Hi all,
In our previous APAC ambassadors meeting we were discussing about this idea[1].
Generally the final/pre-final year engineering students need to do some project work on a topic. What I personally saw that they desperately search for one.
we can make a lot of new contributors if we provide them with a project to work, some guidence and may be a certificate at the end. (As they say, target this segment :))
This way we can make much more widespread effect as the student partners themselves will spread Fedora within their peers and their college.
Also we may talk about officially tie-up with some colleges.
The basic idea is here[2].
Now the question id if this is worth taking up. If yes, lets refine it here.
[1]https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2008-June/msg00241.h... [2]http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora-Student_Mentor_Programme
Our campus has this thing called Corporate Scholars program where they will do their senior project based on the Corporation actual project. They will be given specifications and so on. I guess this would be a good way if Red Hat would like to sponsor.
www.calstatela.edu
Let me know anytime because I know the person who's in charge about these stuff..
- Grady
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 7:44 PM, susmit shannigrahi < thinklinux.ssh@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
In our previous APAC ambassadors meeting we were discussing about this idea[1].
Generally the final/pre-final year engineering students need to do some project work on a topic. What I personally saw that they desperately search for one.
we can make a lot of new contributors if we provide them with a project to work, some guidence and may be a certificate at the end. (As they say, target this segment :))
This way we can make much more widespread effect as the student partners themselves will spread Fedora within their peers and their college.
Also we may talk about officially tie-up with some colleges.
The basic idea is here[2].
Now the question id if this is worth taking up. If yes, lets refine it here.
[1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2008-June/msg00241.h... [2]http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora-Student_Mentor_Programme
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susmit shannigrahi wrote:
Generally the final/pre-final year engineering students need to do some project work on a topic. What I personally saw that they desperately search for one.
we can make a lot of new contributors if we provide them with a project to work, some guidence and may be a certificate at the end. (As they say, target this segment :))
Quite by chance this was the same topic that I broached to Spot yesterday afternoon. And it turns out that a good place to push these potential contributors would be towards doing "Fedora QE" starting up with learning how to triage, process and work the bug queue and additionally coming up with Test Cases.
As a student what can we do in this regard? ... Most students of my Univ, (University of Calcutta) are not interested in Linux, because of unfamiliarity with the system. Most of them do all their project work in Visual Studio, as that is really easy.
What can we do about that? ... any suggestions?
I personally feel that educating the students through conferences and meetings can be a good start. We can even approach the HoD with requests for hands-on sessions, where development in Fedora will be taught.
What do u say guys?
from, Bigyan Bhar
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On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 2:21 PM, "Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)" < foss.mailinglists@gmail.com> wrote:
susmit shannigrahi wrote:
Generally the final/pre-final year engineering students need to do
some project work on a topic. What I personally saw that they desperately search for one.
we can make a lot of new contributors if we provide them with a project to work, some guidence and may be a certificate at the end. (As they say, target this segment :))
Quite by chance this was the same topic that I broached to Spot yesterday afternoon. And it turns out that a good place to push these potential contributors would be towards doing "Fedora QE" starting up with learning how to triage, process and work the bug queue and additionally coming up with Test Cases.
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Hi
As a student what can we do in this regard? ... Most students of my Univ, (University of Calcutta) are not interested in Linux, because of unfamiliarity with the system. Most of them do all their project work in Visual Studio, as that is really easy.
Yeah conducting some workshops is also part of the programme. If you look at the wiki page that has been created, the same point has been added. Creating an awareness on what is Fedora and whats so great about it is also an important area. This brings in awareness and that awareness need to be converted to something solid and hence the Mentor programme takes the next step of mentoring new people for their projects which help them in the longer run.
Hope this helps
Cheers, Balaji
On 6/18/08, BiGYaN bigyan.techie@gmail.com wrote:
As a student what can we do in this regard? ... Most students of my Univ, (University of Calcutta) are not interested in Linux, because of unfamiliarity with the system. Most of them do all their project work in Visual Studio, as that is really easy.
What can we do about that? ... any suggestions?
I personally feel that educating the students through conferences and meetings can be a good start. We can even approach the HoD with requests for hands-on sessions, where development in Fedora will be taught.
What do u say guys?
from, Bigyan Bhar
Check out my Blog : http://naygib.blogspot.com/
Imagination is more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world. --- Albert Einstein Imagination is the mother of creativity --- D.Tamal
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 2:21 PM, "Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)" foss.mailinglists@gmail.com wrote:
susmit shannigrahi wrote:
Generally the final/pre-final year engineering students need to do some project work on a topic. What I personally saw that they desperately search for one.
we can make a lot of new contributors if we provide them with a project to work, some guidence and may be a certificate at the end. (As they say, target this segment
:))
Quite by chance this was the same topic that I broached to Spot yesterday
afternoon. And it turns out that a good place to push these potential contributors would be towards doing "Fedora QE" starting up with learning how to triage, process and work the bug queue and additionally coming up with Test Cases.
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i think that is very valid and practical solution and a very obvious observation that most of choose to overlook, students here in india dont contribute because they know so little about linux, i am talking about the general mass, and they are sckeptical about it, first we need to increase the familiarty with the system only that will lead to an increase in contributions from the students, i can also approach my HoD with a request for Hands on sessions on development in linux and the ease of use of it, that will be a good place to start, coupled with the Mentoring program it may increase contributions to the community
2008/6/18 BiGYaN bigyan.techie@gmail.com:
As a student what can we do in this regard? ... Most students of my Univ, (University of Calcutta) are not interested in Linux, because of unfamiliarity with the system. Most of them do all their project work in Visual Studio, as that is really easy.
What can we do about that? ... any suggestions?
I personally feel that educating the students through conferences and meetings can be a good start. We can even approach the HoD with requests for hands-on sessions, where development in Fedora will be taught.
What do u say guys?
from, Bigyan Bhar
Check out my Blog : http://naygib.blogspot.com/
Imagination is more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world. --- Albert Einstein Imagination is the mother of creativity --- D.Tamal
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 2:21 PM, "Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)" < foss.mailinglists@gmail.com> wrote:
susmit shannigrahi wrote:
Generally the final/pre-final year engineering students need to do
some project work on a topic. What I personally saw that they desperately search for one.
we can make a lot of new contributors if we provide them with a project to work, some guidence and may be a certificate at the end. (As they say, target this segment :))
Quite by chance this was the same topic that I broached to Spot yesterday afternoon. And it turns out that a good place to push these potential contributors would be towards doing "Fedora QE" starting up with learning how to triage, process and work the bug queue and additionally coming up with Test Cases.
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Hi
i think that is very valid and practical solution and a very obvious observation that most of choose to overlook, students here in india dont contribute because they know so little about linux, i am talking about the general mass, and they are sckeptical about it, first we need to increase the familiarty with the system only that will lead to an increase in contributions from the students, i can also approach my HoD with a request for Hands on sessions on development in linux and the ease of use of it, that will be a good place to start, coupled with the Mentoring program it may increase contributions to the community
Yes exactly thats the situation and conferences and workshops have to be started as part of the mentor programme. Ambassadors play a very vital role here. The familiarity would be increased only through conferences and workshops and this awareness would be converted using mentor programme when the student wants to get into the project.
Cheers, Balaji
On 6/18/08, Aditya Sharma adityaksharma@gmail.com wrote:
i think that is very valid and practical solution and a very obvious observation that most of choose to overlook, students here in india dont contribute because they know so little about linux, i am talking about the general mass, and they are sckeptical about it, first we need to increase the familiarty with the system only that will lead to an increase in contributions from the students, i can also approach my HoD with a request for Hands on sessions on development in linux and the ease of use of it, that will be a good place to start, coupled with the Mentoring program it may increase contributions to the community
2008/6/18 BiGYaN bigyan.techie@gmail.com:
As a student what can we do in this regard? ... Most students of my Univ,
(University of Calcutta) are not interested in Linux, because of unfamiliarity with the system. Most of them do all their project work in Visual Studio, as that is really easy.
What can we do about that? ... any suggestions?
I personally feel that educating the students through conferences and
meetings can be a good start. We can even approach the HoD with requests for hands-on sessions, where development in Fedora will be taught.
What do u say guys?
from, Bigyan Bhar
Check out my Blog : http://naygib.blogspot.com/
Imagination is more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited.
Imagination encircles the world. --- Albert Einstein
Imagination is the mother of creativity --- D.Tamal
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 2:21 PM, "Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)"
foss.mailinglists@gmail.com wrote:
susmit shannigrahi wrote:
Generally the final/pre-final year engineering students need to do some project work on a topic. What I personally saw that they desperately search for one.
we can make a lot of new contributors if we provide them with a project to work, some guidence and may be a certificate at the end. (As they say, target this segment
:))
Quite by chance this was the same topic that I broached to Spot
yesterday afternoon. And it turns out that a good place to push these potential contributors would be towards doing "Fedora QE" starting up with learning how to triage, process and work the bug queue and additionally coming up with Test Cases.
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this is a nice idea, but at the end of the day, there has to be something credible in the community like google summer of code or the like to attract participation from college students, lets not forget they might be willing to contribute but they wont unless it also helps them build a credible CV, so there has to be a community wide effort to integrate students into the main stream, the mentoring program is a great idea, and can integrate students but if we really want this to pick up we need to have a massive movement and competition among the students themselves to be able to contribute, and the winning contributions can win some sort of certificates or some monetary prize or the like, a competition will bring in better talent and consequently better contributions, this in no way is a replacement for the regular fix a bug and move up the ladder routine but this can occasionally like once a year or so could bring in some good talent and encourage participation.
Regards
Aditya Kumar Sharma
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 2:21 PM, "Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)" < foss.mailinglists@gmail.com> wrote:
susmit shannigrahi wrote:
Generally the final/pre-final year engineering students need to do
some project work on a topic. What I personally saw that they desperately search for one.
we can make a lot of new contributors if we provide them with a project to work, some guidence and may be a certificate at the end. (As they say, target this segment :))
Quite by chance this was the same topic that I broached to Spot yesterday afternoon. And it turns out that a good place to push these potential contributors would be towards doing "Fedora QE" starting up with learning how to triage, process and work the bug queue and additionally coming up with Test Cases.
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hi,
The idea is really great.. Im a college going student just entering 3rd semester in Computer sciences .. and am already looking for programmes and training to add to my CV for a better job.. My college, Manipal Institute of technology, Manipal, India, has just recently become a part of the Sun academic Initiative, which has some perks.. Such an educational programme from Fedora would be more than a dream come true.. A lot of us go through books and material but teaching yourself is not as efficient as a mentor telling you what to do and helping you apply your knowledge practically.. Please give this programme thought.. A few hours a week will be enough from the mentors and there will be plenty of students who are interested and want to learn and contribute..
Ankur
--- On Wed, 18/6/08, Aditya Sharma adityaksharma@gmail.com wrote:
From: Aditya Sharma adityaksharma@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Re: Student partnership program. Extending fedora mentor program to students. To: fedora-ambassadors-list@redhat.com Date: Wednesday, 18 June, 2008, 2:30 PM this is a nice idea, but at the end of the day, there has to be something credible in the community like google summer of code or the like to attract participation from college students, lets not forget they might be willing to contribute but they wont unless it also helps them build a credible CV, so there has to be a community wide effort to integrate students into the main stream, the mentoring program is a great idea, and can integrate students but if we really want this to pick up we need to have a massive movement and competition among the students themselves to be able to contribute, and the winning contributions can win some sort of certificates or some monetary prize or the like, a competition will bring in better talent and consequently better contributions, this in no way is a replacement for the regular fix a bug and move up the ladder routine but this can occasionally like once a year or so could bring in some good talent and encourage participation.
Regards
Aditya Kumar Sharma
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 2:21 PM, "Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)" < foss.mailinglists@gmail.com> wrote:
susmit shannigrahi wrote:
Generally the final/pre-final year engineering
students need to do
some project work on a topic. What I personally saw that they desperately search
for one.
we can make a lot of new contributors if we
provide them with a
project to work, some guidence and may be a certificate at the end. (As they say,
target this segment :))
Quite by chance this was the same topic that I
broached to Spot yesterday
afternoon. And it turns out that a good place to push
these potential
contributors would be towards doing "Fedora
QE" starting up with learning
how to triage, process and work the bug queue and
additionally coming up
with Test Cases.
--
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hey ankur are you a sun CA or a member of the Sun Club?
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 2:59 PM, ankur sinha sanjay_ankur@yahoo.co.in wrote:
hi,
The idea is really great.. Im a college going student just entering 3rd semester in Computer sciences .. and am already looking for programmes and training to add to my CV for a better job.. My college, Manipal Institute of technology, Manipal, India, has just recently become a part of the Sun academic Initiative, which has some perks.. Such an educational programme from Fedora would be more than a dream come true.. A lot of us go through books and material but teaching yourself is not as efficient as a mentor telling you what to do and helping you apply your knowledge practically.. Please give this programme thought.. A few hours a week will be enough from the mentors and there will be plenty of students who are interested and want to learn and contribute..
Ankur
--- On Wed, 18/6/08, Aditya Sharma adityaksharma@gmail.com wrote:
From: Aditya Sharma adityaksharma@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Re: Student partnership program. Extending
fedora mentor program to students.
To: fedora-ambassadors-list@redhat.com Date: Wednesday, 18 June, 2008, 2:30 PM this is a nice idea, but at the end of the day, there has to be something credible in the community like google summer of code or the like to attract participation from college students, lets not forget they might be willing to contribute but they wont unless it also helps them build a credible CV, so there has to be a community wide effort to integrate students into the main stream, the mentoring program is a great idea, and can integrate students but if we really want this to pick up we need to have a massive movement and competition among the students themselves to be able to contribute, and the winning contributions can win some sort of certificates or some monetary prize or the like, a competition will bring in better talent and consequently better contributions, this in no way is a replacement for the regular fix a bug and move up the ladder routine but this can occasionally like once a year or so could bring in some good talent and encourage participation.
Regards
Aditya Kumar Sharma
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 2:21 PM, "Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)" < foss.mailinglists@gmail.com> wrote:
susmit shannigrahi wrote:
Generally the final/pre-final year engineering
students need to do
some project work on a topic. What I personally saw that they desperately search
for one.
we can make a lot of new contributors if we
provide them with a
project to work, some guidence and may be a certificate at the end. (As they say,
target this segment :))
Quite by chance this was the same topic that I
broached to Spot yesterday
afternoon. And it turns out that a good place to push
these potential
contributors would be towards doing "Fedora
QE" starting up with learning
how to triage, process and work the bug queue and
additionally coming up
with Test Cases.
--
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We also have the Sun Club in University of Calcutta, along with a Microsoft Campus Club. I sure hope that Fedora can start something like that. A club ensures regular meetings and all. The running cost is negligible. Our Administration is very open to such clubs and UG type of things.
from, Bigyan Bhar
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On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 2:59 PM, ankur sinha sanjay_ankur@yahoo.co.in wrote:
hi,
The idea is really great.. Im a college going student just entering 3rd semester in Computer sciences .. and am already looking for programmes and training to add to my CV for a better job.. My college, Manipal Institute of technology, Manipal, India, has just recently become a part of the Sun academic Initiative, which has some perks.. Such an educational programme from Fedora would be more than a dream come true.. A lot of us go through books and material but teaching yourself is not as efficient as a mentor telling you what to do and helping you apply your knowledge practically.. Please give this programme thought.. A few hours a week will be enough from the mentors and there will be plenty of students who are interested and want to learn and contribute..
Ankur
--- On Wed, 18/6/08, Aditya Sharma adityaksharma@gmail.com wrote:
From: Aditya Sharma adityaksharma@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Re: Student partnership program. Extending
fedora mentor program to students.
To: fedora-ambassadors-list@redhat.com Date: Wednesday, 18 June, 2008, 2:30 PM this is a nice idea, but at the end of the day, there has to be something credible in the community like google summer of code or the like to attract participation from college students, lets not forget they might be willing to contribute but they wont unless it also helps them build a credible CV, so there has to be a community wide effort to integrate students into the main stream, the mentoring program is a great idea, and can integrate students but if we really want this to pick up we need to have a massive movement and competition among the students themselves to be able to contribute, and the winning contributions can win some sort of certificates or some monetary prize or the like, a competition will bring in better talent and consequently better contributions, this in no way is a replacement for the regular fix a bug and move up the ladder routine but this can occasionally like once a year or so could bring in some good talent and encourage participation.
Regards
Aditya Kumar Sharma
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 2:21 PM, "Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)" < foss.mailinglists@gmail.com> wrote:
susmit shannigrahi wrote:
Generally the final/pre-final year engineering
students need to do
some project work on a topic. What I personally saw that they desperately search
for one.
we can make a lot of new contributors if we
provide them with a
project to work, some guidence and may be a certificate at the end. (As they say,
target this segment :))
Quite by chance this was the same topic that I
broached to Spot yesterday
afternoon. And it turns out that a good place to push
these potential
contributors would be towards doing "Fedora
QE" starting up with learning
how to triage, process and work the bug queue and
additionally coming up
with Test Cases.
--
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2008/6/18 BiGYaN bigyan.techie@gmail.com:
We also have the Sun Club in University of Calcutta, along with a Microsoft Campus Club. I sure hope that Fedora can start something like that. A club ensures regular meetings and all. The running cost is negligible. Our Administration is very open to such clubs and UG type of things.
Nice, so may we start off with University of Calcutta? I can arrange for a few speakers and support (Media, brochures etc..)
But before that we need to make it official and well defined. For that let us hear a few more opinions.
Hi Susmit,
It would be really nice, if we could arrange something like this in University of Calcutta. I can make some arrangements and talk with the faculty as soon as I get a green signal from you. Please inform me of what arrangements are needed from CU.
Please note that this is the examination season for CU, so most of the pupils are busy with that. Any programme will have to be scheduled after mid-August.
from, Bigyan Bhar
Check out my Blog : http://naygib.blogspot.com/
Imagination is more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world. --- Albert Einstein Imagination is the mother of creativity --- D.Tamal
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 3:55 PM, susmit shannigrahi < thinklinux.ssh@gmail.com> wrote:
2008/6/18 BiGYaN bigyan.techie@gmail.com:
We also have the Sun Club in University of Calcutta, along with a
Microsoft
Campus Club. I sure hope that Fedora can start something like that. A
club
ensures regular meetings and all. The running cost is negligible. Our Administration is very open to such clubs and UG type of things.
Nice, so may we start off with University of Calcutta? I can arrange for a few speakers and support (Media, brochures etc..)
But before that we need to make it official and well defined. For that let us hear a few more opinions.
-- Regards, Susmit.
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It would be really nice, if we could arrange something like this in University of Calcutta. I can make some arrangements and talk with the faculty as soon as I get a green signal from you. Please inform me of what arrangements are needed from CU.
Please note that this is the examination season for CU, so most of the pupils are busy with that. Any programme will have to be scheduled after mid-August.
Sure, go on. It is expected that we will come with some nice framework by August. Even if we don't, there is no point we can not have a workshop/seminar session.
As for the CU part, audience(more appropriately participants)and a lab where participants can do hands on jobs will do 95% of the work.
2008/6/18 Aditya Sharma adityaksharma@gmail.com:
this is a nice idea, but at the end of the day, there has to be something credible in the community like google summer of code or the like to attract participation from college students, lets not forget they might be willing to contribute but they wont unless it also helps them build a credible CV,
Look at this http://wiki.dgplug.org/index.php/SummerTraining
Kushal
The ideas are good. We can also have a new SIG for this. First start with school children, give them a live spin with some games , painting and educational stuff
Arnav Kalra wrote:
The ideas are good. We can also have a new SIG for this. First start with school children, give them a live spin with some games , painting and educational stuff
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i think if someone is working on such a live spin they need to be really careful since such a live spin will have to leave a good first impression, lets be frank , bundled Linux games aren't really addictive or even as good as what Windows games may be, if we are targeting school students, I assume you are talking about student like in class X or above, then the spin needs to bundle with it some nice programming tools, as well as some really good FPS games, like AA or something like it, lets leave a good first impression, instead of leaving them with something like Knetwalk, which is a nice game, but I doubt an average school kid would like it right away. Also KDE 4.x or Gnome? for a first introduction i think KDE 4.x would be nice, I personally prefer Gnome, but KDE 4.x has a lot more eyecandy to it.
Regards,
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uhm, maybe RoboCode would be a good addition?? and even SCOURGE?? for eye candy we can always use DOOM3 etc.. plus itll be nice to tell them that WINE can handle almost all windows games..favourites such as CounterStrike and such ?? Ankur --- On Thu, 19/6/08, Aditya Kumar Sharma adityaksharma@gmail.com wrote: From: Aditya Kumar Sharma adityaksharma@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Re: Student partnership program. Extending fedora mentor program to students. To: fedora-ambassadors-list@redhat.com Date: Thursday, 19 June, 2008, 3:01 PM
Arnav Kalra wrote: The ideas are good. We can also have a new SIG for this. First start with school children, give them a live spin with some games , painting and educational stuff
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i think if someone is working on such a live spin they need to be really careful since such a live spin will have to leave a good first impression, lets be frank , bundled Linux games aren't really addictive or even as good as what Windows games may be, if we are targeting school students, I assume you are talking about student like in class X or above, then the spin needs to bundle with it some nice programming tools, as well as some really good FPS games, like AA or something like it, lets leave a good first impression, instead of leaving them with something like Knetwalk, which is a nice game, but I doubt an average school kid would like it right away.
Also KDE 4.x or Gnome? for a first introduction i think KDE 4.x would be nice, I personally prefer Gnome, but KDE 4.x has a lot more eyecandy to it.
Regards,
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as far as i know wine cant handle CS, i may be wrong this could have changed with the latest wine version, but i had to use cedega, which isnt free.
2008/6/19 ankur sinha sanjay_ankur@yahoo.co.in:
uhm,
maybe RoboCode would be a good addition?? and even SCOURGE?? for eye candy we can always use DOOM3 etc.. plus itll be nice to tell them that WINE can handle almost all windows games..favourites such as CounterStrike and such ??
Ankur
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From: Aditya Kumar Sharma adityaksharma@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Re: Student partnership program. Extending fedora mentor program to students. To: fedora-ambassadors-list@redhat.com Date: Thursday, 19 June, 2008, 3:01 PM
Arnav Kalra wrote:
The ideas are good. We can also have a new SIG for this. First start with school children, give them a live spin with some games , painting and educational stuff
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i think if someone is working on such a live spin they need to be really careful since such a live spin will have to leave a good first impression, lets be frank , bundled Linux games aren't really addictive or even as good as what Windows games may be, if we are targeting school students, I assume you are talking about student like in class X or above, then the spin needs to bundle with it some nice programming tools, as well as some really good FPS games, like AA or something like it, lets leave a good first impression, instead of leaving them with something like Knetwalk, which is a nice game, but I doubt an average school kid would like it right away. Also KDE 4.x or Gnome? for a first introduction i think KDE 4.x would be nice, I personally prefer Gnome, but KDE 4.x has a lot more eyecandy to it.
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as far as i know wine cant handle CS, i may be wrong this could have changed with the latest wine version, but i had to use cedega, which isnt free.
We need to concentrate more on the domain front rather than on specific softwares. Something like Networking, Robotics, Gaming,etc. so that we could deduce the software and assign projects. The idea could be giving the students the domains to choose from and then in each domain we could have some options internally.
Cheers, Balaji
2008/6/19 Aditya Sharma adityaksharma@gmail.com:
as far as i know wine cant handle CS, i may be wrong this could have changed with the latest wine version, but i had to use cedega, which isnt free.
2008/6/19 ankur sinha sanjay_ankur@yahoo.co.in:
uhm,
maybe RoboCode would be a good addition?? and even SCOURGE?? for eye candy we can always use DOOM3 etc.. plus itll be nice to tell them that WINE can handle almost all windows games..favourites such as CounterStrike and such ??
Ankur
--- On Thu, 19/6/08, Aditya Kumar Sharma adityaksharma@gmail.com wrote:
From: Aditya Kumar Sharma adityaksharma@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Re: Student partnership program. Extending fedora mentor program to students. To: fedora-ambassadors-list@redhat.com Date: Thursday, 19 June, 2008, 3:01 PM
Arnav Kalra wrote:
The ideas are good. We can also have a new SIG for this. First start with school children, give them a live spin with some games , painting and educational stuff
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i think if someone is working on such a live spin they need to be really careful since such a live spin will have to leave a good first impression, lets be frank , bundled Linux games aren't really addictive or even as good as what Windows games may be, if we are targeting school students, I assume you are talking about student like in class X or above, then the spin needs to bundle with it some nice programming tools, as well as some really good FPS games, like AA or something like it, lets leave a good first impression, instead of leaving them with something like Knetwalk, which is a nice game, but I doubt an average school kid would like it right away. Also KDE 4.x or Gnome? for a first introduction i think KDE 4.x would be nice, I personally prefer Gnome, but KDE 4.x has a lot more eyecandy to it.
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In Tunisia, we have an open source club at all computer science faculty. It will be more easy to add this club at faculty as fedora point and work with fedora project to translate, coding and make bonus.
Fedora project can organize a coding game and offers price like OLPC for the student team that make innovation for fedora Project.
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 5:38 PM, G balajig81@gmail.com wrote:
Hi
as far as i know wine cant handle CS, i may be wrong this could have
changed
with the latest wine version, but i had to use cedega, which isnt free.
We need to concentrate more on the domain front rather than on specific softwares. Something like Networking, Robotics, Gaming,etc. so that we could deduce the software and assign projects. The idea could be giving the students the domains to choose from and then in each domain we could have some options internally.
Cheers, Balaji
2008/6/19 Aditya Sharma adityaksharma@gmail.com:
as far as i know wine cant handle CS, i may be wrong this could have
changed
with the latest wine version, but i had to use cedega, which isnt free.
2008/6/19 ankur sinha sanjay_ankur@yahoo.co.in:
uhm,
maybe RoboCode would be a good addition?? and even SCOURGE?? for eye candy we can always use DOOM3 etc.. plus itll be nice to tell them that
WINE
can handle almost all windows games..favourites such as CounterStrike
and
such ??
Ankur
--- On Thu, 19/6/08, Aditya Kumar Sharma adityaksharma@gmail.com
wrote:
From: Aditya Kumar Sharma adityaksharma@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Re: Student partnership program. Extending fedora mentor program to students. To: fedora-ambassadors-list@redhat.com Date: Thursday, 19 June, 2008, 3:01 PM
Arnav Kalra wrote:
The ideas are good. We can also have a new SIG for this. First start
with
school children, give them a live spin with some games , painting and educational stuff
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i think if someone is working on such a live spin they need to be really careful since such a live spin will have to leave a good first
impression,
lets be frank , bundled Linux games aren't really addictive or even as
good
as what Windows games may be, if we are targeting school students, I
assume
you are talking about student like in class X or above, then the spin
needs
to bundle with it some nice programming tools, as well as some really
good
FPS games, like AA or something like it, lets leave a good first
impression,
instead of leaving them with something like Knetwalk, which is a nice
game,
but I doubt an average school kid would like it right away. Also KDE 4.x or Gnome? for a first introduction i think KDE 4.x would be nice, I personally prefer Gnome, but KDE 4.x has a lot more eyecandy to
it.
Regards,
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I dont really think that adding wine will be such a good idea, but making a special spin like a perhaps a Developer spin is a good idea but we will seriously have to see who we are targeting School or College coz there need will differ
On 6/19/08, nihed mbarek nihedmm@gmail.com wrote:
In Tunisia, we have an open source club at all computer science faculty. It will be more easy to add this club at faculty as fedora point and work with fedora project to translate, coding and make bonus.
Fedora project can organize a coding game and offers price like OLPC for the student team that make innovation for fedora Project.
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 5:38 PM, G balajig81@gmail.com wrote:
Hi
as far as i know wine cant handle CS, i may be wrong this could have
changed
with the latest wine version, but i had to use cedega, which isnt free.
We need to concentrate more on the domain front rather than on specific softwares. Something like Networking, Robotics, Gaming,etc. so that we could deduce the software and assign projects. The idea could be giving the students the domains to choose from and then in each domain we could have some options internally.
Cheers, Balaji
2008/6/19 Aditya Sharma adityaksharma@gmail.com:
as far as i know wine cant handle CS, i may be wrong this could have
changed
with the latest wine version, but i had to use cedega, which isnt free.
2008/6/19 ankur sinha sanjay_ankur@yahoo.co.in:
uhm,
maybe RoboCode would be a good addition?? and even SCOURGE?? for eye candy we can always use DOOM3 etc.. plus itll be nice to tell them that
WINE
can handle almost all windows games..favourites such as CounterStrike
and
such ??
Ankur
--- On Thu, 19/6/08, Aditya Kumar Sharma adityaksharma@gmail.com
wrote:
From: Aditya Kumar Sharma adityaksharma@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Re: Student partnership program. Extending fedora mentor program to students. To: fedora-ambassadors-list@redhat.com Date: Thursday, 19 June, 2008, 3:01 PM
Arnav Kalra wrote:
The ideas are good. We can also have a new SIG for this. First start
with
school children, give them a live spin with some games , painting and educational stuff
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i think if someone is working on such a live spin they need to be really careful since such a live spin will have to leave a good first
impression,
lets be frank , bundled Linux games aren't really addictive or even as
good
as what Windows games may be, if we are targeting school students, I
assume
you are talking about student like in class X or above, then the spin
needs
to bundle with it some nice programming tools, as well as some really
good
FPS games, like AA or something like it, lets leave a good first
impression,
instead of leaving them with something like Knetwalk, which is a nice
game,
but I doubt an average school kid would like it right away. Also KDE 4.x or Gnome? for a first introduction i think KDE 4.x would be nice, I personally prefer Gnome, but KDE 4.x has a lot more eyecandy to
it.
Regards,
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On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 10:09 PM, Ankur Shrivastava ankur@ankurs.com wrote:
I dont really think that adding wine will be such a good idea, but making a special spin like a perhaps a Developer spin is a good idea but we will seriously have to see who we are targeting School or College coz there need will differ
I am more biased to college as teaching college folks is much easier and more targeted. (If we talk about contributors.) Also school students can and do contribute, but executing this school idea(even for a few number of students) will need much more resource and care.
i agree.. it will be easier to extend to us college folk.. although atleast introduction to school levels should be done.. itll help people in starting earlier and theyll atleast be aware of the existence of Open source.. Most students here are not even aware of such software until they actually enter college.. i am an example..With respect to wine ... You cant really expect a sudden shift from an entire life of windows to Fedora instantaneously..it can be highly frustatingj just setting up a fedora system with everything functional.. Also being able to run games etc will be an incentive.. A lot of people refrain from using Linux because they use software that "cannot" be run on it.. Using wine will show them that we can run windows software and more than that... They will start with it and with passing time find Linux open source software that is as good if not better than what theyve been using all their lives...regards, --- On Thu, 19/6/08, susmit shannigrahi thinklinux.ssh@gmail.com wrote: From: susmit shannigrahi thinklinux.ssh@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Re: Student partnership program. Extending fedora mentor program to students. To: fedora-ambassadors-list@redhat.com Date: Thursday, 19 June, 2008, 10:19 PM
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 10:09 PM, Ankur Shrivastava ankur@ankurs.com wrote:
I dont really think that adding wine will be such a good idea, but making a special spin like a perhaps a Developer spin is a good idea but we will seriously have to see who we are targeting School or College coz there need will differ
I am more biased to college as teaching college folks is much easier and more targeted. (If we talk about contributors.) Also school students can and do contribute, but executing this school idea(even for a few number of students) will need much more resource and care.
2008/6/19 ankur sinha sanjay_ankur@yahoo.co.in:
i agree.. it will be easier to extend to us college folk.. although atleast introduction to school levels should be done.. itll help people in starting earlier and theyll atleast be aware of the existence of Open source.. Most students here are not even aware of such software until they actually enter college.. i am an example..
With respect to wine ... You cant really expect a sudden shift from an entire life of windows to Fedora instantaneously..it can be highly frustatingj just setting up a fedora system with everything functional.. Also being able to run games etc will be an incentive.. A lot of people refrain from using Linux because they use software that "cannot" be run on it.. Using wine will show them that we can run windows software and more than that... They will start with it and with passing time find Linux open source software that is as good if not better than what theyve been using all their lives...
regards,
I agree with you that introducing Open Source to school level is really important but targeting school level will not give much result as here a lot of work is required to be done but college level is realtively easy as the students themselves are hunting for these type of options
and on wine i am really against wine the whole point of using Fedora is its open source nature if you will tell people right from the start that there is something called as wine they will never try to use any open source alternative and will continue to use wine only and i dont expect a sudden shift from an entire life of windows to Fedora as everyone knows and recomends that any one planning to shift should first keep a dual boot system and then slowly move completely to Distro of your choice
i am seriously looking forward for this
regards
Ankur Shrivastava
On Thursday 19 June 2008 11:01:17 pm ankur sinha wrote:
i agree.. it will be easier to extend to us college folk.. although atleast introduction to school levels should be done.. itll help people in starting earlier and theyll atleast be aware of the existence of Open source.. Most students here are not even aware of such software until they actually enter college.. i am an example..With respect to wine ... You cant really expect a sudden shift from an entire life of windows to Fedora instantaneously..it can be highly frustatingj just setting up a fedora system with everything functional..
Eh!! When , why and how !!!!
Also being able to run games etc will be an incentive.. A lot of people refrain from using Linux because they use software that "cannot" be run on it.. Using wine will show them that we can run windows software and more than that... They will start with it and with passing time find Linux open source software that is as good if not better than what theyve been using all their lives...regards, -
Why do we need to show them Windows software ? We should always show the FOSS alternatives. Unless we guide the newbies properly they will be always in a state of uncertainty where to start using FOSS in their life. Fedora is always a very good entry point , I ask the students to start using it first. Then go ahead and learn the basics of developments.
Kushal
actually i myself study in class VII. I want to target children II onwards as they are easy to addict and spread fedora. They also do not like games about which you are talking. Giving them tuxpaint with stamps and desklets is enough along some small flash like mario type games
hi,ive just given games as an example.. anyway.. everyone looks for something better..just like we quit windoz for better open source.. i dont quite copy which children you talk of that are not interested in games..Do they know what games even exist ?? but thats not quite the point.. im saying that fedora should be taught to them to be used in every possible way.. using handycams, webcams etc.. everything.. a lot of people switch distributions just because another one provides better support for something they need often.. And not everyone believes in looking around the net mercilessly and waiting patiently at forums when it is much easier to use another distro.. i see it all the time at college.. a lot of my colleagues prefer Ubuntu.. because it is easier..??? you can stop talking about wine now.. its not the main objective here..neither is it to addict children to fedora.. Ankur --- On Fri, 20/6/08, Arnav Kalra arnavkalra007@gmail.com wrote: From: Arnav Kalra arnavkalra007@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Re: Student partnership program. Extending fedora mentor program to students. To: fedora-ambassadors-list@redhat.com Date: Friday, 20 June, 2008, 10:43 AM
actually i myself study in class VII. I want to target children II onwards as they are easy to addict and spread fedora. They also do not like games about which you are talking. Giving them tuxpaint with stamps and desklets is enough along some small flash like mario type games
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i also think only releasing a Developer spin isnt exactly a good idea.. Shouldnt we first make people comfortable with atleast using Fedora satisfactorily before we can expect them to develop ?? --- On Thu, 19/6/08, susmit shannigrahi thinklinux.ssh@gmail.com wrote: From: susmit shannigrahi thinklinux.ssh@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Re: Student partnership program. Extending fedora mentor program to students. To: fedora-ambassadors-list@redhat.com Date: Thursday, 19 June, 2008, 10:19 PM
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 10:09 PM, Ankur Shrivastava ankur@ankurs.com wrote:
I dont really think that adding wine will be such a good idea, but making a special spin like a perhaps a Developer spin is a good idea but we will seriously have to see who we are targeting School or College coz there need will differ
I am more biased to college as teaching college folks is much easier and more targeted. (If we talk about contributors.) Also school students can and do contribute, but executing this school idea(even for a few number of students) will need much more resource and care.
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 7:38 AM, G balajig81@gmail.com wrote:
We need to concentrate more on the domain front rather than on specific softwares. Something like Networking, Robotics, Gaming,etc.
We just started a Robotics SIG, we'll see where we are by the end of the summer in terms of putting forward interesting potential project.
I saw your blog entry with the wiki page. I'm too overloaded with other things to take an active role in formulating the fedora-student mentoring process. But if you can get a process defined, that I can shop around I'm pretty sure I can help get students and faculty from institutions have have some connections with to looking at how to participate. I could certainly look at getting an undergraduate locally at my home institution involved in the next academic year.
-jef
This is really great news. I am a student of 4th semester B.Tech in Information Technology at RCC Institute of Information Technology, Kolkata. I am sure my college will jump at this idea. It will really be glad to host Fedora conferences and seminars. We already have a functioning Linux Users' Group and this will be an added boost. The students will also lap up the idea of projects. I will definitely talk to the college authorities and let you know the outcome.
Yours sincerely, Dipanjan Chakraborty.
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 8:14 AM, susmit shannigrahi < thinklinux.ssh@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
In our previous APAC ambassadors meeting we were discussing about this idea[1].
Generally the final/pre-final year engineering students need to do some project work on a topic. What I personally saw that they desperately search for one.
we can make a lot of new contributors if we provide them with a project to work, some guidence and may be a certificate at the end. (As they say, target this segment :))
This way we can make much more widespread effect as the student partners themselves will spread Fedora within their peers and their college.
Also we may talk about officially tie-up with some colleges.
The basic idea is here[2].
Now the question id if this is worth taking up. If yes, lets refine it here.
[1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2008-June/msg00241.h... [2]http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora-Student_Mentor_Programme
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This is really great news. I am a student of 4th semester B.Tech in Information Technology at RCC Institute of Information Technology, Kolkata. I am sure my college will jump at this idea. It will really be glad to host Fedora conferences and seminars. We already have a functioning Linux Users' Group and this will be an added boost. The students will also lap up the idea of projects. I will definitely talk to the college authorities and let you know the outcome.
Ah, that's nice. Please go on. We will support you with whatever we can from our part.
Hi Sushmit
I guess now we could start some ground work on how it could be done and how to move it forward. What do you say ?
Cheers, Balaji
2008/6/21 Dipanjan Chakraborty chakraborty.dipanjan@gmail.com:
This is really great news. I am a student of 4th semester B.Tech in Information Technology at RCC Institute of Information Technology, Kolkata. I am sure my college will jump at this idea. It will really be glad to host Fedora conferences and seminars. We already have a functioning Linux Users' Group and this will be an added boost. The students will also lap up the idea of projects. I will definitely talk to the college authorities and let you know the outcome.
Yours sincerely, Dipanjan Chakraborty.
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 8:14 AM, susmit shannigrahi thinklinux.ssh@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
In our previous APAC ambassadors meeting we were discussing about this idea[1].
Generally the final/pre-final year engineering students need to do some project work on a topic. What I personally saw that they desperately search for one.
we can make a lot of new contributors if we provide them with a project to work, some guidence and may be a certificate at the end. (As they say, target this segment :))
This way we can make much more widespread effect as the student partners themselves will spread Fedora within their peers and their college.
Also we may talk about officially tie-up with some colleges.
The basic idea is here[2].
Now the question id if this is worth taking up. If yes, lets refine it here.
[1]https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2008-June/msg00241.h... [2]http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora-Student_Mentor_Programme
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I guess now we could start some ground work on how it could be done and how to move it forward. What do you say ?
My idea is like this (will upload to the wiki), Please review.
AT FEDORA:
* Contributors suggest potential projects.
* Reviewed by peers, review committee.
* Listing accepted Projects .
* Please note: "Projects" does not mean coding only. It means whatever is useful for Fedora and community as a whole. For example, A few tentative projects, other than coding may be "Creating an BN_IN live cd/Creating a kids spin/Translating fp.o in BN_IN "
* Assigning mentors and backup mentors.
* Fixing up timing and duration of project.
* Evaluation by mentor and review committee.
AT THE INSTITUTES:
* Approach the institutes "Officially".
* Organise seminar/workshop at institutes. A lot of students will come and participate. Most of them are potential users.
* Follow that up with another advanced workshop. Here you can identify the potential contributors.
* Now let these selected students know about the mailing lists, irc and help them identifying their areas of interest.
* Give them a small and easy test, only to identify their willingness and eagerness to work.
* Assign them projects.
* Award them for good work.
This is a very rough draft, please help improving them.
If you have any question, please add it to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora-Student_Mentor_Programme#Issues_to_be_r...
Thanks. -- Regards, Susmit.
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I talked to the training cell in our college. They are interested in this, no doubt. But they first want me to detail out the entire procedure and the possible benefits to the students. They also want a briefing on Fedora. Can someone help me compile this draft? It must be as detailed as possible.
Dipanjan Chakraborty, Belur, Howrah
On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 10:59 PM, susmit shannigrahi < thinklinux.ssh@gmail.com> wrote:
I guess now we could start some ground work on how it could be done and how to move it forward. What do you say ?
My idea is like this (will upload to the wiki), Please review.
AT FEDORA:
Contributors suggest potential projects.
Reviewed by peers, review committee.
Listing accepted Projects .
Please note: "Projects" does not mean coding only. It means whatever
is useful for Fedora and community as a whole. For example, A few tentative projects, other than coding may be "Creating an BN_IN live cd/Creating a kids spin/Translating fp.o in BN_IN "
Assigning mentors and backup mentors.
Fixing up timing and duration of project.
Evaluation by mentor and review committee.
AT THE INSTITUTES:
Approach the institutes "Officially".
Organise seminar/workshop at institutes. A lot of students will come
and participate. Most of them are potential users.
- Follow that up with another advanced workshop. Here you can identify
the potential contributors.
- Now let these selected students know about the mailing lists, irc
and help them identifying their areas of interest.
- Give them a small and easy test, only to identify their willingness
and eagerness to work.
Assign them projects.
Award them for good work.
This is a very rough draft, please help improving them.
If you have any question, please add it to
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora-Student_Mentor_Programme#Issues_to_be_r...
Thanks.
Regards, Susmit.
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Hi
I talked to the training cell in our college. They are interested in this, no doubt. But they first want me to detail out the entire procedure and the possible benefits to the students. They also want a briefing on Fedora. Can someone help me compile this draft? It must be as detailed as possible.
Excellent !. You could use this link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Presentations where the presentations are available. you could get some points there and some inputs there too. You could probably create a small presentation and send it across to the list so that people could review it and give you their expert review comments. And yes we need to decide on how to take the mentor programme forward.
Sushmit: I guess we have got some good feedback and some questions also to be answered how about discussing all these in a meeting. Can we organize one so that we could discuss the second level there ? What do you say ?
Cheers, Balaji
2008/6/23 Dipanjan Chakraborty chakraborty.dipanjan@gmail.com:
I talked to the training cell in our college. They are interested in this, no doubt. But they first want me to detail out the entire procedure and the possible benefits to the students. They also want a briefing on Fedora. Can someone help me compile this draft? It must be as detailed as possible.
Dipanjan Chakraborty, Belur, Howrah
On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 10:59 PM, susmit shannigrahi thinklinux.ssh@gmail.com wrote:
I guess now we could start some ground work on how it could be done and how to move it forward. What do you say ?
My idea is like this (will upload to the wiki), Please review.
AT FEDORA:
Contributors suggest potential projects.
Reviewed by peers, review committee.
Listing accepted Projects .
Please note: "Projects" does not mean coding only. It means whatever
is useful for Fedora and community as a whole. For example, A few tentative projects, other than coding may be "Creating an BN_IN live cd/Creating a kids spin/Translating fp.o in BN_IN "
Assigning mentors and backup mentors.
Fixing up timing and duration of project.
Evaluation by mentor and review committee.
AT THE INSTITUTES:
Approach the institutes "Officially".
Organise seminar/workshop at institutes. A lot of students will come
and participate. Most of them are potential users.
- Follow that up with another advanced workshop. Here you can identify
the potential contributors.
- Now let these selected students know about the mailing lists, irc
and help them identifying their areas of interest.
- Give them a small and easy test, only to identify their willingness
and eagerness to work.
Assign them projects.
Award them for good work.
This is a very rough draft, please help improving them.
If you have any question, please add it to
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora-Student_Mentor_Programme#Issues_to_be_r...
Thanks.
Regards, Susmit.
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Sushmit: I guess we have got some good feedback and some questions also to be answered how about discussing all these in a meeting. Can we organize one so that we could discuss the second level there ? What do you say ?
I shall be out of station till next sunday, so either you people go ahead, or we may schedule it next to next weekend. :)
Thanks
I want to make a fedora kid spin can anybody help me. I had posted some ideas earlier
Hi,
I want to make a fedora kid spin can anybody help me. I had posted some
ideas earlier A good start might be to simply take an existing kickstart file shipped with livecd-creator and add / remove packages so that it fits your needs then rebuild the ISO image with livecd-creator.
On the technical side, it's not complicated at all. Revisor might help too, but I never tried it so I can't say.
You might also want to talk to the artwork team about that, might be nice to have a real kid-oriented artwork :)
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Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) French Fedora Ambassador
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i do not have a kickstart file but it would be good to change an existing kickstart file and ask the artwork team to make new artwork
i do not have a kickstart file
You definitely need one as it basically is the configuration file for your spin.
but it would be good to change an existing kickstart file
As I said, some (the one used to create the official spins) are shipped with livecd-creator. Install it, iirc you'll the find them in /etc/livecd-creator/
You can easily include a "base-system" kickstart in your own one and simply change the installed packages. That would be a good start and you would have your own live spin.
Here is a how-to: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD/LiveCDHowTo
You could also have a look at Revisor which is a nice GUI to livecd-creator.
and ask the artwork team to make new artwork
What are you waiting for ? :)
Maybe creating a SIG might be the best procedure, however I am not really familiar with this as I am rather new in here ^^.
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Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) French Fedora Ambassador
---------- "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~Benjamin Franklin
I had talked to the training and placement cell in our college, as I had said earlier. They had asked me to detail the entire process. So I have prepared a draft . There are two documents. One is a letter approaching the college, and the other is a description of fedora. I am attaching both. please check them if any additions or deletions are to be made. Am I entitled to sign the letter? There's another point, do I write fedora with a small 'f' or a capital 'F'?
Dipanjan Chakraborty
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 5:46 PM, Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) < bochecha@fedoraproject.org> wrote:
i do not have a kickstart file
You definitely need one as it basically is the configuration file for your spin.
but it would be good to change an existing kickstart file
As I said, some (the one used to create the official spins) are shipped with livecd-creator. Install it, iirc you'll the find them in /etc/livecd-creator/
You can easily include a "base-system" kickstart in your own one and simply change the installed packages. That would be a good start and you would have your own live spin.
Here is a how-to: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD/LiveCDHowTo
You could also have a look at Revisor which is a nice GUI to livecd-creator.
and ask the artwork team to make new artwork
What are you waiting for ? :)
Maybe creating a SIG might be the best procedure, however I am not really familiar with this as I am rather new in here ^^.
Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) French Fedora Ambassador
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hi,found your name on the local contacts page too.. im at dhanbad currently so kolkata is the closest for me.. i need a fedora 9 i386 dvd to install it on my sisters laptop.. what should i send to you?? a dvd and ?? regards,Ankur
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Where are you friend:)?, i have some of then here, i can send one for you but i need your adress and mail zip code right? =]
2008/6/28 ankur sinha sanjay_ankur@yahoo.co.in:
hi,
found your name on the local contacts page too.. im at dhanbad currently so kolkata is the closest for me.. i need a fedora 9 i386 dvd to install it on my sisters laptop.. what should i send to you?? a dvd and ??
regards,
Ankur
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