Hi, all,
After being at the booth at FOSDEM 2017 and in light of upcoming FOSDEM 2018 let me raise a discussion about what we are actually doing at the booth there.
At the last FOSDEM we had a number of T-shirts available as swag. And the process looked as follows:
--- Whenever person stopped at a booth for the moment, he/she was approached by the Fedora Ambassador with a question "Do you want a Fedora T-shirt? Register an account and sign for a Fosdem badge to get one!".
The person signs in right there from a phone or laptop, gets a T-shirt and goes away. ---
While we get some Fedora "users" from this approach, I think it is fundamentally wrong.
(Please don't take it as a personal offense, it is the approach itself, not the Ambassador who manages it :) )
So let's stick to the goal: the reason why we host a booth at a conference is to show that we exist, and that we are a good community worth joining. The reasons (at least my reasons to join) are: 1) always something interesting happens, 2) generic upstream-oriented attitude - we are doing something for every one, not just for our project alone.
So our presence at the conference should somehow reflect that.
Being Ambassador staying the whole day at the booth talking with random strangers is quite hard. So when you get tired you want to switch to some auto-pilot mode, when you don't want to think anymore and just stick to some formal rules, like "sign in - get a t-shirt". But this is not why we are there. This mode actually damages the Fedora community.
We shouldn't commercialize it, thus we shouldn't behave like a mindless marketing crowd who's goal is to collect "links to customers". We are community who works together and who talks about our work. That is the primary option, swag, Fedora account, badge - these are all funny, but completely optional things. Remove them - and there still be Fedora booth worth visiting.
Thus, my suggestion:
* don't aggressively promote the Fedora Account or badge. You can explain what it is, but never start conversation with the "Sign in!", never force anyone to sign in, unless he needs to report a bug or smth. This builds the respect and trust.
* don't consider number of sign-ins as a measure of success, get personal.
Specifically for T-shirts: Year ago at FrOSCon we had a pack of "Proud Fedora User" T-shirts. When it came to distributing them, we need a way to identify people which get them, so that we don't just throw them away for nothing.
At Fosdem the Fedora Account registration was used for that. But at FrOSCon I did it differently. I simply asked the person "Are you a _proud_ Fedora user?" And guess what, I always get an honest answer, which works as a good conversation starter. We had a lot of fun then, without any enforced "T-shirt requirement" and any commercialization of the process..
* be ready to talk technical (or better say "real", design, documentation,.. whatever works for you). Don't be the swag-distributing robot. Have your interest.
For example I've recently made a LED light blinking on a raspberry pi - this is super easy to be honest, but it is awesome and I can talk about it :)
* When you are tired - get a break. Have you time to visit a talk or two. Get involved in the topics in other booths. Be part of the big crowd. We are not just Fedora, we are part of much bigger community. And we don't have to force them to be Fedorians to work together :)
Usually there are quite a lot of Fedorians at FOSDEM, I think we can make it easier to join the booth, if we will be more open about joining. For example let's have a schedule printed at the booth and let people randomly running around to sign on sight for particular time slots - hour or two of booth work. I think it would be nice experience for some of those Fedora users, who don't have time or desire to commit to the entire event. Let them sign for just a particular hour - it would be easier for them to participate, it would be easier for others to find them.
And this would make Fedora booth the default meeting point.
Generally, Fedora is not to sell, it is to be part of, or to collaborate with :)
On Tue, Sep 26, 2017, at 12:17 PM, Aleksandra Fedorova wrote:
Hi, all,
After being at the booth at FOSDEM 2017 and in light of upcoming FOSDEM 2018 let me raise a discussion about what we are actually doing at the booth there.
At the last FOSDEM we had a number of T-shirts available as swag. And the process looked as follows:
Whenever person stopped at a booth for the moment, he/she was approached by the Fedora Ambassador with a question "Do you want a Fedora T-shirt? Register an account and sign for a Fosdem badge to get one!".
The person signs in right there from a phone or laptop, gets a T-shirt and goes away.
While we get some Fedora "users" from this approach, I think it is fundamentally wrong.
(Please don't take it as a personal offense, it is the approach itself, not the Ambassador who manages it :) )
So let's stick to the goal: the reason why we host a booth at a conference is to show that we exist, and that we are a good community worth joining. The reasons (at least my reasons to join) are:
- always something interesting happens,
This is a theme being pushed at some other RH-related efforts at FOSDEM. I'd love to see this message carried forward!
- generic upstream-oriented attitude - we are doing something for
every one, not just for our project alone.
So our presence at the conference should somehow reflect that.
Being Ambassador staying the whole day at the booth talking with random strangers is quite hard. So when you get tired you want to switch to some auto-pilot mode, when you don't want to think anymore and just stick to some formal rules, like "sign in - get a t-shirt". But this is not why we are there. This mode actually damages the Fedora community.
We shouldn't commercialize it, thus we shouldn't behave like a mindless marketing crowd who's goal is to collect "links to customers". We are community who works together and who talks about our work. That is the primary option, swag, Fedora account, badge - these are all funny, but completely optional things. Remove them - and there still be Fedora booth worth visiting.
Thus, my suggestion:
- don't aggressively promote the Fedora Account or badge. You can
explain what it is, but never start conversation with the "Sign in!", never force anyone to sign in, unless he needs to report a bug or smth. This builds the respect and trust.
This is great, however I don't want there to not be a badge. The badge gives us some data value in fedmsg, so let's keep it but not push it heavily.
- don't consider number of sign-ins as a measure of success, get
personal.
This speaks directly to the idea that our impact measurements can be qualitative, not quantitative. The kinds of conversations we have and what they are about can tell us more about how to make Fedora more appealing than knowing that we talked to N people.
Specifically for T-shirts: Year ago at FrOSCon we had a pack of "Proud Fedora User" T-shirts. When it came to distributing them, we need a way to identify people which get them, so that we don't just throw them away for nothing.
At Fosdem the Fedora Account registration was used for that. But at FrOSCon I did it differently. I simply asked the person "Are you a _proud_ Fedora user?" And guess what, I always get an honest answer, which works as a good conversation starter. We had a lot of fun then, without any enforced "T-shirt requirement" and any commercialization of the process..
+1
- be ready to talk technical (or better say "real", design,
documentation,.. whatever works for you). Don't be the swag-distributing robot. Have your interest.
For example I've recently made a LED light blinking on a raspberry pi
- this is super easy to be honest, but it is awesome and I can talk
about it :)
A key here is knowing who is around and when they will be there. This way, if someone comes up and wants to talk about something you don't know well you can tell them explicitly who to talk to and when they will be at the booth. This works really well at other shows.
- When you are tired - get a break. Have you time to visit a talk or
two. Get involved in the topics in other booths. Be part of the big crowd. We are not just Fedora, we are part of much bigger community. And we don't have to force them to be Fedorians to work together :)
Usually there are quite a lot of Fedorians at FOSDEM, I think we can make it easier to join the booth, if we will be more open about joining. For example let's have a schedule printed at the booth and let people randomly running around to sign on sight for particular time slots - hour or two of booth work. I think it would be nice experience for some of those Fedora users, who don't have time or desire to commit to the entire event. Let them sign for just a particular hour - it would be easier for them to participate, it would be easier for others to find them.
What do we need to do to get these folks on board? I am happy to do a social for people who work the booth - is that incentive to find those folks?
regards,
bex
And this would make Fedora booth the default meeting point.
Generally, Fedora is not to sell, it is to be part of, or to collaborate with :)
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Hi,
On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 5:29 PM, Brian Exelbierd bex@pobox.com wrote:
This is great, however I don't want there to not be a badge. The badge gives us some data value in fedmsg, so let's keep it but not push it heavily.
I am not against the badge, it is a nice feature, but just let's not make it look like if someone has not registered for badge or Fedora Account, that we don't want to talk to him. If you start the conversation with "Sign in!" it kinda looks scary.
Usually there are quite a lot of Fedorians at FOSDEM, I think we can make it easier to join the booth, if we will be more open about joining. For example let's have a schedule printed at the booth and let people randomly running around to sign on sight for particular time slots - hour or two of booth work. I think it would be nice experience for some of those Fedora users, who don't have time or desire to commit to the entire event. Let them sign for just a particular hour - it would be easier for them to participate, it would be easier for others to find them.
What do we need to do to get these folks on board? I am happy to do a social for people who work the booth - is that incentive to find those folks?
For just a random participant at a conference, who is not a famous kernel maintainer or even speaker, it could be hard to find a crowd to talk to. Even when there is 8000 people around - you don't connect to them. So my idea is that booth needs to be such a connector. (I personally use it for that) So my idea is not about us going somewhere to socialize, but for making booth the socializing place of its own.
In practice I see it somewhat like this:
* we get a banner with huge letters "open hours" or "ask me about" or "Fedora meeting point"
This could be a dedicated banner or simply an A3 paper pinned on top of existing banner with some tape, whatever works, but the bigger the better.
Now there should be three columns: time slot, name/fas and topics. And there should be a pen. And any Fedora contributor can sign himself in a time slot.
* week before the event we announce the Fosdem Open Hours on fedora-devel@ and suggest people to sign in for time slots in advance
They don't have to present their projects, they don't have to be open source "celebrities", they don't have to be Ambassadors, they just need to talk about Fedora for an hour. Meet other users.
* we can also reach out to Fedora-related FOSDEM speakers directly and suggest them to have a "follow-up" Q&A hour at the booth after their talk
When I do a talk at a conference, these follow-up questions are the most interesting part of it, and 5 minutes after the talk are usually not enough. Then I think it is a great opportunity for a speaker to extend the Q&A session and have a dedicated place for it.
* let Fedora contributors sign in for time slot on site, while they are passing by.
At huge conferences there is always a time when you don't know what to do, because the room you wanted to get in was overcrowded, or you have a break in your schedule, or whatever. So let people come to the booth during that time and announce themselves and work as Fedora Ambassador for a bit.
For those who have signed, we shouldn't promise the only on-topic questions and deep meaningful discussions, we should promote it as a "meet the crowd" thing. The topics should work as possible conversation starters, but no one should be limited to them. If it happens that you end up discussing the specific pull-request you are reviewing - it is awesome, but if it just an hour of talking about "why Fedora", while you've signed with the "kernel message bus" topic - that should be totally ok too.
Optionally: * design special t-shirts for those who signed in and came, like "Fosdem 2018 Fedora AMA"
Now there might be problems:
- no one wants to participate
Maybe this idea doesn't work and people are actually quite busy and have more of the interesting stuff to do at a conference than I think. Then we just populate the open hours list with some inputs from the Ambassadors themselves. We are Fedora contributors as well. So we can put our names and our topics, and this will also help us to organize Ambassador shifts in a better way.
- inexperienced people at the booth
We always need at least one experienced ambassador to be at the booth, coordinating those who came temporarily. In the end it is the Ambassador who is responsible for the booth equipment, swag and so on.
- space at the booth
Currently we don't have much space near the booth stand, and it sometimes gets overcrowded, so that people who talk don't let others to get the swag. We need to optimize a space a bit. I think if we don't clutter it with clothes and boxes we can setup a dedicated standing corner for talking which would be on the side of a table. May be get a barstool in that corner as well.
Feel free to discuss and disagree :)
A flash of lightning and *boom* this thread is back.
<Now with more top posting>
Aleksandra, is coordinating the FOSDEM event something you're interested in? I'll be there with the Distributions Devroom and would be happy to help out. It'd be great if some folks in Fedora want to help with the devroom so I can go to lunch/toilet/etc :)
regards,
bex
On Thu, Sep 28, 2017, at 10:44 AM, Aleksandra Fedorova wrote:
Hi,
On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 5:29 PM, Brian Exelbierd bex@pobox.com wrote:
This is great, however I don't want there to not be a badge. The badge gives us some data value in fedmsg, so let's keep it but not push it heavily.
I am not against the badge, it is a nice feature, but just let's not make it look like if someone has not registered for badge or Fedora Account, that we don't want to talk to him. If you start the conversation with "Sign in!" it kinda looks scary.
Usually there are quite a lot of Fedorians at FOSDEM, I think we can make it easier to join the booth, if we will be more open about joining. For example let's have a schedule printed at the booth and let people randomly running around to sign on sight for particular time slots - hour or two of booth work. I think it would be nice experience for some of those Fedora users, who don't have time or desire to commit to the entire event. Let them sign for just a particular hour - it would be easier for them to participate, it would be easier for others to find them.
What do we need to do to get these folks on board? I am happy to do a social for people who work the booth - is that incentive to find those folks?
For just a random participant at a conference, who is not a famous kernel maintainer or even speaker, it could be hard to find a crowd to talk to. Even when there is 8000 people around - you don't connect to them. So my idea is that booth needs to be such a connector. (I personally use it for that) So my idea is not about us going somewhere to socialize, but for making booth the socializing place of its own.
In practice I see it somewhat like this:
- we get a banner with huge letters "open hours" or "ask me about" or
"Fedora meeting point"
This could be a dedicated banner or simply an A3 paper pinned on top of existing banner with some tape, whatever works, but the bigger the better.
Now there should be three columns: time slot, name/fas and topics. And there should be a pen. And any Fedora contributor can sign himself in a time slot.
- week before the event we announce the Fosdem Open Hours on
fedora-devel@ and suggest people to sign in for time slots in advance
They don't have to present their projects, they don't have to be open source "celebrities", they don't have to be Ambassadors, they just need to talk about Fedora for an hour. Meet other users.
- we can also reach out to Fedora-related FOSDEM speakers directly and
suggest them to have a "follow-up" Q&A hour at the booth after their talk
When I do a talk at a conference, these follow-up questions are the most interesting part of it, and 5 minutes after the talk are usually not enough. Then I think it is a great opportunity for a speaker to extend the Q&A session and have a dedicated place for it.
- let Fedora contributors sign in for time slot on site, while they
are passing by.
At huge conferences there is always a time when you don't know what to do, because the room you wanted to get in was overcrowded, or you have a break in your schedule, or whatever. So let people come to the booth during that time and announce themselves and work as Fedora Ambassador for a bit.
For those who have signed, we shouldn't promise the only on-topic questions and deep meaningful discussions, we should promote it as a "meet the crowd" thing. The topics should work as possible conversation starters, but no one should be limited to them. If it happens that you end up discussing the specific pull-request you are reviewing - it is awesome, but if it just an hour of talking about "why Fedora", while you've signed with the "kernel message bus" topic
- that should be totally ok too.
Optionally:
- design special t-shirts for those who signed in and came, like
"Fosdem 2018 Fedora AMA"
Now there might be problems:
- no one wants to participate
Maybe this idea doesn't work and people are actually quite busy and have more of the interesting stuff to do at a conference than I think. Then we just populate the open hours list with some inputs from the Ambassadors themselves. We are Fedora contributors as well. So we can put our names and our topics, and this will also help us to organize Ambassador shifts in a better way.
- inexperienced people at the booth
We always need at least one experienced ambassador to be at the booth, coordinating those who came temporarily. In the end it is the Ambassador who is responsible for the booth equipment, swag and so on.
- space at the booth
Currently we don't have much space near the booth stand, and it sometimes gets overcrowded, so that people who talk don't let others to get the swag. We need to optimize a space a bit. I think if we don't clutter it with clothes and boxes we can setup a dedicated standing corner for talking which would be on the side of a table. May be get a barstool in that corner as well.
Feel free to discuss and disagree :)
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Count me in :) I'd like to help with the Distributions Devroom.
Cheers, Jona
On 11/03/2017 02:30 PM, Brian Exelbierd wrote:
A flash of lightning and *boom* this thread is back.
<Now with more top posting>
Aleksandra, is coordinating the FOSDEM event something you're interested in? I'll be there with the Distributions Devroom and would be happy to help out. It'd be great if some folks in Fedora want to help with the devroom so I can go to lunch/toilet/etc :)
regards,
bex
On Thu, Sep 28, 2017, at 10:44 AM, Aleksandra Fedorova wrote:
Hi,
On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 5:29 PM, Brian Exelbierd bex@pobox.com wrote:
This is great, however I don't want there to not be a badge. The badge gives us some data value in fedmsg, so let's keep it but not push it heavily.
I am not against the badge, it is a nice feature, but just let's not make it look like if someone has not registered for badge or Fedora Account, that we don't want to talk to him. If you start the conversation with "Sign in!" it kinda looks scary.
Usually there are quite a lot of Fedorians at FOSDEM, I think we can make it easier to join the booth, if we will be more open about joining. For example let's have a schedule printed at the booth and let people randomly running around to sign on sight for particular time slots - hour or two of booth work. I think it would be nice experience for some of those Fedora users, who don't have time or desire to commit to the entire event. Let them sign for just a particular hour - it would be easier for them to participate, it would be easier for others to find them.
What do we need to do to get these folks on board? I am happy to do a social for people who work the booth - is that incentive to find those folks?
For just a random participant at a conference, who is not a famous kernel maintainer or even speaker, it could be hard to find a crowd to talk to. Even when there is 8000 people around - you don't connect to them. So my idea is that booth needs to be such a connector. (I personally use it for that) So my idea is not about us going somewhere to socialize, but for making booth the socializing place of its own.
In practice I see it somewhat like this:
- we get a banner with huge letters "open hours" or "ask me about" or
"Fedora meeting point"
This could be a dedicated banner or simply an A3 paper pinned on top of existing banner with some tape, whatever works, but the bigger the better.
Now there should be three columns: time slot, name/fas and topics. And there should be a pen. And any Fedora contributor can sign himself in a time slot.
- week before the event we announce the Fosdem Open Hours on
fedora-devel@ and suggest people to sign in for time slots in advance
They don't have to present their projects, they don't have to be open source "celebrities", they don't have to be Ambassadors, they just need to talk about Fedora for an hour. Meet other users.
- we can also reach out to Fedora-related FOSDEM speakers directly and
suggest them to have a "follow-up" Q&A hour at the booth after their talk
When I do a talk at a conference, these follow-up questions are the most interesting part of it, and 5 minutes after the talk are usually not enough. Then I think it is a great opportunity for a speaker to extend the Q&A session and have a dedicated place for it.
- let Fedora contributors sign in for time slot on site, while they
are passing by.
At huge conferences there is always a time when you don't know what to do, because the room you wanted to get in was overcrowded, or you have a break in your schedule, or whatever. So let people come to the booth during that time and announce themselves and work as Fedora Ambassador for a bit.
For those who have signed, we shouldn't promise the only on-topic questions and deep meaningful discussions, we should promote it as a "meet the crowd" thing. The topics should work as possible conversation starters, but no one should be limited to them. If it happens that you end up discussing the specific pull-request you are reviewing - it is awesome, but if it just an hour of talking about "why Fedora", while you've signed with the "kernel message bus" topic
- that should be totally ok too.
Optionally:
- design special t-shirts for those who signed in and came, like
"Fosdem 2018 Fedora AMA"
Now there might be problems:
- no one wants to participate
Maybe this idea doesn't work and people are actually quite busy and have more of the interesting stuff to do at a conference than I think. Then we just populate the open hours list with some inputs from the Ambassadors themselves. We are Fedora contributors as well. So we can put our names and our topics, and this will also help us to organize Ambassador shifts in a better way.
- inexperienced people at the booth
We always need at least one experienced ambassador to be at the booth, coordinating those who came temporarily. In the end it is the Ambassador who is responsible for the booth equipment, swag and so on.
- space at the booth
Currently we don't have much space near the booth stand, and it sometimes gets overcrowded, so that people who talk don't let others to get the swag. We need to optimize a space a bit. I think if we don't clutter it with clothes and boxes we can setup a dedicated standing corner for talking which would be on the side of a table. May be get a barstool in that corner as well.
Feel free to discuss and disagree :)
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I can help too if required.
On Sun, Dec 3, 2017 at 3:34 AM, Jona Azizaj jonaazizaj@gmail.com wrote:
Count me in :) I'd like to help with the Distributions Devroom.
Cheers, Jona
On 11/03/2017 02:30 PM, Brian Exelbierd wrote:
A flash of lightning and *boom* this thread is back.
<Now with more top posting>
Aleksandra, is coordinating the FOSDEM event something you're interested in? I'll be there with the Distributions Devroom and would be happy to help out. It'd be great if some folks in Fedora want to help with the devroom so I can go to lunch/toilet/etc :)
regards,
bex
On Thu, Sep 28, 2017, at 10:44 AM, Aleksandra Fedorova wrote:
Hi,
On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 5:29 PM, Brian Exelbierd bex@pobox.com wrote:
This is great, however I don't want there to not be a badge. The badge gives us some data value in fedmsg, so let's keep it but not push it heavily.
I am not against the badge, it is a nice feature, but just let's not make it look like if someone has not registered for badge or Fedora Account, that we don't want to talk to him. If you start the conversation with "Sign in!" it kinda looks scary.
Usually there are quite a lot of Fedorians at FOSDEM, I think we can make it easier to join the booth, if we will be more open about joining. For example let's have a schedule printed at the booth and let people randomly running around to sign on sight for particular time slots - hour or two of booth work. I think it would be nice experience for some of those Fedora users, who don't have time or desire to commit to the entire event. Let them sign for just a particular hour - it would be easier for them to participate, it would be easier for others to find them.
What do we need to do to get these folks on board? I am happy to do a social for people who work the booth - is that incentive to find those folks?
For just a random participant at a conference, who is not a famous kernel maintainer or even speaker, it could be hard to find a crowd to talk to. Even when there is 8000 people around - you don't connect to them. So my idea is that booth needs to be such a connector. (I personally use it for that) So my idea is not about us going somewhere to socialize, but for making booth the socializing place of its own.
In practice I see it somewhat like this:
- we get a banner with huge letters "open hours" or "ask me about" or
"Fedora meeting point"
This could be a dedicated banner or simply an A3 paper pinned on top of existing banner with some tape, whatever works, but the bigger the better.
Now there should be three columns: time slot, name/fas and topics. And there should be a pen. And any Fedora contributor can sign himself in a time slot.
- week before the event we announce the Fosdem Open Hours on
fedora-devel@ and suggest people to sign in for time slots in advance
They don't have to present their projects, they don't have to be open source "celebrities", they don't have to be Ambassadors, they just need to talk about Fedora for an hour. Meet other users.
- we can also reach out to Fedora-related FOSDEM speakers directly and
suggest them to have a "follow-up" Q&A hour at the booth after their talk
When I do a talk at a conference, these follow-up questions are the most interesting part of it, and 5 minutes after the talk are usually not enough. Then I think it is a great opportunity for a speaker to extend the Q&A session and have a dedicated place for it.
- let Fedora contributors sign in for time slot on site, while they
are passing by.
At huge conferences there is always a time when you don't know what to do, because the room you wanted to get in was overcrowded, or you have a break in your schedule, or whatever. So let people come to the booth during that time and announce themselves and work as Fedora Ambassador for a bit.
For those who have signed, we shouldn't promise the only on-topic questions and deep meaningful discussions, we should promote it as a "meet the crowd" thing. The topics should work as possible conversation starters, but no one should be limited to them. If it happens that you end up discussing the specific pull-request you are reviewing - it is awesome, but if it just an hour of talking about "why Fedora", while you've signed with the "kernel message bus" topic
- that should be totally ok too.
Optionally:
- design special t-shirts for those who signed in and came, like
"Fosdem 2018 Fedora AMA"
Now there might be problems:
- no one wants to participate
Maybe this idea doesn't work and people are actually quite busy and have more of the interesting stuff to do at a conference than I think. Then we just populate the open hours list with some inputs from the Ambassadors themselves. We are Fedora contributors as well. So we can put our names and our topics, and this will also help us to organize Ambassador shifts in a better way.
- inexperienced people at the booth
We always need at least one experienced ambassador to be at the booth, coordinating those who came temporarily. In the end it is the Ambassador who is responsible for the booth equipment, swag and so on.
- space at the booth
Currently we don't have much space near the booth stand, and it sometimes gets overcrowded, so that people who talk don't let others to get the swag. We need to optimize a space a bit. I think if we don't clutter it with clothes and boxes we can setup a dedicated standing corner for talking which would be on the side of a table. May be get a barstool in that corner as well.
Feel free to discuss and disagree :)
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