes a valid point (and one I should have considered before going ahead and recommending Trello). We should be striving to use open-source tools to develop the Fedora Server.
The Cantas suggestion is a sensible one. I notice while doing a bit of quick research on it that the Cantas upstream directly supports OpenShift, so we could easily deploy a Cantas server to the public OpenShift cloud that Red Hat has made available to us. As some of you are aware, I already control the fedoraserver.rhcloud.com namespace. We are using it to host http://reviewboard-fedoraserver.rhcloud.com/ for the development of rolekit and any other Fedora Server related project that wants to use it.
I understand that the ideal situation would be to have our services maintained by Fedora Infrastructure, but due to resource constraints (not least because the Infra guys are already overworked), do we feel that using the public OpenShift infrastructure would be sufficient at this time? We should be able to migrate if the Fedora Infrastructure ever starts offering Cantas.
I'm going to throw together a test deployment of it today that we can try out.
On Mon, 01 Dec 2014 07:52:02 -0500 Stephen Gallagher sgallagh@redhat.com wrote:
On Wed, 2014-11-26 at 16:22 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 03:50:39PM -0500, Simo Sorce wrote:
I am not happy to use a non Fedora Infrastructure provided tool for Fedora related work.
I know some people in the Cloud SIG expressed a similar sentiment, and were interested in packaging up and deploying https://github.com/onepiecejs/nodejs-cantas, but there have always been more pressing concerns. Maybe you'd be interested in helping?
Sorry folks, been away for the US holiday with family.
So, Simo makes a valid point (and one I should have considered before going ahead and recommending Trello). We should be striving to use open-source tools to develop the Fedora Server.
The Cantas suggestion is a sensible one. I notice while doing a bit of quick research on it that the Cantas upstream directly supports OpenShift, so we could easily deploy a Cantas server to the public OpenShift cloud that Red Hat has made available to us. As some of you are aware, I already control the fedoraserver.rhcloud.com namespace. We are using it to host http://reviewboard-fedoraserver.rhcloud.com/ for the development of rolekit and any other Fedora Server related project that wants to use it.
I understand that the ideal situation would be to have our services maintained by Fedora Infrastructure, but due to resource constraints (not least because the Infra guys are already overworked), do we feel that using the public OpenShift infrastructure would be sufficient at this time? We should be able to migrate if the Fedora Infrastructure ever starts offering Cantas.
I'm going to throw together a test deployment of it today that we can try out.
+1 to using openshift if this helps fedora infra gain knowledge of how to make it possible to deploy cantas for fedora projects later on.
Simo.
On Mon, 2014-12-01 at 10:05 -0500, Simo Sorce wrote:
On Mon, 01 Dec 2014 07:52:02 -0500 Stephen Gallagher sgallagh@redhat.com wrote:
On Wed, 2014-11-26 at 16:22 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 03:50:39PM -0500, Simo Sorce wrote:
I am not happy to use a non Fedora Infrastructure provided tool for Fedora related work.
I know some people in the Cloud SIG expressed a similar sentiment, and were interested in packaging up and deploying https://github.com/onepiecejs/nodejs-cantas, but there have always been more pressing concerns. Maybe you'd be interested in helping?
Sorry folks, been away for the US holiday with family.
So, Simo makes a valid point (and one I should have considered before going ahead and recommending Trello). We should be striving to use open-source tools to develop the Fedora Server.
The Cantas suggestion is a sensible one. I notice while doing a bit of quick research on it that the Cantas upstream directly supports OpenShift, so we could easily deploy a Cantas server to the public OpenShift cloud that Red Hat has made available to us. As some of you are aware, I already control the fedoraserver.rhcloud.com namespace. We are using it to host http://reviewboard-fedoraserver.rhcloud.com/ for the development of rolekit and any other Fedora Server related project that wants to use it.
I understand that the ideal situation would be to have our services maintained by Fedora Infrastructure, but due to resource constraints (not least because the Infra guys are already overworked), do we feel that using the public OpenShift infrastructure would be sufficient at this time? We should be able to migrate if the Fedora Infrastructure ever starts offering Cantas.
I'm going to throw together a test deployment of it today that we can try out.
+1 to using openshift if this helps fedora infra gain knowledge of how to make it possible to deploy cantas for fedora projects later on.
OK, so it took two weeks to shake out a few bugs, but we now have a Cantas instance up and running[1].
I imported the cards we had on trello.com into a Fedora Server general board[2], so we can work from there.
Right now, unfortunately I cannot tie it to the Fedora Infrastructure. Cantas upstream supports only two authentication mechanisms: Kerberos and Google Accounts. Fedora Infrastructure doesn't support Kerberos at this time, so the only alternative we have for right now is to use Google Accounts.
I've opened a ticket with Cantas upstream to add OpenID support (which they appear to be willing to do)[3]. When that happens, we'll pull it in and switch over. I hope this proves a more acceptable solution for our development.
[1] http://cantas-fedoraserver.rhcloud.com/ [2] http://cantas-fedoraserver.rhcloud.com/board/548f10f5cca1fb0000000002/Fedora... [3]
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