On 01/03/2011 01:10 PM, Jef van Schendel wrote:

2010/12/21 Onyeibo Okutwohot@fedoraproject.org:

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Hello(s):)

In October 08, 2010, I submitted a design for ticket #159. Back then, I wanted the team to critique the work. (See follow-up comment #5 at https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/159). The team was focusing on the wallpaper design for F14 at that time and so, nothing much was said about my solution.

I'd like to present it again. I have included the initial mail below as it contains my thoughts on the work at that time. I look forward to your comments.

Hi!

Great work so far, I think. I like it. :)

Thanks

Here are a few suggestions I hope are helpful:

• The fonts: I didn't know you had to use standard typefaces, that's

interesting. I think Bitstream Vera Sans is a good choice though. As for the other ones, I see you used MgOpen Modata there. It might be better to use Cantarell, since that's now what we use for body text. Maybe these svg's were made before we made the switch?

I think so. I realized that from the Gnome-shell mock-up designs. I'll update the svgs and upload that in no distant time.

• Personally I like type A the best, since the top looks more balanced

when the blue air mail object is on the right. As you said though, you should do what's best for actual mailing if that conflicts with what looks better aesthetically. :)

That's what I thought too, but I included version B because I wasn't sure of post office rules concerning "Air Mail" stickers. I gather that their position is immaterial and as such version 'A' remains authentic.

• I like the "Inside" sticker and the little envelopes next to it!

Cute and clear. I am, however, not sure what the little post stamp icons next to 32-bit and 64-bit mean. Is this like a little checkbox the sender can check off? Or are both 32- and 64-bit versions included? If the latter, maybe a small checkmark might be more suitable to tell people "this is what's included".

Well, this was designed for the Freemedia Group and the way we work requires some flexibility. The tick will be supplied by the person sending out the CDs. So, yes ... the stamp shapes are check-boxes. I decided to play with it ... somewhat.

• Regarding the Fedora slogan and info text... It feels a bit crowded

to me, because the amount of text is quite large. I would try to either reduce the text to one or two sentences, or remove the "Freedom, Friends, etc..." completely, leaving more room for the text. If you do include the whole bit though, it may be good to space it up a bit and use paragraphs. It's also usually a good idea to either keep larger amounts of text flushed left instead of centering it all, because the latter makes it harder to read.

I'll consider these suggestions in for the next upload. I've always thought textual content requires collective input. That text was a draft. I hoped someone would come up with something better, ... concise but loaded.

• I'm wondering why you used the full height for the front, but not

for the back (with the large Fedora logo). We could use the space there. Maybe I missed something in the guidelines or your explanation though.

You missed the fold. The artwork will be folded to form the Mailer Jacket. The bit with the Scissors completes the rear section.

If it's not clear what I mean, just tell me and I'll try to put together some examples to explain it better. :)

Small nitpicks:

• Personally I would have put a colon after the "Inside", to make it

clearer that text things next to it are the things that are, well, inside.

Noted. I will implement this.

• I'd remove the quotation marks from the "Freedom, Friends, etc..."

text and not use italics, simply because they're not needed. That's just me, though.

Lets just see what the rest of the team will say.

• At "courtesy of the fedora community close to you!", the word

"Fedora" should be capitalized. I'd also make it normal type instead of bold. It's already smaller and lighter than the text above it to set it apart.

Hope some of this is helpful. Awesome job already. :)

Jef

Sure, I was longing for critique. I got one and I'm encouraged. I was starting to wonder if I got it all wrong.

Regards

Hi,

Just uploaded the updated Freemedia mailer Design. I have implemented suggested changes to the typefaces.

links: ------ https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:Freemedia-mailer.svgz https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:Freemedia-mailer-front.png https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:Freemedia-mailer-front%2Brestrictions.pn... https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:Freemedia-mailer-rear%2Bcover.png

What do you think?

How does a contributor get a space at fedorapeople.org? Is it automatic (when FAS is created) or is there a process? I'm beginning to think I need a place to keep WIPs on-line.

Regards

Hi Oku,

(keeping this in the mailer thread)

On Sat, 2011-01-15 at 23:44 +0100, Onyeibo Oku wrote:

Just uploaded the updated Freemedia mailer Design. I have implemented suggested changes to the typefaces.

links:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:Freemedia-mailer.svgz https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:Freemedia-mailer-front.png https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:Freemedia-mailer-front%2Brestrictions.pn... https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:Freemedia-mailer-rear%2Bcover.png

What do you think?

These look fantastic! I don't see any issues at all. Have you proposed them to the original ticket requestor?

How does a contributor get a space at fedorapeople.org? Is it automatic (when FAS is created) or is there a process? I'm beginning to think I need a place to keep WIPs on-line.

Did you end up figuring this out? If not, poke me on IRC and I'll walk you through it!

~m