Hi,
Now where F30 aka Fresnel is in a stage, where it becomes acceptable as theming for our always awesome looking distribution its time to speak about the future.
I think the way we do with the voting and following the letter scheme with inventors works so far fine for us. But there are some negative things:
a) it might be just me but I have the feeling, that the timing isnt right anymore. We have lesser time to work on ideas we have and finalize them.
b) people still want their saying in it, I filter out votes from outside the design team
For a) I might have a solution, we just start earlier with the voting process. We could already start for F31 now and have the result before F30 is released. That should give us more time and we even can vote for F32 already what would give as even more time. Time we might need in the future but also bringing some other things back. The need for release banners and stuff like this is still there but it always depends on the progress of the work. I mean we finished a banner for F29 just a week ago, so way after the release itself. And the future might bring us even more work.
So if you can agree to this, I already have prepared the votings for F31 and F32, so opinions?
for b) I have spoken a while back with Mo already of this, but she was not convinced. Looking back into our past, the problem we had with the "codenaming" was simple that the line in the table "possible design ideas" was nearly never filled and it became more and more crazy with the names then and we had an harder and harder job. So the problem is not finding a name as more for us the name is a starting point which we have to connect to an visualisation. So people want to have their saying and we want also ideas not just the vote for a name. The solution for this is let them vote when they give as an visual idea for it. But there the limitations of the way I so far use start. It is possible to add an upload field to google forms the uploads go to my google drive, as on google always size is not an issue, I can let them upload until 1TB, the problems are you have to do with your google account and we have to find a way how we as design team can look at it. Should be not the problem I can share the folder with the team. Problem is more its legally a greyzone as google drive is for personal use. So in long term a small app has to do this job, its same coding effort as nuancier was, think we could convince our heros to help us.
But here more the question, do we want to test that for F31 and/or F32 how people take this? So what are the opinions?
br gnokii
Hi,
I noticed the lack of time to design and develop ideas, I always been busy and with a rather rubbish internet connection, so I haven't been very useful on this. Starting earlier sounds sensible. Maybe we could start with a release in advance? Like, if we're on 30, starting with 32 design. That would give plenty of time to shuffle ideas and refine design. About using Google Drive to eventually develop an app for the team... I would be happy to test it. I would also like to note that the design in the installation screen dates back to Beefy Miracle and it's quite... awkward. Some fresh design there would be appreciated.
Kind regards, Silvia FAS: Lailah
On Sun, 10 Mar 2019 at 08:36, S.Kemter sirko.kemter@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
No opinions on this?
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Am 10.03.19 um 23:13 schrieb Kirk Bridger:
I'm not a contributor to many of these activities nowadays so won't pretend to know how to do things better.
I will say though that I'm not a huge fan of using Google for our work, not just legally but ethically.
I am not a big fan either, thats why I said for testing but then we have to find a way to replace it
There are plenty of open source file storage options available that I'd rather see used. If nothing perfectly meets our needs we can perhaps work with the community to build add-ons or features that will work perfectly. For example NextCloud.
its not just a file upload we doing there, that is what just is added then.
br gnokii
Kirk
On 2019-03-10 12:36 a.m., S.Kemter wrote:
Hi,
No opinions on this?
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Hi,
Its maybe a good idea to show how it will look like:
https://goo.gl/forms/mWLp3YSGoaSmTtus1
Am 10.03.19 um 23:13 schrieb Kirk Bridger:
I'm not a contributor to many of these activities nowadays so won't pretend to know how to do things better.
I will say though that I'm not a huge fan of using Google for our work, not just legally but ethically. There are plenty of open source file storage options available that I'd rather see used. If nothing perfectly meets our needs we can perhaps work with the community to build add-ons or features that will work perfectly. For example NextCloud.
Kirk
On 2019-03-10 12:36 a.m., S.Kemter wrote:
Hi,
No opinions on this?
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But Nextcloud needs someone to have this installed in his or her own server. If someone is happy to do this, Nextcloud has some interesting features. But then how can people join? Adding permissions one by one? Sending a link by email? Other? Is there any open source solution that is similar to Google Drive?
On Sun, 10 Mar 2019 at 16:14, Kirk Bridger kirk@thebside.ca wrote:
I'm not a contributor to many of these activities nowadays so won't pretend to know how to do things better.
I will say though that I'm not a huge fan of using Google for our work, not just legally but ethically. There are plenty of open source file storage options available that I'd rather see used. If nothing perfectly meets our needs we can perhaps work with the community to build add-ons or features that will work perfectly. For example NextCloud.
Kirk
On 2019-03-10 12:36 a.m., S.Kemter wrote:
Hi,
No opinions on this?
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Alternatives to Google Drive: https://owncloud.com/ http://www.sparkleshare.org/
Its maybe a good idea to show how it will look like: https://goo.gl/forms/mWLp3YSGoaSmTtus1
Not bad. Not bad at all. Is the form receiving inputs now?
Regards Onyeibo
On Sun, 2019-03-10 at 16:26 +0000, Frau Silvia Sánchez wrote:
But Nextcloud needs someone to have this installed in his or her own server. If someone is happy to do this, Nextcloud has some interesting features. But then how can people join? Adding permissions one by one? Sending a link by email? Other? Is there any open source solution that is similar to Google Drive?
Am 11.03.19 um 01:29 schrieb Onyeibo Oku:
Alternatives to Google Drive: https://owncloud.com/ http://www.sparkleshare.org/
there is no need for any alternatives, there was never this question. The first and only question was if we want to open the process this way or not.
Its maybe a good idea to show how it will look like: https://goo.gl/forms/mWLp3YSGoaSmTtus1
Not bad. Not bad at all. Is the form receiving inputs now?
it can receive data yes, but its not the one I will use for the process, not before we know if we want to do it or not
br gnokii
Regards Onyeibo
On Sun, 2019-03-10 at 16:26 +0000, Frau Silvia Sánchez wrote:
But Nextcloud needs someone to have this installed in his or her own server. If someone is happy to do this, Nextcloud has some interesting features. But then how can people join? Adding permissions one by one? Sending a link by email? Other? Is there any open source solution that is similar to Google Drive?
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Onyeibo,
Those suggestions are not the same as Google Drive or similar, they're both self-hosted. They're more cloud/backup solutions. In those cases, who's going to host? How do you share content in such a way that is easily accessible to everyone in the team?
Regards, Silvia FAS: Lailah
On Sun, 10 Mar 2019 at 18:41, Onyeibo Oku onyeibo@schemefusion.com wrote:
Alternatives to Google Drive: https://owncloud.com/ http://www.sparkleshare.org/
Its maybe a good idea to show how it will look like: https://goo.gl/forms/mWLp3YSGoaSmTtus1
Not bad. Not bad at all. Is the form receiving inputs now?
Regards Onyeibo
On Sun, 2019-03-10 at 16:26 +0000, Frau Silvia Sánchez wrote:
But Nextcloud needs someone to have this installed in his or her own server. If someone is happy to do this, Nextcloud has some interesting features. But then how can people join? Adding permissions one by one? Sending a link by email? Other? Is there any open source solution that is similar to Google Drive?
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Hi
Am 11.03.19 um 01:47 schrieb Kirk Bridger:
I host a NextCloud instance and am happy to offer it to the team to explore POC or whatever. Ultimately if the Design Team needs infrastructure I'm not sure Fedora would want this to be the final solution?
If we wanted to think a little more about the workflow that gnokki does for the processing, and maybe have additional hands help process things, we could set up a more transparent workflow tool like a KanBan board or something.
https://github.com/nextcloud/deck
Or we could explore the file upload and automatic tagging.
Feels like I'm solutioning without really knowing what the requirements/problems are though.
exactly
Kirk
On 2019-03-10 9:26 a.m., Frau Silvia Sánchez wrote:
But Nextcloud needs someone to have this installed in his or her own server. If someone is happy to do this, Nextcloud has some interesting features. But then how can people join? Adding permissions one by one? Sending a link by email? Other? Is there any open source solution that is similar to Google Drive?
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