design-team July 2011

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Introduce Yourself Task
by william staud 25 Jul '11

25 Jul '11

Hello, my name is Tyler Staud. I am currently a student at Byron P. Steele High School. I will be graduating next year and plan on going to college and majoring in some sort of design program. At the moment, I have a broad range of experience. I am currently the Photo Editor/Designer on my school newspaper; that may not sound like much but my school currently has 2000+ students. I handled everything from cleaning photos to manipulating them as well as designing layouts and modifying layouts. This coming year I plan on moving to Sport's Editor. Which brings me to my next area of expertise. I decided to make the move to Sport's Editor because I currently own and operate a website. Link to website: steelefootball.com I had originally created the website using HTML and CSS. Just a few months ago I made the move to Flash. Every inch of that website (photos, designs, videos, etc) was all created by myself. I am currently in the process of moving back to HTML, due to the lack of user friendliness with Flash. Many of my users can not view the website because their computer screen's resolution can not cover the entire websites resolution. Once I make the move back to HTML I plan on adding Facebook Connect as well as some other cool features. I believe I could be of some help with Fedora's projects. I am extremely experienced with Adobe Photoshop, Premiere, After Effects and Flash. (I have my PC setup to dual boot Windows 7 and Fedora). I can also create advertisements of all types as well as effectively use them thanks to my experience in Newspaper. I decided to volunteer my help to Fedora because I love the simplicity of this Distro. Ubuntu, Linux Mint and Puppy Linux did not quiet seem to cut it for me. But I have noticed with simplicity comes learning, which is the best part of Linux in my eyes. I am not as experienced as most with Linux; but I will learn. My experience with Linux will not effect my design though. I can still create any design in Windows (for now) and make use of them in Linux. Thank you taking the time to read this and I hope you guys can find a few areas I can be useful in. If you would like me to create and send some sort of design as a reference of my experience I will be more then happy to attempt it. Tyler Staud Sources (some of my work) Youtube videos: http://www.youtube.com/steeleknightfootball Website: www.steelefootball.com Ways to get ahold of me: Email: xconstaud(a)gmail.com Phone:419 388 8021 Facebook: facebook.com/xconstaud

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Question about logos
by william staud 23 Jul '11

23 Jul '11

I was reading up on the logo guidelines earlier because I need to obtain a fedora_logo for ticket #196. I am slightly confused about one part. Does the design team have to go through logos to obtain a logo? If not, where can we get the logos? Sorry if this isn't the place to ask. I'm not entirely sure about the email rules and whatnot. Thanks,

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Introducing Myself
by Sayantan Datta 21 Jul '11

21 Jul '11

Hi everyone, I am Sayantan Datta. I am a sophomore in N. I. T. Durgapur, India and i am studying Computer Engineering. I am a hobbyist photographer, and my blog is http://sayantanfoto.blogspot.com/ <http://sayantanfoto.blogspot.com/> As for designing, till date i have used adobe products and GIMP, for my needs and edits.currently i am a designer for the college tech clubs for their annual fests and magazines. My computer has some weird issues with fedora 15, so i have no option but to stick with fedora 14. I think i can put in a lot of data for the supplementary photographs which comes along with the newer versions of fedora. I am also equally interested in designing, which till date was mainly based to vector designs. I surely hope i can learn in the process and also help this team with the best that i can do. Sayantan Datta 2nd Year B.Tech N.I.T Durgapur Mobile : +91 90888 55809 facebook page : https://www.facebook.com/kenzo.rulz

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Meeting Minutes, July 21 (F16 wallpapers, supplemental, FUDcon designs)
by Máirín Duffy 21 Jul '11

21 Jul '11

<zodbot> Meeting ended Thu Jul 21 18:59:03 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . <zodbot> Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-design/2011-07-21/fedora-design.201… <zodbot> Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-design/2011-07-21/fedora-design.201… <zodbot> Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-design/2011-07-21/fedora-design.201… ~m

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Reminder: team meeting tomorrow
by Máirín Duffy 21 Jul '11

21 Jul '11

Just a reminder that we're having a meeting tomorrow. #fedora-design, 2 PM ET / 1800 UTC. ~m

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Re: [Design-team] Newly-expanded Fedora logo usage guidelines
by Máirín Duffy 19 Jul '11

19 Jul '11

Hi, I apologize for breaking the thread as my Fedora mail is a bit broken ATM... > David Nalley david at gnsa.us > Wed Jul 20 01:41:02 UTC 2011 > 2011/7/19 Máirín Duffy <duffy at fedoraproject.org>: > >. As outlined in the guidelines, you are supposed to request > permission for > > your particular usage of the logo in writing to logo at > fedoraproject.org. > > The above seems to conflict with my understanding of the trademark > guidelines from: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal:Trademark_guidelines > So this is a good point. I am not a lawyer nor any kind of legal expert, and I do not think this is the correct place to discuss the particulars of Fedora's trademark guidelines and we'd probably all be better served if I hadn't said anything in the first place and had just redirected to Fedora legal. Please insert, 'if not explicitly granted by the trademark guidelines' to the end of the quoted sentence to understand my intent. The point that Christoph made was: "Somebody could just violate the guidelines and declare it a sublogo." The point I was trying to make to allay this concern is that following the guidelines on the Logo/Usage Guidelines page does not automagically grant you trademark rights. The trademark guidelines page does *in some situations* but there are many situations in which it does not. So you can't make a Fedora Hot Dog Haters logo using the sublogo guidelines and be okay. The 'Fedora Hot Dog Haters' example given is not explicitly granted in the trademark guidelines wiki page. Here is some language that could support this claim, with varying levels of hilarity: - "the use is only in connection with promoting the Fedora Project or Fedora products" I don't understand how a group of people sharing stories of hate about hot dogs promotes the Fedora project or 'products.' - "the use is not disparaging to Red Hat, the Fedora Project or their products" - the hot dog is an unofficial meat product of Fedora and having a haters group is disparaging to it - "the official logo usage guidelines are strictly observed" - the official logo guidelines state that the groups sublogo is meant for usage by groups within Fedora, and the applications logo is for use for applications running on Fedora's infrastructure. If your application isn't running on Fedora's infrastructure, you can't use that sublogo. You could feasibly consider a hot dog haters group a 'group' within Fedora as it is not an official Fedora SIG or team. I suppose if such a group went through the SIG creation process such a logo might fly. I do not know if we have a canonical group of SIGs/teams within Fedora, but my guess is the list of groups in FAS would be a good start at one. Certainly if no such group exists you have no business creating such a logo. We could modify the language in the logo usage guidelines to explicitly state you must be creating a logo for an established SIG or team within Fedora if you use the 'groups' sublogo. Would that help? > Specifically, there are a number of situations which do not require > permission to use Fedora®, the Fedora word design, the Infinity design > logo, Fedora Remix, and the Fedora Remix word design, either > separately or in combination. Yep and as stated above there are a number of situation that do. > Am I misunderstanding the intent of what's meant by request permission > for a particular usage of the logo? > I fear that if permission from logo at fp.o is required above and > beyond > the levels established at the trademark guidelines, I've frequently > run afoul of that requirement. For instance, the logo that appears at: > http://www.southeastlinuxfest.org/sponsor/fedora likely originated > from me (although derived from the svgs) in years past, and fwiu, > falls within the Trademark Guidelines no-permission-necessary section, > but I don't recall asking permission for it. Christoph and I were specifically talking about *modifying* the marks. E.g., if you take a sublogo design where the name of the application is meant to be filled in something like: () fedora BUILDSYSTEM () fedora UPDATE SYSTEM and do something like this to it: () fedora HANKY THE HOTDOG You're taking a trademarked mark and combining it with 'hanky the hotdog', who has little to do with Fedora. So just to restate another way: if you take unmodified (besides say colorspace and size) logomarks such as the Fedora full logo, the logo mark, the logo text, or any of the four foundations graphics, and use them in a manner explicitly approved by the trademark guidelines you are fine. There is no question your usage of the Fedora logo was fine. Where it gets hairy is if you decide to take the FUDcon logo and make a % fudcon HANKY'S BASEMENT logo out of it, following the aesthetic guidelines but getting Hanky's basement involved when there is nor ever will be an official 'FUDcon Hanky's basement' event. > To more succinctly state my question: If I comply with the Trademark > guidelines (either through one of the no-permission-needed exceptions, > or with an explicit agreement) and I use the trademark(s) in > accordance with the usage guidelines wrt colors, spacing, etc., what > additional permission is needed? Great question. If you are filling in a 'template' logo there are some additional requirements: - If you are using the 'FUDcon' logo template, you may only fill in the template with the location of an actual FUDcon. While we may like a FUDcon Aruba, if it's not a real event, you shouldn't be making a logo for it. - If you are using the Fedora sublogo for applications, you should only fill in the template with the name of an application that actually exists and is hosted on Fedora's infrastructure. - If you are using the Fedora sublogo for groups, you should only fill in the template with the name of a Fedora SIG or team that actually exists. Anyway, I am not comfortable having this discussion on this list and would like to request again that anyone concerned here take their concerns to the Fedora Board or to Fedora legal. Thanks in advance, I very much appreciate it. Hope the above helps. Cheers, ~m

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Newly-expanded Fedora logo usage guidelines
by Máirín Duffy 19 Jul '11

19 Jul '11

Hey folks, Thanks in huge part to Ian Weller's meticulous work in the care and feeding of Fedora's branding, we've got a major Fedora logo usage guidelines update ready on the wiki. The guidelines have been expanded and improved in a number of ways, including: - Coverage of the Fedora application and group sublogos. - Coverage of the Fedora Remix logos. - Coverage of the Fedora Foundations logos. - Downloadable GPL-format palette file of an expanded color palette. - Expanded and illustrated explanation of clear space guidelines throughout the document. - Updated and expanded font usage guidelines. - Overall more explanations, rationale, and other instructions on using the logos. You can read more about the update in a blog post I did: http://blog.linuxgrrl.com/2011/07/19/newly-expanded-fedora-logo-guidelines/ Or you can skulk around stealthily like a ninja right on directly to the new guidelines themselves: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines Cheers, ~m

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Re: [Design-team] Fducon Emea Milan 2011 T-shirt
by Máirín Duffy 18 Jul '11

18 Jul '11

Hi, On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 08:40 +0000, Storari Samuele wrote: > from my last updates the final version of the logo is that: > http://www.2s-design.it/fudcon_milan/fudcon_logo_def.png > > here you can find the SVG source: > http://www.2s-design.it/fudcon_milan/logo_EMEA_fudcon_milan.svg Okay, so keeping in mind our FUDcon logo guidelines have not been live on the Logo/UsageGuidelines wiki page all this time-- We don't typically allow graphics to be integrated into the logo like this. Is this logo final? - If so, I think we should make an exception just this once and have the guidelines live ASAP so it doesn't happen again. - If not, I think we should pull the additional graphics. Thanks, ~m

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Re: [Design-team] oVirt Node Fedora 16 Spin
by Joey Boggs 18 Jul '11

18 Jul '11

On 07/13/2011 01:19 PM, Joey Boggs wrote: > It seems there are some issues with the current Spins approval > process, but to workaround I've been asked to contact each of your > lists to get acks for approval to keep the ball rolling. > > The spins feature page in question is located at: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ovirt_Node_Spin > > For the test plan we are awaiting an upstream commit to virt-manager > to add in a tui version of virt-manager. We plan to showcase that in > the spin as well. This means the test plan will be updated from its > current state. (updated tentatively today) > > For the artwork we have a boot splash screen in the unofficial spins > that we release ourselves on new builds, in the case of a spin this > was an item we are not allowed to change. We'll also be providing > screenshots of the new virt-manager-tui and standalone mode installation. > > If you have any questions please contact me or apevec(a)redhat.com > > Thanks, > Joey Can I get an ACK on the artwork portion of this spin? The only artwork involved was a boot time splash screen. Since nonchrooted changes are forbidden there is no artwork for the spin to be approved. Thanks, Joey

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FUDCon India - Poster (rev A)
by Suchakra 18 Jul '11

18 Jul '11

Hi , According to your suggestions and guidelines on my blogpost [1], I have made another incomplete revision of the poster [2]. Its source is at [3] (I've tried to follow almost all the guidelines you laid out. The lower area is empty just as my mind has been wiped clean of ideas for a while :) Please do something on it if possible. I've CCd it to tatica and design list too. [1] http://suchakra.wordpress.com/2011/07/16/fudcon-india-2011-design-updates-1… [2] http://suchakra.fedorapeople.org/fudcon-designs/poster_fudcon_india_concept… [3] http://suchakra.fedorapeople.org/fudcon-designs/poster_fudcon_india-revA.svg Suchakra

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