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Re: [Ambassadors] [Logs] A friendly reminder, the next biweekly APAC meeting is on Saturday, March 17th, 2012 at 04:00 UTC. :)‏
by Ankur Sinha 17 Mar '12

17 Mar '12

On Tue, 2012-03-13 at 22:46 -0400, David Ramsey wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > A friendly reminder, the next biweekly APAC meeting is on Saturday, > March 17th, 2012 at 04:00 UTC. :)‏ Please find the meeting summary, and the logs for the meeting below: == Meeting summary == --------------- * Ambassador Pinging (tuanta, 03:59:38) * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2012-03-17#Agenda (udinnet, 04:00:25) * News from FAmSCo (tuanta, 04:02:04) * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User_talk:Cwickert/Proposed_FAmSCo_election_r… (bckurera, 04:03:54) * Review *ACTION* items from the last meeting (tuanta, 04:07:05) * A proposal to make APAC more centralized (eg: trac..) (tuanta, 04:18:07) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/20 (bckurera, 04:19:06) * LINK: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2012-March/019219.html (udinnet, 04:20:42) * ACTION: all APAC FAms, please have a look on APAC trac proposal and comment (apac ticket #20) (bckurera, 04:26:52) * APAC Trac for Regional Support (tuanta, 04:27:55) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/19 (bckurera, 04:29:37) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Party_F17_Taichung (Suresh, 04:38:26) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Party_F17_Taichung (zerng07, 04:38:53) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Party_F17_Taichung (bckurera, 04:39:45) * AGREED: (dramsey, 04:40:08) * AGREED: Funding ticket #19 (bckurera, 04:41:39) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/21 (bckurera, 04:43:18) * APAC Events and Status of F17 Release Parties (dramsey) (tuanta, 04:45:23) * If you want to get your ticket discussed please participate to the meetings (bckurera, 04:45:37) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F17_release_events (dramsey, 04:45:41) * LINK: http://rbergero.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-17/f-17-ambassadors-tasks.html (dramsey, 04:46:01) * ACTION: update all scheduled F17 release parties to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F17_release_events (tuanta, 04:48:54) * fudconkl funding request is open, dateline extended to 27th March (KageSenshi, 04:50:27) * ACTION: All once the site is up (approx 20th March), please spread the news about fudcon apac in your respective countries :) (KageSenshi, 04:54:13) * Fedora Participation (dramsey as well as others who want to voice their ideas) (tuanta, 05:04:55) * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2012-03-17#Fedora_Pa… (dramsey, 05:09:18) * AGREED: APAC will have weekly meeting until FUDCon KL 2012 (tuanta, 05:10:00) * Open Floor (tuanta, 05:11:50) * ACTION: tuanta create a wiki page to keep a list of should-be discussed things face to face in FUDCon KL (tuanta, 05:16:07) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2012-03-24 (bckurera, 05:19:34) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GSOC_2012 (bckurera, 05:20:16) * remember to keep the meeting agenda focused and light (within an hour) (tuanta, 05:24:08) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ (bckurera, 05:24:17) * http://fedora.my/events/fudconkl-testsite/ < give inputs / bugreports :) (KageSenshi, 05:24:42) * If you want any F16 media please open up a ticket at the apac trac (bckurera, 05:25:13) * IDEA: keep the meeting agenda almost blank, then attendees would add needed items later (tuanta, 05:27:39) Meeting ended at 05:28:45 UTC. Action Items ------------ * all APAC FAms, please have a look on APAC trac proposal and comment (apac ticket #20) * update all scheduled F17 release parties to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F17_release_events * All once the site is up (approx 20th March), please spread the news about fudcon apac in your respective countries :) * tuanta create a wiki page to keep a list of should-be discussed things face to face in FUDCon KL Action Items, by person ----------------------- * tuanta * tuanta create a wiki page to keep a list of should-be discussed things face to face in FUDCon KL * **UNASSIGNED** * all APAC FAms, please have a look on APAC trac proposal and comment (apac ticket #20) * update all scheduled F17 release parties to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F17_release_events * All once the site is up (approx 20th March), please spread the news about fudcon apac in your respective countries :) == Logs == http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-03-17/apac.2012-03-17-… http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-03-17/apac.2012-03-17-… http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-03-17/apac.2012-03-17-… -- Thanks, Regards, Ankur: "FranciscoD" http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha http://dodoincfedora.wordpress.com/

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F17 Beta Blocker Bug Review #3 minutes
by Tim Flink 16 Mar '12

16 Mar '12

============================================= #fedora-bugzappers: F17-beta-blocker-review-3 ============================================= Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-03-16/f17-beta-bloc… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-03-16/f17-beta-bloc… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-03-16/f17-beta-bloc… Meeting summary --------------- * roll call (tflink, 17:00:40) * introduction (tflink, 17:07:55) * Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs. (tflink, 17:08:23) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_17_Beta_Release_Criteria (tflink, 17:08:38) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting (tflink, 17:08:38) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers (tflink, 17:09:02) * 8 proposed blockers (tflink, 17:09:15) * 9 accepted blockers (tflink, 17:09:15) * 0 proposed NTH (tflink, 17:09:15) * (538499) IPv6-only network attachment fails, due to IPv4 addressing being considered mandatory (tflink, 17:10:14) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=538499 (tflink, 17:10:17) * Proposed Blocker, ASSIGNED (tflink, 17:10:20) * AGREED: 538499 - AcceptedBlocker - The installed system must be able to download and install updates with yum and the default graphical package manager in all release-blocking desktops (tflink, 17:15:17) * (798697) The default IPv6 mode is "Ignore" for implicit/ifcfg-less connection profiles (e.g. wired ethernet) (tflink, 17:15:26) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=798697 (tflink, 17:15:30) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:15:32) * AGREED: - 798697 - AcceptedBlocker - The installed system must be able to download and install updates with yum and the default graphical package manager in all release-blocking desktops (tflink, 17:19:49) * (753421) FSError: failed to get block size for ext4 filesystem on /dev/md127 (tflink, 17:19:59) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753421 (tflink, 17:20:02) * Proposed Blocker, ASSIGNED (tflink, 17:20:04) * AGREED: - 753421 - RejectedBlocker - Our current understanding of the bug is that it is more isolated than previously thought but verification with 16 to 17 upgrade using sw RAID would be good (tflink, 17:24:55) * (802241) system halts at first reboot after installation with specific kickstart file (tflink, 17:25:04) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=802241 (tflink, 17:25:07) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:25:10) * AGREED: - 802241 - RejectedBlocker - This is an issue with either comps or the kickstart file as written and not with the kickstart system itself. Therefore this bug does not violate any criteria for beta. (tflink, 17:32:43) * (770197) Shell runs on GeForce2 MX, but it is too buggy to be usable (tflink, 17:32:50) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=770197 (tflink, 17:32:54) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:32:56) * AGREED: 770197 - RejectedBlocker (Beta) AcceptedBlocker (Final) AcceptedNTH (Beta) - While this does prevent affected systems from using gnome-shell, those systems are assumed to be few enough in number that this doesn't need to be a beta blocker (tflink, 17:43:24) * (802106) ipw2200 bg doesn't work in f17 (tflink, 17:43:33) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=802106 (tflink, 17:43:33) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:43:33) * ACTION: tflink to search smolt for numbers on ipw2200 (tflink, 17:54:07) * AGREED: - 802106 - AcceptedNTH - While this is an older wireless chipset, it was very common and a well tested fix would be accepted (tflink, 17:54:42) * (803086) libosinfo depends on perl (tflink, 17:54:55) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=803086 (tflink, 17:54:56) * Proposed Blocker, ON_QA (tflink, 17:54:56) * AGREED: 803086 - RejectedBlocker - Unless the extra packages cause the live images to go over 700M, this doesn't hit any release criteria (tflink, 17:57:36) * (745202) gnome-shell does not display correctly with many NV3x and NV4x adapters (tflink, 17:57:43) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=745202 (tflink, 17:57:46) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:57:48) * AGREED: - 745202 - AcceptedBlocker - after firstboot is completed and on subsequent boots, a system installed according to any of the above criteria must boot to a working graphical environment without unintended user intervention. This includes correctly accessing any encrypted partitions when the correct passphrase is supplied (tflink, 18:05:50) * (801782) Updates notification doesn't show up (tflink, 18:06:52) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=801782 (tflink, 18:06:53) * Accepted Blocker, ASSIGNED (tflink, 18:06:53) * AGREED: - 801782 - This needs to be re-tested in order to verify whether or not this is a bug or not (tflink, 18:09:52) * (742207) No usable bootloader option during a text mode f15->f16 upgrade (tflink, 18:10:10) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=742207 (tflink, 18:10:14) * Accepted Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 18:10:16) * bug has been reported to be fixed, waiting for re-test with official builds/images before closing (tflink, 18:11:03) * (787893) Anaconda needs to handle /usr move preparation on upgrade for F17 (tflink, 18:11:15) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=787893 (tflink, 18:11:19) * Accepted Blocker, ON_QA (tflink, 18:11:21) * fix is in anaconda-17.12 which should be in F17 beta TC1, this needs to be retested in order to verify the fix (tflink, 18:13:25) * (796155) iface_ip2str returned NULL (tflink, 18:13:49) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=796155 (tflink, 18:13:49) * Accepted Blocker, NEW (tflink, 18:13:49) * this bug is hopefully fixed with the noloader functionaltiy that should land soon, this needs to be retested with new anaconda builds (tflink, 18:15:09) * (798373) live image failed to boot in 3 runlevel (tflink, 18:15:33) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=798373 (tflink, 18:15:33) * Accepted Blocker, ON_QA (tflink, 18:15:33) * new build has been created, waiting for re-testing before confirming fix (tflink, 18:18:03) * (736993) error install bootloader with serial interface install (tflink, 18:19:07) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=736993 (tflink, 18:19:10) * Accepted Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 18:19:13) * update containing the fix for this has been submitted, needs testing in order to verify fix (tflink, 18:20:40) * (800205) kernel panic after running preupgrade (tflink, 18:21:12) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=800205 (tflink, 18:21:12) * Accepted Blocker, ASSIGNED (tflink, 18:21:12) * hopefully, this will be fixed with the noloader anaconda build and needs re-testing once that lands (tflink, 18:24:26) * (591630) DHCPv6 responses are not allowed by default ip6tables ruleset (tflink, 18:24:37) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=591630 (tflink, 18:24:41) * Accepted Blocker, ASSIGNED (tflink, 18:24:43) * a fix is being worked on, will need to re-test once a new build is available (tflink, 18:29:53) * request update in BZ so that we can better track progress of this bug (tflink, 18:30:31) * (754568) [abrt] gnome-shell-3.2.1-6.fc17: _int_free: Process /usr/bin/gnome-shell was killed by signal 11 (SIGSEGV) (tflink, 18:30:42) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=754568 (tflink, 18:30:45) * Accepted Blocker, ON_QA (tflink, 18:30:48) * a fix for this is available, re-testing is needed (tflink, 18:31:34) * open floor (tflink, 18:33:01) * F17 Beta Blocker Bug Review #4 will be on 2012-03-23 @ 17:00 UTC (tflink, 18:36:29) Meeting ended at 18:43:52 UTC. Action Items ------------ * tflink to search smolt for numbers on ipw2200 Action Items, by person ----------------------- * tflink * tflink to search smolt for numbers on ipw2200 * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * tflink (181) * adamw (107) * brunowolff (26) * bugbot_ (17) * drago01 (16) * zodbot (6) * bcl (5) * nirik (1) * spot (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Minutes/Summary from today's Fedora Infrastructure meeting (2012-03-15)
by Kevin Fenzi 15 Mar '12

15 Mar '12

============================================ #fedora-meeting: Infrastructure (2012-03-15) ============================================ Meeting started by nirik at 19:00:00 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-03-15/infrastructure.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * Robot Roll Call (nirik, 19:00:01) * New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks (nirik, 19:03:27) * sysadmin folks should file any easyfix tickets they can think of we need fixed (nirik, 19:09:42) * two factor auth status (nirik, 19:11:45) * ACTION: wolfkit is going to work on cleaning up pam_url for us. (nirik, 19:12:56) * then we can move to testing deployment. (nirik, 19:13:03) * Staging re-work status (nirik, 19:13:50) * proposal for workflow in post staging branch life on list. Please comment. (nirik, 19:14:58) * Applications status / discussion (nirik, 19:16:48) * Upcoming Tasks/Items (nirik, 19:19:14) * 2012-03-20 to 2012-04-03 - F17 Beta Freeze (nirik, 19:19:14) * 2012-03-27 - drop inactive maintainers from packages. (nirik, 19:19:14) * 2012-04-01 - nag fi-apprentices. (nirik, 19:19:14) * 2012-04-03 - F17Beta release day (nirik, 19:19:14) * 2011-04-03 - gitweb-cache removal day. (nirik, 19:19:14) * 2012-04-10 - drop inactive fi-apprentices (nirik, 19:19:16) * 2012-04-24 to 2012-05-08 - F17 Final Freeze. (nirik, 19:19:18) * 2012-05-01 - nag fi-apprentices. (nirik, 19:19:20) * 2012-05-08 - F17 release (nirik, 19:19:22) * Tickets from Ages past (nirik, 19:23:23) * AGREED: will close ticket 1882. (nirik, 19:27:51) * Open Floor (nirik, 19:36:28) Meeting ended at 19:41:07 UTC. Action Items ------------ * wolfkit is going to work on cleaning up pam_url for us. Action Items, by person ----------------------- * wolfkit * wolfkit is going to work on cleaning up pam_url for us. * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * nirik (104) * pingou (19) * marcelk1985 (15) * skvidal (13) * wolfkit (10) * CodeBlock (8) * LinuxCode (7) * zodbot (6) * smooge (4) * kwame (4) * dgilmore (4) * davevz (1) * ianweller (1) * abadger1999 (0) * lmacken (0) * ricky (0) * mdomsch (0) * Codeblock (0) -- 19:00:00 <nirik> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2012-03-15) 19:00:00 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Mar 15 19:00:00 2012 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:00:00 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 19:00:01 <nirik> #meetingname infrastructure 19:00:01 <nirik> #topic Robot Roll Call 19:00:01 <nirik> #chair smooge skvidal Codeblock ricky nirik abadger1999 lmacken dgilmore mdomsch 19:00:01 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure' 19:00:01 <zodbot> Current chairs: Codeblock abadger1999 dgilmore lmacken mdomsch nirik ricky skvidal smooge 19:00:09 <nirik> who all is around for infra meeting? 19:00:25 * skvidal is here 19:00:33 * skvidal is also on the phone so I may be a bit slow in replying 19:00:38 <marcelk1985> hi! i am here 19:00:49 <marcelk1985> Very excited 19:01:04 * kwame in da room 19:01:14 <smooge> here 19:01:51 * pingou 19:02:09 <CodeBlock> here 19:02:24 * dgilmore waves 19:02:38 <nirik> welcome everyone. 19:03:00 <wolfkit> here :) 19:03:13 <nirik> lets go ahead and dive in... 19:03:27 <nirik> #topic New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks 19:03:29 <nirik> If any new folks want to give a quick one line bio or any apprentices 19:03:29 <nirik> would like to ask general questions, they can do so here. 19:04:16 <nirik> anyone new want to give a quick bio/intro? any apprentice questions? 19:04:18 <marcelk1985> I am definitely new here. Abbreviated I do a lot of networking/network security and linux. Hoping to be useful for the Fedora Project 19:04:26 <nirik> welcome marcelk1985 19:04:49 <wolfkit> I'm new here too. I've been poking around different parts of Fedora, am interested in docs and infra 19:05:06 <marcelk1985> oh and I do a lot of Nagios :-) 19:05:25 <nirik> marcelk1985: you might be able to look at ticket 3191 and give some input... mangas and ctria were working on it too, and I think we have a plan, but if you know nagios well you might have a better suggestion. 19:05:37 <wolfkit> been using Fedora since fc3, so have lots of admin experience with it, hoping maybe I can contribute back to it :D 19:05:38 <nirik> wolfkit: welcome. 19:05:57 <nirik> wolfkit: are you more interested in sysadmin stuff? or application development? 19:06:08 <skvidal> nirik: he's offered to help me with pam_url 19:06:09 <skvidal> :) 19:06:19 <nirik> oh, nice. :) 19:06:25 <nirik> we def want to clean that up... 19:06:26 <wolfkit> well I'm a developer by trade, so app dev stuff that relates to sysadmin is probably my area 19:06:34 <CodeBlock> And I know him outside of Fedora, happy to sponsor him into apprentice 19:06:47 <nirik> great. 19:07:06 <nirik> welcome again, and do chime in on #fedora-admin/#fedora-noc/#fedora-apps with any questions or ideas... 19:07:07 <dgilmore> wolfkit: i have a new webapp i want to get developed for release engineering tasks 19:07:15 <davevz> I introduced myself briefly last week in #fedora-admin. I've done quite a bit of general admin / puppet stuff. Particularly interested in security work but anything will do 19:07:29 <wolfkit> dgilmore: cool! perhaps we can chat about it after the meeting 19:07:42 <kwame> Hi, my name is Dan Bahena (aka Kwame), just joined to give back to the community from which I've received so much, I'm currently working as a L3 Linux Engineer, I'm from México http://kwame.informatux.net my blog :-) I've been a linux user since ... I guess mid 90's :-) 19:07:45 <dgilmore> wolfkit: sure drop into #fedora-releng and we can talk 19:08:09 <nirik> excellent. Lots of folks. ;) 19:08:18 <marcelk1985> hi kwame 19:08:23 <kwame> marcelk1985: hey 19:08:42 <nirik> As a side note for existing sysadmin folks: if you can think of small tasks for apprentices/easyfix tasks, please do file them and mark them... we need more to choose from I think... 19:08:57 <marcelk1985> i think so too ;) 19:09:00 <nirik> updating docs, checking scripts, doing things we just never get around to that are easy are all good to mark for that. 19:09:42 <nirik> #info sysadmin folks should file any easyfix tickets they can think of we need fixed 19:09:52 <marcelk1985> please do! 19:10:11 <pingou> dgilmore: #fedora-apps ? 19:10:23 <nirik> new folks do see me after the meeting in #fedora-admin and we can get you setup in the fi-apprentice group or point you to application easyfix stuff to work on. 19:10:42 * ianweller here 19:10:45 <kwame> nirik: cool 19:10:48 <dgilmore> pingou: not heard of that one 19:10:56 <marcelk1985> nirik: sure thing 19:10:57 <nirik> dgilmore: it's new. 19:11:02 <pingou> dgilmore: ah, few weeks old but already worth it ;) 19:11:02 <nirik> for infra applications. 19:11:26 <nirik> ok, moving along then unless anything else on this. 19:11:45 <nirik> #topic two factor auth status 19:12:02 <nirik> I guess wolfkit is going to help us clean up pam_url? 19:12:07 <nirik> and then we can move forward? 19:12:22 <wolfkit> I would like to help clean up pam_url, yes 19:12:32 <skvidal> wolfkit: I'll send you a link to the last tarball I had 19:12:42 <nirik> great. Please do. 19:12:56 <nirik> #action wolfkit is going to work on cleaning up pam_url for us. 19:13:03 <nirik> #info then we can move to testing deployment. 19:13:10 <nirik> anything else on 2 factor? 19:13:36 <skvidal> not at the moment 19:13:36 <nirik> moving on then... 19:13:50 <nirik> #topic Staging re-work status 19:13:57 <nirik> so, I worked on this this week 19:14:06 <nirik> I sent out a proposal to the list... 19:14:23 <nirik> I'd like to wait to hear from some of our developers that are our at pycon this week before we implement 19:14:44 <nirik> Hopefully they will be ok with my plan and we can quash our staging branch soon. 19:14:56 <pingou> the current situation still makes use of the stagging branch, right ? 19:14:58 <nirik> #info proposal for workflow in post staging branch life on list. Please comment. 19:15:07 <nirik> pingou: yeah, currently it does. 19:15:11 <pingou> tx 19:15:28 <nirik> In the new setup, it will all be in master... and you can make a modules-staging/ copy of your module to test with on staging machines. 19:16:05 <nirik> and default there will not be a staging module (ie, master and stg are the same except for some small differences inside if $staging) 19:16:23 <nirik> ok, anything else on this? 19:16:48 <nirik> #topic Applications status / discussion 19:16:59 <nirik> any news on our applications this week? 19:17:09 <nirik> note that most of our application folks are at pycon. ;) 19:17:11 <skvidal> :) 19:17:39 <pingou> some bug/rfe fixing in fas 19:17:52 <nirik> I managed to fix some rhel6 issues with some apps in the last few weeks. 19:17:53 * CodeBlock doesn't have much of an update on search... search-dev.fp.o is still up, people are free to comment on it... need to get back to working on that though. 19:17:58 <pingou> I'm working on the module for gather-easyfix 19:18:01 <nirik> I hope we are all ok now running on rhel6. 19:18:13 <nirik> CodeBlock: how's the crawler? 19:18:35 <CodeBlock> nirik: I think it is mostly done with docs/wiki, will add in some other sites soon 19:18:41 <nirik> ok. 19:19:00 <nirik> ok, moving along then... 19:19:14 <nirik> #topic Upcoming Tasks/Items 19:19:14 <nirik> #info 2012-03-20 to 2012-04-03 - F17 Beta Freeze 19:19:14 <nirik> #info 2012-03-27 - drop inactive maintainers from packages. 19:19:14 <nirik> #info 2012-04-01 - nag fi-apprentices. 19:19:14 <nirik> #info 2012-04-03 - F17Beta release day 19:19:14 <nirik> #info 2011-04-03 - gitweb-cache removal day. 19:19:16 <nirik> #info 2012-04-10 - drop inactive fi-apprentices 19:19:18 <nirik> #info 2012-04-24 to 2012-05-08 - F17 Final Freeze. 19:19:20 <nirik> #info 2012-05-01 - nag fi-apprentices. 19:19:22 <nirik> #info 2012-05-08 - F17 release 19:19:28 <nirik> any upcoming tasks people would like to schedule / note? 19:19:41 <nirik> I'll point out we are going into Beta freeze next week. 19:19:49 <pingou> - drop inactive maintainers from packages. -> if there gonna be a last email regarding the packages ? 19:19:54 <pingou> s/if/is/ 19:20:03 <nirik> so, if there are things you want to do before tuesday, please consider doing them. 19:20:28 <nirik> pingou: there would be... these are people that we nagged and nagged and don't change their ssh key... I'm not even sure how many are packagers. 19:20:46 <nirik> skvidal was going to nag some more via phone I think? 19:20:50 <pingou> good :) 19:21:30 <skvidal> nirik: I pingedat people I could find on irc 19:21:38 <skvidal> nirik: I haven't gotten anyone on the phone :) 19:21:48 <smooge> yeah beta freeze 19:21:52 <nirik> ok. Did it do any good? 19:22:04 <skvidal> nirik:not that Ican tell :) 19:22:19 <skvidal> nirik: lemme have one more week 19:22:33 <nirik> sure. 19:22:57 <nirik> ok, any other items to schedule/note? 19:23:23 <nirik> #topic Tickets from Ages past 19:23:39 <nirik> so, anyone like to note and discuss an old ticket? 19:23:44 * nirik has one... 19:23:56 <nirik> .ticket 1882 19:23:58 <zodbot> nirik: #1882 (FreeNode node) – Fedora Infrastructure - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1882 19:24:09 <nirik> we aren't planning on ever doing this are we? so, close? 19:24:49 <marcelk1985> well 19:25:11 <marcelk1985> are you asking if someone would/cozld host an ircd? 19:25:25 <marcelk1985> *could 19:25:29 <smooge> I don't think we could offer it with fedora resources 19:25:31 <skvidal> nirik: no, we aren't 19:25:46 <nirik> marcelk1985: the ticket is asking US to host a freenode node. Could we do it? sure. Do we want to? I don't think so. Does freenode need us to? I doubt it. 19:26:05 <CodeBlock> it'd be cool...probably not practical though. 19:26:24 <nirik> It kinda makes you a target too... for DOS, etc... which I don't think we want really. 19:26:27 * CodeBlock is fine with closing it 19:26:30 <wolfkit> freenode has been adding nodes like crazy lately, two a week, I don't think they really "need" it. it'd be great to get Fedora out there, but probably unnecessary 19:26:35 <nirik> also, it means you give root access to an external entity. ;) 19:26:50 <skvidal> nirik: I'm for closing it 19:27:04 * nirik would be happy to revisit if it turns out to be needed or desired. ;) 19:27:21 <nirik> wolfkit: yeah, seems much better than it was back when this ticket was made. 19:27:38 <marcelk1985> I suggest closing it. the security implications are too large if not done right, and the time need in order to do it right is considerable 19:27:51 <nirik> #agreed will close ticket 1882. 19:27:55 * pingou patched #605 19:28:00 <nirik> any other tickets from the past people want to bring up? 19:28:03 <wolfkit> plus, the ircd they use doesn't exactly play nice on cent/rhel (I know from experience chary isn't "happy" on it) 19:28:04 <nirik> .ticket 605 19:28:05 <zodbot> nirik: #605 (FAS2 entry for blog feed) – Fedora Infrastructure - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/605 19:28:07 <LinuxCode> wolfkit, they are adding nodes to combat a DDoS 19:28:54 <nirik> pingou: on that, I think we also would need to change planet scripts to pull from that right? unless it's just informational? 19:29:00 <nirik> and we would need to fix docs. 19:29:03 <pingou> although I allowed only 1 blog/user 19:29:17 <nirik> and populate it from existing .planet files and remove them/note they aren't used. 19:29:40 <pingou> nirik: my thoughts as well, I would add a get_planet_config or something which would return the ini file desired 19:29:52 <nirik> or perhaps look at both? 19:30:43 <nirik> yeah, so needs more working... 19:30:49 <pingou> yup 19:31:37 <pingou> we could do something like: check FAS first, override by .planet 19:31:40 <nirik> any other old tickets to kill off? 19:31:50 <pingou> allow .planet to add one more blog or so 19:31:52 <nirik> pingou: yep. or vice versa 19:32:31 <pingou> so that'll be another ticket :) 19:32:38 <pingou> fix the planet script 19:33:23 <nirik> pingou: sure, blocking that one? 19:33:27 <nirik> how about: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1162 19:33:45 <nirik> patchwork sounds interesting, but perhaps it could be merged into the mailing list rework work stuff. ;) 19:35:10 <pingou> that's an idea 19:36:24 <nirik> ok, if no other dusty tickets... 19:36:28 <nirik> #topic Open Floor 19:36:34 <nirik> Anyone have anything for open floor? 19:37:13 <marcelk1985> what happens during open floor? 19:37:30 <smooge> if you have an issue you would like to bring up. this is the time to do s 19:37:33 <wolfkit> open floor is for general discussion, if you have anything to bring up that wasn't mentioned in the topics 19:37:37 <nirik> marcelk1985: anyone can bring up topics that were not convered before. ;) 19:37:48 <nirik> covered even. Like my poor speeling. 19:37:49 <marcelk1985> oh 19:38:08 <LinuxCode> nirik, ok, your poor spelling is ..appalling! 19:38:11 <LinuxCode> lol 19:38:13 <LinuxCode> jk 19:38:13 <CodeBlock> :) 19:38:18 <nirik> :) 19:38:20 <marcelk1985> very poor speeling ;-) 19:38:26 <wolfkit> action nirik needs to install a spellcheck plugin to his IRC client 19:38:34 <nirik> ha. ;) 19:38:56 <LinuxCode> wolfkit, I have one running and it does not help 19:39:19 <nirik> anyhow, if nothing else, will close out in a minute. 19:39:29 * CodeBlock would imagine it would false trigger a lot on linuxey stuff that isn't necessarily a real word. 19:39:54 <LinuxCode> CodeBlock, no, you just do not look all the time, before you hit the enter key 19:39:57 <LinuxCode> ;-p 19:41:05 <nirik> ok, thanks for coming everyone. :) Do continue in #fedora-admin, #fedora-noc and #fedora-apps 19:41:07 <nirik> #endmeeting

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Summary/Minutes from today's irc support sig meeting (2012-03-15)
by Kevin Fenzi 15 Mar '12

15 Mar '12

============================================= #fedora-meeting: IRC Support SIG (2012-03-15) ============================================= Meeting started by nirik at 16:01:43 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-03-15/irc-support-sig.… Meeting summary --------------- * init process (nirik, 16:01:43) * Week in review (nirik, 16:03:58) * LINK: http://fedora.theglaserfamily.org/ircstats/fedora-weekly.html (nirik, 16:03:59) * Tickets (nirik, 16:06:29) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/report/1 (nirik, 16:06:29) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/101 (nirik, 16:07:00) * Open Floor (nirik, 16:08:44) * AGREED: will put new hopefullly clearer feedback message in place. (nirik, 16:23:43) * LINK: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbLhHtaVIO4 (EvilBob, 16:28:55) Meeting ended at 16:35:23 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * nirik (45) * EvilBob (29) * Sonar_Gal (21) * fenrus02 (16) * A124 (15) * dcr226 (11) * glguy (10) * jfx (8) * Southern_Gentlem (7) * FranciscoD (5) * bodhi_zazen (5) * N3LRX (3) * zodbot (3) * Khaytsus (2) * KolonelPanic (1) * Sonar_Guy (1) * mangas (1) -- 16:01:43 <nirik> #startmeeting IRC Support SIG (2012-03-15) 16:01:43 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Mar 15 16:01:43 2012 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:01:43 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 16:01:43 <nirik> #meetingname irc-support-sig 16:01:43 <nirik> #topic init process 16:01:43 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'irc-support-sig' 16:01:51 * N3LRX 16:02:12 * Sonar_Gal 16:02:30 * fenrus02 16:02:47 <nirik> morning everyone. 16:03:23 * FranciscoD is here 16:03:55 <nirik> I don't have much today, so lets go ahead and dive in 16:03:58 <nirik> #topic Week in review 16:03:59 <nirik> http://fedora.theglaserfamily.org/ircstats/fedora-weekly.html 16:04:24 <nirik> anyone have items from the last week? common bugs or issues? things we should all know or look out for? 16:04:52 <fenrus02> do centos users that try to "fix" their "fedora" host count? :) 16:05:01 <KolonelPanic> lol 16:05:08 <Sonar_Gal> fenrus02, no 16:05:36 * FranciscoD didnt observe anything worth reporting 16:06:10 <nirik> ok, yeah, I think it was a pretty typical week. 16:06:29 <nirik> #topic Tickets 16:06:29 <nirik> https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/report/1 16:06:34 <nirik> we have 1 ticket this week... 16:06:45 <Southern_Gentlem> well i did ban someone last night for repeatedly not wanting to give information and told them that when they wanted help and were willing to cooperate to let me know 16:06:46 <nirik> ticket 101: kudos to bodhi_zazen 16:06:59 <FranciscoD> Kudos++ :) 16:07:00 <nirik> https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/101 16:07:21 <Sonar_Gal> Good job bodhi_zazen 16:07:31 <nirik> yeah, good work. 16:07:42 <glguy> Given what I see from bodhi_zazen in general I suspect he deserves a few more of those 16:07:56 <nirik> yeah, he's great 16:08:44 <nirik> #topic Open Floor 16:08:48 <nirik> any items for open floor? 16:08:52 <Southern_Gentlem> well i did ban someone last night for repeatedly not wanting to give information and told them that when they wanted help and were willing to cooperate to let me know 16:08:52 <A124> The thing might be that most people are not fond of this. 16:08:59 <nirik> questions, concerns, willing lotto tickets? 16:09:09 <nirik> Southern_Gentlem: yeah... happens. 16:09:16 <fenrus02> nirik, i'm willing the lotto ticket but it is still not paying out 16:09:20 <glguy> I'm concerned about a general hostility that seems common in #fedora 16:09:23 <FranciscoD> if only more people read the getting help guidelines 16:09:30 <glguy> and is something that we actively avoid when managing #haskell, for example 16:09:35 <dcr226> nirik, winning horse? got that 16:09:44 <nirik> A124: can you rephrase? not sure what you are saying there/ 16:09:55 <FranciscoD> glguy: would you have an example too? 16:10:04 <nirik> glguy: yeah... we should try and be friendly. How do you suggest we combat that? 16:10:12 <Sonar_Gal> However for us to help them we need to know certain info and if they don't/will not supply that info it's fruitless for us to try to help 16:10:44 <EvilBob> nirik: Kick the users before they get on anyone's nerves 16:10:57 <glguy> I didn't know this meeting existed until I sat down at my computer and nirik announced it, so I'm unfortunately unprepared, but I believe that the issues is related to brilliant people getting a garage of inane questions and burning out on it 16:10:59 * fenrus02 kicks EvilBob 16:11:05 <glguy> barrage* 16:11:13 <glguy> We have a term "help vampire" 16:11:20 <Sonar_Gal> quiet them and explain the info is needed to get the system working properly. Give the link of the help guidelines 16:11:31 <A124> nirik: Sorry. Was response to he positive feedback to bodhi_zazen. 16:11:43 <nirik> really we don't often need to kick anyone... we need to be catalysts and if they are causing problems calmly work them around to help 16:11:46 <Southern_Gentlem> glguy DO NOT Feed the Vampires see http://slash7.com/2006/12/22/vampires/ and http://www.perlmonks.org/index.pl?node_id=542341 16:11:48 <EvilBob> A124: It still made no sense 16:12:05 <nirik> glguy: there are def some of those around... 16:12:07 <A124> Most people don't know about the option to send feedback. 16:12:19 <nirik> A124: ah, well, we do announce it in channel... 16:12:19 <Southern_Gentlem> A124, then they are blind 16:12:28 <EvilBob> A124: then they don't actually read the channel 16:12:30 <glguy> Anyway, it helps to encourage people to step away rather than to lash out. I don't have a panacea to share, but not addressing it won't help the channel 16:12:31 <Southern_Gentlem> every 100 -150 post 16:12:43 <Sonar_Gal> A124, it runs every so often for the feedback 16:13:06 <nirik> glguy: any ideas welcome. ;) yeah, I agree people who get frustrated should take a break... 16:13:14 <EvilBob> @feedback A124 16:13:23 <nirik> we have had sometimes good luck suggesting that. On the other hand some people get hostile about it. ;( 16:14:13 <Sonar_Gal> And yet we are trying to get the feedback to help us to make the channel better 16:14:19 <A124> The thing is, that people ignore it, and they thinks it's only channel feedback, in general. As I though also first. 16:14:35 <dcr226> A124, write it on your hand 16:14:38 <jfx> How do you get an account to that page? (irc-support-sig) 16:14:44 <dcr226> that how I remember phone numbers 16:14:46 <nirik> A124: perhaps we could change it to suggest feedback on people welcome too. 16:14:48 * jfx stares blindly for links 16:15:02 <glguy> I've seen fedbot announce that message many times, but I had no idea that those tickets would be reviewed weekly by the operators 16:15:08 <nirik> jfx: your fedora account... https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/ 16:15:08 <A124> nirik: Yes. That may do the job maybe. 16:15:09 <EvilBob> jfx: It's a Fedora™ Account System account 16:15:21 <jfx> k, thanks! 16:15:32 <nirik> glguy: bummer, sounds like we failed. ;) 16:15:45 <dcr226> glguy, often they are reviewed immediately 16:15:50 <EvilBob> "I didn't know and didn't ask, so it is your fault"? 16:16:04 <Sonar_Gal> yes if we see them we talk about them during the week 16:16:05 * fenrus02 blames EvilBob 16:16:14 <nirik> how about: "Hey, we want to make the channel better. How about dropping us a note and let us know how you feel, good or bad about nicks or issues. https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ (Tickets reviewed weekly)" 16:16:14 * dcr226 checks flash and lennert 16:16:18 <dcr226> fenrus02 +1 16:16:37 <Sonar_Gal> nirik, +1 16:16:42 <Sonar_Guy> nirik: +1 16:16:42 <EvilBob> It is my fault, I rough drafted the current feedback message 16:16:46 <nirik> I thought usrmove was before EvilBob... flash, lennert, usrmove, EvilBob 16:16:47 <glguy> I don't know if EvilBob is talking to me, but my point is just that people might not be filling out tickets because they don't think it will matter 16:17:15 <EvilBob> glguy: There are those that are convinced they don't matter anyhow 16:17:16 <fenrus02> glguy, have you ever filed one? 16:17:16 * nirik is open to suggestions on improving the feedback message to avoid that 16:17:40 <dcr226> nirik, actually yeah, forgot that /me checks usrmove....nah, not that 16:17:43 <glguy> fenrus02: I have not. 16:18:06 <fenrus02> glguy, where did you see that tickets would never be reviewed or commented upon then? 16:18:29 <Sonar_Gal> fenrus02, That's what most would probably think 16:18:30 <EvilBob> "Hey, we want to make the channel better. How about dropping us a note and let us know how you feel the channel is doing, good or bad and give feedback about users or issues also. https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ (Tickets reviewed weekly)" 16:18:32 <nirik> how about this: lets file a ticket on the feedback message and people can comment/brainstorm on improving it over the next week... then we change it when we have a good consensus? 16:18:46 <fenrus02> Sonar_Gal, what's the point in a ticketing system if nobody ever looks at it? why advertise it? 16:19:03 <Sonar_Gal> fenrus02, True but some people actually think like that 16:19:06 <fenrus02> EvilBob, is it worth inserting the mtg time ? 16:19:23 <Sonar_Gal> It's like going to a restaurant and the comment box being over full 16:19:26 <EvilBob> fenrus02: depends on how long we want the message to get 16:19:44 <fenrus02> EvilBob, if they dont read it now, i'm not sure length matters. 16:19:45 <A124> nirik: Maybe I would substitute "nicks" for "users" 16:19:55 <EvilBob> A124: I did 16:19:59 <nirik> A124: well, they could be bots/automated, but sure. 16:20:03 <jfx> fenrus02: Not knowing about it's adressed weekly, isnt to say it's never adressed. 16:20:13 <dcr226> fenrus02, ofcourse it matters....$(fill in mom/wife joke here) 16:20:17 <A124> EvilBob: That's the best. 16:20:51 <EvilBob> Here is my suggestion "Hey, we want to make the channel better. How about dropping us a note and let us know how you feel the channel is doing, good or bad and give feedback about users or issues also. https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ (Tickets reviewed weekly)" 16:21:11 * nirik is fine with that. We could adjust. 16:21:11 <Sonar_Gal> ^^ +1 16:21:20 <dcr226> +1 let it fly 16:21:27 <N3LRX> +1 16:21:29 <fenrus02> "on Thu 1700utc" ? 16:21:31 <mangas> +1 16:21:34 <A124> nirik: You're right. "users and bots" But most people not "leet" enough don't know about bots anyway. 16:21:38 <A124> #agreed 16:21:42 <EvilBob> I think we should be able to quicky vote this and not tie it up in committee 16:22:03 <Southern_Gentlem> +1 16:22:21 <Sonar_Gal> +1 16:23:06 <EvilBob> any objections to my suggested message and avoiding delay? 16:23:28 <nirik> works for me. 16:23:43 <nirik> #agreed will put new hopefullly clearer feedback message in place. 16:23:44 <EvilBob> glguy A124 Thanks for the input on this 16:23:49 <nirik> Anything else for open floor? 16:24:04 * bodhi_zazen waves =) 16:24:09 <EvilBob> jfx: Thnk You also 16:24:10 * fenrus02 ^5s bodhi_zazen 16:24:18 <EvilBob> bodhi_zazen: Showboat! 16:24:21 <EvilBob> ;) 16:24:25 <Sonar_Gal> haha 16:24:54 <jfx> EvilBob: For what? (You're welcome anyways) :D 16:25:08 <A124> EvilBob: Welcome. Thanks to you for the most awesome idea. 16:25:12 <EvilBob> jfx: asking the "Where do I sign up" question 16:25:16 <bodhi_zazen> I think #fedora is a great balance of support + "RTFM" - we do need to teach people how to learn 16:25:32 <Sonar_Gal> +1 there 16:25:35 <EvilBob> jfx: It points out to me that I need to make a macro about that 16:25:40 <jfx> Who can vote on meetings? Chairs, all or else? 16:25:40 <bodhi_zazen> #fedora is somewhere between #ubuntu and #gentoo or #apache 16:26:27 <EvilBob> jfx: Most of the time we try to be relaxed and take input and opinion on matters from anyone and everyone 16:26:37 <fenrus02> jfx, do you have an opinion about something? 16:26:40 <bodhi_zazen> Perhaps , when people are frustrated, answer the question (if you know) -> point to documentation for further info 16:26:40 <A124> Ubuntu community is awful.. I got flamed in the first minute. 16:27:00 <jfx> fenrus02: Nope, not yet. 16:27:00 <nirik> jfx: we usually work by consensus... but after that operators are allowed to vote. See: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/IRC_support_sig 16:27:04 <EvilBob> jfx: In the case of "important" things there is a wiki page outlining it 16:27:46 <jfx> OKay. Other RL meetings usually limit voting to members. Seeing how many lurkers this channel had, I thought it could be the same. 16:27:50 <EvilBob> A124: and we are better because we have not stopped flaming you yet? 16:27:51 <EvilBob> ;) 16:28:05 <Khaytsus> I see where this is going 16:28:13 <bodhi_zazen> A124: Do not let the bad behavior of a single individual, on #ubuntu , #fedora, or elsewhere, influence your opinion of the entire community, they all have vampires, stars, and duds 16:28:26 <nirik> anyhow, if there's nothing else to discuss, we can close out the meeting in a minute or two. 16:28:29 <A124> EvilBob: No. I think you were the only flaming me. 16:28:31 <nirik> bodhi_zazen: +1 16:28:45 <nirik> A124: you just need to get EvilBob's humor. ;) 16:28:46 <fenrus02> one thing that makes #fedora different is that there are multiple fedora-related channels to sort out the user question types. 16:28:48 <A124> bodhi_zazen: Yes. Thank you for reminding me. 16:28:52 <Sonar_Gal> A124, EvilBob flames everyone!!! 16:28:55 <EvilBob> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbLhHtaVIO4 16:28:57 <Southern_Gentlem> a124 no he was asking for clearification 16:29:05 <fenrus02> it means #fedora does not have 1600 users in it. 16:29:08 <A124> Sonar_Gal: Yes, I got aware of it xD 16:29:12 <Sonar_Gal> :) 16:30:12 <Sonar_Gal> fenrus02, Thank goodness it doesn't have 1600 users 16:30:33 <fenrus02> well, the +r helps :) 16:31:13 <Sonar_Gal> true if people would actually register then they could get all the help they need 16:31:48 <EvilBob> not that many get dropped in to #fedora-unregistered honestly 16:32:08 <EvilBob> Most users I clear from there are frequent fliers 16:32:11 <Sonar_Gal> not as many as there use to be 16:33:09 <Khaytsus> I still get dumped in there WITH network password AND delayed nickserv ident... I just know I gotta manually fix it when my server freezes (which seems to be happening with increasing frequency) 16:34:27 <EvilBob> Anyhow, Have a great week 16:34:31 <N3LRX> I haven't had any problems recently getting dunmped to -unregistered 16:34:33 <EvilBob> Remember people early detection of breast cancer is the closest thing we have to a cure. Guys, remind your Girl to check, Girls... check the girls! 16:35:02 * dcr226 spent all day Tuesday checking 16:35:03 <A124> ... 16:35:12 * dcr226 its dirty work, but someone's got to do it 16:35:21 <nirik> thanks for coming everyone. 16:35:23 <nirik> #endmeeting

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FUDCon KL Meeting Minutes :: 2012-03-15
by Maverick 15 Mar '12

15 Mar '12

Hey folks, Thanks attending the second FUDCon planning meeting for Kuala Lumpur today. Following is the meeting summary; Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fudcon-planning/2012-03-15/fudcon_kl_2012.… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fudcon-planning/2012-03-15/fudcon_kl_2012.… ======================== #fudcon-planning Meeting ======================== Meeting started by KageSenshi at 14:01:35 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fudcon-planning/2012-03-15/fudcon_kl_2012.… Meeting summary --------------- * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:KualaLumpur_2012/Meeting:2012-03-15 (KageSenshi, 14:03:34) * rollcall (KageSenshi, 14:03:44) * Announcements (KageSenshi, 14:06:06) * volunteer who have yet to preregister, please preregister in the wiki (KageSenshi, 14:06:22) * Review of actions from last meeting (KageSenshi, 14:08:14) * ACTION: KageSenshi to tasks from last meeting and turn them into tickets (KageSenshi, 14:11:05) * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:KualaLumpur_2012/Organization#Rooms (KageSenshi, 14:12:23) * ACTION: KageSenshi to add the hotel price information into the wiki (KageSenshi, 14:19:54) * LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/fudcon-planning/2012-March/003377… hotel prices are listed in this email (KageSenshi, 14:20:58) * sponsorship request is extended to 27th March (KageSenshi, 14:26:03) * questions/decisions (KageSenshi, 14:27:36) * ACTION: rebelk0de to check hotel128 deals (KageSenshi, 14:38:15) * we should contact the marketing team to help out with the press-release (KageSenshi, 14:47:23) * ACTION: jipang_menjerit / kagesenshi to contact the marketing team for inputs for presskit (KageSenshi, 14:50:09) * new action items (KageSenshi, 14:50:21) * ACTION: KageSenshi to nail down the budget document (KageSenshi, 14:53:29) * budget should also include additional travel cost (eg: bus, train, etc) (KageSenshi, 14:54:33) * open floor (KageSenshi, 14:59:23) * next vlnt meeting is a physical meeting at APIIT, 8pm (KageSenshi, 14:59:49) Meeting ended at 15:02:24 UTC. Action Items ------------ * KageSenshi to tasks from last meeting and turn them into tickets * KageSenshi to add the hotel price information into the wiki * rebelk0de to check hotel128 deals * jipang_menjerit / kagesenshi to contact the marketing team for inputs for presskit * KageSenshi to nail down the budget document Action Items, by person ----------------------- * jipang_menjerit * jipang_menjerit / kagesenshi to contact the marketing team for inputs for presskit * KageSenshi * KageSenshi to tasks from last meeting and turn them into tickets * KageSenshi to add the hotel price information into the wiki * KageSenshi to nail down the budget document * rebelk0de * rebelk0de to check hotel128 deals * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * KageSenshi (162) * rbergeron (39) * rebelk0de (27) * MavJS (25) * zodbot (21) * sweemeng (18) * jipang_menjerit (11) * vinz007 (10) * TYSSeries (5) * [HM] (5) * meng (3) * kaio (2) * yrcjaya (2) * kulll (2) * ALmol (1) * tuanta (1) -- Kind Regards, Maverick MavJS @ freenode.net https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Mavjs http://mavjs.github.com 7BFA DB9D D509 94AC 115B 1A0E E435 A5E3 A738 392D

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i18n meeting summary (2012-03-15)
by Akira TAGOH 15 Mar '12

15 Mar '12

===================== #fedora-meeting: i18n ===================== Meeting started by tagoh at 05:01:49 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-03-15/i18n.2012-03-15-… . Meeting summary --------------- * agenda and roll call (tagoh, 05:02:06) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2012-03-15 (tagoh, 05:02:15) * F17 (tagoh, 05:06:10) * Input Methods (tagoh, 05:22:09) * Fonts and Rendering (tagoh, 05:51:50) * Open Floor (tagoh, 05:59:17) Meeting ended at 06:04:04 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * tagoh (52) * juhp (31) * epico_laptop (22) * pravins (12) * zodbot (4) * fujiwarat (4) * jni (4) * anish_ (1) * dueno (1) * dingyichen (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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FAmSco meeting 2012-03-14 minutes
by Christoph Wickert 14 Mar '12

14 Mar '12

Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-03-14/famsco.2012-03-1… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-03-14/famsco.2012-03-1… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-03-14/famsco.2012-03-1… Meet you again next week Wednesday, MONTH DAYth at 22:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting! Regards, Christoph ================================== #fedora-meeting: FAmSCo 2012-03-14 ================================== Meeting started by cwickert at 22:02:09 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-03-14/famsco.2012-03-1… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (cwickert, 22:03:20) * cwickert, zoltanh721, kaio and yn1v are here for the meeting (cwickert, 22:05:51) * no trace of the other FAmSCo members, no regrets were sent to the list (cwickert, 22:06:10) * Reminder: If you cannot make it to the meeting, please send at least your regrets to famsco list and go through the open tickets that are on the meeting agenda in trac (cwickert, 22:06:54) * Swag shipping improvements (cwickert, 22:08:12) * ACTION: cwickert to update frontpages of famsco and emea-swag-tracker trac instances to clearly state what they are used for (cwickert, 22:17:05) * ACTION: yn1v to update frontpages of fedora-latam trac instance to clearly state what it's used for (cwickert, 22:17:29) * ACTION: cwickert to find out how manages fedora-apac and fedora-india trac instances (cwickert, 22:18:21) * https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ is managed by bckurera harishpillay mspevack susmit (cwickert, 22:20:49) * https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-india is managed by HarishPillay kushal sankarshan shakthimaan sundaram susmit (cwickert, 22:21:06) * Budget and reimbursement issues (cwickert, 22:21:44) * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Inode0/community_credit_card_report (inode0, 22:25:05) * igorps has joined us (cwickert, 22:47:27) * ACTION: every board member to come up with (at least) one suggestion how to improve budget and reimbursements by next week (cwickert, 22:48:51) * ACTION: cwickert to call for a meeting of all credit card holders plus rbergeron and cwickert (cwickert, 22:50:20) * Fedora disks for first half of 2012 (Chile and Argentina) (cwickert, 22:51:26) * AGREED: ask if the quantity of media in ticket #263 can be dropped (cwickert, 23:00:09) * FUDCon bids 2012 (cwickert, 23:00:56) * ACTION: cwickert to call for an all hands meeting about the FUDCon bids (cwickert, 23:08:42) * Open action items from previous meetings (cwickert, 23:20:46) * Open Floor (cwickert, 23:23:46) Meeting ended at 23:30:10 UTC. Action Items ------------ * cwickert to update frontpages of famsco and emea-swag-tracker trac instances to clearly state what they are used for * yn1v to update frontpages of fedora-latam trac instance to clearly state what it's used for * cwickert to find out how manages fedora-apac and fedora-india trac instances * every board member to come up with (at least) one suggestion how to improve budget and reimbursements by next week * cwickert to call for a meeting of all credit card holders plus rbergeron and cwickert * cwickert to call for an all hands meeting about the FUDCon bids Action Items, by person ----------------------- * cwickert * cwickert to update frontpages of famsco and emea-swag-tracker trac instances to clearly state what they are used for * cwickert to find out how manages fedora-apac and fedora-india trac instances * cwickert to call for a meeting of all credit card holders plus rbergeron and cwickert * cwickert to call for an all hands meeting about the FUDCon bids * rbergeron * cwickert to call for a meeting of all credit card holders plus rbergeron and cwickert * yn1v * yn1v to update frontpages of fedora-latam trac instance to clearly state what it's used for * **UNASSIGNED** * every board member to come up with (at least) one suggestion how to improve budget and reimbursements by next week People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * cwickert (191) * yn1v (33) * inode0 (25) * zoltanh721 (21) * igorps (13) * LinuxCode (12) * rbergeron (12) * zodbot (11) * nirik (6) * herlo (2)

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FAmNA Meeting (14 March 2012)
by inode0 13 Mar '12

13 Mar '12

====================== #fedora-meeting: famna ====================== Meeting started by nb at 01:11:41 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-03-14/famna.2012-03-14… . Meeting summary --------------- * rollcall (nb, 01:12:03) * tickets (inode0, 01:20:48) * ACTION: rbergeron will figure out what needs to be shipped to posscon via RDU (inode0, 01:27:34) * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LinuxFest_Northwest_%28LFNW%29_2012 (inode0, 01:32:31) * AGREED: $400 for sponsorship at LFNW (inode0, 01:35:35) * ACTION: inode0 will update the ticket expressing our support for sponsoring this event (inode0, 01:51:43) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/30 (rbergeron, 02:00:38) * Open Floor (inode0, 02:02:02) Meeting ended at 02:45:02 UTC. Action Items ------------ * rbergeron will figure out what needs to be shipped to posscon via RDU * inode0 will update the ticket expressing our support for sponsoring this event Action Items, by person ----------------------- * inode0 * inode0 will update the ticket expressing our support for sponsoring this event * rbergeron * rbergeron will figure out what needs to be shipped to posscon via RDU * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * inode0 (135) * chanchito (88) * rbergeron (73) * NiveusLuna (23) * zodbot (22) * nb (21) * Jsandys (21) * award3535 (12) * graphite6 (7) * makfinsky (5) * Sonar_Gal (2) John

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Fedora Tour meeting logs: Tuesday 13 March 2012 1530 UTC
by Ankur Sinha 13 Mar '12

13 Mar '12

Hello! Thank you for a great, highly productive meeting! Please get down to your assignments :) == Next meeting == Tuesday March 20 1530 UTC date -d 'Tue Mar 20 2012 1530 UTC' Agenda[2]: Mock ups review(major) == Important minutes == Action Items ------------ * Subfusc combiner * underscores (and Subfusc when he has the time) KDE * FranciscoD suchakra GNOME3 * Subfusc help underscores in KDE * suchakra fedora tour design lead * praveenkumar kishan FranciscoD work on XFCE tour * suchakra Subfusc FranciscoD praveenkumar kishan underscores Scout for XFCE contributor * FranciscoD update relevant wiki pages and post logs to lists Decisions ---------- * AGREED: 6/6 First release of fedora tour concentrates on first time and prospective users, *not* advanced users. (FranciscoD, 15:55:03) * AGREED: 6/6 Concentrate on apps provided by LiveCDs by default, and then proceed to other apps provided by DEs, followed by other "good alternatives" in this order. (FranciscoD, 16:26:05) * AGREED: 4/6 Concentrate on Gnome and KDE for the time being (FranciscoD, 16:32:56) * AGREED: 5/6 (1 didnt vote) Write a short XFCE tour to get it started and scout for a LXDE contributor (FranciscoD, 16:38:30) == Logs == http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-tour/2012-03-13/fedora-tour.2012-03… http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-tour/2012-03-13/fedora-tour.2012-03… http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-tour/2012-03-13/fedora-tour.2012-03… They will always be present on the wiki logs page[1] [1] https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-tour/wiki/meeting-logs [2] https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-tour/wiki/meeting-agenda -- Thanks, Regards, Ankur: "FranciscoD" http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha http://dodoincfedora.wordpress.com/

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2012-03-12 - Fedora QA Meeting - recap
by Adam Williamson 12 Mar '12

12 Mar '12

As always, minutes and IRC transcript available on the wiki at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20120312 Next meeting is scheduled for 2012-03-19 at 1500 UTC in #fedora-meeting. If you have topics you think we should bring up at the meeting, please add them to the Wiki page at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20120319 . Thanks! TOPIC: Fedora 17 Beta status ======================================================================= * Beta TC1 is out and we have a lot of the testing done, blockers are reported * TC2 to be fired when changes to bootloader behaviour on upgrade are done (or other unforeseen major changes land) TOPIC: Test Day report ======================================================================= * Desktop l10n[1] and OpenStack[2] test days went off last week with apparent success, but none of us managed to be around to watch them * rbergeron reports the OpenStack test day was mainly developers and lots of doc polishing, but most of the tests got run and some actual bugs were filed TOPIC: Upcoming QA events ======================================================================= * j_dulaney will ensure announcements are sent out for USB 3.0 Test Day on 03-13[3] and Desktop i18n Test Day on 03-14[4] * kparal has announced[5] GNOME 3 Test Day on 03-15[6] * Beta blocker review meeting on Friday 03-16 TOPIC: AutoQA update ======================================================================= * new release delayed due to bugs caught while in staging, it will go ahead once they're fixed TOPIC: Open floor ======================================================================= N/A ACTION ITEMS ======================================================================= * adamw to co-ordinate with pjones on grub2 update * j_dulaney to ensure announcements are sent for 2012-03-13 and 2012-03-14 test days [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2012-03-07 [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2012-03-08_OpenStack_Test_Day [3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2012-03-13_USB_3.0 [4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2012-03-14 [5] https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test-announce/2012-March/000392.h… [6] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2012-03-15_Gnome_Shell_and_Extensio… -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net

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