ambassadors December 2007

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Ambassador Meeting this wednesday !
by Thomas Canniot 11 Dec '07

11 Dec '07

Ladies and gentlemen ! You all know there was a FAD meeting two weeks ago in Rheinfelden between all interested EMEA people (Europe, the Middle East and Africa). During this meeting, these Ambassadors decided it would be a good idea to stay in touch with each other. Then, an IRC meeting is organised, and it's this week on #fedora-meeting : day : Wednesday, December 12th time : 20:OO UTC (check http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=12&month=12&year=2… to know your own time depending on your countries) channel : #fedora-meeting meeting agenda : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2007-12-12 So, if you're an EMEA ambassador, this meeting is for YOU! Update your agendas, and don't forget to join us. 2 other reminders will be sent tomorrow and wednesday mornings, but that's not a good reason to update your agenda now :) Thomas Canniot

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Machines roll out at Bijra High school
by subhodip biswas 09 Dec '07

09 Dec '07

Hi ! Many of you may be aware of Bijra High School Project [http://www.dgplug.org/intro/bijra] [http://bijra.dgplug.org] of dgplug [http://www.dgplug.org] . On 15th November 2007 we had a grand inauguration of the project. The initial idea was to open the world of computing to poor students . This has been done using completely free and opensource softwares. WBUT (West Bengal University of Technology ) and L2C2 Technology lend us a helping by providing few computers to the school. An LTSP server running fedora 7 along with few old PIII machines has been deployed. Not only that as most students lack proper English knowledge so the whole implementation has been done using bengali (native language ) BN_IN locale . The area also lack a proper internet connection so kiwix (offline wikipedia), wordnet (a dictionary dump) , project gutenburg dvd dump ( collection of english classics) are among the few softwares implemented to provide a complete education setup . So this help them not only in learning computers but also in computer aided learning. -- Regards Subhodip Biswas Fedora ambassador West Bengal, India GPG key : FAEA34AB Server : pgp.mit.edu http://subhodipbiswas.wordpress.com http:/www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SubhodipBiswas

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FAD/EMEA 2007 Results?
by Christoph Wickert 08 Dec '07

08 Dec '07

Hello to everybody, especially to the attendees of the FAD/EMEA 2007, there was much noise about the FAD/EMEA 2007 on this list before the event, but not a single word about it afterwards. There are no meeting minutes in the wiki ether, only some links to private blog postings. Unfortunately these posts only cover the 'informal' part of the FAD. So I wonder: What did you guys do in Rheinfelden? Anything you'd like to share with us? Christoph

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Fedora and CentOS - the perfect team on the way to replace our current SuSE Linux and SLES systems
by Robert Scheck 07 Dec '07

07 Dec '07

Hello all, I think, today is a good day, to tell you something about my (indirect) success as Fedora Ambassador. When I started working at my current employer about 1.5 years ago, everything there was running SuSE Linux or SuSE Linux Enterprise Server. And my workstation got the brand-new SuSE Linux 10.1 on it, too. Then the time for new mailservers came as we're a webhosting provider also offering e-mail services. In the end, CentOS 5.0 won the comparison of the different Enterprise Linux distributions - mostly because of the financial aspect. During the installation of these machines, it was a real progress to see, that own repositories can be made and Fedora packages can be taken and rebuilt for CentOS to use them there. As I'm a Fedora Packager as well, I know how to do such things of course. I started maintaining many of the packages in EPEL we first tried in our own repository. Some packages are still not in EPEL, because they somehow conflict with the guidelines, but that doesn't matter for us. Maybe the upcoming RPM Fusion (the sucessor of Livna others) will solve these things then. With the time, it was recognized, that CentOS is just good. It has packages we need, it works, it has long term support and it has a nice price. On the other hand, SuSE Linux Enterprise Server started sucking. Xen as delivered with SLES 10 SP1 isn't that Enterprise ready as Novell told some years ago. The biggest problem was, that the latest YaST Online Update brought "fixes" which caused xen-vm-install, the command line utility to create new virtual machines on SLES, to fail. Unfortunately we were not able to switch back, because the updated package also contained other fixes, we really needed. I tried to inform Novell about this programming bug (a typical python error); but they just told me, that with the update subscription, we only have, we can't report such things without opening a paid ticket. Wow! Paying money for reporting bugs they introduced by a lack of QA? In the end, a very nice guy from the Security Team took the issue and forwarded it internally to the Xen team (if somebody is interested, it's Novell Bugzilla ID #336779). The nearly 2 month old bug is still not fixed, because of the wrong support level we bought. As far as I know, the price for extending the support for this special case is more expensive rather buying two new SLES packages. In the mean time, we tried CentOS at some customers and it worked like a charme: EPEL, CentOS Plus and our own repository. In the end, I had to work around that Xen bug by rebuilding python-virtinst from CentOS on the SLES system to get the ability back to create virtual machines without X by an easy way - it just works perfect. It was the first time, nobody answered my e-mail on the SLES mailing list after describing the technical details for this workaround. CentOS provides at least for us the same or better quality as Novell does with SuSE Linux Enterprise Server, but for free. Of course, CentOS is "only" a rebuild of Red Hat Enterprise Linux, but if there will be a heavy critical system, I'm sure, we'll buy a RHEL with subscription. On the other hand, not buying always a RHEL package/subscription gives us the possibility to donate the money we save in parts or in whole to the CentOS or Fedora Project to improve their work and quality further on. And this also possibly increases the quality of Red Hat Enterprise Linux (in the case when the donation goes to the Fedora Project, CentOS mostly needs money for their infrastructure, not for developing bleeding edge stuff). Please notice, that we're a tiny company having a couple of customers, so we don't talk about hundreds or thousands of CentOS installations. Let us see, how many years we will need to achieve the (our) first hundred CentOS installations at all. Why I'm talking so much about CentOS here, even it's a Fedora list? Well... CentOS comes from Red Hat Enterprise Linux and that comes from Fedora. But to have some real Fedora success, too: My two managers installed their new laptops with Fedora 8 with encrypted root and swap partitions. Setting this up is a bit tricky, because it isn't supported by Fedora per default, but the patches available in Red Hat Bugzilla are great work. The NVIDIA driver comes from Livna, suspend to RAM and to disk works (even with the encrypted partitions) and they seem to be happy - at least for now ;-) Once we re-setup our workstations, Fedora will reach them as well, because from my point of view, Fedora is more made for workstations, desktop and development systems. The life cycle is just too short for systems needing update support without changing the base and core of a operating system such drastically as Fedora does. Bleeding edge is okay and needed, but for example our Enterprise Ressource Planning system doesn't like it to get the whole environment changed every 6 or 13 months. Note, that I never did guerilla marketing. I lived silently with the non- Fedora systems and in the end, CentOS really proved itself by fullfilling the needs, we weren't completely aware of. And when saying (or writing) that it proved itself, you've to mention, that such big decisions are made by my managers and not by me. Showing what a Fedora (or CentOS) is able to do the things was in our case the perfect way - of course it was helpful, that I've got knowledge of Fedora Packaging for the special things... Greetings, Robert

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FAMSCo Election 2007: Nominations Postponed
by Thomas Chung 05 Dec '07

05 Dec '07

All, Since we didn't have enough candidates, we're postponing nomination period until this Sunday, December 9. Once again, please nominate yourself or ask your fellow Ambassadors to nominate himself or herself by adding the candidacy in the following wiki page. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Election/2007No… Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung

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Calling for attendants of 2007-12-08 Shanghai CU salon
by Yuan Yijun 04 Dec '07

04 Dec '07

Hi, ChinaUnix.net (CU) is organizing some Linux events recently, and Shanghai CU salon is scheduled on 2007-12-08. Details here: http://linux.chinaunix.net/salon/200712/ This event is sponsored by Intel, and Shaofan Li from Intel OTC is going to give the first talk. After that, some one from Loongson will give another keynote. This event is free and open to anyone. AFAIK fedora contributors ZCMiao, LoneXin and AllenChen, maybe others, will take part in. BTW, There are 3 other cities where CU salon will be held at the same time: Beijing, Xi'an and Wuhan. After that, on 2007-12-09 SHLUG(Geekbone) may have another meeting. The meetings will be reported later at this place: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/zh_CN/Meetings/2007-12-08 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/zh_CN/Meetings/2007-12-09 A previous report regarding last month' meeting is here http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/zh_CN/Meetings/2007-11-24 -- bbbush ^_^

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FAD2007 meeting minutes
by Chitlesh GOORAH 03 Dec '07

03 Dec '07

Hello, Here's the meeting minutes of the FAD 23-25 November 2007: http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FAD/ (see the tarball) Highlights: * A legal European entity to be registered in Germany * Voted FUDCon at LinuxTag2008 * Voted Centos to be the project with which Fedora will share the FOSDEM devroom * Presence at various european events * FAMSCo candidates * swags and livecd media distribution throughout various events * more cooperation between Fedora ambassadors from various countries * Event box * Fedora Ambassador Meetings * status of Fedora European contributors with respect to their country. * Discussed how to improve Fedora participation during EMEA events * .... the list goes on. One year later when GeroldKassube initiated the first FAD, we have seen the number of FAD attendees doubled. During this last FAD, the attendees volunteered to take responsibilities to lead by example: e.g. * setting new gear to FAMSCo * relaunch online meeting * ... Everyone (FAD attendees) will agree with me that we have covered more discussions (fedora related) that we might have done on IRC. I now invite everyone to post a url where they have uploaded their photos:) regards, Chitlesh

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Self-Introduction: Konrad Moson
by Konrad Mosoń 02 Dec '07

02 Dec '07

Hi! I'm new Fedora Ambassador in Poland. I'm 15 years old, and I'm interesting Linux and classical music. I using Linux for 2 years and Fedora for 1 year. I hope that Fedora lives forever, i like it, and i get to promoting Fedora and Open Source. I used most of Linux distributions, but i think that Fedora is fast and best :) Fedora have good graphical and text-mode applications (like pirut, yum). I think that It's good for begginers and for geeks :) Regards to, Konrad Moson

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Nominations for FAmSCo election
by Francesco Ugolini 02 Dec '07

02 Dec '07

I want to remember all Fedora Ambassadors that today is the last day to present their nomination. I want also you to remember a part of the elections rule: "In order to hold an election a minimum number of candidates are necessary. This will be the number of open seats + 25%. If there are 7 seats available, there will need to be at least 9 candidates. If not enough candidates have signed up by the deadline, the election will be held back by one week for more candidates to be nominated. If there are still not enough candidates, the candidates who are present will be voted upon (or merely confirmed if there are less candidates than open seats.)" So actually the candidates are 5, and the total seats are 7 (and it implies that candidates must be 9). I invite everyone who want to nominate to make this today. If tomorrow the minimum number of candidate will not fill, the nomination period will be held back by one week. Best regards Francesco Ugolini

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REMINDER French Meeting today 1830 #fedora-meeting
by Thomas Canniot 02 Dec '07

02 Dec '07

This mail is a reminder for today´s meeting for French ambassadors and _every_ interested people. 2007-12-02 / 18:30 UTC IRC: freenode #fedora-meeting Ce mail est un rappel pour la réunion des ambassadeurs francophones, qui aura lieu ce dimanche (2 déc.) à 20h30 heure de Paris sur IRC (freenode) #fedora-meeting . L'ordre du jour est disponible depuis cette page : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/FrenchTeam/Reunions N'hésitez pas à la modifier pour rajouter des sujets qui vous semblent intéressants. Thomas Canniot

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