The F12 talking points have been released, and are ready for use (and improvement!) Many thanks to Steven Moix, Paul Frields, and Jon Roberts for their hard work.
Talking points (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Talking_points) are key features of the new release that we want to point out. There are different types of talking points for different types of people: users, developers, sysadmins, and more. They are meant to answer the question "so what cool stuff is in the latest release of Fedora?"
Reading the talking points should get someone who's *not* necessarily already a member of the Fedora community excited. (This is something that I think the talking points could still use some help with; which ones are unclear? Which ones don't get you as excited yet?) Please take a look at the talking points and think about how you'd like to use them for F12 outreach - and if you can think of a better way of phrasing something, or think something should be improved, please let us know (or use the wiki and just make the change yourself).
Ambassadors in particular: how can we turn these talking points into marketing materials that will help you spread the word?
--Mel
already using them to promote f12, thanks for the heads up!!
On 9/16/09, Mel Chua mel@redhat.com wrote:
The F12 talking points have been released, and are ready for use (and improvement!) Many thanks to Steven Moix, Paul Frields, and Jon Roberts for their hard work.
Talking points (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Talking_points) are key features of the new release that we want to point out. There are different types of talking points for different types of people: users, developers, sysadmins, and more. They are meant to answer the question "so what cool stuff is in the latest release of Fedora?"
Reading the talking points should get someone who's *not* necessarily already a member of the Fedora community excited. (This is something that I think the talking points could still use some help with; which ones are unclear? Which ones don't get you as excited yet?) Please take a look at the talking points and think about how you'd like to use them for F12 outreach - and if you can think of a better way of phrasing something, or think something should be improved, please let us know (or use the wiki and just make the change yourself).
Ambassadors in particular: how can we turn these talking points into marketing materials that will help you spread the word?
--Mel
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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 21:37:31 -0400 From: mel@redhat.com To: fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com; fedora-ambassadors-list@redhat.com CC: Subject: [Ambassadors] F12 talking points are out!
Hello Everyone,
Mel, thank you for your post. :)
The F12 talking points have been released, and are ready for use (and improvement!) Many thanks to Steven Moix, Paul Frields, and Jon Roberts for their hard work.
+1 on the work! :)
Talking points (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Talking_points) are key features of the new release that we want to point out. There are different types of talking points for different types of people: users, developers, sysadmins, and more. They are meant to answer the question "so what cool stuff is in the latest release of Fedora?"
Very cool indeed, I like the F12 talking points referenced there -
* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F12_talking_points
Reading the talking points should get someone who's *not* necessarily already a member of the Fedora community excited. (This is something that I think the talking points could still use some help with; which ones are unclear? Which ones don't get you as excited yet?) Please take a look at the talking points and think about how you'd like to use them for F12 outreach - and if you can think of a better way of phrasing something, or think something should be improved, please let us know (or use the wiki and just make the change yourself).
I'm reviewing the F12 talking points and will consider content to provide such as content from the following URLs and my F12 experience:
* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Alpha_release_notes * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Alpha_Announcement * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/12/FeatureList
Ambassadors in particular: how can we turn these talking points into marketing materials that will help you spread the word?
As referenced in the https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Insight URL -
I like the one page "Sketches" graphic of the https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/c/ce/FooBar.png
May be something like this for the F12 is in the works? :)
Lastly, in time, once the Fedora press material is that would be icing on the cake. :)
* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_press_material
--Mel
Please have a great day! :~)
Thank You
Sincerely
=-=-=-=-=
- David -
=-=-=-=-=
David Ramsey
=
Fedora Project's Japan & Maryland Ambassador dramsey@fedoraproject.org
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey
* Fedora 9 (Sulphur) kernel - vmlinuz-2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686
* Fedora 10 (Cambridge) kernel - vmlinuz-2.6.27.30-170.2.82.fc10.i686
* Fedora 11 (Leonidas) kernels - vmlinuz-2.6.30.5-43.fc11.i586 and vmlinuz-2.6.30.5-43.fc11.i686.PAE
* Fedora 12 (Constantine) kernels - vmlinuz-2.6.31-0.125.4.2.rc5.git2.fc12.i686 vmlinuz-2.6.31-0.167.4.2.rc6.git2.fc12.i686 vmlinuz-2.6.31-0.174.4.2.rc7.git2.fc12.i686 vmlinuz-2.6.31-0.190.rc8.fc12.i686 vmlinuz-2.6.31-0.204.rc9.fc12.i686 vmlinuz-2.6.31-2.fc12.i686 vmlinuz-2.6.31-12.fc12.i686 and vmlinuz-2.6.31-14.fc12.i686
With eight (8) x86_64 computing cores, 16 GB of RAM and SATA Seagate 7200.12 500 GB harddisk.
=
I like the one page "Sketches" graphic of the https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/c/ce/FooBar.png
May be something like this for the F12 is in the works? :)
Indeed - what you're seeing is the initial design sketch for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Insight, which will be launching around the same time Beta comes out. You can see the test version going up at https://publictest6.fedoraproject.org/zikula/ (warning: *very* rough! *very* much a test! *NOT DONE YET!*) and follow along on the http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/logistics/ mailing list if you are curious.
Lastly, in time, once the Fedora press material is that would be icing on the cake. :)
Yep! Thanks for the reminder - we will be working on press kits starting in a few weeks. Had to get the slogan and the talking points done first, though. ;)
(more feedback on talking points? how can we make these more useful to you? I would be particularly interested in what the "user" talking points sound like to a non-technical person - do they make sense? are they compelling?)
--Mel
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 22:58:46 -0400 From: mel@redhat.com To: fedora-ambassadors-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] F12 talking points are out!
Hello Mel,
Greetings. :)
Thanks for your posting update. :)
I like the one page "Sketches" graphic of the https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/c/ce/FooBar.png May be something like this for the F12 is in the works? :)
Indeed - what you're seeing is the initial design sketch for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Insight, which will be launching around the same time Beta comes out. You can see the test version going up at https://publictest6.fedoraproject.org/zikula/ (warning: *very* rough! *very* much a test! *NOT DONE YET!*) and follow along on the http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/logistics/ mailing list if you are curious.
Cool, URLs noted and tried them both out. Seems as you said, the https://publictest6.fedoraproject.org/zikula/ is a work in progress...I got the following error this weekend and today, when trying to access the URL -
"... Warning: Loader::require(includes/classes/Smarty/Smarty.class.php) [function.Loader-require]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /usr/share/zikula/includes/Loader.class.php on line 326
Fatal error: Loader::require() [function.require]: Failed opening required 'includes/classes/Smarty/Smarty.class.php' (include_path='.:/usr/share/pear:/usr/share/php') in /usr/share/zikula/includes/Loader.class.php on line 326 ..."
I'll try that URL again later on. :)
Lastly, in time, once the Fedora press material is that would be icing on the cake. :)
Yep! Thanks for the reminder - we will be working on press kits starting in a few weeks. Had to get the slogan and the talking points done first, though. ;)
Cool, when those appear, then please send a yo ho and I would like to look and see this. :)
(more feedback on talking points?
What I think / thought was cool stuff in the latest release of Fedora...Dracut, GRUB with ext4, and IPV6.
I read about the Dracut product and I have been trying that out. At this time, I am not very impressed with Dracut. After conducting about eight or so kernel updates on my variety of systems, Dracut is slow about 20+ minutes in order to invoke the kernel update. Afterward, doing kernel updates, I receive the ABRT indicating I had a kernel failure...sort of a false negative if you can see my mind. So I am sort of actually happy that Dracut is not in the list. :)
As a future RHEL6 system administrator, an important aspect to be aware of in F12 is IPV6 support as well as GRUB with ext4. :)
how can we make these more useful to you?
If I was not familiar with a talking point, then "help me" to be able to convey the content. The use of effective presentations which have been done in either video/sound and/or podcast will help will doing the presentation of material which I may not have first hand experience on. My thought is if others have presented or created content on this, then give me a URL to review so I may integrate their content into my "speech." :)
I would be particularly interested in what the "user" talking points sound like to a non-technical person - do they make sense?
I think that for both a user as well as a system administrator, the XZ payload content using the LZMA format, is right on the money. :)
In the user section for PackageKit, does not do it for me as a user. I am not excited by the content. The PackageKit content is a little beyond my technical understanding as a user. I think that as a system administrator, that would be good stuff to read. :)
are they compelling?)
The NetworkManager and video content hit the points. :)
Also, the libguestfs and virtualization content are well understood by me. :)
As a talking points reference of main points, the content is there. :v)
Mel, I guess samples of the main F12 talking points which is useful for doing my presentation. I will practice with the current "F12 talking points" content and always make sure that additional F12 information is available as a reference. :v)
Please have a great day! :~)
Thank You Sincerely =-=-=-=-= - David - =-=-=-=-= David Ramsey =
Fedora Project's Japan & Maryland Ambassador dramsey@fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey * Fedora 9 (Sulphur) kernel - vmlinuz-2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 * Fedora 10 (Cambridge) kernel - vmlinuz-2.6.27.30-170.2.82.fc10.i686 * Fedora 11 (Leonidas) kernels - vmlinuz-2.6.30.5-43.fc11.i586 and vmlinuz-2.6.30.5-43.fc11.i686.PAE
* Fedora 12 (Constantine) kernels - vmlinuz-2.6.31-0.125.4.2.rc5.git2.fc12.i686 vmlinuz-2.6.31-0.190.rc8.fc12.i686 vmlinuz-2.6.31-14.fc12.i686 and vmlinuz-2.6.31-14.fc12.i686.PAE With eight (8) x86_64 computing cores, 16 GB of RAM and SATA Seagate 7200.12 500 GB harddisk. =
--Mel
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Hello Everyone,
Greetings. :)
Was reviewing the FedoraForum.org - http://fedoraforum.org/index.php
Saw an entry for Fedora Weekly News Issue 215 - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue215
* http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue215
Good read for our Fedora Weekly News. :)
Please have a great day! :~)
Thank You Sincerely =-=-=-=-= - David - =-=-=-=-= David Ramsey --------------------------------- 十人十色 じゅうにんといろ 10 people 10 colors Different strokes for different folks --------------------------------- = Fedora Project's Japan & Maryland Ambassador dramsey@fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey * Two (2) dual core systems with 3.0 GB of RAM running the Fedora 12 (Constantine) kernel - 2.6.32.9-67.fc12.i686.PAE * Two (2) dual core systems with 3.0 GB of RAM running the Fedora 13 (Goddard) kernel - 2.6.33-4.fc13.i686.PAE With eight (8) x86_64 computing cores, 16 GB of RAM and two SATA Seagate 7200.12 500 GB harddisks. =
Hi David,
2010/3/3 David Ramsey diamond_ramsey@hotmail.com:
Hello Everyone,
Greetings. :)
Was reviewing the FedoraForum.org - http://fedoraforum.org/index.php
Saw an entry for Fedora Weekly News Issue 215 - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue215
The FWN is announced on the announce@ mailing list, to which every ambassador should IMHO be already subscribed.
In case you aren't already, go subscribe now. It's very low traffic and only speaks about important announcements like the FWN. :) https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/announce
Best regards,
---------- Mathieu Bridon
Hello Everyone,
Greetings. :)
Mathieu, thank you for your e-mail. :)
Was reviewing the FedoraForum.org - http://fedoraforum.org/index.php
Saw an entry for Fedora Weekly News Issue 215 - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue215
The FWN is announced on the announce@ mailing list, to which every ambassador should IMHO be already subscribed.
+1, very true indeed. Thanks for the idea. :)
In case you aren't already, go subscribe now. It's very low traffic and only speaks about important announcements like the FWN. :) https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/announce
Yes, especially with all the new Fedora happenings, it is good to see how things are going and news about Fedora. :)
Sending positive Fedora 12 and 13 energy from my computer to yours. :v)
Please have a great day and/or evening! :~)
Thank You Sincerely =-=-=-=-= - David - =-=-=-=-= David Ramsey --------------------------------- 十人十色 じゅうにんといろ 10 people 10 colors Different strokes for different folks = Fedora Project's Japan & Maryland Ambassador dramsey@fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey * Two (2) dual core systems with 3.0 GB of RAM running the Fedora 12 (Constantine) kernel - 2.6.32.9-70.fc12.i686.PAE * Two (2) dual core systems with 3.0 GB of RAM running the Fedora 13 (Goddard) kernel - 2.6.33-4.fc13.i686.PAE With eight (8) x86_64 computing cores, 16 GB of RAM and two SATA Seagate 7200.12 500 GB harddisks. =
Hello Everyone,
Greetings. :)
===========================================
FYI, if you have any good information for the "Linux Events" then update the wiki -
"...This page needs some love This page should be revised or reconstructed to better suit the needs of Fedora..."
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxEvents
I think that this "Linux Events" wiki is for major events, which seem to get referenced in the Fedora Weekly News, for example https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue216#Additional_information :)
===========================================
Especially with all the new major Fedora events/happenings. Would be good to see these things in the news about Fedora. :)
Sending positive Fedora 12 and 13 energy from my computer to yours. :v)
Please have a great day and/or evening! :~)
Thank You Sincerely =-=-=-=-= - David - =-=-=-=-= David Ramsey --------------------------------- 十人十色 じゅうにんといろ 10 people 10 colors Different strokes for different folks = Fedora Project's Japan & Maryland Ambassador dramsey@fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey * Two (2) dual core systems with 3.0 GB of RAM running the Fedora 12 (Constantine) kernel - 2.6.32.9-70.fc12.i686.PAE * Two (2) dual core systems with 3.0 GB of RAM running the Fedora 13 (Goddard) kernel - 2.6.33-8.fc13.i686.PAE With eight (8) x86_64 computing cores, 16 GB of RAM and two SATA Seagate 7200.12 500 GB harddisks. =
Hello Everyone,
Greetings. :)
Question on which size Live USB Keys is used by Ambassadors. :)
===========================================
For example, if you have or have used Live USB Keys at an distribution, event or whatever, then which size USB Key is "minimum" for doing the Live Fedora system? :)
Any ideas are greatly appreciated for planning purposes. :)
===========================================
Sending positive Fedora 12 and 13 energy from my computer to yours. :v)
Please have a great day and/or evening! :~)
Thank You Sincerely =-=-=-=-= - David - =-=-=-=-= David Ramsey --------------------------------- 十人十色 じゅうにんといろ 10 people 10 colors Different strokes for different folks = Fedora Project's Japan & Maryland Ambassador dramsey@fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey * Two (2) dual core systems with 3.0 GB of RAM running the Fedora 12 (Constantine) kernel - 2.6.32.9-70.fc12.i686.PAE * Two (2) dual core systems with 3.0 GB of RAM running the Fedora 13 (Goddard) kernel - 2.6.33-8.fc13.i686.PAE With eight (8) x86_64 computing cores, 16 GB of RAM and two SATA Seagate 7200.12 500 GB harddisks.
=
I have used 1G but found it better to work with 2G
On Wed, 2010-03-10 at 20:31 -0500, David Ramsey wrote:
Hello Everyone,
Greetings. :)
Question on which size Live USB Keys is used by Ambassadors. :)
===========================================
For example, if you have or have used Live USB Keys at an distribution, event or whatever, then which size USB Key is "minimum" for doing the Live Fedora system? :)
Any ideas are greatly appreciated for planning purposes. :)
===========================================
Sending positive Fedora 12 and 13 energy from my computer to yours. :v)
Please have a great day and/or evening! :~)
Thank You Sincerely =-=-=-=-=
- David -
=-=-=-=-= David Ramsey
十人十色 じゅうにんといろ 10 people 10 colors Different strokes for different folks = Fedora Project's Japan & Maryland Ambassador dramsey@fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey
- Two (2) dual core systems with 3.0 GB of RAM running the Fedora 12
(Constantine) kernel - 2.6.32.9-70.fc12.i686.PAE
- Two (2) dual core systems with 3.0 GB of RAM running the Fedora 13
(Goddard) kernel - 2.6.33-8.fc13.i686.PAE With eight (8) x86_64 computing cores, 16 GB of RAM and two SATA Seagate 7200.12 500 GB harddisks. =
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Better you have 2G. And you could bring your presentation stuff too.
Zoltan
2010/3/11 Alejandro Perez aeperezt@hotmail.com
I have used 1G but found it better to work with 2G
On Wed, 2010-03-10 at 20:31 -0500, David Ramsey wrote:
Hello Everyone,
Greetings. :)
Question on which size Live USB Keys is used by Ambassadors. :)
===========================================
For example, if you have or have used Live USB Keys at an distribution, event or whatever, then which size USB Key is "minimum" for doing the Live Fedora system? :)
Any ideas are greatly appreciated for planning purposes. :)
===========================================
Sending positive Fedora 12 and 13 energy from my computer to yours. :v)
Please have a great day and/or evening! :~)
Thank You Sincerely =-=-=-=-=
- David -
=-=-=-=-= David Ramsey
十人十色 じゅうにんといろ 10 people 10 colors Different strokes for different folks = Fedora Project's Japan & Maryland Ambassador dramsey@fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey
- Two (2) dual core systems with 3.0 GB of RAM running the Fedora 12
(Constantine) kernel - 2.6.32.9-70.fc12.i686.PAE
- Two (2) dual core systems with 3.0 GB of RAM running the Fedora 13
(Goddard) kernel - 2.6.33-8.fc13.i686.PAE With eight (8) x86_64 computing cores, 16 GB of RAM and two SATA Seagate 7200.12 500 GB harddisks. =
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Hello all, I guess that minimum is 1GB,but It is better using a usb flash drive with 2-4 GBs
Hi David,
2010/3/11 David Ramsey diamond_ramsey@hotmail.com:
For example, if you have or have used Live USB Keys at an distribution, event or whatever, then which size USB Key is "minimum" for doing the Live Fedora system? :)
I'd say the absolute minimum is the size of the live image, i.e. the size of a CD.
However, it depends on what you plan to do with those USB keys.
For example, if you want to add a persistent layer or a /home partition, then you will need more space.
So there's not really a definite answer for your question, unless you accept "it depends" :)
FWIW, we produced Fedora branded USB sticks here in France. We chose 2GB ones, as they are a good compromise between price and what is possible with the size.
Best regards,
---------- Mathieu Bridon
True. But it seems 1G is not much, but everybody accept the fact that 2G is totally enough for begin. Over 2G is just your imagenetion is the limit. So, again.
Summary: 2 Gigs for general use.
Z
2010/3/11 Mathieu Bridon bochecha@fedoraproject.org
Hi David,
2010/3/11 David Ramsey diamond_ramsey@hotmail.com:
For example, if you have or have used Live USB Keys at an distribution, event or whatever, then which size USB Key is "minimum" for doing the Live Fedora system? :)
I'd say the absolute minimum is the size of the live image, i.e. the size of a CD.
However, it depends on what you plan to do with those USB keys.
For example, if you want to add a persistent layer or a /home partition, then you will need more space.
So there's not really a definite answer for your question, unless you accept "it depends" :)
FWIW, we produced Fedora branded USB sticks here in France. We chose 2GB ones, as they are a good compromise between price and what is possible with the size.
Best regards,
Mathieu Bridon
ambassadors mailing list ambassadors@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/ambassadors
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 09:38:40AM +0100, Mathieu Bridon wrote:
Hi David,
2010/3/11 David Ramsey diamond_ramsey@hotmail.com:
For example, if you have or have used Live USB Keys at an distribution, event or whatever, then which size USB Key is "minimum" for doing the Live Fedora system? :)
I'd say the absolute minimum is the size of the live image, i.e. the size of a CD.
[...snip...]
Note that the Fedora Desktop Live image, our default offering, now targets a 1 GB size so it must be burned to either a recordable DVD or a USB stick. Release notes for F13 Beta and beyond now reflect this:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_Live_Image_Beat
Media production budgeting should take this into account, but as for USB sticks, 1 GB is about the smallest you'll find nowadays. The cost differences I've seen between 1 GB and 2 GB are negligible, and 2 GB gives you better options for persistent storage of /home and an overlay.
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 15:45, Paul W. Frields stickster@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 09:38:40AM +0100, Mathieu Bridon wrote:
Hi David,
2010/3/11 David Ramsey diamond_ramsey@hotmail.com:
For example, if you have or have used Live USB Keys at an distribution, event or whatever, then which size USB Key is "minimum" for doing the Live Fedora system? :)
I'd say the absolute minimum is the size of the live image, i.e. the size of a CD.
[...snip...]
Note that the Fedora Desktop Live image, our default offering, now targets a 1 GB size so it must be burned to either a recordable DVD or a USB stick. Release notes for F13 Beta and beyond now reflect this:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_Live_Image_Beat
Right, I had forgotten this point.
Thanks for reminding me that we will have more trouble producing the media, it's better not to be surprised when the time comes :)
---------- Mathieu Bridon
Hello Everyone,
Greetings. :)
Thank you for your posts. :)
Note that the Fedora Desktop Live image, our default offering, now targets a 1 GB size so it must be burned to either a recordable DVD or a USB stick. Release notes for F13 Beta and beyond now reflect this:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_Live_Image_Beat
Cool! :)
Thanks for reminding me that we will have more trouble producing the
media, it's better not to be surprised when the time comes :)
+1, very true indeed, I am planning how to effectively provide my Fedora 13 release and wanted information and references for the USB Key as an option to use. Right now, I suggest bring me a USB and I will load the content for you. :)
Don't know what happened with my previous posts getting double spaced...working on another computer now. :v)
Please have a great day and an enjoyable weekend! :~)
Thank You Sincerely =-=-=-=-= - David - =-=-=-=-= David Ramsey --------------------------------- 猿も木から落ちる さるもきからおちる Even monkeys fall from trees. Even experts make mistakes. = Fedora Project's Japan & Maryland Ambassador dramsey@fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey * Two (2) dual core systems with 3.0 GB of RAM running the Fedora 12 (Constantine) kernel - 2.6.32.9-70.fc12.i686.PAE * Two (2) dual core systems with 3.0 GB of RAM running the Fedora 13 (Goddard) kernel - 2.6.33-8.fc13.i686.PAE With eight (8) x86_64 computing cores, 16 GB of RAM and two SATA Seagate 7200.12 500 GB harddisks. =
What about people only having a CD-rom-drive?
// Kris
2010/3/13 David Ramsey diamond_ramsey@hotmail.com:
Hello Everyone,
Greetings. :)
Thank you for your posts. :)
Note that the Fedora Desktop Live image, our default offering, now targets a 1 GB size so it must be burned to either a recordable DVD or a USB stick. Release notes for F13 Beta and beyond now reflect this:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_Live_Image_Beat
Cool! :)
Thanks for reminding me that we will have more trouble producing the
media, it's better not to be surprised when the time comes :)
+1, very true indeed, I am planning how to effectively provide my Fedora 13 release and wanted information and references for the USB Key as an option to use. Right now, I suggest bring me a USB and I will load the content for you. :)
Don't know what happened with my previous posts getting double spaced...working on another computer now. :v)
Please have a great day and an enjoyable weekend! :~)
Thank You Sincerely =-=-=-=-=
- David -
=-=-=-=-= David Ramsey
猿も木から落ちる さるもきからおちる Even monkeys fall from trees. Even experts make mistakes. = Fedora Project's Japan & Maryland Ambassador dramsey@fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey
- Two (2) dual core systems with 3.0 GB of RAM running the Fedora 12 (Constantine) kernel - 2.6.32.9-70.fc12.i686.PAE
- Two (2) dual core systems with 3.0 GB of RAM running the Fedora 13 (Goddard) kernel - 2.6.33-8.fc13.i686.PAE
With eight (8) x86_64 computing cores, 16 GB of RAM and two SATA Seagate 7200.12 500 GB harddisks. =
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Hello Everyone,
Greetings. :)
Kris, thank you for your post. :)
What about people only having a CD-rom-drive?
Good question, that is one of my options for people, too. :)
====================================
How to create and use a Live CD -
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_and_use_a_Live_CD
====================================
Hope this helps. :v)
Please have a great day and/or evening! :~)
Thank You Sincerely =-=-=-=-= - David - =-=-=-=-= David Ramsey --------------------------------- 一石二鳥 いっせきにちょう One stone; two birds. To kill 2 birds with 1 stone. = Fedora Project's Japan & Maryland Ambassador dramsey@fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey * Two (2) dual core systems with 3.0 GB of RAM running the Fedora 12 (Constantine) kernel - 2.6.32.9-70.fc12.i686.PAE * Two (2) dual core systems with 3.0 GB of RAM running the Fedora 13 (Goddard) kernel - 2.6.33-8.fc13.i686.PAE With eight (8) x86_64 computing cores, 16 GB of RAM and two SATA Seagate 7200.12 500 GB harddisks. =
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 9:19 PM, David Ramsey diamond_ramsey@hotmail.com wrote:
Hello Everyone,
Greetings. :)
Kris, thank you for your post. :)
What about people only having a CD-rom-drive?
Good question, that is one of my options for people, too. :)
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How to create and use a Live CD -
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_and_use_a_Live_CD
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Hope this helps. :v)
I am not sure if this suggestion is for ambassadors to create a custom Gnome LiveCD that will fit on a CD or if to give the idea for telling people to go and create their media on their own?
I have to install Gnome in a PC without a DVD tray, I would try install from a XFCE spin and then install Gnome. For that matter you can go also with net-install or any other of the spins that still are CD-size.
Neville, That would be possible, yes. But not a great way to treat a new user if he/she have to install it all on their own :)
// Kris
2010/3/15 Neville A. Cross nacross@gmail.com:
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 9:19 PM, David Ramsey diamond_ramsey@hotmail.com wrote:
Hello Everyone,
Greetings. :)
Kris, thank you for your post. :)
What about people only having a CD-rom-drive?
Good question, that is one of my options for people, too. :)
====================================
How to create and use a Live CD -
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_and_use_a_Live_CD
====================================
Hope this helps. :v)
I am not sure if this suggestion is for ambassadors to create a custom Gnome LiveCD that will fit on a CD or if to give the idea for telling people to go and create their media on their own?
I have to install Gnome in a PC without a DVD tray, I would try install from a XFCE spin and then install Gnome. For that matter you can go also with net-install or any other of the spins that still are CD-size.
-- Neville https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v Linux User # 473217 -- ambassadors mailing list ambassadors@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/ambassadors
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 8:25 AM, Kris Thomsen lakristho@gmail.com wrote:
Neville, That would be possible, yes. But not a great way to treat a new user if he/she have to install it all on their own :)
// Kris
Well you can not please every body.
Which will be the sub-set of users that have a computer that is capable to deliver a good user experience and do not have a DVD tray or will not boot from USB, so you really need a CD ? I think that system will need to look for a lot a fine tuning to run acceptable and probably will look for a smaller desktop environment anyway.
How do you move forward if you are not able to let it go some backward features? It is not nice, not ideal, but we need to deal with those issues.
I sure can follow you in your thoughts. And maybe I'm just a bit ol'school ;) Let's try it.
// Kris
2010/3/15 Neville A. Cross nacross@gmail.com:
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 8:25 AM, Kris Thomsen lakristho@gmail.com wrote:
Neville, That would be possible, yes. But not a great way to treat a new user if he/she have to install it all on their own :)
// Kris
Well you can not please every body.
Which will be the sub-set of users that have a computer that is capable to deliver a good user experience and do not have a DVD tray or will not boot from USB, so you really need a CD ? I think that system will need to look for a lot a fine tuning to run acceptable and probably will look for a smaller desktop environment anyway.
How do you move forward if you are not able to let it go some backward features? It is not nice, not ideal, but we need to deal with those issues.
-- Neville https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v Linux User # 473217
Check: http://www.clickmanagua.com
-- ambassadors mailing list ambassadors@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/ambassadors
I have a better idea. All you need is use boot.fedoraproject.org ISO. This little thig uses gpxe, and you could trigger the installer through net. And you install wahtever you want, I think.
Just my 1 cent. :)
Zoltan
2010/3/15 Kris Thomsen lakristho@gmail.com
I sure can follow you in your thoughts. And maybe I'm just a bit ol'school ;) Let's try it.
// Kris
2010/3/15 Neville A. Cross nacross@gmail.com:
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 8:25 AM, Kris Thomsen lakristho@gmail.com
wrote:
Neville, That would be possible, yes. But not a great way to treat a new user if he/she have to install it all on their own :)
// Kris
Well you can not please every body.
Which will be the sub-set of users that have a computer that is capable to deliver a good user experience and do not have a DVD tray or will not boot from USB, so you really need a CD ? I think that system will need to look for a lot a fine tuning to run acceptable and probably will look for a smaller desktop environment anyway.
How do you move forward if you are not able to let it go some backward features? It is not nice, not ideal, but we need to deal with those issues.
-- Neville https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v Linux User # 473217
Check: http://www.clickmanagua.com
-- ambassadors mailing list ambassadors@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/ambassadors
-- ambassadors mailing list ambassadors@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/ambassadors
2010/3/15 Zoltan Hoppar hopparz@gmail.com:
I have a better idea. All you need is use boot.fedoraproject.org ISO. This little thig uses gpxe, and you could trigger the installer through net. And you install wahtever you want, I think.
When at an event, you often don't have a sufficient bandwidth for that. And if you do, it might not be very nice for the owners of the place if you downloaded that much data.
That's why we have a PXE server mirroring the Fedora (and Debian, Ubuntu, Mandriva and OpenSUSE) mirrors here in Paris.
---------- Mathieu Bridon
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 6:11 AM, Mathieu Bridon bochecha@fedoraproject.org wrote:
2010/3/15 Zoltan Hoppar hopparz@gmail.com:
I have a better idea. All you need is use boot.fedoraproject.org ISO. This little thig uses gpxe, and you could trigger the installer through net. And you install wahtever you want, I think.
When at an event, you often don't have a sufficient bandwidth for that. And if you do, it might not be very nice for the owners of the place if you downloaded that much data.
That's why we have a PXE server mirroring the Fedora (and Debian, Ubuntu, Mandriva and OpenSUSE) mirrors here in Paris.
I have created a private repo in a computer. At install-fest we have everything local, what means that we can work even if there is no internet.
Do you have an writing about this process? Mirroring to an local repo? How goes this?
2010/3/16 Neville A. Cross nacross@gmail.com
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 6:11 AM, Mathieu Bridon bochecha@fedoraproject.org wrote:
2010/3/15 Zoltan Hoppar hopparz@gmail.com:
I have a better idea. All you need is use boot.fedoraproject.org ISO.
This
little thig uses gpxe, and you could trigger the installer through net.
And
you install wahtever you want, I think.
When at an event, you often don't have a sufficient bandwidth for that. And if you do, it might not be very nice for the owners of the place if you downloaded that much data.
That's why we have a PXE server mirroring the Fedora (and Debian, Ubuntu, Mandriva and OpenSUSE) mirrors here in Paris.
I have created a private repo in a computer. At install-fest we have everything local, what means that we can work even if there is no internet.
-- Neville https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v Linux User # 473217
Check: http://www.clickmanagua.com
-- ambassadors mailing list ambassadors@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/ambassadors
2010/3/16 Zoltan Hoppar hopparz@gmail.com:
Do you have an writing about this process? Mirroring to an local repo? How goes this?
I did not find the original that I use, but this looks fine no matter it is old.
http://sulug.sun.ac.za/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/Distributions/Fedora
I help a bit for the Spanish Version.
http://proyectofedora.org/wiki/YUM_Creando_repositorio_espejo_Livna
1G is Ok, but my suggestion to use 2G. --
2010/3/11 David Ramsey diamond_ramsey@hotmail.com:
Hello Everyone,
Greetings. :)
Question on which size Live USB Keys is used by Ambassadors. :)
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For example, if you have or have used Live USB Keys at an distribution, event or whatever, then which size USB Key is "minimum" for doing the Live Fedora system? :)
Any ideas are greatly appreciated for planning purposes. :)
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Sending positive Fedora 12 and 13 energy from my computer to yours. :v)
Please have a great day and/or evening! :~)
Thank You Sincerely =-=-=-=-=
- David -
=-=-=-=-= David Ramsey
十人十色 じゅうにんといろ 10 people 10 colors Different strokes for different folks = Fedora Project's Japan & Maryland Ambassador dramsey@fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey
- Two (2) dual core systems with 3.0 GB of RAM running the Fedora 12
(Constantine) kernel - 2.6.32.9-70.fc12.i686.PAE
- Two (2) dual core systems with 3.0 GB of RAM running the Fedora 13
(Goddard) kernel - 2.6.33-8.fc13.i686.PAE With eight (8) x86_64 computing cores, 16 GB of RAM and two SATA Seagate 7200.12 500 GB harddisks. =
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