Hi again, gnokii,
I've prepared the package for f21a wallpaper, but while in the middle of making it I realized one tiny problem -- I don't know how to properly call it, since F21 does not have a code name. I'd like to sort this out before submitting the package for review, for now I've called it phoenix, after the wallpaper you sent me. Input welcome, CC-ing jreznik and design-team list. I'll be idling on #design-team at freenode, although I'll be going to sleep in about 2-3 hours.
WIP packages here: https://mso.fedorapeople.org/packages/SPECS/phoenix-backgrounds.spec https://mso.fedorapeople.org/packages/SRPMS/phoenix-backgrounds-20.91.0-1.fc...
https://mso.fedorapeople.org/packages/RPMS/noarch/phoenix-backgrounds-20.91.... https://mso.fedorapeople.org/packages/RPMS/noarch/phoenix-backgrounds-base-2... https://mso.fedorapeople.org/packages/RPMS/noarch/phoenix-backgrounds-gnome-... https://mso.fedorapeople.org/packages/RPMS/noarch/phoenix-backgrounds-kde-20... https://mso.fedorapeople.org/packages/RPMS/noarch/phoenix-backgrounds-mate-2... https://mso.fedorapeople.org/packages/RPMS/noarch/phoenix-backgrounds-xfce-2...
Regards, Martin
PS: If anyone could test it out in gnome/kde/mate that would be also welcome, you need the *-base package plus the *-<desktop> one, I've tested it in XFCE. After you install the needed packages, the wallpaper should appear in your desktop's background selector.
Our team is becoming more closed? On the our banner do know from website team list :( . We are have a ready wallpaper bypassing design team mail list :(. This is the first time. It's fedora.next? Gnokii please don't ignore design team mail list. We don't have more open tools at this time. Thanks to Martin for this message :).
Thanks, Alexander
Member of Fedora Design Team.
2014-08-23 0:50 GMT+04:00 Martin Sourada martin.sourada@gmail.com:
Hi again, gnokii,
I've prepared the package for f21a wallpaper, but while in the middle of making it I realized one tiny problem -- I don't know how to properly call it, since F21 does not have a code name. I'd like to sort this out before submitting the package for review, for now I've called it phoenix, after the wallpaper you sent me. Input welcome, CC-ing jreznik and design-team list. I'll be idling on #design-team at freenode, although I'll be going to sleep in about 2-3 hours.
WIP packages here: https://mso.fedorapeople.org/packages/SPECS/phoenix-backgrounds.spec
https://mso.fedorapeople.org/packages/SRPMS/phoenix-backgrounds-20.91.0-1.fc...
https://mso.fedorapeople.org/packages/RPMS/noarch/phoenix-backgrounds-20.91....
https://mso.fedorapeople.org/packages/RPMS/noarch/phoenix-backgrounds-base-2...
https://mso.fedorapeople.org/packages/RPMS/noarch/phoenix-backgrounds-gnome-...
https://mso.fedorapeople.org/packages/RPMS/noarch/phoenix-backgrounds-kde-20...
https://mso.fedorapeople.org/packages/RPMS/noarch/phoenix-backgrounds-mate-2...
https://mso.fedorapeople.org/packages/RPMS/noarch/phoenix-backgrounds-xfce-2...
Regards, Martin
PS: If anyone could test it out in gnome/kde/mate that would be also welcome, you need the *-base package plus the *-<desktop> one, I've tested it in XFCE. After you install the needed packages, the wallpaper should appear in your desktop's background selector.
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Hi Alexander,
On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 01:53:21 +0400 Alexander Smirnov wrote:
Our team is becoming more closed? On the our banner do know from website team list :( . We are have a ready wallpaper bypassing design team mail list :(. This is the first time. It's fedora.next? Gnokii please don't ignore design team mail list. We don't have more open tools at this time. Thanks to Martin for this message :).
From what I understood from gnokii's original message, it's more like a last-minute-put-something-together-and-get-it-in-for-alpha, than a "ready wallpaper". I think gnokii can put more insight into why there weren't any wallpaper (default one) on-list discussions about it so far. I wouldn't accuse anyone of intentionally bypassing the mailing list (gnokii asked me to package the initial picture, as usual, and that does not need to go through the ML, I believe, especially when time presses). And I think I'm not the only one confused about the whole Fedora.next movement, release name abandonment (which certainly didn't help with the wallpaper creation), our team position within the "new Fedora", ... ;-)
Thanks for the input so far about the names, my take: * twentyone-backgrounds looks a bit strange to me, * f21-backgrounds feels better to me, * I was initially playing with the idea of workstation-21-backgrounds, but I didn't like it when I saw it and I'm not even sure if it would be the correct approach in the .next universe...
Cheers, Martin
Regarding the position of the design team in Fedora.Next, I think the design team should be and is still relevant.
There are a lot of apps we have in the distribution (some of them are installed by default in Workstation) that could use some UX attention, there's our website redesign which needs feedback, mockups and discussion, we still need artwork for the installer sidebar, etc etc.
So in addition to the design team having a lot of tasks right now, I hope that in the future we will see Fedora more design-lead and less feature-lead.
Speaking as someone who's working on Workstation these days, I would like it if UX designers from here would chime in more frequently on Workstation related discussion.
Hi,
I dont understand this here, we have a schedule and its not hidden.
https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-21/f-21-design-tasks.html
Nobody here realized that the deadline for alpha wallpaper was on 3rd July, thats nearly 2 months ago. I find it very contra-productive to complain after a decision must be taken, because nobody took responsibility for doing something to move forward on the F21 wallpaper. We only was happy that alpha got delayed. So when the release manager comes to me and says where is the alpha wallpaper, we want to release now, I will surly not begin an disscusion on this list, I will make an decision. Which btw was not only made by myself.
br gnokii
2014-08-23 12:03 GMT+02:00 Elad Alfassa elad@fedoraproject.org:
Regarding the position of the design team in Fedora.Next, I think the design team should be and is still relevant.
There are a lot of apps we have in the distribution (some of them are installed by default in Workstation) that could use some UX attention, there's our website redesign which needs feedback, mockups and discussion, we still need artwork for the installer sidebar, etc etc.
So in addition to the design team having a lot of tasks right now, I hope that in the future we will see Fedora more design-lead and less feature-lead.
Speaking as someone who's working on Workstation these days, I would like it if UX designers from here would chime in more frequently on Workstation related discussion. -- -Elad Alfassa. _______________________________________________ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Firstly Sirko thanks for your work.
Please report it to the mailing list. To inform the team about it. We still do not have a free and open way of communication.
"So when the release manager comes to me and says where is the alpha wallpaper, we want to release now, I will surly not begin an disscusion on this list, I will make an decision." - Why release manager comes to you and not to the design team?
Best regards, Alexander Smirnov.
Member of Fedora Design Team.
2014-08-23 14:35 GMT+04:00 S.Kemter sirko.kemter@gmail.com:
Hi,
I dont understand this here, we have a schedule and its not hidden.
https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-21/f-21-design-tasks.html
Nobody here realized that the deadline for alpha wallpaper was on 3rd July, thats nearly 2 months ago. I find it very contra-productive to complain after a decision must be taken, because nobody took responsibility for doing something to move forward on the F21 wallpaper. We only was happy that alpha got delayed. So when the release manager comes to me and says where is the alpha wallpaper, we want to release now, I will surly not begin an disscusion on this list, I will make an decision. Which btw was not only made by myself.
br gnokii
2014-08-23 12:03 GMT+02:00 Elad Alfassa elad@fedoraproject.org:
Regarding the position of the design team in Fedora.Next, I think the
design team should be and is still relevant.
There are a lot of apps we have in the distribution (some of them are installed by default in Workstation) that could use some UX attention, there's our website redesign which needs feedback, mockups and discussion, we still need artwork for the installer sidebar, etc etc.
So in addition to the design team having a lot of tasks right now, I hope that in the future we will see Fedora more design-lead and less feature-lead.
Speaking as someone who's working on Workstation these days, I would like it if UX designers from here would chime in more frequently on Workstation related discussion. -- -Elad Alfassa. _______________________________________________ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
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Firstly Sirko thanks for your work.
Please report it to the mailing list. To inform the team about it. We still do not have a free and open way of communication.
"So when the release manager comes to me and says where is the alpha wallpaper, we want to release now, I will surly not begin an disscusion on this list, I will make an decision." - Why release manager comes to you and not to the design team ?
See my explanation in the email I sent - I was told on #fedora-design to work with Sirko when I asked. I'll make sure next time it goes through the proper channels :). Thanks Martin for posting it here.
Jaroslav
Best regards, Alexander Smirnov.
Member of Fedora Design Team.
2014-08-23 14:35 GMT+04:00 S.Kemter < sirko.kemter@gmail.com > :
Hi,
I dont understand this here, we have a schedule and its not hidden.
https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-21/f-21-design-tasks.html
Nobody here realized that the deadline for alpha wallpaper was on 3rd July, thats nearly 2 months ago. I find it very contra-productive to complain after a decision must be taken, because nobody took responsibility for doing something to move forward on the F21 wallpaper. We only was happy that alpha got delayed. So when the release manager comes to me and says where is the alpha wallpaper, we want to release now, I will surly not begin an disscusion on this list, I will make an decision. Which btw was not only made by myself.
br gnokii
2014-08-23 12:03 GMT+02:00 Elad Alfassa < elad@fedoraproject.org > :
Regarding the position of the design team in Fedora.Next, I think the design team should be and is still relevant.
There are a lot of apps we have in the distribution (some of them are installed by default in Workstation) that could use some UX attention, there's our website redesign which needs feedback, mockups and discussion, we still need artwork for the installer sidebar, etc etc.
So in addition to the design team having a lot of tasks right now, I hope that in the future we will see Fedora more design-lead and less feature-lead.
Speaking as someone who's working on Workstation these days, I would like it if UX designers from here would chime in more frequently on Workstation related discussion. -- -Elad Alfassa. _______________________________________________ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
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Ok the situation has cleared :) Thanks for the clarification.
Alexander.
2014-08-25 12:24 GMT+04:00 Jaroslav Reznik jreznik@redhat.com:
----- Original Message -----
Firstly Sirko thanks for your work.
Please report it to the mailing list. To inform the team about it. We still do not have a free and open way of communication.
"So when the release manager comes to me and says where is the alpha wallpaper, we want to release now, I will surly not begin an disscusion on this list, I will make an decision." - Why release manager comes to you and not to the design team ?
See my explanation in the email I sent - I was told on #fedora-design to work with Sirko when I asked. I'll make sure next time it goes through the proper channels :). Thanks Martin for posting it here.
Jaroslav
Best regards, Alexander Smirnov.
Member of Fedora Design Team.
2014-08-23 14:35 GMT+04:00 S.Kemter < sirko.kemter@gmail.com > :
Hi,
I dont understand this here, we have a schedule and its not hidden.
https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-21/f-21-design-tasks.html
Nobody here realized that the deadline for alpha wallpaper was on 3rd July, thats nearly 2 months ago. I find it very contra-productive to complain after a decision must be taken, because nobody took responsibility for doing something to move forward on the F21 wallpaper. We only was happy that alpha got delayed. So when the release manager comes to me and says where is the alpha wallpaper, we want to release now, I will surly not begin an disscusion on this list, I will make an decision. Which btw was not only made by myself.
br gnokii
2014-08-23 12:03 GMT+02:00 Elad Alfassa < elad@fedoraproject.org > :
Regarding the position of the design team in Fedora.Next, I think the design team should be and is still relevant.
There are a lot of apps we have in the distribution (some of them are installed by default in Workstation) that could use some UX attention, there's our website redesign which needs feedback, mockups and discussion, we still need artwork for the installer sidebar, etc etc.
So in addition to the design team having a lot of tasks right now, I hope that in the future we will see Fedora more design-lead and less feature-lead.
Speaking as someone who's working on Workstation these days, I would like it if UX designers from here would chime in more frequently on Workstation related discussion. -- -Elad Alfassa. _______________________________________________ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
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----- Original Message -----
Hi,
I dont understand this here, we have a schedule and its not hidden.
https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-21/f-21-design-tasks.html
Nobody here realized that the deadline for alpha wallpaper was on 3rd July, thats nearly 2 months ago. I find it very contra-productive to complain after a decision must be taken, because nobody took responsibility for doing something to move forward on the F21 wallpaper. We only was happy that alpha got delayed. So when the release manager comes to me and says where is the alpha wallpaper, we want to release now, I will surly not begin an disscusion on this list, I will make an decision. Which btw was not only made by myself.
Thanks Gnokii for putting it together, I take my responsibility for this decision.
I was told Gnokii is working on wallpaper, so I tried to work with him to have at least something ready (and then F21 slipped again). Take it as heads up it's the right time to put some more effort into it :).
I just really want to mitigate all other risks that could delay F21 more before we hit these issues, nothing more, nothing less. It's not related to Fedora.next even it's probably going to make communication a bit more difficult in the future but it would be push to make all stuff more transparent in the end.
For package naming - f21-backgrounds works for me. Maybe in the future we would need product specific wps but it can be done as subpackages if needed. Or someone can restart Fedora names again :).
Jaroslav
br gnokii
2014-08-23 12:03 GMT+02:00 Elad Alfassa < elad@fedoraproject.org > :
Regarding the position of the design team in Fedora.Next, I think the design team should be and is still relevant.
There are a lot of apps we have in the distribution (some of them are installed by default in Workstation) that could use some UX attention, there's our website redesign which needs feedback, mockups and discussion, we still need artwork for the installer sidebar, etc etc.
So in addition to the design team having a lot of tasks right now, I hope that in the future we will see Fedora more design-lead and less feature-lead.
Speaking as someone who's working on Workstation these days, I would like it if UX designers from here would chime in more frequently on Workstation related discussion. -- -Elad Alfassa. _______________________________________________ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
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As someone with more UX skills than artwork skills I'm not really seeing the UX requests from applications coming through our ticket system (and I'm not on IRC to be honest).
I've been mostly inactive but listening for some time now. Did I miss some key requests? The trac list [1] shows very few of these kinds of requests.
I think the planned FAD, where the team identifies the key services we perform and where we track requests and current work will help clarify things a lot. As someone who can only attend in a remote manner I hope that is set up (I added my name to the wiki page as a remote attendee).
Elad I'm not chiming in because I'm not seeing the conversations - are they happening on IRC?
Kirk
[1] https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/report/1?sort=created&asc=0&pag...
On 08/23/2014 03:03 AM, Elad Alfassa wrote:
Regarding the position of the design team in Fedora.Next, I think the design team should be and is still relevant.
There are a lot of apps we have in the distribution (some of them are installed by default in Workstation) that could use some UX attention, there's our website redesign which needs feedback, mockups and discussion, we still need artwork for the installer sidebar, etc etc.
So in addition to the design team having a lot of tasks right now, I hope that in the future we will see Fedora more design-lead and less feature-lead.
Speaking as someone who's working on Workstation these days, I would like it if UX designers from here would chime in more frequently on Workstation related discussion.
Hey Kirk.
On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 6:52 PM, Kirk Bridger kirk@thebside.ca wrote:
As someone with more UX skills than artwork skills I'm not really seeing the UX requests from applications coming through our ticket system (and I'm not on IRC to be honest).
I've been mostly inactive but listening for some time now. Did I miss some key requests? The trac list [1] shows very few of these kinds of requests.
Most of these conversations are not happening at all. Since maintainers don't approach designers, I think we need to do this the other way around: Designers should find apps which require design attention, and file bugs about UX problems in them and submit mockups.
Some apps which I think could use some design attention: * firewall-config * selinux troubleshooter * gnome-abrt (in this case the maintainer is already listening to design feedback and implementing fixes, which is great, but more design input would be useful) * DevAssistant *
I'm aware that in the past work was being done at least on some of these apps, but they have a lot of UX problems which should be addressed in my opinion - and I'm not saying designers who work / worked on these apps do / did a bad job, I'm just saying there's more to be done.
And I'm sure there are a lot more apps in Fedora which could use design attention.
I think the planned FAD, where the team identifies the key services we perform and where we track requests and current work will help clarify things a lot. As someone who can only attend in a remote manner I hope that is set up (I added my name to the wiki page as a remote attendee).
Sure, that is a good plan.
Elad I'm not chiming in because I'm not seeing the conversations - are they happening on IRC?
Workstation specific discussions are mostly held in the fedora-desktop list.
On 08/23/2014 09:01 AM, Elad Alfassa wrote:
Most of these conversations are not happening at all. Since maintainers don't approach designers, I think we need to do this the other way around: Designers should find apps which require design attention, and file bugs about UX problems in them and submit mockups.
Some apps which I think could use some design attention:
- firewall-config
- selinux troubleshooter
- gnome-abrt (in this case the maintainer is already listening to
design feedback and implementing fixes, which is great, but more design input would be useful)
- DevAssistant
I'm aware that in the past work was being done at least on some of these apps, but they have a lot of UX problems which should be addressed in my opinion - and I'm not saying designers who work / worked on these apps do / did a bad job, I'm just saying there's more to be done.
And I'm sure there are a lot more apps in Fedora which could use design attention.
I think that is an interesting approach of blending both artwork and design stuff. Those are one of strongest aspect both Mint, OpenSUSE and Ubuntu did well so our Design Team can take note and expand beyond the simple wallpaper work. Now that GTK3 is out (http://blogs.gnome.org/aday/2014/08/21/new-human-interface-guidelines-for-gn...), it will be a good opportunity to learn the convention and made a mockup for the listed applications. Same thing of other DE like KDE and Enlightenment.
Long term benefits will be new extra skills valuable in real world.
Could someone direct me to the wiki page for signing up for the FAD, I can't seem to find it.
Also are we currently looking for a new way to track assignments and work? Or are we sticking with trac?
On Saturday, August 23, 2014, Kirk Bridger kirk@thebside.ca wrote:
As someone with more UX skills than artwork skills I'm not really seeing the UX requests from applications coming through our ticket system (and I'm not on IRC to be honest).
I've been mostly inactive but listening for some time now. Did I miss some key requests? The trac list [1] shows very few of these kinds of requests.
I think the planned FAD, where the team identifies the key services we perform and where we track requests and current work will help clarify things a lot. As someone who can only attend in a remote manner I hope that is set up (I added my name to the wiki page as a remote attendee).
Elad I'm not chiming in because I'm not seeing the conversations - are they happening on IRC?
Kirk
[1] https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/report/1?sort=created&asc=0&pag...
On 08/23/2014 03:03 AM, Elad Alfassa wrote:
Regarding the position of the design team in Fedora.Next, I think the design team should be and is still relevant.
There are a lot of apps we have in the distribution (some of them are installed by default in Workstation) that could use some UX attention, there's our website redesign which needs feedback, mockups and discussion, we still need artwork for the installer sidebar, etc etc.
So in addition to the design team having a lot of tasks right now, I hope that in the future we will see Fedora more design-lead and less feature-lead.
Speaking as someone who's working on Workstation these days, I would like it if UX designers from here would chime in more frequently on Workstation related discussion.
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On 08/23/2014 09:02 AM, Zachary Snyder wrote:
Could someone direct me to the wiki page for signing up for the FAD, I can't seem to find it.
Also are we currently looking for a new way to track assignments and work? Or are we sticking with trac?
Here is : https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_DesignTeam_2014
On Sat, 2014-08-23 at 13:03 +0300, Elad Alfassa wrote:we still need artwork for the installer sidebar, etcwe still need artwork for the installer sidebar, etc
we still need artwork for the installer sidebar, etc etc.
You mean anaconda? Absolutely
I find the anaconda installation screen uneventful. Lots of design oops (I mean redundant screen spaces, like the blue side bar having nothing on it OR the animated feature art taking an apologetic position at the bottom). I actually took a screen-shot [1], did a little critique/analysis [2] and was hoping to propose some changes [3]
[1] https://twohot.fedorapeople.org/design/ui/anaconda/anaconda-install-f21-rawh... [2] https://twohot.fedorapeople.org/design/ui/anaconda/anaconda-install-ui-f21-c... [3] https://twohot.fedorapeople.org/design/ui/anaconda/anaconda-install-ui-f21-p...
Speaking as someone who's working on Workstation these days, I would like it if UX designers from here would chime in more frequently on Workstation related discussion.
Where?
Regards twohot
On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 18:30:15 +0100 Onyeibo Oku wrote:
On Sat, 2014-08-23 at 13:03 +0300, Elad Alfassa wrote:we still need artwork for the installer sidebar, etcwe still need artwork for the installer sidebar, etc
we still need artwork for the installer sidebar, etc etc.
You mean anaconda? Absolutely
I find the anaconda installation screen uneventful. Lots of design oops (I mean redundant screen spaces, like the blue side bar having nothing on it OR the animated feature art taking an apologetic position at the bottom). I actually took a screen-shot [1], did a little critique/analysis [2] and was hoping to propose some changes [3]
[1] https://twohot.fedorapeople.org/design/ui/anaconda/anaconda-install-f21-rawh... [2] https://twohot.fedorapeople.org/design/ui/anaconda/anaconda-install-ui-f21-c... [3] https://twohot.fedorapeople.org/design/ui/anaconda/anaconda-install-ui-f21-p...
Since I'm not a fan of the whole anaconda UI redesign at all, I'll try to keep constructive and less constructive feedback separate.
Within the concept, I have to say I like your proposal much better than the original screen. Less wasted space, yet all the components have enough space to breathe. Nothing screams at you (yes, that's what CAPITAL LETTERS usually mean; use Small Caps if you want to be fancier than Title Case). +1 from me.
A bit of rant-like complain, probably non-productive, but I still want to make some things clear:
* It's an installer for heavens sake, why is the UI so hugely parallel? Nothing is actually streamlined, I don't know what I have forgot to set up, I expect an easy ride with Next, Next, Next, i.e. a linear approach with skip-able steps. I used this installer a couple of times for Fedora 20 and CentOS 7 and I still felt confused every time I used it. Unlike with the old Anaconda or even Windows installers.
* I really dislike the current trend for simplistic approach to artwork. I expect icons to have distinctive outlines, colours, not something that has only shape and that's sometimes really hard to recognize. I expect scrollbars and progress bars to be more than coloured (if I'm lucky) rectangles... But maybe I'm the odd one here. Half of the web looks like that... :-( That especially goes for anaconda. The icons in the installer are, IMHO, bland and blend with the background instead of standing out and attracting attention.
Sorry if I went too ballistic.
Regards, Martin
Hi all,
I just submitted a package review for f21-backgrounds: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1133217
easy review, but needed ASAP.
I decided to stick with the f21-backgrounds name, it's easier to write, remember and more sane, IMHO, than twentyone and the two choices were (including my personal vote) tied.
Regards, Martin
I would think it would be better to name this package twentyone-backgrounds.
+1 Elad Alfassa.
2014-08-23 2:02 GMT+04:00 Elad Alfassa elad@fedoraproject.org:
I would think it would be better to name this package twentyone-backgrounds.
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On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 1:26 AM, Onyeibo Oku twohotis@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, 2014-08-23 at 01:02 +0300, Elad Alfassa wrote:
I would think it would be better to name this package twentyone-backgrounds.
a little misleading. Are they twenty-one backgrounds in there? How about f21-backgrounds?
Just thinking
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That would work too.
The mention of "phoenix" in the name is weird for many reasons. There's no phoenix in the background, and historically the background packages followed the release name - but now we don't have a release name: it's simply Fedora 21.
well, I know I may be late or anything, but I was messing around in blender and produced this [1], maybe it could be of any help for future versions?
Sam_
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Il giorno sab, 23/08/2014 alle 01.29 +0300, Elad Alfassa ha scritto:
On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 1:26 AM, Onyeibo Oku twohotis@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, 2014-08-23 at 01:02 +0300, Elad Alfassa wrote:
I would think it would be better to name this package twentyone-backgrounds.
a little misleading. Are they twenty-one backgrounds in there? How about f21-backgrounds?
Just thinking
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That would work too.
The mention of "phoenix" in the name is weird for many reasons. There's no phoenix in the background, and historically the background packages followed the release name - but now we don't have a release name: it's simply Fedora 21.
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