Start End Name Tue 09-Mar Tue 30-Mar Prepare wallpaper for Beta Tue 23-Mar Tue 06-Apr Create Count Down Graphic Wed 31-Mar Fri 02-Apr Create Beta Website Banner Wed 31-Mar Wed 31-Mar Package: Beta Wallpaper Thu 01-Apr Thu 01-Apr Beta Project Wide Release Readiness Meeting Tue 06-Apr Tue 06-Apr Beta Release Public Availability Tue 06-Apr Tue 20-Apr Create DVD/CD label and sleeve artwork
On 03/29/2010 05:37 PM, John Poelstra wrote:
Start End Name Tue 09-Mar Tue 30-Mar Prepare wallpaper for Beta
Considering we are way pas the deadline for finalizing the Beta wallpaper and very close to its package deadline, I propose that if we nobody propose an improvement in the next 24 hours, we use for Beta (and most likely final version) with Rocket Trails 2 [1] that was already used for Alpha. According to the feedback I saw it was well received overall with a few small improvement suggestions (shape and color of the trails, number of the stars).
We need to get this milestone done, so we can move forward, for example the various splashes are supposed to be based on it.
[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F13_Artwork#Concepts.2C_WIP_Designs
On Mon, 2010-03-29 at 18:21 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote:
On 03/29/2010 05:37 PM, John Poelstra wrote:
Start End Name Tue 09-Mar Tue 30-Mar Prepare wallpaper for Beta
Considering we are way pas the deadline for finalizing the Beta wallpaper and very close to its package deadline, I propose that if we nobody propose an improvement in the next 24 hours, we use for Beta (and most likely final version) with Rocket Trails 2 [1] that was already used for Alpha. According to the feedback I saw it was well received overall with a few small improvement suggestions (shape and color of the trails, number of the stars).
We need to get this milestone done, so we can move forward, for example the various splashes are supposed to be based on it.
[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F13_Artwork#Concepts.2C_WIP_Designs
I should like to add that the Alpha wallpaper is awesome albeit rather lowish resolution and is missing dual screen versions... Even if we were to go with this version (which would be perfectly fine at least with me, I'm already using it and I like it very much) we'd need to address these issues. IIRC, the standard in past releases were 2048x1536, 1920x1200, 1280x1024 and their dual screen counterparts.
I'm ready to do the packaging work as soon as I have the necessary sources (just one source for all sizes is fine, I can do the cropping/resizing as needed).
Thanks, Martin
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 09:31:49PM +0200, Martin Sourada wrote:
On Mon, 2010-03-29 at 18:21 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote:
On 03/29/2010 05:37 PM, John Poelstra wrote:
Start End Name Tue 09-Mar Tue 30-Mar Prepare wallpaper for Beta
Considering we are way pas the deadline for finalizing the Beta wallpaper and very close to its package deadline, I propose that if we nobody propose an improvement in the next 24 hours, we use for Beta (and most likely final version) with Rocket Trails 2 [1] that was already used for Alpha. According to the feedback I saw it was well received overall with a few small improvement suggestions (shape and color of the trails, number of the stars).
We need to get this milestone done, so we can move forward, for example the various splashes are supposed to be based on it.
[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F13_Artwork#Concepts.2C_WIP_Designs
I should like to add that the Alpha wallpaper is awesome albeit rather lowish resolution and is missing dual screen versions... Even if we were to go with this version (which would be perfectly fine at least with me, I'm already using it and I like it very much) we'd need to address these issues. IIRC, the standard in past releases were 2048x1536, 1920x1200, 1280x1024 and their dual screen counterparts.
I'm ready to do the packaging work as soon as I have the necessary sources (just one source for all sizes is fine, I can do the cropping/resizing as needed).
Currently we need the firstboot and anaconda banners, which could be based off the Alpha wallpaper.
If we want to take another stab at the wallpaper for post-Beta/GA, I know that Mairin Duffy had collected some constructive critiques:
http://mairin.wordpress.com/2010/03/11/fedora-13s-artwork-need-your-help-for...
* Nicu, are you game to try addressing some of these critiques with a new wallpaper?
* Is there someone who would be willing to make the required firstboot/anaconda banners? There are only a couple of these needed, and the current versions (meaning the sizes and composition needed) can be found in:
/usr/share/firstboot/themes/fedora-constantine/ /usr/share/anaconda/pixmaps/
Paul,
I can try to do the firstboot/anaconda banners :)
// Kris Thomsen
2010/3/29 Paul W. Frields stickster@gmail.com:
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 09:31:49PM +0200, Martin Sourada wrote:
On Mon, 2010-03-29 at 18:21 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote:
On 03/29/2010 05:37 PM, John Poelstra wrote:
Start End Name Tue 09-Mar Tue 30-Mar Prepare wallpaper for Beta
Considering we are way pas the deadline for finalizing the Beta wallpaper and very close to its package deadline, I propose that if we nobody propose an improvement in the next 24 hours, we use for Beta (and most likely final version) with Rocket Trails 2 [1] that was already used for Alpha. According to the feedback I saw it was well received overall with a few small improvement suggestions (shape and color of the trails, number of the stars).
We need to get this milestone done, so we can move forward, for example the various splashes are supposed to be based on it.
[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F13_Artwork#Concepts.2C_WIP_Designs
I should like to add that the Alpha wallpaper is awesome albeit rather lowish resolution and is missing dual screen versions... Even if we were to go with this version (which would be perfectly fine at least with me, I'm already using it and I like it very much) we'd need to address these issues. IIRC, the standard in past releases were 2048x1536, 1920x1200, 1280x1024 and their dual screen counterparts.
I'm ready to do the packaging work as soon as I have the necessary sources (just one source for all sizes is fine, I can do the cropping/resizing as needed).
Currently we need the firstboot and anaconda banners, which could be based off the Alpha wallpaper.
If we want to take another stab at the wallpaper for post-Beta/GA, I know that Mairin Duffy had collected some constructive critiques:
http://mairin.wordpress.com/2010/03/11/fedora-13s-artwork-need-your-help-for...
- Nicu, are you game to try addressing some of these critiques with a
new wallpaper?
- Is there someone who would be willing to make the required
firstboot/anaconda banners? There are only a couple of these needed, and the current versions (meaning the sizes and composition needed) can be found in:
/usr/share/firstboot/themes/fedora-constantine/ /usr/share/anaconda/pixmaps/
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Does someone have the original *.svg files for this?
// Kris
2010/3/30 Kris Thomsen lakristho@gmail.com:
Paul,
I can try to do the firstboot/anaconda banners :)
// Kris Thomsen
2010/3/29 Paul W. Frields stickster@gmail.com:
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 09:31:49PM +0200, Martin Sourada wrote:
On Mon, 2010-03-29 at 18:21 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote:
On 03/29/2010 05:37 PM, John Poelstra wrote:
Start End Name Tue 09-Mar Tue 30-Mar Prepare wallpaper for Beta
Considering we are way pas the deadline for finalizing the Beta wallpaper and very close to its package deadline, I propose that if we nobody propose an improvement in the next 24 hours, we use for Beta (and most likely final version) with Rocket Trails 2 [1] that was already used for Alpha. According to the feedback I saw it was well received overall with a few small improvement suggestions (shape and color of the trails, number of the stars).
We need to get this milestone done, so we can move forward, for example the various splashes are supposed to be based on it.
[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F13_Artwork#Concepts.2C_WIP_Designs
I should like to add that the Alpha wallpaper is awesome albeit rather lowish resolution and is missing dual screen versions... Even if we were to go with this version (which would be perfectly fine at least with me, I'm already using it and I like it very much) we'd need to address these issues. IIRC, the standard in past releases were 2048x1536, 1920x1200, 1280x1024 and their dual screen counterparts.
I'm ready to do the packaging work as soon as I have the necessary sources (just one source for all sizes is fine, I can do the cropping/resizing as needed).
Currently we need the firstboot and anaconda banners, which could be based off the Alpha wallpaper.
If we want to take another stab at the wallpaper for post-Beta/GA, I know that Mairin Duffy had collected some constructive critiques:
http://mairin.wordpress.com/2010/03/11/fedora-13s-artwork-need-your-help-for...
- Nicu, are you game to try addressing some of these critiques with a
new wallpaper?
- Is there someone who would be willing to make the required
firstboot/anaconda banners? There are only a couple of these needed, and the current versions (meaning the sizes and composition needed) can be found in:
/usr/share/firstboot/themes/fedora-constantine/ /usr/share/anaconda/pixmaps/
-- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ Where open source multiplies: http://opensource.com _______________________________________________ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
On Tue, 2010-03-30 at 00:32 +0200, Kris Thomsen wrote:
Does someone have the original *.svg files for this?
They're linked to on the F13 artwork page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F13_Artwork
Specifically: http://fedorapeople.org/groups/designteam/Resources/Fedora%20Release% 20Themes/F13/Alpha/Sky%20Trails/
~m
Mairin, I meant the original svg files for the pics that Paul refered to :)
2010/3/30 Máirín Duffy duffy@fedoraproject.org:
On Tue, 2010-03-30 at 00:32 +0200, Kris Thomsen wrote:
Does someone have the original *.svg files for this?
They're linked to on the F13 artwork page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F13_Artwork
Specifically: http://fedorapeople.org/groups/designteam/Resources/Fedora%20Release% 20Themes/F13/Alpha/Sky%20Trails/
~m
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On 03/30/2010 01:50 PM, Kris Thomsen wrote:
Mairin, I meant the original svg files for the pics that Paul refered to :)
Those are the files... the final image is assembled with GIMP, SVG version is available only for the trails.
But you can use the XCF files for banners, what is needed is mostly some good cropping/resize work.
2010/3/30 Máirín Duffy:
On Tue, 2010-03-30 at 00:32 +0200, Kris Thomsen wrote:
Does someone have the original *.svg files for this?
They're linked to on the F13 artwork page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F13_Artwork
Specifically: http://fedorapeople.org/groups/designteam/Resources/Fedora%20Release% 20Themes/F13/Alpha/Sky%20Trails/
I just thought of the Fedora-logo and such stuff :D
2010/3/30 Nicu Buculei nicu_fedora@nicubunu.ro:
On 03/30/2010 01:50 PM, Kris Thomsen wrote:
Mairin, I meant the original svg files for the pics that Paul refered to :)
Those are the files... the final image is assembled with GIMP, SVG version is available only for the trails.
But you can use the XCF files for banners, what is needed is mostly some good cropping/resize work.
2010/3/30 Máirín Duffy:
On Tue, 2010-03-30 at 00:32 +0200, Kris Thomsen wrote:
Does someone have the original *.svg files for this?
They're linked to on the F13 artwork page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F13_Artwork
Specifically: http://fedorapeople.org/groups/designteam/Resources/Fedora%20Release% 20Themes/F13/Alpha/Sky%20Trails/
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On 03/30/2010 03:14 PM, Kris Thomsen wrote:
I just thought of the Fedora-logo and such stuff :D
You can reuse many of those from https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F12_Artwork/Beta
2010/3/30 Nicu Buculei:
On 03/30/2010 01:50 PM, Kris Thomsen wrote:
Mairin, I meant the original svg files for the pics that Paul refered to :)
Those are the files... the final image is assembled with GIMP, SVG version is available only for the trails.
But you can use the XCF files for banners, what is needed is mostly some good cropping/resize work.
2010/3/30 Máirín Duffy:
On Tue, 2010-03-30 at 00:32 +0200, Kris Thomsen wrote:
Does someone have the original *.svg files for this?
They're linked to on the F13 artwork page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F13_Artwork
Specifically: http://fedorapeople.org/groups/designteam/Resources/Fedora%20Release% 20Themes/F13/Alpha/Sky%20Trails/
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 04:13:13PM +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote:
On 03/30/2010 03:14 PM, Kris Thomsen wrote:
I just thought of the Fedora-logo and such stuff :D
You can reuse many of those from https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F12_Artwork/Beta
Awesome, thanks for the quick delivery of links!
Nicu, were you going to try to do a new iteration of the wallpaper based on the comments on Mo's blog?
On Tue, 2010-03-30 at 20:00 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 04:13:13PM +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote:
On 03/30/2010 03:14 PM, Kris Thomsen wrote:
I just thought of the Fedora-logo and such stuff :D
You can reuse many of those from https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F12_Artwork/Beta
Awesome, thanks for the quick delivery of links!
Nicu, were you going to try to do a new iteration of the wallpaper based on the comments on Mo's blog?
It still needs a lot of work, but I made a bit of a start on this. I think the most tricky thing to adjust was to redo the swirls so they were clockwise to fit the new loading animated cursor. I also tried a different texture but it doesn't have quite the same effect - the one used in the alpha wallpaper is too repetitive a pattern unfortunately. I think the texturing needs work. Also the glows are totally off. I did too sloppy a job of it.
That being said, here's a couple variations on the new swirls:
http://fedorapeople.org/groups/designteam/Resources/Fedora%20Release% 20Themes/F13/Beta/day.png
http://fedorapeople.org/groups/designteam/Resources/Fedora%20Release% 20Themes/F13/Beta/night.png
The new swirl shapes are in here:
http://fedorapeople.org/groups/designteam/Resources/Fedora%20Release% 20Themes/F13/Beta/30Mar2010-skytrails.svg
And the new XCF file is here:
http://fedorapeople.org/groups/designteam/Resources/Fedora%20Release% 20Themes/F13/Beta/skytrails14.xcf
Note the texture I used is the JPG in that directory. It's a photo I shot.
~m
On Wed, 2010-03-31 at 01:12 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
It still needs a lot of work, but I made a bit of a start on this. I think the most tricky thing to adjust was to redo the swirls so they were clockwise to fit the new loading animated cursor. I also tried a different texture but it doesn't have quite the same effect - the one used in the alpha wallpaper is too repetitive a pattern unfortunately. I think the texturing needs work.
I added back the pattern from the alpha one here, but less intense and moderated by the more random photo texture. Maybe it works better?
http://fedorapeople.org/groups/designteam/Resources/Fedora%20Release% 20Themes/F13/Beta/day2.png
source for that one is
http://fedorapeople.org/groups/designteam/Resources/Fedora%20Release% 20Themes/F13/Beta/skytrails15.xcf.gz
~m
On 03/31/2010 08:26 AM, Máirín Duffy wrote:
I added back the pattern from the alpha one here, but less intense and moderated by the more random photo texture. Maybe it works better?
http://fedorapeople.org/groups/designteam/Resources/Fedora%20Release% 20Themes/F13/Beta/day2.png
Actually I like this one better, probably due to its more vibrant colors. However, compared with Alpha I feel the trails edges are a bit to strong, they should be blurred a bit (as they were in Alpha).
Also, I know we wanted to avoid a possible clash with the Debian swirl logo, but from a composition point of view the counter-clockwise trails work better: your attention enters the composition normally from the left and is lead gently by the trails to the point of interest. With the new composition it clashes: my attention is taken from the bottom-left and driven into an edge at the top, then a very short trail from right to the point of interest.
Let's go back to the Alpha composition and live with the possible Debian resemblance (which really isn't).
On Wed, 2010-03-31 at 10:42 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote:
On 03/31/2010 08:26 AM, Máirín Duffy wrote:
I added back the pattern from the alpha one here, but less intense and moderated by the more random photo texture. Maybe it works better?
http://fedorapeople.org/groups/designteam/Resources/Fedora%20Release% 20Themes/F13/Beta/day2.png
Actually I like this one better, probably due to its more vibrant colors. However, compared with Alpha I feel the trails edges are a bit to strong, they should be blurred a bit (as they were in Alpha).
+1
Also, I know we wanted to avoid a possible clash with the Debian swirl logo, but from a composition point of view the counter-clockwise trails work better: your attention enters the composition normally from the left and is lead gently by the trails to the point of interest. With the new composition it clashes: my attention is taken from the bottom-left and driven into an edge at the top, then a very short trail from right to the point of interest.
+1 and I think the clockwise version feels a bit awkward.
Let's go back to the Alpha composition and live with the possible Debian resemblance (which really isn't).
Actually, the Debian swirl is clockwise [1]...
Martin
References: [1] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Openlogo-debianV2.svg
Hi!
I might be the only one but I think this wallpaper was always very different from Debian's artwork. I for sure never even thought "Debian" before people mentioned it on the blog. I wouldn't be too worried about it appearing as a copy of anything Debian, it's a far stretch. People *could* construe it that way, but you can construe almost anything given enough free time...
Fab
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On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Martin Sourada martin.sourada@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, 2010-03-31 at 10:42 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote:
On 03/31/2010 08:26 AM, Máirín Duffy wrote:
I added back the pattern from the alpha one here, but less intense and moderated by the more random photo texture. Maybe it works better?
http://fedorapeople.org/groups/designteam/Resources/Fedora%20Release% 20Themes/F13/Beta/day2.png
Actually I like this one better, probably due to its more vibrant colors. However, compared with Alpha I feel the trails edges are a bit to strong, they should be blurred a bit (as they were in Alpha).
+1
Also, I know we wanted to avoid a possible clash with the Debian swirl logo, but from a composition point of view the counter-clockwise trails work better: your attention enters the composition normally from the left and is lead gently by the trails to the point of interest. With the new composition it clashes: my attention is taken from the bottom-left and driven into an edge at the top, then a very short trail from right to the point of interest.
+1 and I think the clockwise version feels a bit awkward.
Let's go back to the Alpha composition and live with the possible Debian resemblance (which really isn't).
Actually, the Debian swirl is clockwise [1]...
Martin
References: [1] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Openlogo-debianV2.svg
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On 03/31/2010 12:11 PM, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote:
I might be the only one but I think this wallpaper was always very different from Debian's artwork. I for sure never even thought "Debian" before people mentioned it on the blog. I wouldn't be too worried about it appearing as a copy of anything Debian, it's a far stretch. People *could* construe it that way, but you can construe almost anything given enough free time...
We are on the same page, I also didn't make any Debian connection until I saw some others mentioning it, but you know, people can see everything everywhere (like the "devil horns" in the recent Ambassadors flamewar) so thought it is worth playing a bit with alternatives.
Now I am pretty much convinced the original counter-clockwise swirl is the best, but wasn't able to realize the composition problem with a clockwise swirl until I saw the picture.
Hey Nicu!
On Wed, 2010-03-31 at 12:31 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote:
Now I am pretty much convinced the original counter-clockwise swirl is the best, but wasn't able to realize the composition problem with a clockwise swirl until I saw the picture.
But.... But.......... eeeeee :)
The reason I spun it the otherway is because the new F13 spinner spins clockwise. When you see the spinner spinning clockwise yet the wallpaper spins counter-clockwise.... it looks pretty off :(
Folks, can you come up with any way to do the clockwise swirl but have things look less awkward? What is the swirl was along the bottom right instead of upper right?
~m
2010/3/31 Máirín Duffy duffy@fedoraproject.org:
Folks, can you come up with any way to do the clockwise swirl but have things look less awkward? What is the swirl was along the bottom right instead of upper right?
Well.... According to Nicu's argument, which I agree with, you'd then need to put the swirl into the left corner, right?
Fab
On Wed, 2010-03-31 at 14:02 +0200, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote:
2010/3/31 Máirín Duffy duffy@fedoraproject.org:
Folks, can you come up with any way to do the clockwise swirl but have things look less awkward? What is the swirl was along the bottom right instead of upper right?
Well.... According to Nicu's argument, which I agree with, you'd then need to put the swirl into the left corner, right?
I think the left corner is bad though, because that's where the icons start lining up. The swirl is the brightest part, so it'll interfere with the icons..... :( Or do you think I'm worrying over something silly?
~m
2010/3/31 Máirín Duffy duffy@fedoraproject.org:
On Wed, 2010-03-31 at 14:02 +0200, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote: I think the left corner is bad though, because that's where the icons start lining up. The swirl is the brightest part, so it'll interfere with the icons..... :( Or do you think I'm worrying over something silly?
No. I think you are right (LOL). Left felt wrong to me anyway, I just didn't know why...
Fab
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 02:06:09PM +0200, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote:
2010/3/31 Máirín Duffy duffy@fedoraproject.org:
On Wed, 2010-03-31 at 14:02 +0200, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote: I think the left corner is bad though, because that's where the icons start lining up. The swirl is the brightest part, so it'll interfere with the icons..... :( Or do you think I'm worrying over something silly?
No. I think you are right (LOL). Left felt wrong to me anyway, I just didn't know why...
Yes, I think the right side is still the proper placement because of desktop icon positioning.
Some thoughts I had, although I'm not sure to what extent these agree with the critiques already received:
* I'd definitely like to see quite a bit of blur on the swirls. Right now the swirls really attract my eyes away from where I want to put them on the desktop, especially when I'm locating icons. The transition from the pattern-based background to the swirl seems very abrupt and less like natural lighting or smoke.
* The tail ends of the swirls near the top and bottom right similarly seem to abruptly stop. I think that the intent is that these are "covered up" by other swirls, but the contrast between them may change the way the design's perceived -- at least it does for me.
On 03/31/2010 03:03 PM, Máirín Duffy wrote:
On Wed, 2010-03-31 at 14:02 +0200, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote:
2010/3/31 Máirín Duffyduffy@fedoraproject.org:
Folks, can you come up with any way to do the clockwise swirl but have things look less awkward? What is the swirl was along the bottom right instead of upper right?
Well.... According to Nicu's argument, which I agree with, you'd then need to put the swirl into the left corner, right?
I think the left corner is bad though, because that's where the icons start lining up. The swirl is the brightest part, so it'll interfere with the icons..... :( Or do you think I'm worrying over something silly?
You are right, the point of interest must be on the right part of the screen. Maybe have the swirl clockwise but full, not interrupted, like the one in Alpha (Rocket Trails 2) flipped vertically.
yes i think right side is more appropriate as we can place icons on left so it will not look good to merge the swirl with them.. i think to move swirl a little bottom will also be cool..... what others say??? K@NZ@
________________________________ From: Nicu Buculei nicu_fedora@nicubunu.ro To: Fedora Design Team design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Wed, March 31, 2010 5:51:31 PM Subject: Re: [Design-team] Upcoming Fedora 13 Tasks
On 03/31/2010 03:03 PM, Máirín Duffy wrote:
On Wed, 2010-03-31 at 14:02 +0200, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote:
2010/3/31 Máirín Duffyduffy@fedoraproject.org:
Folks, can you come up with any way to do the clockwise swirl but have things look less awkward? What is the swirl was along the bottom right instead of upper right?
Well.... According to Nicu's argument, which I agree with, you'd then need to put the swirl into the left corner, right?
I think the left corner is bad though, because that's where the icons start lining up. The swirl is the brightest part, so it'll interfere with the icons..... :( Or do you think I'm worrying over something silly?
You are right, the point of interest must be on the right part of the screen. Maybe have the swirl clockwise but full, not interrupted, like the one in Alpha (Rocket Trails 2) flipped vertically.
On Wed, 2010-03-31 at 15:51 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote:
On 03/31/2010 03:03 PM, Máirín Duffy wrote:
On Wed, 2010-03-31 at 14:02 +0200, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote:
2010/3/31 Máirín Duffyduffy@fedoraproject.org:
Folks, can you come up with any way to do the clockwise swirl but have things look less awkward? What is the swirl was along the bottom right instead of upper right?
Well.... According to Nicu's argument, which I agree with, you'd then need to put the swirl into the left corner, right?
I think the left corner is bad though, because that's where the icons start lining up. The swirl is the brightest part, so it'll interfere with the icons..... :( Or do you think I'm worrying over something silly?
You are right, the point of interest must be on the right part of the screen. Maybe have the swirl clockwise but full, not interrupted, like the one in Alpha (Rocket Trails 2) flipped vertically.
So I tried flipping the original vertically but it looks really odd. So I made another from scratch:
http://fedorapeople.org/groups/designteam/Resources/Fedora%20Release% 20Themes/F13/Beta/try%202/skytrails17.png
All the source files are in
http://fedorapeople.org/groups/designteam/Resources/Fedora%20Release% 20Themes/F13/Beta/try%202/
Anyone else want to try their hand? (pllleeeeasssseeee? :) )
~m
On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 10:02:38AM -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
On Wed, 2010-03-31 at 15:51 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote:
On 03/31/2010 03:03 PM, Máirín Duffy wrote:
On Wed, 2010-03-31 at 14:02 +0200, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote:
2010/3/31 Máirín Duffyduffy@fedoraproject.org:
Folks, can you come up with any way to do the clockwise swirl but have things look less awkward? What is the swirl was along the bottom right instead of upper right?
Well.... According to Nicu's argument, which I agree with, you'd then need to put the swirl into the left corner, right?
I think the left corner is bad though, because that's where the icons start lining up. The swirl is the brightest part, so it'll interfere with the icons..... :( Or do you think I'm worrying over something silly?
You are right, the point of interest must be on the right part of the screen. Maybe have the swirl clockwise but full, not interrupted, like the one in Alpha (Rocket Trails 2) flipped vertically.
So I tried flipping the original vertically but it looks really odd. So I made another from scratch:
http://fedorapeople.org/groups/designteam/Resources/Fedora%20Release%20Theme...
This is a really interesting development -- I like the higher smokiness factor in this one. If it could be increased even a bit more, it would make the background feel more smooth and relaxed IMVHO.
All the source files are in
http://fedorapeople.org/groups/designteam/Resources/Fedora%20Release% 20Themes/F13/Beta/try%202/
Anyone else want to try their hand? (pllleeeeasssseeee? :) )
Please artists -- give Mo a helping hand! :-)
I would help if I had any clue how to improve on the original wallpaper... I still love it to bits!
Fab
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On Wednesday 31 March 2010 14:02:17 Fabian A. Scherschel wrote:
2010/3/31 Máirín Duffy duffy@fedoraproject.org:
Folks, can you come up with any way to do the clockwise swirl but have things look less awkward? What is the swirl was along the bottom right instead of upper right?
Well.... According to Nicu's argument, which I agree with, you'd then need to put the swirl into the left corner, right?
Please don't! KDE themes are designed with swirl in right ;-) And some desktop envs. still shows icons on the desktop - on the left.
I don't see Debian in the swirl but you know...
Jaroslav
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On Wed, 2010-03-31 at 07:57 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
Hey Nicu!
On Wed, 2010-03-31 at 12:31 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote:
Now I am pretty much convinced the original counter-clockwise swirl is the best, but wasn't able to realize the composition problem with a clockwise swirl until I saw the picture.
But.... But.......... eeeeee :)
The reason I spun it the otherway is because the new F13 spinner spins clockwise. When you see the spinner spinning clockwise yet the wallpaper spins counter-clockwise.... it looks pretty off :(
Is it really that bad? I ask partially because I don't use the new cursors as I don't like them, but the bluecurve spinner is rotating clock wise as well and I didn't notice any problem there...
Martin
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