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by Senthil Kumar 18 Jun '09

18 Jun '09

i need help to work on extended desktop in fedora core

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Re: [Design-team] The Theme
by brian hurren 18 Jun '09

18 Jun '09

I was just thinking in the long run weather it would just make it quicker to find images if we had a collection of images or at least a collection of links to images. don't need to waste time looking for stuff. (looking for things is time consuming). --- On Fri, 19/6/09, Nicu Buculei <nicu_fedora(a)nicubunu.ro> wrote: From: Nicu Buculei <nicu_fedora(a)nicubunu.ro> Subject: Re: [Design-team] The Theme To: "Fedora Design Team" <design-team(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> Received: Friday, 19 June, 2009, 2:43 AM On 06/18/2009 05:27 PM, brian hurren wrote: > what if we create our own repository of open source clip art containing > useful elements that can be modified and cut up as needed. we can start > searching the net and contibuting our own creations now. Sort of like a > scrap book. Why run our own? Such a project may run on our infrastructure, but is better, IMO, to be an independent, upstream project so everyone is encouraged to contribute and to use the images. Pretty much like the Open Clip Art Library (openclipart.org) but with raster images, not SVG. It can use even the same infrastructure, ccHost. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ _______________________________________________ design-team mailing list design-team(a)lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team

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Re: [Design-team] The Theme
by brian hurren 18 Jun '09

18 Jun '09

what if we create our own repository of open source clip art containing useful elements that can be modified and cut up as needed. we can start searching the net and contibuting our own creations now. Sort of like a scrap book. --- On Fri, 19/6/09, Máirín Duffy <mairin(a)linuxgrrl.com> wrote: From: Máirín Duffy <mairin(a)linuxgrrl.com> Subject: Re: [Design-team] The Theme To: "Fedora Design Team" <design-team(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> Received: Friday, 19 June, 2009, 1:55 AM On Thu, 2009-06-18 at 09:42 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: > On 06/17/2009 08:39 PM, Máirín Duffy wrote: > > I wonder if we could take an approach instead of creating the base image > > from scratch this time, to go out and search the best of openly-licensed > > content and try to provide a thematic selection? That way there is much > > And have no default? What we will do, run a wizard at the first login so > the user can chose his theme? We still need a default. We could pick one of the ones we select to be the default one, but have others along the same theme available as options. Adding another dialog I think isn't a good idea. > > > less pressure on us I think.... because the creative process is not > > always so consistent in terms of time/effort involved, if we make a > > selection of things already available perhaps we can deliver on a more > > predictable schedule? (and get some publicity/exposure to artists who > > aren't already on the team but already 'get' open licensing - maybe it > > will help us convince them to join our effort :) ) > > Honestly, I am not a big fan of this approach, is like us dropping the > ball and acknowledging we are not able to create ourselves something > good enough. Well it doesn't mean that we couldn't, for example, take a sourced image we decide should be the default and manipulate it or make some changes to it. Also, we'd still have to create from scratch all the various banners and splashes, etc. Or it could even be we select something we think is awesome and openly-licensed and use it heavily as inspiration, but we can still create an original work. To be honest, I'm just really exhausted having everything be last-minute and involve so much effort in a short-notice period of time. The problem is, right now, as team lead the buck stops with me so if we're not ready it's my responsibility to drop everything in my life and spend late nights coming up with something. If we didn't have Samuele helping out the past couple of releases we might have something horrible like the F9 background again - but at the same time we can't lean on Samuele all the time either. It seems like it would be nice, at least for just one release, to take a breather, try out an approach like this, and if we decide we don't like it then there is no reason we shouldn't abandon it. The main problem for me is that every time the topic of release art comes up, I don't think 'fun' and 'cool', I think 'pain' and get a feeling of dread and despair :( And that's not cool. And after going through all that hard work and time, still we get negative comments (and I understand we can't satisfy everyone, but that on top of having to work so hard and not have much fun, makes it even less enjoyable.) I feel that this problem should be addressed so we can make theming fun again, but I'm not sure how. This was the idea I came up with but I'm very open to other proposed solutions. Is this fair or am I being overly dramatic? > > > The theme that unifies the selected images could be derived from the > > codename. It would be great to have a whole cohesive set of images for > > users to choose from too instead of just one like we've always done. > > Let's see the codename, but I am skeptical we will be able to find > enough quality, Free images for an entire set with different personas. We don't have to have so many. We can aim for, 2 general-purpose, 1 for pink-pony lovers like me, and 1 to appeal to children. Three personas, four images, to me this seems quite do-able? > > > This would still involve some effort from us too, to convert/crop photos > > to the ratios we support and whatnot. > > > > We could have a competitive element to determine which one of the > > selections is the wallpaper by default? > > > > It might be cool too, to work up a list of personas, each of which we > > should try to aim a wallpaper at. For example, the Windows XP base set > > of wallpapers has the flower and the pink wallpaper for girls... > > I hope we will do something with wallpaper extras for F12. I know. How did we fail on this in F11, just not enough time / preparation? Do we need a packager to help? ~m _______________________________________________ design-team mailing list design-team(a)lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team

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Re: [Design-team] Inkscape still broken in Fedora 11
by Nicu Buculei 18 Jun '09

18 Jun '09

On 06/16/2009 06:54 PM, Lubomir Rintel wrote: > On Tue, 2009-06-16 at 17:23 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: >> On 06/16/2009 04:19 PM, Valent Turkovic wrote: >>> Here is upstream bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/273961 >> >> So yes, the bug is fixed upstream (in the 0.47 prerelease). We have in >> Fedora a slightly older svn build, but as soon as the maintainer will >> push a new build, I expect it will be gone. > > Right. As we speak, a new package of today's (post pre0) snapshot is > being build and it will be submitted to testing repository (for f10 and > f11) today. A stable update won't happen until 0.47 is released (I'll > update f11 as well as f10 then). Valent, this do the trick for you? yum -y --enablerepo=updates-testing update inkscape -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/

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Re: [Design-team] The Theme
by Storari Samuele 18 Jun '09

18 Jun '09

----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicu Buculei" <nicu_fedora(a)nicubunu.ro> To: "Fedora Design Team" <design-team(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> Sent: Thursday, 18 June, 2009 08:42:02 GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / Bern / Rome / Stockholm / Vienna Subject: Re: [Design-team] The Theme On 06/17/2009 08:39 PM, Máirín Duffy wrote: > I wonder if we could take an approach instead of creating the base image > from scratch this time, to go out and search the best of openly-licensed > content and try to provide a thematic selection? That way there is much And have no default? What we will do, run a wizard at the first login so the user can chose his theme? > less pressure on us I think.... because the creative process is not > always so consistent in terms of time/effort involved, if we make a > selection of things already available perhaps we can deliver on a more > predictable schedule? (and get some publicity/exposure to artists who > aren't already on the team but already 'get' open licensing - maybe it > will help us convince them to join our effort :) ) Honestly, I am not a big fan of this approach, is like us dropping the ball and acknowledging we are not able to create ourselves something good enough. +1 I hope we will not stop create, and, I think we may work again in the contest mode, I know we have some trouble last time, but the positive side was there were a lot of themes presented and not only one, I think the monotheme process was a big fail; in my opinion a lot of designer don't see the opportunity to express themselves so they didn't partecipate in the community work... me first ;) making it a work of few, when we can have a work of a lot :D > The theme that unifies the selected images could be derived from the > codename. It would be great to have a whole cohesive set of images for > users to choose from too instead of just one like we've always done. Let's see the codename, but I am skeptical we will be able to find enough quality, Free images for an entire set with different personas. > This would still involve some effort from us too, to convert/crop photos > to the ratios we support and whatnot. > > We could have a competitive element to determine which one of the > selections is the wallpaper by default? > > It might be cool too, to work up a list of personas, each of which we > should try to aim a wallpaper at. For example, the Windows XP base set > of wallpapers has the flower and the pink wallpaper for girls... I hope we will do something with wallpaper extras for F12. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ _______________________________________________ design-team mailing list design-team(a)lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team -- Samuele Storari Art Director Byte-Code srl mobile: +39 347 50 798 32 office: +39 02 9840047 http://www.byte-code.com

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Open source alternative to Adobe Flash - synfig
by Valent Turkovic 17 Jun '09

17 Jun '09

http://synfig.org/Gallery#Videos This synfig demos look amazing, any plans to package it for Fedora? -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic

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FWD Re: Fedora Artwork idea/request
by Frank Murphy 17 Jun '09

17 Jun '09

On 17/06/09 05:33, Kam Leo wrote: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2009-June/msg02003.html > If any of the design team is reading this thread I have a request. > Please provide single disc artwork images as was done for past Fedora > releases. I have no desire to print both 32 and 64 bit disc labels at > the same time. I have a printer which prints directly on to CD/DVD > media one disc at a time. An editable single_disc.svg file would also > work. I can then edit the text to suit my needs; e.g. multi-disc > install CD (1 of 6, 2 of 6.. ) or Install DVD instead of Live DVD.

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Inkscape still broken in Fedora 11
by Valent Turkovic 16 Jun '09

16 Jun '09

FYI, I have posted this video a while ago: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9aiLKXLGPo And this bug is still present in latest Fedora 11, the strange thing is that inscape works if you have bitstream-vera-sans-fonts package installed, but try yum remove bitstream-vera-fonts (F10) yum remove bitstream-vera-sans-fonts (F11) Now try to type some text and change it's font in inkscape... You can do this as a prank if somebody leaves his desktop unattended just remove bitstream-vera-fonts package and ask him to do something in inkscape with text ;) I'll report this bug to fedora and ask that bitstream-vera-fonts gets installed as a dependency for inkscape. Here is upstream bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/273961 -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic

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IDEA: F11 fan t-shirt
by Joost Elfering 16 Jun '09

16 Jun '09

i just had an idea for a fedora 11 fan/fun. i was just fooling around with the name Leonidas and found that the abs would make a hilarious t-shirt for all "us" non-workout IT guys. actually I snatched the idea of a t-shirt that jack black wore once. anyways, not an official t-shirt and not worked out. i just wanted a doodle to show the idea. so what do you think? see it as a fun object. ~yope

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another new person poking around
by angella inzinga 16 Jun '09

16 Jun '09

Hi! My name is Angie, I'm in the US. Most of my experience has been in fine art and in the past few years I've slowly been learning digital art. I was able to ditch the photoshop habit and now use GIMP for the majority of what I do. I'm starting to get a grip on inkscape. I joined the fedora art flickr community, and I'm housegirl_photos<http://www.flickr.com/photos/30991136@N04/>there. As far as applicable skills, in the past I've mostly done fliers and posters for people, and I enjoy that a lot. My GIMP is somewhat strong, and my inkscape is weak but improving. I've never met sodipodi before seeing it mentioned in the art team mentors list of expertise. I have lots of ideas, many of them very bad. But enough are workable. Most of the time. I try and be gentle when I offer critique, but when receiving it I really prefer to the point honesty. I don't need warm fuzzy from someone who is trying to help make me better. As for where to start now that I'm here, it's a huge environment and half the time I"m not even really sure I'm looking in the right places... I would not be offended if anyone points me at something I probably missed, or just flat out tells me what to do until I get my legs under me! Thanks so much! Angie

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