Hey all,
As the Ceph team dives deeper and deeper into the multi-headed distro world I'm looking to gather anecdotal evidence of what the Ceph user experience is like on various distros. If anyone here is running (or has run) Ceph on some flavor of Fedora, I'd love to hear about it.
My hope is that we can work with the Fedora community to polish off any difficulties or awkwardness that may still exist. Thanks!
Best Regards,
Patrick McGarry Director Ceph Community || Red Hat http://ceph.com || http://community.redhat.com @scuttlemonkey || @ceph
Patrick,
I¹m from PNNL and we¹ve been running ceph for between 5-7 years. We are a RedHat shop and have used Ceph for two applications quite successfully during that time. We run several HPC systems using CentOS/SL and capture performance data into Ceph for permanent storage for the life of the system. Over the last 2 years we¹ve been running a small/medium Openstack cluster backed by Ceph as well.
As all of the usage I¹m aware of is US DOE open research, so we are perfectly willing to have more in-depth conversation about this if anyone is interested. However, I¹ll leave that up to the fedora list as to whether they want to have it on the list or not.
Please feel free email me directly about this we are happy to share whatever information people are interested in about Ceph and Openstack.
Thanks, - David Brown
On 1/15/15, 7:22 AM, "Patrick McGarry" pmcgarry@redhat.com wrote:
Hey all,
As the Ceph team dives deeper and deeper into the multi-headed distro world I'm looking to gather anecdotal evidence of what the Ceph user experience is like on various distros. If anyone here is running (or has run) Ceph on some flavor of Fedora, I'd love to hear about it.
My hope is that we can work with the Fedora community to polish off any difficulties or awkwardness that may still exist. Thanks!
Best Regards,
Patrick McGarry Director Ceph Community || Red Hat http://ceph.com || http://community.redhat.com @scuttlemonkey || @ceph _______________________________________________ server mailing list server@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/server
David,
Awesome, this is great information. If you'd be interested in writing up some of the details of your work and experience I'd be happy to post it under your name (or mine with attribution). If you wouldn't have time for this I'd love to get a brief outline from you and put together some questions that I could use to write a piece. We love featuring our users and their awesome work. Let me know what you might have time/appetite for. Thanks so much!
Best Regards,
Patrick McGarry Director Ceph Community || Red Hat http://ceph.com || http://community.redhat.com @scuttlemonkey || @ceph
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 1:10 PM, Brown, David M JR david.brown@pnnl.gov wrote:
Patrick,
I¹m from PNNL and we¹ve been running ceph for between 5-7 years. We are a RedHat shop and have used Ceph for two applications quite successfully during that time. We run several HPC systems using CentOS/SL and capture performance data into Ceph for permanent storage for the life of the system. Over the last 2 years we¹ve been running a small/medium Openstack cluster backed by Ceph as well.
As all of the usage I¹m aware of is US DOE open research, so we are perfectly willing to have more in-depth conversation about this if anyone is interested. However, I¹ll leave that up to the fedora list as to whether they want to have it on the list or not.
Please feel free email me directly about this we are happy to share whatever information people are interested in about Ceph and Openstack.
Thanks,
- David Brown
On 1/15/15, 7:22 AM, "Patrick McGarry" pmcgarry@redhat.com wrote:
Hey all,
As the Ceph team dives deeper and deeper into the multi-headed distro world I'm looking to gather anecdotal evidence of what the Ceph user experience is like on various distros. If anyone here is running (or has run) Ceph on some flavor of Fedora, I'd love to hear about it.
My hope is that we can work with the Fedora community to polish off any difficulties or awkwardness that may still exist. Thanks!
Best Regards,
Patrick McGarry Director Ceph Community || Red Hat http://ceph.com || http://community.redhat.com @scuttlemonkey || @ceph _______________________________________________ server mailing list server@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/server
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Okay then,
This is probably in need of a presentation somewhere and some slides, but here goes…
We got into using Ceph early on as the features were something that was useful for our performance gathering we did on our HPC systems. We used to collect metrics using Ganglia or Collectl and aggregate them into a PostgreSQL server, a big one. The issue with that system was the queries tended to take a long time and we had a very specific set of patterns we used to access the data. Not that PostgreSQL isn’t the greatest database on the planet as we did abuse it quite heavily and it did exactly what it was supposed to do. There were a few things that drove us away from PostgreSQL. First, was the transactional nature of SQL wasn’t needed. Most of the time we were processing the performance data after the job ends to produce graphs for use later. Users don’t do a lot of interactive performance monitoring with these metrics at our site. Second was the scalability of the SQL system, we had been tracking 2,000 nodes each with about 180 metrics being collected every minute and we wanted that for 5-6 years. With that much data you are going to get a cluster of systems so what’s easier for us to deal with? Ceph.
The current process we use to capture the metrics starts with Collectd. We then funnel the data to Ceph though a custom software, NWPerf. We then have a data formatter that can aggregate the data into static files that can be copied locally or shared over HTTP. The formatter can generate static files for individual jobs or for the entire cluster. The visualization software (CView) then reads those static files and displays the output in an OpenGL context so that application performance bottlenecks can be discovered more easily.
We’ve also used the performance metrics to make more education decisions about future procurements. This information is invaluable for us when evaluating whether we need more storage, faster storage, more network, lower latency network, etc. The process we use to do this is more manual as we only need to ask these questions every 4-5 years.
Ceph is the backbone storage for this data as its scalable. We can attack performance gathering as well as extracting information out of that data in a fault tolerant and parallel way.
Furthermore, Ceph is being used as the backend storage for our OpenStack cluster. It’s a small 12 node micro-cloud from SuperMicro. We’ve extended Ceph to these nodes and run one OSD per disk on those systems. Cinder and Swift are both backed by Ceph and integrate quite nicely with a qemu-kvm built against the librbd layer of Ceph. We are figuring out how to use OpenStack at our site and what benefits it will provide us. There are several pushes to deploy OpenStack clusters at PNNL in both the operations area as well as the research area.
We are very interested in what RedHat is planning to do with Inktank and its involvement with Ceph as we depend on it quite a lot.
Thanks, hopefully this was helpful.
- David Brown
________________________________________ From: server-bounces@lists.fedoraproject.org [server-bounces@lists.fedoraproject.org] on behalf of Patrick McGarry [pmcgarry@redhat.com] Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 11:06 AM To: server@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: Anyone running Ceph?
David,
Awesome, this is great information. If you'd be interested in writing up some of the details of your work and experience I'd be happy to post it under your name (or mine with attribution). If you wouldn't have time for this I'd love to get a brief outline from you and put together some questions that I could use to write a piece. We love featuring our users and their awesome work. Let me know what you might have time/appetite for. Thanks so much!
Best Regards,
Patrick McGarry Director Ceph Community || Red Hat http://ceph.com || http://community.redhat.com @scuttlemonkey || @ceph
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 1:10 PM, Brown, David M JR david.brown@pnnl.gov wrote:
Patrick,
I¹m from PNNL and we¹ve been running ceph for between 5-7 years. We are a RedHat shop and have used Ceph for two applications quite successfully during that time. We run several HPC systems using CentOS/SL and capture performance data into Ceph for permanent storage for the life of the system. Over the last 2 years we¹ve been running a small/medium Openstack cluster backed by Ceph as well.
As all of the usage I¹m aware of is US DOE open research, so we are perfectly willing to have more in-depth conversation about this if anyone is interested. However, I¹ll leave that up to the fedora list as to whether they want to have it on the list or not.
Please feel free email me directly about this we are happy to share whatever information people are interested in about Ceph and Openstack.
Thanks,
- David Brown
On 1/15/15, 7:22 AM, "Patrick McGarry" pmcgarry@redhat.com wrote:
Hey all,
As the Ceph team dives deeper and deeper into the multi-headed distro world I'm looking to gather anecdotal evidence of what the Ceph user experience is like on various distros. If anyone here is running (or has run) Ceph on some flavor of Fedora, I'd love to hear about it.
My hope is that we can work with the Fedora community to polish off any difficulties or awkwardness that may still exist. Thanks!
Best Regards,
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