On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 7:00 AM, < design-team-request@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:
http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/logos/fedoramag/fedora-mag-logos_ideas-1.p... \
I like B, and I like D with the variants. I could also see some potential on postcards or shirts to have images instead of colors in the variants.
The first thing that sprung to mind was if it was strange to use some kind of radio image, since we're broadcasting information, and the initials are FM. But that's also a bit beyond the usual Fedora [Thing] logo style.
Ruth
I'm not a fan of D or the variants; I think the Fedora logo, which should be the dominant element, gets overwhelmed, then you go through a thought process of "oh, the infinity symbol again, I get it," which is too much thinking for a logo.
I like C better; it adds an extra element to create a new look for a magazine but still honors the original logo. But I thought the Fedora logo portion was too small so I made a version with the proportions changed.
png of just logo C:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/pqi6qanhry0qqec/fedora-mag-logo-C-Chestek.png
svg of all of them, with a revised C:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/27723svk97t94nd/fedora-mag-logos_ideas-chestek.svg
I have to figure out how to set up a page on the Fedora website.
Pam
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Ruth Suehle rsuehle@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 7:00 AM, < design-team-request@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:
http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/logos/fedoramag/fedora-mag-logos_ideas-1.p... \
I like B, and I like D with the variants. I could also see some potential on postcards or shirts to have images instead of colors in the variants.
The first thing that sprung to mind was if it was strange to use some kind of radio image, since we're broadcasting information, and the initials are FM. But that's also a bit beyond the usual Fedora [Thing] logo style.
Ruth
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Hi!
Thanks for all of the great feedback. I put together another sheet based on your ideas -
http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/logos/fedoramag/fedora-mag-logos_ideas-2.p...
(SVG in the same directory if you want a play)
Some explanation inline below -
On Thu, 2012-12-13 at 08:13 -0500, Ruth Suehle wrote:
B, and I like D with the variants. I could also see some potential on postcards or shirts to have images instead of colors in the variants.
Ooh I like the idea to have images instead of colors in variants - I played with this a bit on the C variants and the revised D variants with a couple of Gimp bitmap patterns.
The first thing that sprung to mind was if it was strange to use some kind of radio image, since we're broadcasting information, and the initials are FM. But that's also a bit beyond the usual Fedora [Thing] logo style.
I think it's okay though; I think as Tatica suggested, it's not necessarily bad to have a bit of a bolder brand for it. (as long as it still looks 'Fedora,' I think.)
So I played around with this idea (which I like a lot) a bit, and the results are E, F, and H. I am uncomfortable with F though - after staring at it for a while, I think it looks like the Vicks (the cold medicine people, I don't know if they are international so this is what it looks like for non US folks: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vicks ) logo. I tried it first at the normal Fedora bubble rotation but it doesn't give you the feeling of 'broadcasting' anymore, it just kinda looks like a cheesy late 70's disco effect thing.
On Thu, 2012-12-13 at 10:25 -0500, Pamela Chestek wrote:
I'm not a fan of D or the variants; I think the Fedora logo, which should be the dominant element, gets overwhelmed, then you go through a thought process of "oh, the infinity symbol again, I get it," which is too much thinking for a logo.
Ah okay, I get that. I poked at it for a bit and came up with a revision (marked D revised) on the sheet, which is a bit of a riff off of the Four Foundations artwork (e.g., 'with smaller bubbles' here http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines#Permitted_logo_variants_3 ) What do you think about that configuration instead?
I like C better; it adds an extra element to create a new look for a magazine but still honors the original logo. But I thought the Fedora logo portion was too small so I made a version with the proportions changed.
Hey you are a regular Inkscape whiz, Pam! :) I like what you did with it - I think you might not have the font installed though because your version seems to be using the default Sans font. I did up your version using Comfortaa, it's C on the sheet.
I'm tending towards favoring this one more as well - I think it's along the lines of the popular styles folks are going with for branding this sort of thing now, it has the flat look with the bright colors.
On Thu, 2012-12-13 at 17:34 +0100, Martin Sourada wrote:
I like the D ideas, basically. I especially like how you can easily distinguish sections with different letters/colours. I see you experiment with upper-case letters only, I would be more daring and try lower-case and a simple shading.
Thanks for the mockup, I see what you mean!
I definitely played around more with lowercase this time, creating an 'fm' logo in lowercase using the logo bubble 'f' and a custom 'm' character to match (tweaked from some Comfortaa letterforms.)
I'm trying to avoid any kind of shading / drop-shadows for this though - it seems like a lot of online magazine designs these days are going for a superflat look (probably related to the current UI design trend of superflat color blocks). My thinking there is we don't want this to look dated in a year or two - it does seem at this point that the flat trend is going to stick around for a while.
~m
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Máirín Duffy duffy@fedoraproject.orgwrote:
Hi!
So I played around with this idea (which I like a lot) a bit, and the results are E, F, and H. I am uncomfortable with F though - after staring at it for a while, I think it looks like the Vicks (the cold medicine people, I don't know if they are international so this is what it looks like for non US folks: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vicks ) logo. I tried it first at the normal Fedora bubble rotation but it doesn't give you the feeling of 'broadcasting' anymore, it just kinda looks like a cheesy late 70's disco effect thing.
I like the concept and I particularly like H (it might be my favorite) - I like the riff but different enough to have its own identity. F doesn't look too much like Vicks to me, but that's just my lay opinion. What I like about F (and the horizontal version in E) is that you have a full logo where appropriate (like the home page title bar) but then you have nice compact icons that can be used on subsections, etc.
On Thu, 2012-12-13 at 10:25 -0500, Pamela Chestek wrote:
I'm not a fan of D or the variants; I think the Fedora logo, which should be the dominant element, gets overwhelmed, then you go through a thought process of "oh, the infinity symbol again, I get it," which is too much thinking for a logo.
Ah okay, I get that. I poked at it for a bit and came up with a revision (marked D revised) on the sheet, which is a bit of a riff off of the Four Foundations artwork (e.g., 'with smaller bubbles' here
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines#Permitted_logo_variants_3) What do you think about that configuration instead?
I wonder if it's too busy and requires too much landscape? Also, if for some reason the word "Magazine" is dropped (because, well, duh, it's a magazine) is it too close to Four Foundations, which means we would essentially be using the same logo for two different concepts?
I like C better; it adds an extra element to create a new look for a magazine but still honors the original logo. But I thought the Fedora logo portion was too small so I made a version with the proportions changed.
Hey you are a regular Inkscape whiz, Pam! :) I like what you did with it
- I think you might not have the font installed though because your
version seems to be using the default Sans font. I did up your version using Comfortaa, it's C on the sheet.
Thanks for letting me know. I have to get my act organized as a contributor!
Overall I like F because it has the full logo and smaller icons, which I think would be useful. I like the concept of H and might like it the best if there was a sweet little colored icon for it too, but nothing is coming to mind for me. C is the closest tie to the Fedora Project since it uses the regular Fedora logo, so part of the decision is how closely related you want them to be. C might be awkward to use; because of the diagonal it might be hard to compose around without it looking like it's in the middle of a big field (but you would know better than me). It will also lose crispness if it's used in a small version as an icon - although maybe for the icon version you could take the word "magazine" off and reduce the size of the color bubble to make it smaller. And D is too busy for my taste.
Design opinion only, not legal. Not thinking with that part of my brain.
Pam
Hi,
On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 20:11:26 -0500 Pamela Chestek wrote:
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Máirín Duffy duffy@fedoraproject.orgwrote:
Hi!
So I played around with this idea (which I like a lot) a bit, and the results are E, F, and H. I am uncomfortable with F though - after staring at it for a while, I think it looks like the Vicks (the cold medicine people, I don't know if they are international so this is what it looks like for non US folks: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vicks ) logo. I tried it first at the normal Fedora bubble rotation but it doesn't give you the feeling of 'broadcasting' anymore, it just kinda looks like a cheesy late 70's disco effect thing.
No matter how long I stare, I see nothing more than a *remotely similar* shape. If you'd take what you mentioned as a sound argument against usage, you'd probably end up with no logo at all, when all is said and done. IMHO, that would be taking much more precaution than necessary.
Overall I like F because it has the full logo and smaller icons, which I think would be useful. I like the concept of H and might like it the best if there was a sweet little colored icon for it too, but nothing is coming to mind for me. C is the closest tie to the Fedora Project since it uses the regular Fedora logo, so part of the decision is how closely related you want them to be. C might be awkward to use; because of the diagonal it might be hard to compose around without it looking like it's in the middle of a big field (but you would know better than me). It will also lose crispness if it's used in a small version as an icon - although maybe for the icon version you could take the word "magazine" off and reduce the size of the color bubble to make it smaller. And D is too busy for my taste.
Count me in the E/F camp, and by far (in fact I'd even say they're the only variants I like *a lot*, the rest stir no special feelings in me). The E/F logos and stylish, yet simple. They remind me a bit of a hot air balloon. And I mostly agree with Pam.
Martin
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