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Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2013-07-03)
by Toshio Kuratomi 11 Jul '13

11 Jul '13

================================= #fedora-meeting: FESCO 2013-07-10 ================================= Meeting started by abadger1999 at 18:01:56 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-07-10/fesco.2013-07-10… . Meeting summary --------------- * init process (abadger1999, 18:03:00) * #1132 libtool + %global _hardened_build 1 = no full hardening (abadger1999, 18:06:01) * ACTION: -- abadger199 to mention we've defered for input from ajax in bugzilla; pjones will ping out-of-band (abadger1999, 18:10:49) * Next week's chair (abadger1999, 18:10:57) * ACTION: mitr to chair the next meeting (abadger1999, 18:19:19) * Open Floor (abadger1999, 18:19:47) * 1134 Strategy for Self Contained change to System Wide change escalation https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1134 (abadger1999, 18:20:39) * APPROVED: (+1:8, 0:0, -1:0) any fesco member or the wrangler can decide to escalate a self-contained feature to systemwide by noting that they're escalating it as part of the mailing list discussion. (abadger1999, 18:29:32) * F20 branch date? (abadger1999, 18:29:54) * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Schedule#Key_Milestones (abadger1999, 18:34:08) * Open Floor (abadger1999, 18:45:55) * koji outage planned for the end of next week. Talk to infrastructure if that interferes with something important (abadger1999, 18:47:35) Meeting ended at 18:54:13 UTC. Action Items ------------ * -- abadger199 to mention we've defered for input from ajax in bugzilla; pjones will ping out-of-band * mitr to chair the next meeting Action Items, by person ----------------------- * mitr * mitr to chair the next meeting * pjones * -- abadger199 to mention we've defered for input from ajax in bugzilla; pjones will ping out-of-band * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * abadger1999 (46) * sgallagh (20) * jreznik (18) * t8m (17) * mitr (13) * tflink (10) * nirik (10) * pjones (9) * zodbot (6) * mattdm (4) * mmaslano (4) * notting (3) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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2013-07-08 - Fedora QA Meeting - recap
by Adam Williamson 09 Jul '13

09 Jul '13

As always, minutes and IRC transcript available on the wiki at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20130708 Next meeting is scheduled for 2013-07-15 at 1500 UTC in #fedora-meeting. If you have topics you think we should bring up at the meeting, please add them to the Wiki page at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20130715 . Thanks! TOPIC: Fedora 20 Change validation ======================================================================= * At last week's meeting jreznik requested validation of at least systemwide Changes for F20: can we do this? * After some discussion, it was agreed that we cannot commit to do any form of 'validation testing' for any and all systemwide Changes sight unseen: when FESCo approves the F20 ChangeSet we will re-consider this issue and come up with a realistic plan for testing what we can of the approved Changes TOPIC: Test Days ======================================================================= * We were asked by dpal[1] if we can have an 'out of cycle' test day for some planned FreeIPA enhancements to be added to F19 as updates * We agreed there are no problems with an out of cycle test day, we'll run it as always and append it to the F19 test day schedule * Fedora 20 schedule may be quite tight so we should send out call for F20 test days soon TOPIC: Open floor ======================================================================= * wwoods was looking for help triaging fedup bugs, contact nirik to sign up * nirik will talk to anaconda team about doing regular installer composes (again?) Action items ======================================================================= N/A 1. https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-qa/ticket/389 -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net

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Fedora Docs Meeting Minutes - 8Jul2013
by Pete Travis 08 Jul '13

08 Jul '13

==================================================================================================== #fedora-meeting: Docs Project Meeting - Agenda: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_meetings ==================================================================================================== Meeting started by randomuser at 14:01:18 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-07-08/fedora_docs.2013… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (randomuser, 14:01:18) * follow up on action items (randomuser, 14:05:33) * ACTION: randomuser to clear master branch of RNs and wiki beats (randomuser, 14:07:11) * Release Notes - Changes coming (randomuser, 14:07:19) * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes (randomuser, 14:14:10) * Guide Status (randomuser, 14:18:35) * please help jhradilek identify where the system administrator's guide needs work (randomuser, 14:23:36) * whoever publishes next, if you see an error about some other guide when running install_book, please report it to the list (randomuser, 14:34:15) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_admin_tasks_for_new_contributors (randomuser, 14:36:39) * Guide Owners, if you have tasks that are easy to pick up, please help out new contributors by adding them to the list (randomuser, 14:37:11) * Outstanding BZ Tickets (randomuser, 14:43:31) * LINK: http://tinyurl.com/lbrq84 (randomuser, 14:43:39) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=755563 (randomuser, 14:44:31) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=707687 (randomuser, 14:46:35) * Open Floor (randomuser, 14:53:27) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/3860 <- if folks could answer those questions or add to cc folks who can, we can try and move that forward. ;) (nirik, 14:55:27) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/3860 (randomuser, 14:57:45) Meeting ended at 15:00:08 UTC. Action Items ------------ * randomuser to clear master branch of RNs and wiki beats Action Items, by person ----------------------- * randomuser * randomuser to clear master branch of RNs and wiki beats * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * randomuser (63) * jhradilek (21) * pkovar (8) * jreznik (7) * nirik (5) * zodbot (4) * pbokoc (2) * Capesteve (2) * yruseva (1) * sgordon (1) * Sparks (1) ----------------------- -- -- Pete Travis - Fedora Docs Project Leader - 'randomuser' on freenode - immanetize(a)fedoraproject.org

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APAC meeting Summary = Saturday, July 6th, 2013 at 04:00 UTC
by Suresh Packiyarajah 06 Jul '13

06 Jul '13

Hello All, ====================== #fedora-meeting: FAmAPAC ====================== Meeting started by FranciscoD at 04:00:52 2013 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-07-06/apac_meeting_201… http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-07-06/apac_meeting_201… http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-07-06/apac_meeting_201… ============================== ================= Meeting summary --------------- * Init process (FranciscoD, 04:01:13) * tuanta won't make it. He's travelling. Sends regrets. (FranciscoD, 04:03:22) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2013-06-22#Agenda (FranciscoD, 04:03:28) * Announcements (FranciscoD, 04:03:59) * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F19_release_events (FranciscoD, 04:04:34) * Small event in Pune for contributors in the future (FranciscoD, 04:06:49) * ACTION: maktrix put up wiki page for event (FranciscoD, 04:08:20) * ACTION: jurank_dankkal please speak to tuanta and clarify the budgeting part (FranciscoD, 04:11:10) * Review action items from last meeting (FranciscoD, 04:13:27) * ACTION: tuanta to open a new ticket to discuss more about organizing real get-something-done FADs in APAC (FranciscoD, 04:14:38) * ACTION: FranciscoD think of what event reports should cover (FranciscoD, 04:15:36) * ACTION: udinnet announce event date for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Technical_Seminar_with_F18_University… (FranciscoD, 04:15:55) * ACTION: mark item as *done* -> maeniel udinnet Suresht nangthang *everyone*: if you're interested in helping with budgets, please volunteer with a comment on ticket 79 (FranciscoD, 04:16:46) * ACTION: KageSenshi to buy everyone light sabers ;) (FranciscoD, 04:17:10) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/87 (suresht, 04:18:12) * trac tickets (FranciscoD, 04:18:29) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/87 (FranciscoD, 04:18:42) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/82 (FranciscoD, 04:23:08) * Electromech planning a release event (FranciscoD, 04:25:32) * Open floor (FranciscoD, 04:25:43) * LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/legal/2013-July/002200.html is one email can tell a lot. (kushal, 04:29:18) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2013-07-06#Open_Flo… (dramsey, 04:41:32) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events?rd=FedoraEvents#FY14_Q2_.28June_2013_… (dramsey, 04:43:25) Meeting ended at 04:54:34 UTC. Action Items ------------ * maktrix put up wiki page for event * jurank_dankkal please speak to tuanta and clarify the budgeting part * tuanta to open a new ticket to discuss more about organizing real get-something-done FADs in APAC * FranciscoD think of what event reports should cover * udinnet announce event date for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Technical_Seminar_with_F18_University… * mark item as *done* -> maeniel udinnet Suresht nangthang *everyone*: if you're interested in helping with budgets, please volunteer with a comment on ticket 79 * KageSenshi to buy everyone light sabers ;) Action Items, by person ----------------------- * FranciscoD * FranciscoD think of what event reports should cover * jurank_dankkal * jurank_dankkal please speak to tuanta and clarify the budgeting part * KageSenshi * KageSenshi to buy everyone light sabers ;) * maktrix * maktrix put up wiki page for event * **UNASSIGNED** * tuanta to open a new ticket to discuss more about organizing real get-something-done FADs in APAC * udinnet announce event date for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Technical_Seminar_with_F18_University… * mark item as *done* -> maeniel udinnet Suresht nangthang *everyone*: if you're interested in helping with budgets, please volunteer with a comment on ticket 79 People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * FranciscoD (127) * dramsey (80) * kushal (26) * suresht (25) * MarkDude (24) * jurank_dankkal (21) * zodbot (21) * KageSenshi (21) * maktrix (19) * kishan (4) * pravins (4) * masta (3) * nirik (3) * aeperezt (3) * inode0 (2) * paragan (2) * ianweller (2) Thanks, Suresh

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2013-07-01 - Fedora QA Meeting - recap
by Adam Williamson 05 Jul '13

05 Jul '13

Please ignore the previous version of this mail: I was typing it in webmail instead of Evolution as usual, and wound up sending it by mistake before it was complete. As always, minutes and IRC transcript available on the wiki at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20130701 Next meeting is scheduled for 2013-07-08 at 1500 UTC in #fedora-meeting. If you have topics you think we should bring up at the meeting, please add them to the Wiki page at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20130708 . Thanks! The agenda for next week looks pretty thin, so it may be cancelled if nothing important comes up. TOPIC: Fedora 19 retrospective and wrap-up ======================================================================= * The Fedora_19_QA_Retrospective[1] page is now up and ready for feedback * No-one had any other major post-F19 topics that weren't already in hand TOPIC: Fedora 20 planning ======================================================================= * nirik and dgilmore will be proposing a new policy for deciding which spins to ship for F20 * adamw will continue with Final criteria rewrite and look at updating the validation test case set * With the new Changes[2] policy, the F20 'feature list' is Releases/20/ChangeSet[3] * jreznik would like to see functional validation of Changes for F20 TOPIC: Taskbot ======================================================================= * The current AutoQA setup is running on F17 which will go EOL soon: we may need to spend time moving it to something newer * tflink says we're hoping to have a functional taskbot in place during F20 cycle TOPIC: Open floor ======================================================================= * The spin-kickstarts package build process has been improved, which may make it less of a pain to do package updates Action items ======================================================================= * adamw to add an item for Change validation discussion to next week's agenda 1. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_QA_Retrospective 2. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/20/ChangeSet 3. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/20/ChangeSet -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net

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2013-07-01 - Fedora QA Meeting - recap
by Adam Williamson 05 Jul '13

05 Jul '13

As always, minutes and IRC transcript available on the wiki at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20130701 Next meeting is scheduled for 2013-07-08 at 1500 UTC in #fedora-meeting. If you have topics you think we should bring up at the meeting, please add them to the Wiki page at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20130708 . Thanks! The agenda for next week looks pretty thin, so it may be cancelled if nothing important comes up. TOPIC: Fedora 19 retrospective and wrap-up ======================================================================= * The Fedora_19_QA_Retrospective page is now up and ready for feedback No-one had any other major post-F19 topics that weren't already in hand TOPIC: Fedora 19 Final planning ======================================================================= * TC1 was due 2013-06-04, adamw would ensure it got composed * mjg59 informed us a kernel patch is coming which ought to resolve most of the UEFI variable space issues; it should be included in TC1 TOPIC: Test Days ======================================================================= * Test_Day:2013-05-28_Virtualization[4] and Test_Day:2013-05-30_Spice[5] both went off quite successfully, we saw testing and developer feedback in both * Test_Day:2013-06-04_Network_Manager[6] and Test_Day:2013-06-06_FreeIPA_Two_Factor_Authentication[7] both looked ready to go, kparal was working on a live image for NM test day TOPIC: Open floor ======================================================================= N/A Action items ======================================================================= * adamw to mark LLVMpipe-without-SSE2 bug as needing a release note and explain why to docs team 1. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F19_bugs 2. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2013-05-21_AnacondaNewUI_Followup 3. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Fedora_19-sugar_test_cases 4. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2013-05-28_Virtualization 5. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2013-05-30_Spice 6. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2013-06-04_Network_Manager 7. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2013-06-06_FreeIPA_Two_Factor_Authe… -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test(a)lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

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Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2013-07-03)
by Stephen Gallagher 03 Jul '13

03 Jul '13

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 =================================== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2013-07-03) =================================== Meeting started by sgallagh at 18:01:28 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-07-03/fesco.2013-07-03… . Meeting summary - --------------- * init process (sgallagh, 18:01:39) * #1128 switching from "-fstack-protector" to "-fstack-protector-strong" in Fedora 20 (sgallagh, 18:07:05) * ACTION: sgallagh to ping panu about including -fstack-protector-strong patch (sgallagh, 18:09:32) * ACTION: abadger1999 to file mass-rebuild tracker ticket for F20. He will discuss with dgilmore where to file it. (sgallagh, 18:12:25) * AGREED: Close ticket 1128 and address remaining issues with a mass-rebuild (sgallagh, 18:14:08) * #1132 libtool + %global _hardened_build 1 = no full hardening (sgallagh, 18:14:23) * AGREED: shelve for a week, pending ajax input (sgallagh, 18:27:53) * 1131 Organize FESCo attendance at Flock (sgallagh, 18:28:03) * AGREED: Move "Meet Your FESCo" to Sunday 4pm to act as a capstone discussion for the conference. (sgallagh, 18:54:32) * ACTION: sgallagh to speak with Flock conference organizers to shuffle the schedule (sgallagh, 18:55:23) * Next week's chair (sgallagh, 18:58:17) * abadger1999 to chair next week's meeting (sgallagh, 18:58:58) * Open Floor (sgallagh, 18:59:04) Meeting ended at 19:12:37 UTC. Action Items - ------------ * sgallagh to ping panu about including -fstack-protector-strong patch * abadger1999 to file mass-rebuild tracker ticket for F20. He will discuss with dgilmore where to file it. * sgallagh to speak with Flock conference organizers to shuffle the schedule Action Items, by person - ----------------------- * abadger1999 * abadger1999 to file mass-rebuild tracker ticket for F20. He will discuss with dgilmore where to file it. * sgallagh * sgallagh to ping panu about including -fstack-protector-strong patch * sgallagh to speak with Flock conference organizers to shuffle the schedule * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) - --------------------------- * sgallagh (111) * nirik (44) * abadger1999 (43) * mattdm (32) * mitr (16) * mmaslano (10) * zodbot (8) * spot (1) * t8m (0) * pjones (0) * notting (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.13 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlHUe8UACgkQeiVVYja6o6NHAQCgiUlfnM9nYG4mfpvKUt3ZdSDd WOMAn2IjJ/4C/+PoSU64T4rwMMBA1pnJ =ES2j -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Minutes of today's "Koji/Rawhide Automated Test Plans" meeting
by Stephen Gallagher 03 Jul '13

03 Jul '13

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-07-01/discussion_of_ko… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-07-01/discussion_of_ko… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-07-01/discussion_of_ko… We should meet up again this week to continue the discussion. Sorry for my abrupt departure, but a sudden bout of very severe weather necessitated my temporary relocation. Given that tomorrow is release day, I think it makes sense to reconvene on Wednesday instead. I've created a whenisgood request to sort this out: http://whenisgood.net/4rw2g2c -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.13 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlHSAkYACgkQeiVVYja6o6NzwgCffsX8THYx9I2mNuJbaL/zw4so tcoAoJ+juYPbF6kedncF9+r4lNAp5jkn =SovP -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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FAmNA Meeting (02 Jul 2013)
by inode0 02 Jul '13

02 Jul '13

====================== #fedora-meeting: famna ====================== Meeting started by inode0 at 01:10:23 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-07-03/famna.2013-07-03… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (inode0, 01:10:48) * Announcements (inode0, 01:12:32) * Q2 Budget (inode0, 01:14:13) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/TXLF_2013#Event_Budget (inode0, 01:15:53) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SELF_2013 (inode0, 01:16:33) * Events (inode0, 01:24:34) * Media will cost $5,750.00 USD for 5,000 of the multi-live DVD DL's (nb, 01:26:15) * LINK: http://www.bigandroidbbq.com/ <--- teaser (inode0, 01:35:30) * Open Floor (inode0, 01:37:28) Meeting ended at 01:40:17 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * inode0 (32) * rbergeron (30) * suehle (8) * zodbot (5) * nb (2) * dramsey (1) John

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Fedora Docs Meeting Summary for 1 July 2013
by Pete Travis 01 Jul '13

01 Jul '13

Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-07-01/fedora_docs.2013… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-07-01/fedora_docs.2013… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-07-01/fedora_docs.2013… ==================================================================================================== #fedora-meeting: Docs Project Meeting - Agenda: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_meetings ==================================================================================================== Meeting started by randomuser at 14:29:59 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-07-01/fedora_docs.2013… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (randomuser, 14:29:59) * randomuser is late and will have to buy the coffee after (randomuser, 14:30:57) * Beats, Notes, Changes (randomuser, 14:33:34) * ACTION: randomuser to clear master branch of RNs (randomuser, 14:36:45) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F19_release_announcement (jreznik, 14:38:24) * Guide status (randomuser, 14:41:25) * a few guide subtopics to cover today (randomuser, 14:41:47) * Guide status - systemctl (randomuser, 14:41:53) * interested guide owners should ask for randomuser to help convert their guides for systemctl (randomuser, 14:46:39) * virt guides (randomuser, 14:49:03) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_guides_table (pkovar, 14:55:33) * Outstanding Bugs (randomuser, 14:57:48) * LINK: http://tinyurl.com/lbrq84 (randomuser, 14:57:56) * please mail the list if you need help with bugs (randomuser, 14:58:14) Meeting ended at 15:01:31 UTC. Action Items ------------ * randomuser to clear master branch of RNs Action Items, by person ----------------------- * randomuser * randomuser to clear master branch of RNs * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) -- -- Pete Travis - Fedora Docs Project Leader - 'randomuser' on freenode - immanetize(a)fedoraproject.org

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