On Tue, 2018-07-17 at 15:09 -0600, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote:
On Mon, 2018-07-16 at 17:32 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
Basic:
"The installed system must be able appropriately to install, remove, and update software with the default console tool for the relevant software type (e.g. default console package manager). This includes downloading of packages to be installed/updated."
Just a small typo/grammar correction I think.
"The installed system must be able to appropriately install, remove, and update.."
just moved the 'to' infront of appropriately.. Apologies if that's a dumb thing to nit-pick. Otherwise looks good to me.
This is the old English grammatical chestnut known as the "split infinitive" (or rather, in the case of my draft, the infinitive is intentionally *not* split).
Both forms are used, and mean the same. The one I chose is sometimes considered the more 'classically' correct, and some stick-in-the-muds consider your form to be incorrect. Wikipedia has quite a good article on it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Split_infinitive
I instinctively like the non-split form here because, to me, it emphasizes more clearly that "appropriately" applies to all three actions.
On Tue, 2018-07-17 at 14:48 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
I instinctively like the non-split form here because, to me, it emphasizes more clearly that "appropriately" applies to all three actions.
To be clearer here, consider these options:
"...to appropriately install, remove and update..." "...to install, remove and update appropriately..." "...appropriately to install, remove and update..."
To me, it's at least possible that someone might read the first as if the "appropriately" applies only to the action "install", and the second as if the "appropriately" applies only to the action "update". The third, however, can't really be understood in any way *other* than with "appropriately" applying to all three actions.
On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 3:53 PM, Adam Williamson adamwill@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Tue, 2018-07-17 at 14:48 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
I instinctively like the non-split form here because, to me, it emphasizes more clearly that "appropriately" applies to all three actions.
To be clearer here, consider these options:
"...to appropriately install, remove and update..." "...to install, remove and update appropriately..." "...appropriately to install, remove and update..."
To me, it's at least possible that someone might read the first as if the "appropriately" applies only to the action "install", and the second as if the "appropriately" applies only to the action "update". The third, however, can't really be understood in any way *other* than with "appropriately" applying to all three actions.
Use a colon.
to appropriately: install, remove, and update...
Unambiguous.
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