So yesterday a bug[1] showed up where someone installed Fedora Server on a laptop using the network install media over a WiFI connection and after startup did not have the proper packages to use WiFI in the installed system.
This was part of a conscious decision in the past that WiFI was not commonly present on server hardware. That being said, do we want to make it available as an optional comps group and include it on the DVD media? This will likely increase the size of the DVD (though probably not by much, since most of the required packages are already required by Anaconda). I'm leaning towards yes, but the alternative would be to somehow document the lack of WiFI out-of-the-box better.
On Friday, June 12, 2015 08:54:55 AM Stephen Gallagher wrote:
So yesterday a bug[1] showed up where someone installed Fedora Server on a laptop using the network install media over a WiFI connection and after startup did not have the proper packages to use WiFI in the installed system.
This was part of a conscious decision in the past that WiFI was not commonly present on server hardware. That being said, do we want to make it available as an optional comps group and include it on the DVD media? This will likely increase the size of the DVD (though probably not by much, since most of the required packages are already required by Anaconda). I'm leaning towards yes, but the alternative would be to somehow document the lack of WiFI out-of-the-box better.
just because anaconda requires the packages does not mean that the size will not increase. anaconda's requirement means they get installed into the filesystem for the anaconda runtime. you need to add the rpms into the package set. I think it is fair and reasonable to include wifi support by default. you have two choices I think. always install wifi support, or teach anaconda to detect the presence of wifi hardware and install wifi support then
Dennis
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From: "Stephen Gallagher" sgallagh@redhat.com To: "Server SIG" server@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 8:54:55 AM Subject: Hardware support on Fedora Server DVD
So yesterday a bug[1] showed up where someone installed Fedora Server on a laptop using the network install media over a WiFI connection and after startup did not have the proper packages to use WiFI in the installed system.
This was part of a conscious decision in the past that WiFI was not commonly present on server hardware. That being said, do we want to make it available as an optional comps group and include it on the DVD media? This will likely increase the size of the DVD (though probably not by much, since most of the required packages are already required by Anaconda). I'm leaning towards yes, but the alternative would be to somehow document the lack of WiFI out-of-the-box better.
"Home servers" may use wifi only (I have one such machine, but I installed it on wired and then configured wifi). So I would be in favor of adding wireless drivers to the image.
Simo.
On 06/12/2015 10:10 AM, Simo Sorce wrote:
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From: "Stephen Gallagher" sgallagh@redhat.com To: "Server SIG" server@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 8:54:55 AM Subject: Hardware support on Fedora Server DVD
So yesterday a bug[1] showed up where someone installed Fedora Server on a laptop using the network install media over a WiFI connection and after startup did not have the proper packages to use WiFI in the installed system.
This was part of a conscious decision in the past that WiFI was not commonly present on server hardware. That being said, do we want to make it available as an optional comps group and include it on the DVD media? This will likely increase the size of the DVD (though probably not by much, since most of the required packages are already required by Anaconda). I'm leaning towards yes, but the alternative would be to somehow document the lack of WiFI out-of-the-box better.
"Home servers" may use wifi only (I have one such machine, but I installed it on wired and then configured wifi). So I would be in favor of adding wireless drivers to the image.
Simo.
I suggest creating a "server-wifi-support" comps group to be made visible/available in the extra packages spoke of anaconda. The standard hardware-support comp group that contains the wifi drivers for the other products also contain a few things we don't want/need, such as:
gpsd iscan-firmware isight-firmware-tools libifp multican openct opensc pcsc-lite pcsc-lite-ccid
Dan
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