Dear Ambassadors,
right now some so called FOSS events appear with a target audience which is more focused for government agencies and bussines. To have Speakers at that events could be a great chance for Fedora to attract them for sponsoring or contribution. Here are some points i have made already in a discussion with a small group of people before. Francesco suggested to invite all Ambassadors to participate in this discussion.
There are several topics that we could place to attract government agencies and business, i am sure they will not know about that right now - and i hope that we find more here on that list - or like Francesco suggested collect in a WikiPage.
- Company & Inhouse Builds! - a company who build software as FOSS or modify FOSS for their own Enterprise Servers can use the benefit of Fedora Processes and Infrastructure as well as the wide spreading of our Distribution with contributing to Fedora + EPEL - this is good for the company and for Fedora. This could be enhanced by a technical Track, to show them how they can package and spread their Software within own Fedora Spins ...
- Community Consulting! - show them the brilliance of our technology with spacewalk, cobbler, func, puppet, FDS, KVM, FEL, our OLPC Success... Talk about the possibility that a Fedora Contributor teaches a company for a donation to the Fedora Project technicaly to see what the future will bring and to use that knowledge for their enterprise enviroments because this Enterprise Servers are build from our roots (or whatever) ...
- Build a FOSS Career! - show the government why they should support using and teaching of FOSS in educational institutions Show them success stories we have learned from Kushal or Chitlesh or Rodrigo or Paul - show the bussines why they should hire FOSS Contributors (peer certification, ...) - show the bussines why they should sponsor local FOSS Communities ... - show them how to become a FOSS Contributor inside Fedora. Imagine a government which decides that kids in school get teached leading edge software without licencing cost and with the possibility to enhance and change that. Imagine a Fedora Artwork Contest in all Schools of your Country
We can enrich Events with valuable content and give them real FOSS Partnership Spirit.
CU Joerg
2009/1/30 Joerg Simon jsimon@fedoraproject.org:
Dear Ambassadors,
right now some so called FOSS events appear with a target audience which is more focused for government agencies and bussines. To have Speakers at that events could be a great chance for Fedora to attract them for sponsoring or
First of all, a big thank goes to Joerg who is constantly paying attention to community processes, activities and problems.
I think those points are as interesting as important to start a wise discussion on Fedora and business related events partecipation. Let FAmSCo know what the community thinks about it, giving suggestion on Fedora and business (see Joerg post for what this means) and adding new amazing points to this great list.
It's really important a community participation to better focus our presence at events and giving all of us, as Ambassadors, usefull and well done tools.
This from my POV, now it your turn :)
Regards
Francesco Ugolini
Joerg Simon wrote:
Dear Ambassadors,
right now some so called FOSS events appear with a target audience which is more focused for government agencies and bussines. To have Speakers at that events could be a great chance for Fedora to attract them for sponsoring or contribution. Here are some points i have made already in a discussion with a small group of people before. Francesco suggested to invite all Ambassadors to participate in this discussion.
There are several topics that we could place to attract government agencies and business, i am sure they will not know about that right now - and i hope that we find more here on that list - or like Francesco suggested collect in a WikiPage.
- Company & Inhouse Builds! - a company who build software as FOSS or modify
FOSS for their own Enterprise Servers can use the benefit of Fedora Processes and Infrastructure as well as the wide spreading of our Distribution with contributing to Fedora + EPEL - this is good for the company and for Fedora. This could be enhanced by a technical Track, to show them how they can package and spread their Software within own Fedora Spins ...
This also goes to companies building (proprietary?) applications for commercial purposes, and stepping up to both maintaining the dependency stack for their application, as well as getting their dependencies packaged. Of course, this goes through Fedora, and would end up in EPEL for them and their customers to use on their Enterprise Linux systems.
Kind regards,
Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip
On Sunday 01 February 2009 18:14:52 Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
This also goes to companies building (proprietary?) applications for commercial purposes, and stepping up to both maintaining the dependency stack for their application, as well as getting their dependencies packaged. Of course, this goes through Fedora, and would end up in EPEL for them and their customers to use on their Enterprise Linux systems.
True, this could be a easier way for them!
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 08:46:26PM +0100, Joerg Simon wrote:
- Company & Inhouse Builds! - a company who build software as FOSS or modify
FOSS for their own Enterprise Servers can use the benefit of Fedora Processes and Infrastructure as well as the wide spreading of our Distribution with contributing to Fedora + EPEL - this is good for the company and for Fedora. This could be enhanced by a technical Track, to show them how they can package and spread their Software within own Fedora Spins ...
Last year we started a special interest group for independent software vendors (ISVs) interested in getting software in to Fedora:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ISV_SIG
(Please pass that around to any open source software companies you come in contact with. It's a group of people who understand the challenges that are unique to ISVs with open source-based products.)
What you are proposing sounds great, and in particular the 'Company Builds' is something I would like to help with. Perhaps we can imagine a class. It would cover ~4 hours and could be given by many Fedora Ambassadors:
* Introduction to the Fedora Way -- why we do things the way we do, how it really matters
* Overview of Fedora Packaging -- Packaging guidelines to koji, the entire process explained from a packager's point of view.
* Fedora Packaging, inside the RPM -- How to build an RPM from the spec file view; cf. Spot's recurring talk where he essentially walks through an extremely verbosely commented spec file.
* Next steps -- Walk through on finding resources (SIGs, using the wiki, getting a FAS account, finding a sponsor, etc.)
- Community Consulting! - show them the brilliance of our technology with
spacewalk, cobbler, func, puppet, FDS, KVM, FEL, our OLPC Success... Talk about the possibility that a Fedora Contributor teaches a company for a donation to the Fedora Project technicaly to see what the future will bring and to use that knowledge for their enterprise enviroments because this Enterprise Servers are build from our roots (or whatever) ...
I'd like to talk more about this. One of the roles that our group inside of Red Hat tries to do is similar to to this. We of course know that our small team does not scale very well :) I am working on codifying some of our means and methods, and a big portion of that could be worked on in collaboration with other community members.
Due to the complexity of the idea, such as a contributor teaching a company about Fedora and community in return for recompense to the Fedora Project, it has some challengs in figuring out the details. Let's start!
- Build a FOSS Career! - show the government why they should support using and
teaching of FOSS in educational institutions Show them success stories we have learned from Kushal or Chitlesh or Rodrigo or Paul - show the bussines why they should hire FOSS Contributors (peer certification, ...) - show the bussines why they should sponsor local FOSS Communities ... - show them how to become a FOSS Contributor inside Fedora. Imagine a government which decides that kids in school get teached leading edge software without licencing cost and with the possibility to enhance and change that. Imagine a Fedora Artwork Contest in all Schools of your Country
+1 for another good idea. :)
- Karsten
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