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Fedora ARM Weekly Status Meeting Minutes 2013-05-15
by Paul Whalen 15 May '13

15 May '13

Thanks to those that were able to join for the status meeting today, for those unable the minutes are posted below: Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-05-15/fedora-meeting… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-05-15/fedora-meeting… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-05-15/fedora-meeting… =================================================== #fedora-meeting-1: Fedora ARM weekly status meeting =================================================== Meeting started by pwhalen at 20:18:19 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-05-15/fedora-meeting… . Meeting summary --------------- * 0) Status of ACTION items from our previous meeting (pwhalen, 20:19:20) * LINK: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-05-08/fedora-meeting… (pwhalen, 20:19:20) * COMPLETE - dgilmore to post TC Images to list later today/tomorrow (pwhalen, 20:19:30) * COMPLETE - pwhalen to update wiki with pointers/instructions (to be updated for Beta) (pwhalen, 20:19:31) * INPROGRESS - jonmasters to help review 3.10 test kernels, and assist pwhalen with vexpress (pwhalen, 20:19:31) * INPROGRESS - jonmasters to probe highbank 3.9 instability issue and send update (pwhalen, 20:19:31) * ACTION: jonmasters to help review 3.10 test kernels, and assist pwhalen with vexpress (pwhalen, 20:24:24) * 1) Problem packages (pwhalen, 20:24:41) * 2) Kernel Status Update (pwhalen, 20:28:08) * 3) Aarch64 Status Update (pwhalen, 20:29:24) * 9278 packages built, 4000 to go (bconoboy, 20:31:19) * documentation processing packages such as texlive and doxygen are now built (bconoboy, 20:31:52) * j_dulaney has bootstrapped ghc (bconoboy, 20:32:09) * new foundation model is available which fixes crash issue with image-based rootfs (bconoboy, 20:32:37) * ACTION: pwhalen to post new image/instructions to the wiki for aarch64 quickstart (pwhalen, 20:33:23) * LINK: Participating on the bootstrap starts at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/AArch64/QuickStart (bconoboy, 20:33:52) * 4) Fedora 19 Beta for ARM (pwhalen, 20:39:15) * 4a) Fedora 19 for ARM - Skipping Alpha, releasing Beta with PA (pwhalen, 20:39:21) * 4b) Fedora 19 for ARM - Graphics support (pwhalen, 20:41:05) * beta might not have support for graphics hardware (bconoboy, 20:44:44) * ACTION: jonmasters will check vexpress or omap over weekend (bconoboy, 20:44:59) * ACTION: pwhalen will investigate tegra options (bconoboy, 20:45:05) * 4c) Fedora 19 for ARM - Image format (pwhalen, 20:45:40) * docs on omap booting http://www.omappedia.com/wiki/Bootloader_Project (dgilmore, 20:50:12) * 4d) Fedora 19 for ARM - Scheduling a VFAD (pwhalen, 20:51:02) * Fedora 19 Beta VFAD on Tuesday May 21st @ 11am (provided we have images) (pwhalen, 20:51:52) * 5) Pidora Status Update (pwhalen, 20:54:28) * ACTION: ctyler to send an email to the list with Pidora (Raspberry Pi Fedora 18 Remix armv6hl version) image link (pwhalen, 21:03:00) * 6) Open Floor (pwhalen, 21:05:53) Meeting ended at 21:13:08 UTC. Action Items ------------ * jonmasters to help review 3.10 test kernels, and assist pwhalen with vexpress * pwhalen to post new image/instructions to the wiki for aarch64 quickstart * jonmasters will check vexpress or omap over weekend * pwhalen will investigate tegra options * ctyler to send an email to the list with Pidora (Raspberry Pi Fedora 18 Remix armv6hl version) image link Action Items, by person ----------------------- * ctyler * ctyler to send an email to the list with Pidora (Raspberry Pi Fedora 18 Remix armv6hl version) image link * jonmasters * jonmasters to help review 3.10 test kernels, and assist pwhalen with vexpress * jonmasters will check vexpress or omap over weekend * pwhalen * jonmasters to help review 3.10 test kernels, and assist pwhalen with vexpress * pwhalen to post new image/instructions to the wiki for aarch64 quickstart * pwhalen will investigate tegra options * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * pwhalen (75) * bconoboy (55) * j_dulaney (34) * dgilmore (32) * masta (30) * jonmasters_ (28) * ctyler (27) * zodbot (12) * ddd__ (7) * msalter (4) * ahs3 (3) * dmarlin (2) * jcapik (2) * nirik (1) * kwizart (1) * pbrobinson (0) * agreene (0) * jonmasters (0) * ddd (0)

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F19 Beta Blocker Bug Review #6 - Minutes
by Tim Flink 15 May '13

15 May '13

================================================ #fedora-blocker-review: f19beta-blocker-review-6 ================================================ Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2013-05-15/f19beta-b… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2013-05-15/f19beta-b… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2013-05-15/f19beta-b… Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (tflink, 16:02:21) * Introduction (tflink, 16:07:15) * Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs. (tflink, 16:07:21) * We'll be following the process outlined at: (tflink, 16:07:27) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting (tflink, 16:07:27) * The bugs up for review today are available at: (tflink, 16:07:32) * LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (tflink, 16:07:32) * The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (tflink, 16:07:37) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Beta_Release_Criteria (tflink, 16:07:38) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Alpha_Release_Criteria (tflink, 16:07:40) * Up for review today, we have: (tflink, 16:07:43) * 1 Proposed Blockers (tflink, 16:07:58) * 6 Accepted Blockers (tflink, 16:07:59) * 10 Proposed Freeze Exceptions (tflink, 16:07:59) * 6 Accepted Freeze Exceptions (tflink, 16:07:59) * (962569) create new VM fails with error argument of type 'bool' is not iterable (tflink, 16:09:57) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=962569 (tflink, 16:10:00) * Proposed Blocker, virt-manager, NEW (tflink, 16:10:03) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=963293 (adamw, 16:14:49) * LINK: http://www.boxee.tv/ (tflink, 16:26:54) * AGREED: 962569 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedFreezeException - There are workarounds for VM management (use CLI, use boxes) so this doesn't qualify as a blocker - VMs can be created and run on F19. However, it would be good to have virt-manager working in beta and a tested fix would be considered past freeze. (tflink, 16:32:59) * ACTION: adamw to look at tweaking virt criteria and test cases to cover apparent new consensus on virt issues (adamw, 16:33:05) * (962631) "Do not install bootloader" option never shows in Fedora 19 (Beta TC4) (tflink, 16:36:01) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=962631 (tflink, 16:36:04) * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 16:36:07) * AGREED: 962631 - AcceptedFreezeException - This is not a blocker for F19 beta but would be a blocker for final - including the fix now would allow for more earlier testing and a tested fix would be considered past freeze. (tflink, 16:41:17) * (962006) Crash when installing a specific btrfs layout with a kickstart (tflink, 16:41:27) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=962006 (tflink, 16:41:30) * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 16:41:33) * AGREED: 962006 - AcceptedFreezeException - This is a partitioning crasher in kickstarted installs and thus, would be a final blocker. However, more testing earlier would be appreciated and a tested fix would be considered past freeze. (tflink, 16:49:05) * (962012) AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'get_selected' (tflink, 16:49:14) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=962012 (tflink, 16:49:17) * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 16:49:20) * AGREED: 962012 - AcceptedFreezeException - While this is not a blocker for F19 beta, easily-hittable crashes in the UI are good to have fixed. A tested fix would be considered past freeze. (tflink, 16:54:31) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=962628 (tflink, 16:54:45) * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 16:54:47) * AGREED: 962012 - AcceptedFreezeException - While this is not a blocker for F19 beta, it is an easy to hit crash in the UI and it would be preferrable to fix early. A tested fix would be considered past freeze. (tflink, 16:57:55) * (962989) Regression in gnome/gtk 3.8 with drag and drop (tflink, 16:58:03) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=962989 (tflink, 16:58:03) * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, muffin, NEW (tflink, 16:58:03) * AGREED: 962989 - AcceptedFreezeException - This fixes drag'n'drop for cinnamon which is a secondary DE. Blockers for secondary DEs are FEs and would be good to have working at beta. A tested fix would be considered past freeze. (tflink, 17:02:15) * (928645) IMEs for some languages no longer automatically configured in g-i-s / GNOME in Fedora 19 (tflink, 17:02:20) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=928645 (tflink, 17:02:23) * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, gnome-initial-setup, NEW (tflink, 17:02:26) * AGREED: - 928645 - AcceptedFreezeException - It would be good to have a fix for this before beta so that it gets more testing. However, the fix would have to be minimal scope and risk before pulling past freeze. A well tested fix would be considered past freeze. (tflink, 17:13:08) * (962865) IOError: iface iter could not read dir /var/lib/iscsi/nodes/iqn.2009-02.net.tirfa.:for.all/192.168.0.5,3260,1. (tflink, 17:13:15) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=962865 (tflink, 17:13:18) * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, python-blivet, MODIFIED (tflink, 17:13:20) * AGREED: 962865 - AcceptedFreezeException - This bug prevents installation to iscsi targets without auth and would be a final blocker. More testing now would be helpful and a tested fix would be considered past freeze. (tflink, 17:15:51) * (962176) [abrt] nemo-1.8.1-1.fc19: _gdk_x11_display_error_event: Process /usr/bin/nemo was killed by signal 5 (SIGTRAP) (tflink, 17:15:59) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=962176 (tflink, 17:16:02) * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, nemo, ON_QA (tflink, 17:16:04) * AGREED: 962176 - AcceptedFreezeException - This would be a blocker for a primary DE and thus is a FE. A tested fix would be considered past freeze. (tflink, 17:19:04) * (960045) f19 Beta TC4 soas live fails to boot after "liveinst" install but @sugar-desktop installed with yum works (tflink, 17:19:07) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=960045 (tflink, 17:19:10) * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, spin-kickstarts, NEW (tflink, 17:19:13) * AGREED: 960045 - AcceptedFreezeException - This bug breaks SOAS which is a secondary DE, a tested fix would be considered past freeze. (tflink, 17:20:16) * (958787) X error "AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for gpu driver 0 -1" on iMac12,2 with F19 Beta TC3 when starting GDM (tflink, 17:20:25) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=958787 (tflink, 17:20:28) * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, xorg-x11-server, NEW (tflink, 17:20:30) * AGREED: 958787 - We need input from devs before considering this as a FE for F19 beta - will revisit once more information is available (tflink, 17:22:52) * All current accepted blockers are in a state where we need to do a new spin and see where they stand, so we will check in on them after building RC1 (adamw, 17:25:27) * Open Floor (tflink, 17:26:14) Meeting ended at 17:30:46 UTC. Action Items ------------ * adamw to look at tweaking virt criteria and test cases to cover apparent new consensus on virt issues Action Items, by person ----------------------- * adamw * adamw to look at tweaking virt criteria and test cases to cover apparent new consensus on virt issues * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * tflink (163) * adamw (85) * Viking-Ice (57) * ignatenkobrain (46) * jreznik (40) * brunowolff (15) * zodbot (6) * satellit (3) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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FAmNA Meeting (14 May 2013)
by inode0 14 May '13

14 May '13

====================== #fedora-meeting: FAmNA ====================== Meeting started by masta at 01:00:01 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-05-15/famna.2013-05-15… . Meeting summary --------------- * === FAmNA Roll Call === (masta, 01:00:31) * === Announcements === (masta, 01:03:42) * === Tickets === (masta, 01:08:25) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/famna/report/9 (masta, 01:08:32) * FAmNA Q1 Expense Report (inode0, 01:10:22) * NA paid $2,000 in event sponsorships to NELF, LFNW, TXLF, and SELF in Q1 (masta, 01:12:36) * === Tickets === (masta, 01:20:57) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ILF_2013 (inode0, 01:24:21) * the event pages is setup (masta, 01:25:05) * LINK: ttps://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ILF_2013 (masta, 01:25:13) * 5 people +1 to approve $500 sponsorship + $600 travel. (masta, 01:26:54) * === Open floor ==== (masta, 01:42:08) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BAMF_Pi_Fun (suehle, 01:46:27) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FOSSCON_2013 (kk4ewt, 01:56:42) * 5 votes for $1000 funding approved for fosscon (masta, 02:03:43) Meeting ended at 02:06:41 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * masta (69) * inode0 (60) * MarkDude (53) * dan408 (42) * nb (26) * kk4ewt (24) * suehle (16) * zodbot (14) * award3535 (14) * rbergeron (11) * abadger1999 (2) * dramsey (2) * wrnash1 (1) * nirik (1) * dan408- (1) John

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2013-05-13 - Fedora QA Meeting - recap
by Adam Williamson 14 May '13

14 May '13

As always, minutes and IRC transcript available on the wiki at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20130513 Next meeting is scheduled for 2013-05-20 at 1500 UTC in #fedora-meeting. If you have topics you think we should bring up at the meeting, please add them to the Wiki page at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20130520 . Thanks! TOPIC: Previous meeting follow-up ======================================================================= * martix or adamw to write a Graphics Test Week recap email - still not done yet, unfortunately * tflink to write a list post announcing the blocker bug proposal webapp - not done yet * brunowolff to update the FE guidelines to reflect the agreement (see above) - this was done[1] * adamw to look into Test_Day:2013-04-30_MariaDB[2] lack of participation and see if we should re-run it - not done yet * kparal to ensure abrt and sssd test days have live images ready - this was done, images were available for both events * adamw to do some promotion for the test days - blog post[3] and forum post and twitter done TOPIC: Fedora 19 Beta status/planning ======================================================================= * Beta TC4 was already under testing, some significant bugs found * Beta freeze was scheduled for 2013-05-14; next goal was to build an RC ASAP TOPIC: Test Days ======================================================================= * Test_Day:2013-05-07_ABRT[4] went ahead successfully, though with little testing from outside of Brno * Test_Day:2013-05-09_SSSD_Improvements_and_AD_Integration[5] went ahead and looks to have got a good set of test results * NetworkManager Test Day was postponed to 2013-06-04[6] TOPIC: Open floor ======================================================================= * GNOME 3.8.2 update was expected to land soon, and needed karma so we could try to get it in ahead of Beta freeze * Desktop team was still working on getting the spin below the size target * LXDE will continue to target 700 MB, cwickert to work on slimming it down * nirik was working on Xfce spin size Action items ======================================================================= * martix or adamw to write a Graphics Test Week recap email * tflink to write a list post announcing the blocker bug proposal webapp * adamw to look into Test_Day:2013-04-30_MariaDB[7] lack of participation and see if we should re-run it * brunowolff to re-test bug #909473[8] and re-open if it's still bad 1. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2013-May/115318.html 2. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2013-04-30_MariaDB 3. http://www.happyassassin.net/2013/05/06/abrt-and-sssd-test-days-this-week/ 4. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2013-05-07_ABRT 5. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2013-05-09_SSSD_Improvements_and_AD… 6. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2013-06-04_Network_Manager 7. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2013-04-30_MariaDB 8. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=909473 -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net

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FAmSCo meeting minutes 2013-05-13
by Jiri Eischmann 13 May '13

13 May '13

Hi, we had another FAmSCo meeting today. If you'd like to know more, please read the meeting minutes: Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2013-05-13/famsco.2013-05… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2013-05-13/famsco.2013-05… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2013-05-13/famsco.2013-05… The next meeting will be on May 20th. Jiri

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F19 Beta Blocker Bug Review #5
by Tim Flink 13 May '13

13 May '13

================================================ #fedora-blocker-review: f19beta-blocker-review-5 ================================================ Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2013-05-13/f19beta-b… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2013-05-13/f19beta-b… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2013-05-13/f19beta-b… Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (tflink, 16:00:55) * Introduction (tflink, 16:07:06) * Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs. (tflink, 16:07:13) * We'll be following the process outlined at: (tflink, 16:07:20) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting (tflink, 16:07:20) * The bugs up for review today are available at: (tflink, 16:07:27) * LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (tflink, 16:07:27) * The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (tflink, 16:07:34) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Beta_Release_Criteria (tflink, 16:07:34) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Alpha_Release_Criteria (tflink, 16:07:38) * Up for review today, we have: (tflink, 16:07:41) * 7 Proposed Blockers (tflink, 16:08:18) * 9 Accepted Blockers (tflink, 16:08:18) * 3 Proposed Freeze Exceptions (tflink, 16:08:18) * 5 Accepted Freeze Exceptions (tflink, 16:08:18) * (958714) X keyboard layouts/options should be set through localed (tflink, 16:09:01) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=958714 (tflink, 16:09:04) * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, ON_QA (tflink, 16:09:06) * this has been fixed and pushed to stable - can be closed and no need for it to be a blocker (tflink, 16:10:33) * (960262) installer will not launch with valid IP but no internet connection (tflink, 16:10:50) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=960262 (tflink, 16:10:53) * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 16:10:56) * AGREED: 960262 - RejectedBlocker - From the data in the bug, it sounds like this is a bit too obscure to block release and the reporter has been unable to reproduce. Please re-propose if it turns out to be more severe than it currently seems (tflink, 16:15:25) * (959707) AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'set_chosen' (tflink, 16:15:29) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=959707 (tflink, 16:15:32) * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, POST (tflink, 16:15:35) * LINK: https://lists.fedorahosted.org/pipermail/anaconda-patches/2013-May/004145.h… (adamw, 16:18:16) * AGREED: 959707 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F19 beta release criterion when doing custom BTRFS partitions without changing the partition scheme first: "When using the custom partitioning flow, the installer must be able to ... create mount points backed by ext4 partitions, LVM volumes or btrfs volumes, or software RAID arrays at RAID levels 0, 1 and 5 containing ext4 partitions" (tflink, 16:31:03) * (962098) AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'split' (tflink, 16:31:09) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=962098 (tflink, 16:31:12) * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 16:31:14) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=889887 (adamw, 16:33:33) * AGREED: 962098 - RejectedBlocker - The askmethod option is only used in a few situations, doesn't directly violate any F19 beta release criteria and is not commonly used enough to justify blocking F19 beta release over. (tflink, 16:42:54) * (950145) LVMError: pvcreate failed for /dev/sda3: running lvm pvcreate --config devices { filter=["r|/sda1$|","r|/sda2$|","r|/sda3$|","r|/sda4$|","r|/sdb1$|","r|/sdb2$|","r|/loop3$|","r|/loop4$|","r|/loop5$|","r|/loop6$|","r|/loop7$|","r|/sdb$|"] } ... (tflink, 16:43:06) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=950145 (tflink, 16:43:10) * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 16:43:13) * AGREED: 950145 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F19 beta release criterion for systems with partition-less disks: "When using the guided partitioning flow, the installer must be able to ...cleanly install to a disk with a valid ms-dos or gpt disk label and partition table which contains existing data and sufficient unpartitioned space for a Fedora installation" (tflink, 16:50:35) * (962148) installer disallows adding space from subsequently added drives (tflink, 16:50:49) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=962148 (tflink, 16:50:52) * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 16:50:55) * AGREED: 962148 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedFreezeException - While this is certainly a bug, it doesn't clearly violate any F19 beta release criteria. However, it would be nice to see this fixed and a tested fix would be considered past freeze. (tflink, 16:55:43) * (928645) IMEs for some languages no longer automatically configured in g-i-s / GNOME in Fedora 19 (tflink, 16:55:47) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=928645 (tflink, 16:55:50) * Proposed Blocker, gnome-initial-setup, NEW (tflink, 16:55:53) * AGREED: 928645 - RejectedBlocker - While an inconvenience for some users, this bug does not clearly violate any F19 beta release criteria and is thus rejected as a blocker. (tflink, 17:01:16) * (868421) Dracut should not time out and fail waiting for LUKS decryption (tflink, 17:05:29) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=868421 (tflink, 17:05:32) * Proposed Blocker, dracut, ASSIGNED (tflink, 17:05:35) * LINK: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2013-April/010363.html (Viking-Ice, 17:06:17) * AGREED: 868421 - RejectedBlocker - While unfortunate, this bug still does not violate any F19 beta release criteria. Thus, rejected as a blocker for F19 beta (tflink, 17:13:50) * (960045) f19 Beta TC4 soas live fails to boot after "liveinst" install but @sugar-desktop installed with yum works (tflink, 17:14:14) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=960045 (tflink, 17:14:17) * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, spin-kickstarts, NEW (tflink, 17:14:20) * AGREED: 960045 - AcceptedFreezeException - This bug represents a non-booting soas spin which is a freezeException by definition. A tested fix would be considered past freeze. (tflink, 17:17:06) * Open Floor (tflink, 17:19:23) * (922958) SELinux is preventing /usr/sbin/lightdm from 'create' accesses on the file .dmrc.T5D7TW. (tflink, 17:29:15) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=922958 (tflink, 17:29:18) * Accepted Freeze Exceptions, selinux-policy, MODIFIED (tflink, 17:29:20) * selinux-policy 3.12.1-42 went stable (tflink, 17:29:40) * this bug has been closed (tflink, 17:30:09) * (960254) Mount point information is not immediately updated when assigning a partition to a disk (tflink, 17:31:00) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=960254 (tflink, 17:31:03) * Accepted Freeze Exceptions, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 17:31:06) * no movement on this recently (tflink, 17:32:49) * Open Floor (tflink, 17:34:50) Meeting ended at 17:39:33 UTC. 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Fedora Chinese Meeting Minutes (2013-05-03)
by Alick Zhao 10 May '13

10 May '13

Hi all, The IRC meeting minutes tonight are available at the link [1]. Thanks everyone for attending the meeting. In the meeting we mainly talked about FUDCon APAC 2014 bid tasks, and FPWiki Zh page updates. Please review the proposed ideas and actions. The next IRC meeting will be held on next Friday (2013-05-17). Please come and join the discussion if you can! [1]: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-zh/2013-05-10/fedora-zh.2013-05-10-… ================== #fedora-zh Meeting ================== Meeting started by alick at 13:03:12 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-zh/2013-05-10/fedora-zh.2013-05-10-… . Meeting summary --------------- * 点名 (alick, 13:03:24) * FUDCON APAC 2014 举办申请 (alick, 13:10:28) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Bid_for_Beijing_2014#Organizers.2FEve… (alick, 13:10:47) * LINK: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-zh/2013-05-03/fedora-zh.2013-05-03-… (alick, 13:11:08) * IDEA: 大家先确定选择场馆的硬性要求吧 (endle, 13:11:17) * IDEA: 大致的场地需求：500人的大会议室、3个左右100人的小会议室、可选的展台展示 (alick, 13:19:38) * IDEA: 大会议室会用作 opening/closing address, 小会议室做分开并行的 talk，或者hackfest (alick, 13:20:26) * APAC FUNCON 的预算总计约 USD 15,000 (alick, 13:29:21) * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon_organization_process (alick, 13:29:36) * ACTION: kraks 韦冠楠，尽量提供与地大的国际会议中心有关的信息 (endle, 13:35:12) * FPWiki Zh 页面的整理更新 (alick, 13:37:56) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FZUGCommunicate (alick, 13:38:14) * ACTION: alick orgize the subsection for forums (alick, 13:42:41) * LINK: http://planet.fedora-zh.org/我这打开来里面也是空白的，那个RSS 的也挂了 (wankey, 13:44:48) * ACTION: 在邮件列表里告知 cicku planet.fedora-zh.org 的情况 (endle, 13:49:02) * 中文翻译、文档翻译 (alick, 13:52:04) * Translate Beta Release Notes Wed 2013-05-08 Mon 2013-05-13 (alick, 13:56:05) Meeting ended at 14:05:46 UTC. Action Items ------------ * kraks 韦冠楠，尽量提供与地大的国际会议中心有关的信息 * alick orgize the subsection for forums * 在邮件列表里告知 cicku planet.fedora-zh.org 的情况 Action Items, by person ----------------------- * alick * alick orgize the subsection for forums * **UNASSIGNED** * kraks 韦冠楠，尽量提供与地大的国际会议中心有关的信息 * 在邮件列表里告知 cicku planet.fedora-zh.org 的情况 People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * alick (78) * endle (31) * biergaizi (19) * amos_huang (11) * wankey (8) * zodbot (7) * BadGirl (7) * asmo_huang (4) * skraito (2) * microcai (2) * CyrusYzGTt (1) * biergaizi_ (1) * hers (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Summary/Minutes from today's Fedora Infrastructure meeting (2013-05-09)
by Kevin Fenzi 09 May '13

09 May '13

============================================ #fedora-meeting: Infrastructure (2013-05-09) ============================================ Meeting started by nirik at 19:00:17 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-05-09/infrastructure.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * welcome y'all (nirik, 19:00:17) * New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks (nirik, 19:02:33) * Applications status / discussion (nirik, 19:07:52) * fas security issue was discovered, analyzed, patched and announced. (nirik, 19:08:30) * fedocal calendar was announced. (nirik, 19:08:44) * LINK: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/ (nirik, 19:08:56) * http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/announce/2013-May/003154.html (abadger1999, 19:11:45) * SOP for fedorahosted fedmsg messages http://infrastructure.fedoraproject.org/infra/docs/fedorahosted-fedmsg.txt (threebean, 19:12:05) * Sysadmin status / discussion (nirik, 19:18:25) * builder setup has been moved to ansible. (nirik, 19:22:23) * Freeze (nirik, 19:27:29) * will finalize the list of non frozen hosts before tuesday. (nirik, 19:32:01) * geoip (nirik, 19:32:31) * LINK: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoip (nirik, 19:33:16) * Private Cloud status update / discussion (nirik, 19:37:01) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure_private_cloud (nirik, 19:37:34) * reboot didn't go well, we have provided feedback to openstack folks about it. (nirik, 19:39:06) * back up and running now for the most part. (nirik, 19:39:17) * flock (nirik, 19:40:52) * LINK: http://flocktofedora.org/ (nirik, 19:41:04) * Upcoming Tasks/Items (nirik, 19:49:11) * 2013-05-14 to 2013-05-28 BETA infrastructure freeze (nirik, 19:49:20) * 2013-05-20 - bugzilla upgrade. (nirik, 19:49:20) * 2013-05-28 F19 beta release (nirik, 19:49:20) * 2013-05-31 end of 1st quarter (nirik, 19:49:20) * 2013-06-01 nag fi-apprentices (nirik, 19:49:20) * 2013-06-08 drop inactive apprentices (nirik, 19:49:21) * 2013-06-18 to 2013-07-02 FINAL infrastructure freeze. (nirik, 19:49:23) * 2013-07-01 nag fi-apprentices (nirik, 19:49:25) * 2013-07-02 F19 FINAL release (nirik, 19:49:27) * Open Floor (nirik, 19:54:34) * Open Floor (nirik, 19:54:52) Meeting ended at 20:01:34 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * nirik (168) * skvidal (76) * holmed (30) * abadger1999 (20) * threebean (20) * puiterwijk (14) * zodbot (6) * tflink (3) * Southern_Gentlem (2) * swa_work (2) * lmacken (1) * jerzyr (1) * kushalk124_ (1) * pvod (1) * smooge (0) * ricky (0) * mdomsch (0) * dgilmore (0) * CodeBlock (0) -- 19:00:17 <nirik> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2013-05-09) 19:00:17 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu May 9 19:00:17 2013 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:00:17 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 19:00:17 <nirik> #meetingname infrastructure 19:00:17 <nirik> #topic welcome y'all 19:00:17 <nirik> #chair smooge skvidal CodeBlock ricky nirik abadger1999 lmacken dgilmore mdomsch threebean 19:00:17 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure' 19:00:17 <zodbot> Current chairs: CodeBlock abadger1999 dgilmore lmacken mdomsch nirik ricky skvidal smooge threebean 19:00:24 * abadger1999 here 19:00:28 * lmacken 19:00:31 <nirik> hey folks. Who's around for a infrastructure meeting? 19:00:37 * puiterwijk 19:00:40 * threebean threebean 19:00:42 * holmed 19:00:49 <nirik> 6 beans! 19:00:53 <threebean> 9! 19:01:10 * skvidal is here 19:01:21 * swa_work here 19:01:31 * nirik guesses it depends on what the default operator is. 19:02:02 <puiterwijk> nirik: nope, threebeans threebeans => "(Int -> Int) -> Int" :) 19:02:13 * threebean sees your point and raises a SyntaxError 19:02:14 <nirik> :) 19:02:25 <holmed> Its so nerdy, i love it :D 19:02:26 <nirik> anyhow, lets go ahead and get started. 19:02:27 * tflink is here 19:02:33 <nirik> #topic New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks 19:02:42 <nirik> Any new folks like to introduce themselves? 19:02:49 <nirik> or apprentices with questions or comments? 19:02:53 <holmed> Im Ed 19:02:59 <holmed> Hello :D 19:03:24 <nirik> welcome holmed. 19:03:29 <holmed> I haven't really had much experiance working on FOSS 19:03:51 <nirik> are you more interested in sysadmin type tasks? or application development? or both? 19:04:19 <holmed> What do they both do? Without sounding too brainless 19:04:30 <nirik> no worries. ;) 19:04:46 <nirik> So the sysadmin team does more day to day operations tasks... and some scripting work. 19:05:13 <nirik> the Apps/devel folks build and maintain (some of) the applications that the sysadmins run day to day 19:05:21 <nirik> see apps.fedoraproject.org for a full list. 19:05:29 <holmed> What kind of things do they script? and What operations tasks? 19:05:34 <holmed> The SysAdmins 19:05:46 <nirik> see http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/GettingStarted for much more info and links to other stuff. ;) 19:06:20 <nirik> adding projects, responding to outages, rebooting servers, applying updates, changing configuration based on needs, etc. 19:06:33 <skvidal> cursing 19:06:36 <skvidal> you forgot cursing 19:06:39 <swa_work> yah skvidal 19:06:43 <holmed> Ah, yeah that's probably where i'd prefer to be ;) 19:07:07 <nirik> holmed: anyhow, ping me in #fedora-admin after the meeting and we can get you started. ;) 19:07:18 <nirik> and do ask questions as we go. :) 19:07:33 <holmed> Ok thanks :) 19:07:52 <nirik> #topic Applications status / discussion 19:07:57 <nirik> ok, any applications news? 19:08:03 <nirik> I have a few things from this week... 19:08:30 <nirik> #info fas security issue was discovered, analyzed, patched and announced. 19:08:44 <nirik> #info fedocal calendar was announced. 19:08:56 <nirik> https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/ 19:09:25 <nirik> Anyone have other items from the apps side? 19:09:44 <threebean> Fedora Hosted fedmsg messages coming soon. 19:09:51 <abadger1999> #info fas security announcement: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/advisory-board/2013-May/011996.html 19:10:14 <threebean> They'll remain disabled by default, but there's a SOP to enable them if someone asks for them. 19:10:21 <nirik> we have a freeze coming up next tuesday 19:10:31 <nirik> are there any releases planned to get in before that? 19:10:54 <abadger1999> I would like to get a new python-fedora out but I don't know that I can get it out there. 19:10:58 <puiterwijk> abadger1999: is that a security announcement? it seems like a board meeting announcement? 19:11:11 <abadger1999> It's an API design question so I want to get it setup. 19:11:12 <holmed> Sorry, What's a SOP? And what is a freeze? 19:11:12 <abadger1999> oops 19:11:19 * abadger1999 looks for the correct link 19:11:24 <puiterwijk> #undo 19:11:31 <puiterwijk> oh, I can't do that :) 19:11:38 <nirik> holmed: SOP is "standard operating procedure" 19:11:39 <abadger1999> #undo 19:11:39 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.items.Info object at 0x263ae610> 19:11:43 <nirik> so, docs on how to do something. 19:11:45 <abadger1999> #info http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/announce/2013-May/003154.html 19:11:48 <abadger1999> #chair puiterwijk 19:11:48 <zodbot> Current chairs: CodeBlock abadger1999 dgilmore lmacken mdomsch nirik puiterwijk ricky skvidal smooge threebean 19:11:58 <holmed> Ah thanks :) 19:12:01 * skvidal looks up confused again 19:12:02 <skvidal> oh 19:12:05 <threebean> #info SOP for fedorahosted fedmsg messages http://infrastructure.fedoraproject.org/infra/docs/fedorahosted-fedmsg.txt 19:12:23 <nirik> freeze is something we do several weeks before each fedora milestone... Alpha/Beta/Final release. It's where we make fewer changes and require review of those changes. 19:12:32 <nirik> So we don't cause problems with our infrastructure before a release. 19:12:51 <puiterwijk> abadger1999: thanks 19:12:54 <holmed> Ah ok 19:13:06 <nirik> and more on that topic in a few actually. ;) 19:13:09 <threebean> (before that freeze on Tuesday, I'd like to get out a release of fedmsg_meta_fedora_infrastructure and another of fedora-tagger.) 19:13:18 <nirik> threebean: cool. 19:13:49 <holmed> So what is the Alpha/Beta release for? Infrastructure apps? 19:13:57 <nirik> oh, I had a general app question... 19:14:05 <nirik> holmed: no, Fedora the linux distro. :) 19:14:26 <holmed> Ah! I'm starting to get it now ;) 19:14:43 <nirik> are httpd logs useful for things like busgateway/fedocal/etc... basically the split out per app server instances, does it make sense to save httpd logs for them? 19:15:17 <holmed> Also where do pre-release bug reports go? 19:15:42 <nirik> holmed: for fedora? or for fedora infrastructure? 19:15:59 <holmed> Just for Fedora 19:16:03 <abadger1999> You'd think I'd learn to re-read what I type before hitting return: re python-fedora update: It's an API design question so I want to get it setup right the first time 19:16:06 <nirik> bugzilla.redhat.com 19:16:12 <holmed> Ok thanks 19:16:22 <threebean> nirik: hmm, I think don't think busgateway01 has any httpd running on it. 19:16:32 <nirik> threebean: ok. that answers it for that instance. ;) 19:16:43 <threebean> but saving/storing httpd logs for fedocal sounds like a good thing to me ;p 19:16:46 <nirik> I'll drop a note to the list about this. 19:17:14 <nirik> any other application news? 19:17:16 <skvidal> hmmmm 19:17:19 <skvidal> speaking of saving httpd logs 19:17:37 <nirik> yeah? 19:17:37 <skvidal> more automagic there might be good 19:17:43 <skvidal> from either apps themselves 19:17:46 <skvidal> or from apache 19:17:50 <skvidal> given FAS this week 19:18:03 <nirik> yeah, I just added the stg instances to log02's sync script. 19:18:08 <nirik> thats what made me think about this. 19:18:12 <skvidal> :) 19:18:18 <nirik> but yeah, might be better to do it in a better way 19:18:25 <nirik> #topic Sysadmin status / discussion 19:18:41 <nirik> So, on the sysadmin side, we did a full update/reboot cycle this last week on our machines and cloud. 19:19:07 <nirik> mirrorlist server melted down a few times. ;( we should look at mitigation/solutions there. 19:19:07 <skvidal> and almost everything went wrong 19:19:12 <holmed> Sorry, which machines are these? What do they do? 19:19:19 <skvidal> holmed: they do everything 19:19:29 <skvidal> and by which machines it is 'all of them' pretty much 19:19:41 <nirik> holmed: all our servers that build, manage and produce fedora. 19:19:57 <holmed> And you take them all down at the same time? 19:20:05 <nirik> nope. :) 19:20:07 <threebean> well, we didn't want to. :P 19:20:26 <skvidal> well the cloud is "special" 19:20:31 <nirik> we have a bunch we can do anytime... either because they are not always doing something, or because we have several servers doing that same thing. 19:20:47 <nirik> we have a very small number that when we do them it causes outages... mostly database servers. 19:20:55 <nirik> we had a scheduled outage tuesday to do those. 19:20:57 <holmed> Oh 19:21:29 <nirik> lets see... what else did we have on the sysadmin side... 19:21:59 <skvidal> new builder migration to ansible 19:21:59 <nirik> Oh, we have some new storage that will hopefully come on line soon. 19:22:08 <nirik> skvidal: ah yes. 19:22:23 <nirik> #info builder setup has been moved to ansible. 19:22:30 <nirik> skvidal: can we remove the old builder repo now? 19:22:34 <skvidal> not quite yet 19:22:35 <nirik> or move it aside? 19:22:37 <nirik> ok 19:22:37 <skvidal> I need to port the scripts over 19:22:41 <skvidal> but we can stop using it 19:22:47 <holmed> So, to clarify, SysAdmins Administrate the Systems of Fedora e.g. Website host? And what else do these servers do? 19:23:09 <skvidal> I still need to portand test the bkernel boxes 19:23:14 <nirik> skvidal: oh, there's a problem with releng01. I'll ping you outside the meeting to track that down. 19:23:20 <skvidal> nirik: ah - thanks 19:23:53 <nirik> holmed: yeah. So, websites, builders, compose machines, signers, updates management, download servers, wiki, docs, you name it. 19:24:02 <nirik> holmed: if it's under 'fedoraproject.org' it's us. ;) 19:24:07 <threebean> holmed: lots and lots -- there's a pretty comprehensive list of the services we maintain at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/ 19:24:36 <holmed> Wow. I didn't think it was that big. 19:24:45 <nirik> I think we are around 180ish instances now? 19:25:43 <jerzyr> this graph (fedora apps) is really super 19:25:56 <nirik> it's pretty cool. thank threebean for setting it up 19:26:29 <nirik> ok, I think thats it on sysadmin... unless we want to try and brainstorm for a few about mirrorlists. 19:27:29 <nirik> #topic Freeze 19:27:36 <nirik> so, we have a freeze coming up next tuesday. 19:27:48 <nirik> We discussed changing what machines were covered. 19:28:01 <nirik> shall we finalize that before this freeze and use the new method? 19:28:18 <skvidal> yah 19:28:19 <skvidal> sure 19:28:23 <nirik> it was: "assume every machine is frozen, except for list of machines that is not" 19:28:29 <nirik> (I think thats what we decided) 19:28:42 <nirik> if so, we need to for sure note the ones excepted. 19:29:10 <skvidal> nirik: right 19:29:13 * nirik looks back on the list. 19:29:49 <nirik> oh right. None of *stg* or *dev* are frozen ever 19:30:17 <nirik> I can send a proposed list of non frozen hosts to the lists for discussion? 19:30:21 <skvidal> I think so 19:30:30 <skvidal> and then we can add them to the ansible inventory files in host_vars 19:30:39 <skvidal> so we can dump them out with that inventory script pretty easily 19:30:53 <nirik> right. and we can note the script. Should we have that dump out to /var/log/ on lockbox or something? 19:32:01 <nirik> #info will finalize the list of non frozen hosts before tuesday. 19:32:31 <nirik> #topic geoip 19:32:43 <nirik> So, there's a thread on the list about a geoip service... 19:32:54 <holmed> What is GeoIP? 19:32:55 <nirik> the anaconda folks would like to be able to use something to set some defaults on installs. 19:33:05 <nirik> locating someone by their ip address. 19:33:12 <holmed> Also who're the anaconda folks? 19:33:16 <nirik> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoip 19:33:31 <nirik> anaconda is the fedora installer. :) 19:33:47 <holmed> Oh, i thought i'd seen it somewhere 19:33:53 <threebean> and the anconda folks are the people who work on improving the fedora installer. 19:34:26 <holmed> And what needs to be done about geoip? 19:34:28 <nirik> so, not sure where this discussion will lead, but we might be running another apache mod to provide this information to them 19:34:44 <nirik> holmed: they have asked us if we can run a server to provide that info to them. 19:35:13 <nirik> I've suggested they also look at the geoclue library, which might do what they want without us having to run a server. ;) 19:35:46 <nirik> so, mostly I just wanted to bring this up... 19:35:48 <holmed> The location of the user? 19:36:04 <skvidal> nirik: I'm in favor of not running another service 19:36:08 <nirik> yes. So they can set things like timezone and language... or at least default those to the local area. 19:36:28 <holmed> Ah i get it 19:36:30 <nirik> if you install fedora in germany, it could see that and set your timezone and lang and possibly other stuff. 19:36:34 <nirik> skvidal: me too. 19:36:36 <holmed> Yeah 19:36:58 <nirik> ok, moving on, just wanted to note it. :) 19:37:01 <nirik> #topic Private Cloud status update / discussion 19:37:11 <nirik> we also updated and rebooted our private cloud this week. 19:37:15 <kushalk124_> Geoclue seems to be a good option 19:37:34 <nirik> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure_private_cloud 19:37:38 <skvidal> and things broke 19:37:40 <skvidal> left and right 19:37:44 <skvidal> We fixed most of them 19:37:45 <nirik> and yeah, it didn't go great. 19:37:49 <nirik> but I think we are all back working right? 19:37:55 <skvidal> nirik: yes and no 19:38:02 <skvidal> yes - all the instances we know about are back up 19:38:15 <skvidal> no - there are stil lsome old 'shut off' instances that I can't figure out who they belonged to 19:38:25 <skvidal> I'm going to go back through the logs and figure out who the yare 19:38:28 <skvidal> and either kill them 19:38:33 <skvidal> or try to restore them 19:38:49 <nirik> ok. 19:38:53 <nirik> sounds good. 19:38:54 <skvidal> otherwise it came up ok 19:39:06 <nirik> #info reboot didn't go well, we have provided feedback to openstack folks about it. 19:39:08 <skvidal> also nirik and I discovered we didn't have the same thought on what the passwords were for those clouds :) 19:39:12 <skvidal> that's been corrected :) 19:39:17 <nirik> #info back up and running now for the most part. 19:39:22 <skvidal> on the plus side 19:39:28 <skvidal> other than the actual time they were off 19:39:33 <skvidal> the instances came back pretty well 19:39:36 <skvidal> and the suspending of them worked 19:39:40 <skvidal> except for a couple of little details 19:39:44 <skvidal> like the time being way offf 19:40:09 <skvidal> anyway - that's all 19:40:45 <nirik> yeah, always learning on this stuff. ;) 19:40:52 <nirik> #topic flock 19:41:04 <nirik> http://flocktofedora.org/ 19:41:09 <nirik> so, this is coming up in aug 19:41:35 <nirik> submissions are open for talks, hackfests, sprints, etc 19:41:51 <nirik> everyone should think about what they could submit. 19:42:04 <nirik> Or... what they would like to see other folks talk on. :) 19:42:19 * threebean isn't sure if oddshocks is in the meeting today.. 19:42:20 <nirik> we have about a million things we could do as hackfests. 19:42:31 <threebean> but we should probably do a talk on the badges stuff we're working on this summer. 19:42:36 <nirik> +1 19:43:04 <nirik> I think we should do a ansible hackfest. 19:43:24 <skvidal> ooo 19:43:26 * nirik might try and find time to actually work on formulas again and do something around that. 19:43:32 <skvidal> or a postgres replication hackfest 19:43:51 <nirik> I could do any kind of intro to infra or whatever talks if people think there would be interest. 19:43:53 <pvod> skvidal: +1 19:43:56 <nirik> skvidal: yes! 19:44:10 <skvidal> nirik: I wonder if TGL is coming - maybe get him to lead that one :) 19:44:29 <nirik> that would be great. At least figuring out for sure how we want to go. 19:44:43 <nirik> we could also do something around bugtrackers if we wanted. 19:45:06 <threebean> yeah 19:45:11 <puiterwijk> I have currently submitted a talk on OpenID 19:45:14 <nirik> (get qa/kernel/maintainers all involved to gather actual better requirements) 19:45:25 <nirik> puiterwijk: excellent. Like the one you gave on irc? 19:45:31 <puiterwijk> nirik: yeah 19:45:47 <nirik> great. I found that very informative. 19:45:54 <skvidal> so last year 19:46:04 <skvidal> I had a bike shed built in my yard 19:46:04 <puiterwijk> nirik: let's hope the flock organizers think the same 19:46:11 <skvidal> and I think I might talk about selecting paint colors for it 19:46:23 <skvidal> we ultimately went with 'off white/grayish' 19:46:27 <skvidal> but it took a lot of discussion 19:46:29 <skvidal> :) 19:46:43 <nirik> skvidal: I think that might be too controversal... the flock folks would never select that talk. ;) 19:46:49 <skvidal> heh 19:47:18 <puiterwijk> I had also been thinking about submitting an hackfest for the OAuth ideas we had (at least discuss it) 19:47:24 <nirik> anyhow, please propose talks/etc... and if you can think of ones other people could give, ask them. ;) 19:47:38 <Southern_Gentlem> *crys* 19:47:46 <nirik> puiterwijk: I think that might go better as a workshop ? 19:48:05 <puiterwijk> nirik: sure, could do as well. I just didn't know the major difference between those three ;) 19:48:34 <nirik> yeah, might be good to make sure what is what there. ;) 19:48:42 <nirik> ok, any other flock talk? (har har) 19:49:11 <nirik> #topic Upcoming Tasks/Items 19:49:20 <nirik> #info 2013-05-14 to 2013-05-28 BETA infrastructure freeze 19:49:20 <nirik> #info 2013-05-20 - bugzilla upgrade. 19:49:20 <nirik> #info 2013-05-28 F19 beta release 19:49:20 <nirik> #info 2013-05-31 end of 1st quarter 19:49:20 <nirik> #info 2013-06-01 nag fi-apprentices 19:49:21 <nirik> #info 2013-06-08 drop inactive apprentices 19:49:23 <nirik> #info 2013-06-18 to 2013-07-02 FINAL infrastructure freeze. 19:49:25 <nirik> #info 2013-07-01 nag fi-apprentices 19:49:27 <nirik> #info 2013-07-02 F19 FINAL release 19:49:31 <nirik> any other items folks would like to note or schedule? 19:49:41 <abadger1999> bugzilla upgrade -- where are we on testing our scripts? 19:49:42 * nirik should move this all to a infrastructure calendar. 19:49:43 <tflink> ooh, bugzilla upgrade in the middle of freeze ... again 19:49:48 <nirik> tflink: yeah. ;( 19:50:09 <nirik> abadger1999: good question. I think mostly we are good... not sure if bodhi has been checked yet. 19:50:19 <nirik> there might be some others. 19:50:28 <abadger1999> I know rview-stats and pkgdb-bugzilla-sync are working both in prod with py-bz-0.8 and partner w/ that + new bugzilla server 19:50:37 <abadger1999> not sure about anything else 19:50:40 <nirik> did partner get updates? 19:50:43 <nirik> updted? 19:50:46 <abadger1999> (and I know that pkgdb is broken) 19:50:55 <abadger1999> at least the bugz. link 19:50:59 <tflink> wouldn't the stg switch to partner-bugzilla and python-bugzilla-0.8 catch most of the possible breakage? 19:51:02 <threebean> hm, I haven't checked the /packages app either. 19:51:17 <nirik> tflink: mostly... we don't test bodhi there tho for example. 19:51:46 <abadger1999> nirik: not sure about partner being updated or not. 19:51:51 <nirik> yeah, partner is on 4.4 19:52:00 <threebean> (/packages looks okay in staging) 19:52:57 <nirik> so, I guess we should try and check the list thru again and see... 19:53:30 <nirik> most things are ok though now I think. 19:53:54 <nirik> we do have the new python-bugzilla in prod now. 19:54:01 <nirik> (but bugzilla.redhat.com isn't 4.4 yet) 19:54:34 <nirik> #info Open Floor 19:54:52 <nirik> #topic Open Floor 19:54:54 <nirik> whoops 19:54:57 <puiterwijk> heh :) 19:55:03 <abadger1999> nirik: is the new python-bugzilla everywherre in prod? I know some hosts (fas servers, app01) weren't upgraded 19:55:05 <nirik> Any items for open floor? questions? comments? 19:55:18 * abadger1999 checks if those were fixed 19:55:18 <nirik> abadger1999: I think it is now, I didn't exclude it on tuesday. 19:55:24 <abadger1999> <nod> Cool 19:55:52 <threebean> I just got fedora-tagger-2.0.3 pushed out and everything seems to be fine :) https://apps.fedoraproject.org/tagger/nethack 19:56:09 <nirik> threebean: does this have that tag url that bodhi needed? 19:56:13 * threebean nods 19:56:20 <nirik> coolio 19:57:20 <skvidal> nirik: something for open floor 19:57:28 <skvidal> the fas thing this week 19:57:32 <nirik> yeah. 19:57:40 <skvidal> it was discovered by relrod looking at something in the code he was working on 19:57:44 <skvidal> and noticing it was 'odd' 19:57:55 <skvidal> if anyone here notices something 'odd' 19:58:02 <skvidal> and thinks 'no, surely they know about this' 19:58:08 <skvidal> don't call use 'shirley' 19:58:08 <skvidal> :) 19:58:12 <skvidal> please tell us 19:58:13 <nirik> +a lot 19:58:14 <abadger1999> +1 19:58:35 <threebean> :P 19:58:36 <skvidal> to be fair the obscurity of the issue helped us 19:58:49 <nirik> agreed. I'm amazed at how long it had been around. 19:58:51 <skvidal> but we're quite happy relrod mentioned it 19:59:11 <skvidal> we are reasonably confident that this was not used by anyone 19:59:15 <skvidal> but not COMPLETELY so 19:59:19 <nirik> yes indeed. Kudos to relrod for noticing it. 19:59:20 <skvidal> so - when in doubt - change your password 19:59:42 <skvidal> but I would not freak out about changing the password :) 19:59:59 <puiterwijk> skvidal: probably also the security question/answer if you're really scared? 20:00:11 <nirik> when in doubt, scream and shout? oh wait, thats not right. 20:00:33 <skvidal> puiterwijk: indeed - but to be fair my security question/answer is more 'nirik calls me and says - someone requested your account password be changed, that's hilarious, isn't it?' 20:00:33 <nirik> anyhow, if nothing else, will close out the meeting in a few. 20:00:42 <nirik> skvidal: :) 20:00:43 <skvidal> puiterwijk: :) 20:00:48 <puiterwijk> skvidal: heh, yeah :) 20:00:54 <Southern_Gentlem> require a yearly password change like a lot of companies and uni do 20:01:01 <nirik> lets continue over in #fedora-admin, #fedora-noc and #fedora-apps 20:01:10 <nirik> Southern_Gentlem: not worth the pain and horror I fear. 20:01:29 <skvidal> okie doke 20:01:34 <nirik> #endmeeting

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EMEA ambassadors meeting minutes
by Jiri Eischmann 08 May '13

08 May '13

Hi, we had another EMEA ambassadors meeting. It lasted for 1 hour and 45 minutes and 13 ambassadors attended. If you want to know more, read the minutes: Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-05-08/emea_ambassadors… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-05-08/emea_ambassadors… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-05-08/emea_ambassadors… The next meeting will be on May 22nd. Jiri

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Fedora ARM Weekly Status Meeting Minutes 2013-05-08
by Paul Whalen 08 May '13

08 May '13

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