r-devel October 2008

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useR! 2008
by José Abílio Matos 05 Jan '09

05 Jan '09

Hi, I am writing this from Dortmund, at the useR! 2008 conference http://www.statistik.uni-dortmund.de/useR-2008/ I will have a talk tomorrow about the interaction between R and Fedora. It is a 15 minutes session so there is not much time to expand. I will present Fedora and it interacts with R. There are several issues that are common to the relation between Fedora and languages like perl, python, latex or R. I will also take the opportunity to hear feedback from several types of users regarding the state of R in Fedora. If there is anything relevant I will report back to this list. I have asked pingou (I hope I can use this) to write to the list with the new releases of his package as it would be nice that package automatically in Fedora using yum. Regards, PS: In case you are wondering why I took so long to send this message to the list, believe that it is a long story that involves time shortage. :-) -- José Abílio

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Re: R-devel going away
by José Abílio Matos 28 Oct '08

28 Oct '08

On Thursday 23 October 2008 19:22:07 James Antill wrote: > Well it kinda fits the "people expect foo-core + additions" _assuming_ > CRAN is a requirement, but really why don't we just package more of the > R modules so CRAN usage isn't a requirement? There are more than 1500 modules (the have been growing at an exponential rate in the last years). So while we would like to see more R packages in Fedora in are not even near to have a reasonable subset of R packaged. So for the moment CRAN is really a requirement to use R in Fedora. > -- > James Antill <james(a)fedoraproject.org> > Fedora -- José Abílio

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Re: Heads-up - Bioconductor - Requires R >= 2.x.y
by Pierre-Yves Chibon 27 Oct '08

27 Oct '08

Dear all, I am currently updating the libraries from bioconductor to the version 2.3 of bioconductor made for R 2.8.0. I am adding to all these package a global variable Rversion which is then used in the Requires and BuilRequires sections. This means that those packages will not be available for previous version of R. I am planning to generalize this and to add this in R2spec. Regards, Pierre

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Re: R-devel going away
by Tom Callaway 23 Oct '08

23 Oct '08

On Thu, 2008-10-23 at 16:34 +0200, Enrico Scholz wrote: > Better solutions: > > * add it to comps.xml > * move 'R' to R-core, and add 'R' which depends on 'R-core' + > 'R-devel' > > > > * The size of the R-devel is tiny, about 440K installed. > > You miss its dependencies: > > bzip2-devel > gcc-c++ > gcc-gfortran > libICE-devel > libSM-devel > libX11-devel > libXmu-devel > libXt-devel > libjpeg-devel > libpng-devel > ncurses-devel > pkgconfig > readline-devel > tcl-devel > tetex-latex > texinfo > tk-devel These are very good points, thanks Enrico. What would people think about doing the suggested R/R-core/R-devel split instead? Users would still be able to get everything with yum install R, it would meet the guidelines, and minimal installs with R can simply have R-core. ~spot

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R-devel going away
by Tom Callaway 23 Oct '08

23 Oct '08

This email serves as an announcement that I plan to swallow up R-devel into the base R package. Why? * It is causing no end of user complaints. The typical R user expects to be able to do a "CPAN" (really, I should say "CRAN") style package install through the R interface: install.packages("RSQLite") This doesn't work unless you have R-devel installed. The average R user is a professor or a student, and neither of them are going to necessarily possess the necessary Linux/Fedora knowledge to be able to understand why this doesn't work like the R documentation says it should. * The size of the R-devel is tiny, about 440K installed. It will not bloat the main package to absorb the .h files and a .pc file into the main package. There are no libraries in the R-devel package. * The primary users of R-devel are R addon packages. They can continue to BuildRequires: R-devel safely (hooray for Provides/Requires). * libRmath (the R shared library) will still be a separate package. libRmath-devel will still be a separate package. As far as I know, nothing in Fedora uses libRmath, nor is libRmath-devel necessary for building R addons. Now, I recognize that this is a violation of the Fedora Packaging Guidelines, and I've given a lot of thought to this over the last few days, and technically, this is a reversal of my earlier stance (which is to stick to the guidelines). However, I think this is a key functionality that Fedora R users expect to just work, and I want to try to make sure that they get the best R experience out of the box that they can. As Martyn Plummer pointed out: There are currently 1533 packages/bundles on CRAN, not counting the recommended packages that are already distributed with R. Of these packages, 420 require to the R headers. Fedora only supplies RPMs for 9 of them. I'm not entirely sure if I need FESCo or FPC approval to take this action, if so, this is my notice of requesting it. ;) I'm also looking for feedback and comments, of course. Thanks, ~spot (Fedora R maintainer)

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R2spec version 2.5.1
by Pierre-Yves Chibon 08 Oct '08

08 Oct '08

Dear list, As previously I am announcing here the new release of R2spec, the version 2.5.1. Here is the changelog for this version: # Version 2.5.1 -- 07th Oct 2008 # -Features added # * Add the summary from Title in the DESCRIPTION file # * Add the possibility to have a ~/.R2spec.conf which overrides the /etc/R2spec.conf # -Bugs correction # * Correct a typo SOURCES != SOURCE # * Copy from ./ to ~/rpmbuild and not ../ Bug #1 # * Change "summary should be not be longer than that" to "summary should be not be longer than this" # * Create the function finishName in the spec class to avoid redundancy in the code # * Move the check of the specfile to Package.py to avoid redundancy in the code # * Change some layout in the output Feed back, bugs and suggestions welcome here or in : https://fedorahosted.org/r2spec Thanks, Have a nice day, Pierre

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