Hi,
Looking on our team and how it's worked for a while, you'll notice some things going wrong right now. Some changes over time have affected the design team. For example, there are no code names anymore, and fedora.next has shifted how we will organize and ship Fedora. Also, our trac queue contains a lot of open tickets that are very old, and we don't have an organized and consistent way to share design assets (for example, our Fedora People shared account hasn't been used in the past 3 years, and we've tried an art board, Sparkleshare on git, and other solutions but none have stuck yet.)
We want to bring some light in that darkness, so Mo and I agreed on trying to get the team together on a FAD. The main purpose for this FAD would be to put a structure in place to help handle our work in the future, and make design team collaboration (and new design team member ramp-up) easy and fun.
We think the FAD should happen over a weekend, from 16th - 18th January 2015, to enable more people to be able to come. Since the more active part of the team is mostly US-based right now, we thought its the best idea to do in the US, so the place will be near Boston in Westford, Massachusetts USA at the Red Hat engineering office (we can use the facility for free and have Mo and Ryan on the ground able to help.)
What we need now is to know who want to participate, so that we can calculate the costs and arrange an budget for it. Here are the types of things and skillsets we're looking for:
- Designers to help create badges, logos, mockups, etc. as requested in the open tickets on our trac queue at https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/report/1
- Designers and other technical folks willing to play around / try out and evaluate different potential design team infrastructure tools and work out ways we can integrate them into our team moving forward. This might involve installing and playing with art boards, coming up with a SparkleShare workflow, or experimenting with Glitter Gallery or any other related kinds of tools that will help us store our assets and share our work with each other.
- Anyone familiar with FAS to help us go through our membership list and clean out inactive members and tend to pending requests.
- Designers and anyone else willing to participate in brainstorming a solution about Fedora's release artwork process.
You can view our draft FAD proposal on the wiki:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_DesignTeam_2014
Please add your name as an interested participant and let us know your location / local airport so we can start putting together a full budget for this event.
br gnokii
Stop using acronyms without explanation and it might be easier? ~FAD? FAS? I joined expecting (rightly or wrongly) to help with the development of graphics. I don't know how the group (clearly not a team) works. I have had no indication of how it did/might/ should /does work.
Just my perspective.
Dave
On 20 August 2014 17:46, S.Kemter sirko.kemter@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
Looking on our team and how it's worked for a while, you'll notice some things going wrong right now. Some changes over time have affected the design team. For example, there are no code names anymore, and fedora.next has shifted how we will organize and ship Fedora. Also, our trac queue contains a lot of open tickets that are very old, and we don't have an organized and consistent way to share design assets (for example, our Fedora People shared account hasn't been used in the past 3 years, and we've tried an art board, Sparkleshare on git, and other solutions but none have stuck yet.)
We want to bring some light in that darkness, so Mo and I agreed on trying to get the team together on a FAD. The main purpose for this FAD would be to put a structure in place to help handle our work in the future, and make design team collaboration (and new design team member ramp-up) easy and fun.
We think the FAD should happen over a weekend, from 16th - 18th January 2015, to enable more people to be able to come. Since the more active part of the team is mostly US-based right now, we thought its the best idea to do in the US, so the place will be near Boston in Westford, Massachusetts USA at the Red Hat engineering office (we can use the facility for free and have Mo and Ryan on the ground able to help.)
What we need now is to know who want to participate, so that we can calculate the costs and arrange an budget for it. Here are the types of things and skillsets we're looking for:
- Designers to help create badges, logos, mockups, etc. as requested in the
open tickets on our trac queue at https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/report/1
- Designers and other technical folks willing to play around / try out and
evaluate different potential design team infrastructure tools and work out ways we can integrate them into our team moving forward. This might involve installing and playing with art boards, coming up with a SparkleShare workflow, or experimenting with Glitter Gallery or any other related kinds of tools that will help us store our assets and share our work with each other.
- Anyone familiar with FAS to help us go through our membership list and
clean out inactive members and tend to pending requests.
- Designers and anyone else willing to participate in brainstorming a
solution about Fedora's release artwork process.
You can view our draft FAD proposal on the wiki:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_DesignTeam_2014
Please add your name as an interested participant and let us know your location / local airport so we can start putting together a full budget for this event.
br gnokii
-- make me rich, buy my Inkscape book http://is.gd/yq5OD0 ;)
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On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 10:37 PM, Dave Pawson dave.pawson@gmail.com wrote:
Stop using acronyms without explanation and it might be easier? ~FAD? FAS?
Hi Dave, Gnokii meant the FAD (Fedora Activity Day)[1]. That's a fairly popular form of event that takes place within Fedora groups, locations and projects.
[1] - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Activity_Day_-_FAD
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 10:55:04PM +0530, Sarup Banskota wrote:
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 10:37 PM, Dave Pawson dave.pawson@gmail.com wrote:
Stop using acronyms without explanation and it might be easier? ~FAD? FAS?Hi Dave, Gnokii meant the FAD (Fedora Activity Day)[1]. That's a fairly popular form of event that takes place within Fedora groups, locations and projects.
As for FAS it is the Fedora Account System, the application [1] you have probably used when signing the CLA: Contributor License Agreement.
[1] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/
Pierre
Thanks Pierre.
Dave P
On 20 August 2014 18:55, Pierre-Yves Chibon pingou@pingoured.fr wrote:
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 10:55:04PM +0530, Sarup Banskota wrote:
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 10:37 PM, Dave Pawson dave.pawson@gmail.com wrote:
Stop using acronyms without explanation and it might be easier? ~FAD? FAS?Hi Dave, Gnokii meant the FAD (Fedora Activity Day)[1]. That's a fairly popular form of event that takes place within Fedora groups, locations and projects.
As for FAS it is the Fedora Account System, the application [1] you have probably used when signing the CLA: Contributor License Agreement.
[1] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/
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I am remote, and I am bombarded with a plethora of three letter acronyms, From FUD,FOOBAR and NUTS, to list 3.
Only use the acronym following its unabbreviated text.
Regards
Leslie
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From: Sarup Banskota sbanskota08@gmail.com To: Fedora Design Team design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [Design-team] design.next - FAD 2015
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 10:37 PM, Dave Pawson dave.pawson@gmail.com wrote:
Stop using acronyms without explanation and it might be easier?
~FAD? FAS?
Hi Dave, Gnokii meant the FAD (Fedora Activity Day)[1]. That's a fairly popular form of event that takes place within Fedora groups, locations and projects.
[1] - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Activity_Day_-_FAD
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How about somewhere in Vermont? Could even get some skiing in at the end of the day :)
Adam On 08/20/2014 12:46 PM, S.Kemter wrote:
Hi,
Looking on our team and how it's worked for a while, you'll notice some things going wrong right now. Some changes over time have affected the design team. For example, there are no code names anymore, and fedora.next has shifted how we will organize and ship Fedora. Also, our trac queue contains a lot of open tickets that are very old, and we don't have an organized and consistent way to share design assets (for example, our Fedora People shared account hasn't been used in the past 3 years, and we've tried an art board, Sparkleshare on git, and other solutions but none have stuck yet.)
We want to bring some light in that darkness, so Mo and I agreed on trying to get the team together on a FAD. The main purpose for this FAD would be to put a structure in place to help handle our work in the future, and make design team collaboration (and new design team member ramp-up) easy and fun.
We think the FAD should happen over a weekend, from 16th - 18th January 2015, to enable more people to be able to come. Since the more active part of the team is mostly US-based right now, we thought its the best idea to do in the US, so the place will be near Boston in Westford, Massachusetts USA at the Red Hat engineering office (we can use the facility for free and have Mo and Ryan on the ground able to help.)
What we need now is to know who want to participate, so that we can calculate the costs and arrange an budget for it. Here are the types of things and skillsets we're looking for:
- Designers to help create badges, logos, mockups, etc. as requested in the
open tickets on our trac queue at https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/report/1
- Designers and other technical folks willing to play around / try out and
evaluate different potential design team infrastructure tools and work out ways we can integrate them into our team moving forward. This might involve installing and playing with art boards, coming up with a SparkleShare workflow, or experimenting with Glitter Gallery or any other related kinds of tools that will help us store our assets and share our work with each other.
- Anyone familiar with FAS to help us go through our membership list and
clean out inactive members and tend to pending requests.
- Designers and anyone else willing to participate in brainstorming a
solution about Fedora's release artwork process.
You can view our draft FAD proposal on the wiki:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_DesignTeam_2014
Please add your name as an interested participant and let us know your location / local airport so we can start putting together a full budget for this event.
br gnokii
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On 08/20/2014 01:20 PM, Adam Saunders wrote:
How about somewhere in Vermont? Could even get some skiing in at the end of the day :)
It might be worth noting us two Boston-area folks have babies, one quite new, one a little over a year old, so travelling too far is pretty hard at this point. :(
~m
I understand, as a relatively-new parent myself. Perhaps I could pitch in remotely somehow that weekend?
Adam On 08/20/2014 01:31 PM, Máirín Duffy wrote:
On 08/20/2014 01:20 PM, Adam Saunders wrote:
How about somewhere in Vermont? Could even get some skiing in at the end of the day :)
It might be worth noting us two Boston-area folks have babies, one quite new, one a little over a year old, so travelling too far is pretty hard at this point. :(
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On 08/20/2014 02:47 PM, Adam Saunders wrote:
I understand, as a relatively-new parent myself. Perhaps I could pitch in remotely somehow that weekend?
Absolutely! We have a fantastic network setup in the RH office here, and as I was mentioning to Luya elsewhere in the thread, I can commit to making sure everything is on video so you can follow remotely. I think it would be quite easy to help out with tickets remotely and we can coordinate over the video stream and IRC who grabs what ticket, and depending on how things go maybe we can work remotees into some of the more discussion-heavy agenda items as well? What do you think? Want to sign up as a remote attendee?
~m
Hi,
@Luya I would like really to see you there in person, you do a damn fine job with the Design Suite and I would like to help you to improve the process for it.
@William at some points I dont get you, there is somebody from design team! Tatica is registered. Can it be you want something like the "Become a part of Fedora" workshop I did in March in Phnom Penh/Cambodia, where I together with Kushal and Tuan, did help interested people doing there first steps to become a part of Fedora?
Think there is no need, that I am doing that, just grab my slides from my fp.o account ( https://gnokii.fedorapeople.org/talks/character_slide_en.svg ) translate it to spanish, make the talk and start together with them doing the steps. You dont need somebody from each part of Fedora there, first steps are for all the same and then only make sure somebody in the team the want to join takes care of them.
Example Nisa and Vannda are the l10n team for khmer now, we had nobody with us from that team, Praveen is part of electronic lab also nobody been there. You can do that, you dont need me for it.
br gnokii
2014-08-20 20:52 GMT+02:00 Máirín Duffy duffy@fedoraproject.org:
On 08/20/2014 02:47 PM, Adam Saunders wrote:
I understand, as a relatively-new parent myself. Perhaps I could pitch in remotely somehow that weekend?
Absolutely! We have a fantastic network setup in the RH office here, and as I was mentioning to Luya elsewhere in the thread, I can commit to making sure everything is on video so you can follow remotely. I think it would be quite easy to help out with tickets remotely and we can coordinate over the video stream and IRC who grabs what ticket, and depending on how things go maybe we can work remotees into some of the more discussion-heavy agenda items as well? What do you think? Want to sign up as a remote attendee?
~m
----- Original Message -----
On 08/20/2014 02:47 PM, Adam Saunders wrote:
I understand, as a relatively-new parent myself. Perhaps I could pitch in remotely somehow that weekend?
Absolutely! We have a fantastic network setup in the RH office here, and as I was mentioning to Luya elsewhere in the thread, I can commit to making sure everything is on video so you can follow remotely. I think it would be quite easy to help out with tickets remotely and we can coordinate over the video stream and IRC who grabs what ticket, and depending on how things go maybe we can work remotees into some of the more discussion-heavy agenda items as well? What do you think? Want to sign up as a remote attendee?
Btw. I really like how Documentation guys did FAD last time - it happened the same time in two locations - Raleigh and Brno - with the video conference bridge using BlueJeans equipped meeting rooms. This way, NA contributors were physically available in Raleigh, EMEA in Brno. I know, for design team, where real interaction is better it's not as easy as for Docs FAD but it helped to reduce travelling costs a lot and I joined them for a few hours and it worked pretty well. I'm ok to help with it in case you'd like to do it :). At least, it will allow me to participate more as remotee :).
And thanks for organizing FAD!
Jaroslav
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Even harder (or more expensive) for non US members.
regards
On 20 August 2014 18:31, Máirín Duffy duffy@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On 08/20/2014 01:20 PM, Adam Saunders wrote:
How about somewhere in Vermont? Could even get some skiing in at the end of the day :)
It might be worth noting us two Boston-area folks have babies, one quite new, one a little over a year old, so travelling too far is pretty hard at this point. :(
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On 08/21/2014 03:02 AM, Dave Pawson wrote:
Even harder (or more expensive) for non US members.
The event has to be *some*where, and not everyone is in the same place or even the same country, so yes, for some folks it's going to be more difficult than others no matter what. What is important here is to balance that with the location of the most active members (more people in one place, more funding available for travel fund) as well as the venue cost (cheaper venue means more funding to help folks travel to the event.)
That Ryan and I as two highly active members of the team also cannot travel due to childcare issues is just an additional point of support for the Boston area. There are 4 active team members located in or within convenient and very economical travelling distance to Boston, and the venue available here is free (and drinks and snacks are free at this venue as well.) That means the bulk of the funding can be applied towards travel for folks to come.
Alternatively, if we held the event elsewhere where one or less team members are located, and in a location without a free venue, we will necessarily have more travelers pulling from the same budget meaning less people overall will be able to attend. We'd like as many folks as possible to come.
If it's really desired to have an event outside of Boston, and there is a strong case for that: I can't make it. I can't speak for Ryan but I do think it'd be pretty difficult for him to attend given the timing. It would likely be an event that neither of us could attend. If you think the event could work without us being there (I'm not going to say that's not possible,) by all means, feel free to step in and help plan that.
~m
Well said.
I'll be in Ottawa that weekend and I understand Leslie is in Montreal. Perhaps if some Canadian contributors would be willing to converge on either Ottawa or Montreal that weekend then we could have a group remote meetup to coordinate and collaborate in realtime with Boston. I might be able to pull some strings with contacts I have in the Ottawa area to get some affordable and/or free meetup space in Ottawa.
Adam
On 08/21/2014 08:51 AM, Máirín Duffy wrote:
On 08/21/2014 03:02 AM, Dave Pawson wrote:
Even harder (or more expensive) for non US members.
The event has to be *some*where, and not everyone is in the same place or even the same country, so yes, for some folks it's going to be more difficult than others no matter what. What is important here is to balance that with the location of the most active members (more people in one place, more funding available for travel fund) as well as the venue cost (cheaper venue means more funding to help folks travel to the event.)
That Ryan and I as two highly active members of the team also cannot travel due to childcare issues is just an additional point of support for the Boston area. There are 4 active team members located in or within convenient and very economical travelling distance to Boston, and the venue available here is free (and drinks and snacks are free at this venue as well.) That means the bulk of the funding can be applied towards travel for folks to come.
Alternatively, if we held the event elsewhere where one or less team members are located, and in a location without a free venue, we will necessarily have more travelers pulling from the same budget meaning less people overall will be able to attend. We'd like as many folks as possible to come.
If it's really desired to have an event outside of Boston, and there is a strong case for that: I can't make it. I can't speak for Ryan but I do think it'd be pretty difficult for him to attend given the timing. It would likely be an event that neither of us could attend. If you think the event could work without us being there (I'm not going to say that's not possible,) by all means, feel free to step in and help plan that.
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On 08/21/2014 06:48 AM, Adam Saunders wrote:
Well said.
I'll be in Ottawa that weekend and I understand Leslie is in Montreal. Perhaps if some Canadian contributors would be willing to converge on either Ottawa or Montreal that weekend then we could have a group remote meetup to coordinate and collaborate in realtime with Boston. I might be able to pull some strings with contacts I have in the Ottawa area to get some affordable and/or free meetup space in Ottawa.
Oddly enough coming from Vancouver, it is better for me to go in Boston instead of either Ottawa and Montreal. Like Jaroslav said, coordination from both cities would be effective.
I don't mind the 2.5 hr car travel time to drive to Ottawa.
We have a Montreal Linux User Group (mlug) and there may be others interested in design and in contributing. If the number of people is small, I can host a group. (wifi and snacks plus-plus).
Regards
Leslie
Mr. Leslie Satenstein SENT FROM MY OPEN SOURCE LINUX SYSTEM.
From: Luya Tshimbalanga luya@fedoraproject.org To: Fedora Design Team design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [Design-team] design.next - FAD 2015
On 08/21/2014 06:48 AM, Adam Saunders wrote:
Well said.
I'll be in Ottawa that weekend and I understand Leslie is in
Montreal. Perhaps if some Canadian contributors would be willing to converge on either Ottawa or Montreal that weekend then we could have a group remote meetup to coordinate and collaborate in realtime with Boston. I might be able to pull some strings with contacts I have in the Ottawa area to get some affordable and/or free meetup space in Ottawa.
Oddly enough coming from Vancouver, it is better for me to go in Boston instead of either Ottawa and Montreal. Like Jaroslav said, coordination from both cities would be effective.
-- Luya Tshimbalanga Fedora Design Team Design Suite spin maintainer
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Hi,
We think the FAD should happen over a weekend, from 16th - 18th January 2015, to enable more people to be able to come. Since the more active part of the team is mostly US-based right now, we thought its the best idea to do in the US, so the place will be near Boston in Westford, Massachusetts USA at the Red Hat engineering office (we can use the facility for free and have Mo and Ryan on the ground able to help.)
As I am somewhat nearby, I would like to join and get more involved in actual design process. I can contribute in design, code, packaging design related tools, their evaluation and basically whatever else that needs to be done.
-- Suchakra
Hi Suchakra!
On 08/20/2014 02:03 PM, Suchakra wrote:
As I am somewhat nearby, I would like to join and get more involved in actual design process. I can contribute in design, code, packaging design related tools, their evaluation and basically whatever else that needs to be done.
Awesome!! Make sure you add yourself to the wiki!
~m
Hi,
@william: I was already asked this morning to go there and I said no, because nobody could tell me for what I am needed there, I dont fly around to burn money or have a nice trip, especially my trip there would cost 1.500$
@william & adam: we did choose Westford because, the key people live there and its trouble for them to travel, so with other word a FAD without mizmo and Ryan makes not really sense.
br gnokii
2014-08-20 19:20 GMT+02:00 Adam Saunders adam.saunders@hushmail.com:
How about somewhere in Vermont? Could even get some skiing in at the end of the day :)
Adam
On 08/20/2014 12:46 PM, S.Kemter wrote:
Hi,
Looking on our team and how it's worked for a while, you'll notice some things going wrong right now. Some changes over time have affected the design team. For example, there are no code names anymore, and fedora.next has shifted how we will organize and ship Fedora. Also, our trac queue contains a lot of open tickets that are very old, and we don't have an organized and consistent way to share design assets (for example, our Fedora People shared account hasn't been used in the past 3 years, and we've tried an art board, Sparkleshare on git, and other solutions but none have stuck yet.)
We want to bring some light in that darkness, so Mo and I agreed on trying to get the team together on a FAD. The main purpose for this FAD would be to put a structure in place to help handle our work in the future, and make design team collaboration (and new design team member ramp-up) easy and fun.
We think the FAD should happen over a weekend, from 16th - 18th January 2015, to enable more people to be able to come. Since the more active part of the team is mostly US-based right now, we thought its the best idea to do in the US, so the place will be near Boston in Westford, Massachusetts USA at the Red Hat engineering office (we can use the facility for free and have Mo and Ryan on the ground able to help.)
What we need now is to know who want to participate, so that we can calculate the costs and arrange an budget for it. Here are the types of things and skillsets we're looking for:
- Designers to help create badges, logos, mockups, etc. as requested in
the open tickets on our trac queue at https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/report/1
- Designers and other technical folks willing to play around / try out and
evaluate different potential design team infrastructure tools and work out ways we can integrate them into our team moving forward. This might involve installing and playing with art boards, coming up with a SparkleShare workflow, or experimenting with Glitter Gallery or any other related kinds of tools that will help us store our assets and share our work with each other.
- Anyone familiar with FAS to help us go through our membership list and
clean out inactive members and tend to pending requests.
- Designers and anyone else willing to participate in brainstorming a
solution about Fedora's release artwork process.
You can view our draft FAD proposal on the wiki:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_DesignTeam_2014
Please add your name as an interested participant and let us know your location / local airport so we can start putting together a full budget for this event.
br gnokii
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2014-08-20 12:10 GMT-06:00 S.Kemter sirko.kemter@gmail.com:
Hi,
@william: I was already asked this morning to go there and I said no, because nobody could tell me for what I am needed there, I dont fly around to burn money or have a nice trip, especially my trip there would cost 1.500$
I did not know that :-/
We need someone of the Design Team in Fudcon Latam for:
1- Improve other Fedora working groups in Latam Community, Latam is a very big region, we have 20 countries with Spanish as the most common language, we have many ambassadors and many packagers, some people in infra and some people in l10n, but we don´t have enough people in others important roles for Fedora promotions in the region, there is people working with design in Latam, and new people coming but these new people are finding the way to really get productive in to the Fedora Project, I have not seem any post for a Latam member in Fedora Magazine yet (I kwon Magazine is marketing but jus is a example).
2- We really want to show than there is many ways to help in Fedora than not requiere tecnicos expertise, and Design is very important for us when need to promote Fedora against other similar products like Open Suse and Ubuntu than have many marketing in the region, but are not as open as Fedora Community for newcomers. Many people come to Fedora and then go away because they dont find a way to get into the community.
3- Local community always have someone than take care about design work for events, but when the event is over these people is going away, are people than can submit a Supplementary Wallpaper for a Fedora release or other stuff like banners and CD Cover or vote in Nuancier, but this people help in its local event and after that they not find a way to get into the project.
In Latam people do not believe much in the local talent, are more assertive, when an outsider who makes the call to participate in something
I know than will very expensive for someone to Fly for NA to Latam, but we are open for not personal talks, we can run a video conference than is inexpensive and just need to acordate a date for it. We really like to get helo from Desing in Fudcon Latam.
Do you think than a teleconference can work? Anyone here can help with a virtual workshop for Fudcon Latam? Maybe mizmo can help us with a update of Fedora Next marketing and some ideas for ambassador to promote these new products?
We think the FAD should happen over a weekend, from 16th - 18th January 2015, to enable more people to be able to come. Since the more active part of the team is mostly US-based right now, we thought its the best idea to do in the US, so the place will be near Boston in Westford, Massachusetts USA at the Red Hat engineering office (we can use the facility for free and have Mo and Ryan on the ground able to help.)
Good idea but what about a FAD per región? I live in latam region, it could really good do get a event like this in any región and we can get feedback for the others events.
We are working for Fudcon Latam, 2014, it is going to be at October 23th to 25th
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Managua_2014
It could be really nice for Latam región is someone of the design team come to Fudcon Latam, even we can run a FAD inside the Fudcon (or hacking if you prefer). We have many ambassador and packager than want to come to Fudcon Latam, but we are missing for someone of the desing team.
People still can request for sponsorship to come here:
https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/report/12
Someone will like to suport a Design Workshop in Fudcon Latam or a FAD? It could be really cool in we can merge both in Fudcon so many people will come asking about how to join the Fedora Project and Desing can be a good start point.
Someone is interested in come to Fudcon Latam and ask for sponsorship?
Hi William,
On 08/20/2014 01:34 PM, William Moreno wrote:
It could be really nice for Latam región is someone of the design team come to Fudcon Latam, even we can run a FAD inside the Fudcon (or hacking if you prefer). We have many ambassador and packager than want to come to Fudcon Latam, but we are missing for someone of the desing team.
Someone will like to suport a Design Workshop in Fudcon Latam or a FAD? It could be really cool in we can merge both in Fudcon so many people will come asking about how to join the Fedora Project and Desing can be a good start point.
I think if a designer in the LATAM region can make it, that's a good idea. I think though, to fly everyone to LATAM for this FAD would be too cost-prohibitive (and it would be difficult for folks like me and Ryan with babies at home - for example I can't leave home for more than 3 days right now without extra support and logistics because of my child care situation.)
Also, one of the key weaknesses the design team has right now that gnokii mentioned that we need to solve at that FAD is the best way to on-board new folks. I agree with you that a LATAM-based FAD would be a fantastic venue to recruit and on-board new contributors, but the problem is we don't currently have a good way to recruit and keep those contributors around on the design team and we need to figure that part out first. Otherwise, we'll get new recruits but won't have any way to manage them. :(
I hope this makes sense?
~m
On 20 August 2014 19:22, Máirín Duffy duffy@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Also, one of the key weaknesses the design team has right now that gnokii mentioned that we need to solve at that FAD is the best way to on-board new folks. I agree with you that a LATAM-based FAD would be a fantastic venue to recruit and on-board new contributors, but the problem is we don't currently have a good way to recruit and keep those contributors around on the design team and we need to figure that part out first. Otherwise, we'll get new recruits but won't have any way to manage them. :(
Lower cost suggestion.
1. I've only a basic knowledge about the groups aims / objectives. Option: to link from each email, and from a group web page, to a clear aims /objectives/ modus operandii for the group. Tell us what you do and how.
2. Have clear 'current' objectives (we need a new graphic design for X) somewhere, certainly posted to the list as they change.
Recruitment - I'm not much help here - but I could suggest posting on some of the forums, i.e. seeking users, some of whom will have graphic skills, and asking them to join? Perhaps on a 3 monthly basis?
HTH DaveP
Why not closer to Canada, say Burlington Vt.?
Regards
Leslie
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From: William Moreno williamjmorenor@gmail.com To: buergermeister@karl-tux-stadt.de; Fedora Design Team design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 1:34 PM Subject: Re: [Design-team] design.next - FAD 2015
We think the FAD should happen over a weekend,from 16th - 18th January 2015, to enable more people to be able to come. Sincethe more active part of the team is mostly US-based right now, we thought its the best idea to do in the US, so the place will be near Boston in Westford, Massachusetts USAatthe RedHat engineering office(we can use the facility for free and have Mo and Ryan on the ground able to help.)
Good idea but what about a FAD per región? I live in latam region, it could really good do get a event like this in any región and we can get feedback for the others events.
We are working for Fudcon Latam, 2014, it is going to be at October 23th to 25th
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Managua_2014
It could be really nice for Latam región is someone of the design team come to Fudcon Latam, even we can run a FAD inside the Fudcon (or hacking if you prefer). We have many ambassador and packager than want to come to Fudcon Latam, but we are missing for someone of the desing team.
People still can request for sponsorship to come here:
https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/report/12
Someone will like to suport a Design Workshop in Fudcon Latam or a FAD? It could be really cool in we can merge both in Fudcon so many people will come asking about how to join the Fedora Project and Desing can be a good start point.
Someone is interested in come to Fudcon Latam and ask for sponsorship?
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On 08/20/2014 09:46 AM, S.Kemter wrote:
What we need now is to know who want to participate, so that we can calculate the costs and arrange an budget for it.Here are the types of things and skillsets we're looking for:
- Designers to help create badges, logos, mockups, etc. as requested
in the open tickets on our trac queue at https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/report/1
- Designers and other technical folks willing to play around / try out
and evaluate different potential design team infrastructure tools and work out ways we can integrate them into our team moving forward. This might involve installing and playing with art boards, coming up with a SparkleShare workflow, or experimenting with Glitter Gallery or any other related kinds of tools that will help us store our assets and share our work with each other.
Could anyone also list the design tool needed for the events? As Design Suite maintainer, I would like to keep track of changes as possible and update the wiki: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Design_Suite.
In addition, how about people who cannot travel?
Regards,
On 08/20/2014 02:37 PM, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote:
Could anyone also list the design tool needed for the events? As Design Suite maintainer, I would like to keep track of changes as possible and update the wiki: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Design_Suite.
Whatever folks are comfortable working with is fine; the Design Suite is obviously preferred :)
In addition, how about people who cannot travel?
I would like to take notes in IRC and interact with folks willing to virtually attend the event, as well as have video streams available. As an active participant, I can't commit to full transcriptions / note taking in IRC but, for example, if there is interest in virtual attendance, I will commit fully to running a live video stream for that purpose and monitoring IRC to make sure the remote viewers and work together with us. Some of the tasks we'll be taking on, like diving into fixing open tickets, are absolutely things a remote attendee can fully participate in and it would be very cool to see that happen here.
Is that along the lines of what you were thinking, Luya?
~m
On 08/20/2014 11:47 AM, Máirín Duffy wrote:
I would like to take notes in IRC and interact with folks willing to virtually attend the event, as well as have video streams available. As an active participant, I can't commit to full transcriptions / note taking in IRC but, for example, if there is interest in virtual attendance, I will commit fully to running a live video stream for that purpose and monitoring IRC to make sure the remote viewers and work together with us. Some of the tasks we'll be taking on, like diving into fixing open tickets, are absolutely things a remote attendee can fully participate in and it would be very cool to see that happen here.
Is that along the lines of what you were thinking, Luya?
~m
You got it. =)
I wish I'd read this before posting Mairin :-)
On 20 August 2014 19:47, Máirín Duffy duffy@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On 08/20/2014 02:37 PM, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote:
Could anyone also list the design tool needed for the events? As Design Suite maintainer, I would like to keep track of changes as possible and update the wiki: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Design_Suite.
Whatever folks are comfortable working with is fine; the Design Suite is obviously preferred :)
In addition, how about people who cannot travel?
I would like to take notes in IRC and interact with folks willing to virtually attend the event, as well as have video streams available. As an active participant, I can't commit to full transcriptions / note taking in IRC but, for example, if there is interest in virtual attendance, I will commit fully to running a live video stream for that purpose and monitoring IRC to make sure the remote viewers and work together with us. Some of the tasks we'll be taking on, like diving into fixing open tickets, are absolutely things a remote attendee can fully participate in and it would be very cool to see that happen here.
Is that along the lines of what you were thinking, Luya?
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On 20 August 2014 19:37, Luya Tshimbalanga luya@fedoraproject.org
In addition, how about people who cannot travel?
Boring, but IRC works. If you want to share output, use a webpage / wiki?
If cameras were available..... and a budget ....
regards
If be very interested in helping, I gotta pop back in now that my laptop is no longer bricked. Just in time for school too :)
On Wednesday, August 20, 2014, S.Kemter sirko.kemter@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
Looking on our team and how it's worked for a while, you'll notice some things going wrong right now. Some changes over time have affected the design team. For example, there are no code names anymore, and fedora.next has shifted how we will organize and ship Fedora. Also, our trac queue contains a lot of open tickets that are very old, and we don't have an organized and consistent way to share design assets (for example, our Fedora People shared account hasn't been used in the past 3 years, and we've tried an art board, Sparkleshare on git, and other solutions but none have stuck yet.)
We want to bring some light in that darkness, so Mo and I agreed on trying to get the team together on a FAD. The main purpose for this FAD would be to put a structure in place to help handle our work in the future, and make design team collaboration (and new design team member ramp-up) easy and fun.
We think the FAD should happen over a weekend, from 16th - 18th January 2015, to enable more people to be able to come. Since the more active part of the team is mostly US-based right now, we thought its the best idea to do in the US, so the place will be near Boston in Westford, Massachusetts USA at the Red Hat engineering office (we can use the facility for free and have Mo and Ryan on the ground able to help.)
What we need now is to know who want to participate, so that we can calculate the costs and arrange an budget for it. Here are the types of things and skillsets we're looking for:
- Designers to help create badges, logos, mockups, etc. as requested in
the open tickets on our trac queue at https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/report/1
- Designers and other technical folks willing to play around / try out and
evaluate different potential design team infrastructure tools and work out ways we can integrate them into our team moving forward. This might involve installing and playing with art boards, coming up with a SparkleShare workflow, or experimenting with Glitter Gallery or any other related kinds of tools that will help us store our assets and share our work with each other.
- Anyone familiar with FAS to help us go through our membership list and
clean out inactive members and tend to pending requests.
- Designers and anyone else willing to participate in brainstorming a
solution about Fedora's release artwork process.
You can view our draft FAD proposal on the wiki:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_DesignTeam_2014
Please add your name as an interested participant and let us know your location / local airport so we can start putting together a full budget for this event.
br gnokii
-- make me rich, buy my Inkscape book http://is.gd/yq5OD0 ;)
On Wed, 2014-08-20 at 18:46 +0200, S.Kemter wrote:
We think the FAD should happen over a weekend, from 16th - 18th January 2015, to enable more people to be able to come. Since the more active part of the team is mostly US-based right now, we thought its the best idea to do in the US, so the place will be near Boston in Westford, Massachusetts USA at the Red Hat engineering office (we can use the facility for free and have Mo and Ryan on the ground able to help.)
What we need now is to know who want to participate, so that we can calculate the costs and arrange an budget for it. Here are the types of things and skillsets we're looking for:
I'd love to come ... But a trip to the US will be too expensive to justify 3-days of activity.
twohot
You will have to count me out. I have no sponsors. It is also a 5hr drive to Boston. Airfare,Hotel,parking,gas, food, etc.
Regards
From: Onyeibo Oku twohotis@gmail.com To: design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 11:14 PM Subject: Re: [Design-team] design.next - FAD 2015
On Wed, 2014-08-20 at 18:46 +0200, S.Kemter wrote:
We think the FAD should happen over a weekend, from 16th - 18th January 2015, to enable more people to be able to come. Since the more active part of the team is mostly US-based right now, we thought its the best idea to do in the US, so the place will be near Boston in Westford, Massachusetts USA at the Red Hat engineering office (we can use the facility for free and have Mo and Ryan on the ground able to help.)
What we need now is to know who want to participate, so that we can calculate the costs and arrange an budget for it. Here are the types of things and skillsets we're looking for:
I'd love to come ... But a trip to the US will be too expensive to justify 3-days of activity.
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On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 06:39:45AM -0700, Leslie S Satenstein wrote:
You will have to count me out. I have no sponsors. It is also a 5hr drive to Boston. Airfare,Hotel,parking,gas, food, etc.
It's not like we have a lot of spare money lying around, but Fedora *does* have a budget and we can make extra requests for important activies, especially if we can connect this to strategic initiatives -- and I think Fedora.next design certainly counts. Please put together a plan, clearly put forward the benefit to Fedora as a whole (and particularly alignment with high-priority goals) and figure out what the budget might need to be, and I can help advocate for funding.
Hi, it would be a great chance for me joining this FAD, but I was wondering if there are any special requirements in order to participate apart from being a team member and--naturally--interested in the proposed activities.
Sam_
Hi,
Looking on our team and how it's worked for a while, you'll notice some things going wrong right now. Some changes over time have affected the design team. For example, there are no code names anymore, and fedora.next has shifted how we will organize and ship Fedora. Also, our trac queue contains a lot of open tickets that are very old, and we don't have an organized and consistent way to share design assets (for example, our Fedora People shared account hasn't been used in the past 3 years, and we've tried an art board, Sparkleshare on git, and other solutions but none have stuck yet.)
We want to bring some light in that darkness, so Mo and I agreed on trying to get the team together on a FAD. The main purpose for this FAD would be to put a structure in place to help handle our work in the future, and make design team collaboration (and new design team member ramp-up) easy and fun.
We think the FAD should happen over a weekend, from 16th - 18th January 2015, to enable more people to be able to come. Since the more active part of the team is mostly US-based right now, we thought its the best idea to do in the US, so the place will be near Boston in Westford, Massachusetts USA at the Red Hat engineering office (we can use the facility for free and have Mo and Ryan on the ground able to help.)
What we need now is to know who want to participate, so that we can calculate the costs and arrange an budget for it. Here are the types of things and skillsets we're looking for:
- Designers to help create badges, logos, mockups, etc. as requested
in the open tickets on our trac queue at https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/report/1
- Designers and other technical folks willing to play around / try out
and evaluate different potential design team infrastructure tools and work out ways we can integrate them into our team moving forward. This might involve installing and playing with art boards, coming up with a SparkleShare workflow, or experimenting with Glitter Gallery or any other related kinds of tools that will help us store our assets and share our work with each other.
- Anyone familiar with FAS to help us go through our membership list
and clean out inactive members and tend to pending requests.
- Designers and anyone else willing to participate in brainstorming a
solution about Fedora's release artwork process.
You can view our draft FAD proposal on the wiki:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_DesignTeam_2014
Please add your name as an interested participant and let us know your location / local airport so we can start putting together a full budget for this event.
br gnokii
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Hi,
Sam, there are no requirements as what you can achieve there and make progress there for Fedora & the design team. But you should have an eye on the costs and how the pertinece is corresponding what you can achieve there.
br gnokii
2014-08-25 17:01 GMT+02:00 Samuel just.sam@gmx.com:
Hi, it would be a great chance for me joining this FAD, but I was wondering if there are any special requirements in order to participate apart from being a team member and--naturally--interested in the proposed activities.
Sam_
Hi,
Looking on our team and how it's worked for a while, you'll notice some things going wrong right now. Some changes over time have affected the design team. For example, there are no code names anymore, and fedora.next has shifted how we will organize and ship Fedora. Also, our trac queue contains a lot of open tickets that are very old, and we don't have an organized and consistent way to share design assets (for example, our Fedora People shared account hasn't been used in the past 3 years, and we've tried an art board, Sparkleshare on git, and other solutions but none have stuck yet.)
We want to bring some light in that darkness, so Mo and I agreed on trying to get the team together on a FAD. The main purpose for this FAD would be to put a structure in place to help handle our work in the future, and make design team collaboration (and new design team member ramp-up) easy and fun.
We think the FAD should happen over a weekend, from 16th - 18th January 2015, to enable more people to be able to come. Since the more active part of the team is mostly US-based right now, we thought its the best idea to do in the US, so the place will be near Boston in Westford, Massachusetts USA at the Red Hat engineering office (we can use the facility for free and have Mo and Ryan on the ground able to help.)
What we need now is to know who want to participate, so that we can calculate the costs and arrange an budget for it. Here are the types of things and skillsets we're looking for:
- Designers to help create badges, logos, mockups, etc. as requested
in the open tickets on our trac queue at https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/report/1
- Designers and other technical folks willing to play around / try out
and evaluate different potential design team infrastructure tools and work out ways we can integrate them into our team moving forward. This might involve installing and playing with art boards, coming up with a SparkleShare workflow, or experimenting with Glitter Gallery or any other related kinds of tools that will help us store our assets and share our work with each other.
- Anyone familiar with FAS to help us go through our membership list
and clean out inactive members and tend to pending requests.
- Designers and anyone else willing to participate in brainstorming a
solution about Fedora's release artwork process.
You can view our draft FAD proposal on the wiki:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_DesignTeam_2014
Please add your name as an interested participant and let us know your location / local airport so we can start putting together a full budget for this event.
br gnokii
-- make me rich, buy my Inkscape book http://is.gd/yq5OD0 ;)
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Ok, great! I will add y name to the list asap. Thank you, S_
Il giorno mar, 26/08/2014 alle 11.06 +0200, S.Kemter ha scritto:
Hi,
Sam, there are no requirements as what you can achieve there and make progress there for Fedora & the design team. But you should have an eye on the costs and how the pertinece is corresponding what you can achieve there.
br gnokii
2014-08-25 17:01 GMT+02:00 Samuel just.sam@gmx.com: Hi, it would be a great chance for me joining this FAD, but I was wondering if there are any special requirements in order to participate apart from being a team member and--naturally--interested in the proposed activities.
Sam_ > Hi, > > > > Looking on our team and how it's worked for a while, you'll notice > some things going wrong right now. Some changes over time have > affected the design team. For example, there are no code names > anymore, and fedora.next has shifted how we will organize and ship > Fedora. Also, our trac queue contains a lot of open tickets that are > very old, and we don't have an organized and consistent way to share > design assets (for example, our Fedora People shared account hasn't > been used in the past 3 years, and we've tried an art board, > Sparkleshare on git, and other solutions but none have stuck yet.) > > > We want to bring some light in that darkness, so Mo and I agreed on > trying to get the team together on a FAD. The main purpose for this > FAD would be to put a structure in place to help handle our work in > the future, and make design team collaboration (and new design team > member ramp-up) easy and fun. > > > We think the FAD should happen over a weekend, from 16th - 18th > January 2015, to enable more people to be able to come. Since the more > active part of the team is mostly US-based right now, we thought its > the best idea to do in the US, so the place will be near Boston in > Westford, Massachusetts USA at the Red Hat engineering office (we can > use the facility for free and have Mo and Ryan on the ground able to > help.) > > > What we need now is to know who want to participate, so that we can > calculate the costs and arrange an budget for it. Here are the types > of things and skillsets we're looking for: > > > - Designers to help create badges, logos, mockups, etc. as requested > in the open tickets on our trac queue at > https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/report/1 > > > - Designers and other technical folks willing to play around / try out > and evaluate different potential design team infrastructure tools and > work out ways we can integrate them into our team moving forward. This > might involve installing and playing with art boards, coming up with a > SparkleShare workflow, or experimenting with Glitter Gallery or any > other related kinds of tools that will help us store our assets and > share our work with each other. > > > - Anyone familiar with FAS to help us go through our membership list > and clean out inactive members and tend to pending requests. > > > - Designers and anyone else willing to participate in brainstorming a > solution about Fedora's release artwork process. > > > You can view our draft FAD proposal on the wiki: > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_DesignTeam_2014 > > > Please add your name as an interested participant and let us know your > location / local airport so we can start putting together a full > budget for this event. > > > br gnokii > > > > -- > make me rich, buy my Inkscape book http://is.gd/yq5OD0 ;) > > _______________________________________________ > design-team mailing list > design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team _______________________________________________ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team-- make me rich, buy my Inkscape book http://is.gd/yq5OD0 ;)
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