Hello Folks,
In May the F18, FAmSCo term has started which I was a member. Now it is almost 4 months has gone and around 2 months to go for the release F18.
There was two goals[1] at the beginning, one was to improve the SWAG production and distribution with in the APAC region and the next was to facilitate and represent fellow FAms in much efficient way. (donno what you think )
I do believe that I will providing better representation and facilitating for the FAms from APAC.
However I am still working on the first goal which is hard to achieve, but I ll be doing my best.
The plan I have came with so far is as follows.
Currently there are 18 countries with in the APAC region.
Australia Bangladesh China Hong Kong India Indonesia Japan Malaysia Myanmar Nepal New Zealand Pakistan Philippines Singapore Sri Lanka Taiwan Thailand Vietnam (excluding following countries since they are almost dealing with EMEA Cyprus, Jordan, Saudi Arabia)
With in the region there are diversity of the tax and shipping overheads therefore “Distributing through a central point” is not the best strategy for APAC. However my plan is to produce SWAGs in bulk and distribute them in a central point which is the FUDCon in the region holding yearly. Since most of the FAms from most of the countries in the region, are participating I think that would be feasible. So once a year SWAGs (such as stickers, buttons, straps ….) will be produced and distributed via the FUDCon.
In APAC the scenario is totally different than NA or EMEA since the countries are largely seperated geographically. Therefore local production would be the best possible alternative. However FUDCon is used as the central point as all the FAms are gathering yearly.
It is better to produce media themselves locally. I think that would be the best possible way to address the tax and shipping costs. In such case it is possible to open a ticket on the fedora-apac trac[2] and move for the production. Since the revised “Reimbursement Guideline” is in effective[3] there would not be much difficulties.
Comments and suggestions are welcome.
Planning for the next SWAG production will start soon.
[1] http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2012-July/019928.html
[2] https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/APAC/Reimbursement
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 1:56 AM, Buddhike Kurera bckurera@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Hello Folks,
In May the F18, FAmSCo term has started which I was a member. Now it is almost 4 months has gone and around 2 months to go for the release F18.
There was two goals[1] at the beginning, one was to improve the SWAG production and distribution with in the APAC region and the next was to facilitate and represent fellow FAms in much efficient way. (donno what you think )
I do believe that I will providing better representation and facilitating for the FAms from APAC.
You know that we're always grateful for that bckurera. Even though we don't say that often enough, we are :)
However I am still working on the first goal which is hard to achieve, but I ll be doing my best.
The plan I have came with so far is as follows.
Currently there are 18 countries with in the APAC region.
Australia Bangladesh China Hong Kong India Indonesia Japan Malaysia Myanmar Nepal New Zealand Pakistan Philippines Singapore Sri Lanka Taiwan Thailand Vietnam (excluding following countries since they are almost dealing with EMEA Cyprus, Jordan, Saudi Arabia)
With in the region there are diversity of the tax and shipping overheads therefore “Distributing through a central point” is not the best strategy for APAC.
I still believe this is one problem we can manage if we agree amongst ourselves to actually to do it. Taxes and shipping costs are facts of life and we'll be greatly limiting ourselves by dismissing that course of action. For sure, other regions deal with other challenges (not tax and shipping) but they started with one thing - they agreed to do it and put all efforts to refine their operations into what they have now.
However my plan is to produce SWAGs in bulk and distribute them in a central point which is the FUDCon in the region holding yearly. Since most of the FAms from most of the countries in the region, are participating I think that would be feasible. So once a year SWAGs (such as stickers, buttons, straps ….) will be produced and distributed via the FUDCon.
This should be a nice start. Following this train of thought, FUDCon hosts will produce the swag. Or am I wrong?
In APAC the scenario is totally different than NA or EMEA since the countries are largely seperated geographically. Therefore local production would be the best possible alternative. However FUDCon is used as the central point as all the FAms are gathering yearly.
This seems practical for me.
It is better to produce media themselves locally. I think that would be the best possible way to address the tax and shipping costs. In such case it is possible to open a ticket on the fedora-apac trac[2] and move for the production. Since the revised “Reimbursement Guideline” is in effective[3] there would not be much difficulties.
This is what we're doing for a long time now and i won't argue that it just works. However, I'd like us to push the envelope and dream big. Costs will always be there, it's up to us to manage it to acceptable levels against intended return value.
Comments and suggestions are welcome.
Planning for the next SWAG production will start soon.
[1] http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2012-July/019928.html
[2] https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/APAC/Reimbursement
-- Regards, Buddhike Chandradeepa Kurera (bckurera)
Email: bckurera@fedoraproject.org | IRC: bckurera | User: Bckurera
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Found this on the wiki while looking for ways how Fedora dealt with customs in the past - https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/9/91/Fedora-media-customs-letter-2010-11...
Have there been updates to this document? Did governments honored it?
--herson
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 12:31 AM, Heherson Pagcaliwagan herson@azneita.org wrote:
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 1:56 AM, Buddhike Kurera bckurera@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Hello Folks,
In May the F18, FAmSCo term has started which I was a member. Now it is almost 4 months has gone and around 2 months to go for the release F18.
There was two goals[1] at the beginning, one was to improve the SWAG production and distribution with in the APAC region and the next was to facilitate and represent fellow FAms in much efficient way. (donno what you think )
I do believe that I will providing better representation and facilitating for the FAms from APAC.
You know that we're always grateful for that bckurera. Even though we don't say that often enough, we are :)
Thanks :)
However my plan is to produce SWAGs in bulk and distribute them in a central point which is the FUDCon in the region holding yearly. Since most of the FAms from most of the countries in the region, are participating I think that would be feasible. So once a year SWAGs (such as stickers, buttons, straps ….) will be produced and distributed via the FUDCon.
This should be a nice start. Following this train of thought, FUDCon hosts will produce the swag. Or am I wrong?
Lowest price is the best. Not the organizers always. If something is cheaper in specific country and if someone is participating from that country we can ask him to bring them. However I ll start a discussion for that soon to determine the prices, qty required per year and the cost per production. We can discuss at the meeting where the lowest cost.
Step by step process . . .
The customer letter is not worthy in Sri Lanka according to the tax claim regulation we need to have a organization (non-profit) to claim it. But there are some situations where we can get some discount but not always, it depends on.
Hello Everyone,
Buddhike and Herherson, thank you for your e-mails. :)
Great ideas for discussion. :)
Take Care Sincerely, - David -
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 09:36:24 +0200 From: bckurera@fedoraproject.org To: ambassadors@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Effective SWAG distribution/ management with in APAC
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 12:31 AM, Heherson Pagcaliwagan herson@azneita.org wrote:
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 1:56 AM, Buddhike Kurera bckurera@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Hello Folks,
In May the F18, FAmSCo term has started which I was a member. Now it is almost 4 months has gone and around 2 months to go for the release F18.
There was two goals[1] at the beginning, one was to improve the SWAG production and distribution with in the APAC region and the next was to facilitate and represent fellow FAms in much efficient way. (donno what you think )
I do believe that I will providing better representation and facilitating for the FAms from APAC.
You know that we're always grateful for that bckurera. Even though we don't say that often enough, we are :)
Thanks :)
However my plan is to produce SWAGs in bulk and distribute them in a central point which is the FUDCon in the region holding yearly. Since most of the FAms from most of the countries in the region, are participating I think that would be feasible. So once a year SWAGs (such as stickers, buttons, straps ….) will be produced and distributed via the FUDCon.
This should be a nice start. Following this train of thought, FUDCon hosts will produce the swag. Or am I wrong?
Lowest price is the best. Not the organizers always. If something is cheaper in specific country and if someone is participating from that country we can ask him to bring them. However I ll start a discussion for that soon to determine the prices, qty required per year and the cost per production. We can discuss at the meeting where the lowest cost.
Step by step process . . .
The customer letter is not worthy in Sri Lanka according to the tax claim regulation we need to have a organization (non-profit) to claim it. But there are some situations where we can get some discount but not always, it depends on.
-- Regards, Buddhike Chandradeepa Kurera (bckurera) -- ambassadors mailing list ambassadors@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/ambassadors
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