fedora-join October 2016

fedora-join@lists.fedoraproject.org

7 participants
9 discussions

[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Fedora Join
by Ankur Sinha 31 Oct '16

31 Oct '16

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Fedora Join on 2016-10-10 from 16:00:00 to 17:00:00 Europe/London At fedora-meeting-3(a)irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: Please take a look at the issues tagged "meeting" on the list here: [https://pagure.io/fedora-join/fedora-join/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting](… We'll follow the standard IRC meeting protocol: [https://pagure.io/fedora-meeting-SOP](https://pagure.io/fedora-meeting-SOP) See you there! Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/4684/

3 2

Readying the Fedora Join channels to receive newcomers
by Ankur Sinha 31 Oct '16

31 Oct '16

Hiya! I've sent this out to the announce mailing list, and a post on the commblog is scheduled to go live on November 10 too. Please spread the word :) --------------------------------------------------------------------- Hello everyone, Like any FOSS community project, Fedora relies heavily on volunteers. It is, therefore, no surprise that we're always looking to increase our contributor base. There is always so much to be done. Of course, many teams work in harmony to keep Fedora ticking. Each team tends to have its own "on-boarding process" for newcomers, which if you've been around recently, you'll have noticed CommOps[0] has been working on improving one by one. Where do we point newcomers now? -------------------------------- We already have some tools that help people find the right team and task to get started with. whatcanidoforfedora.org[1], for example, does an excellent job of matching people to the right team based on their skills and interests. Another great place to quickly find something easy to work on is our easy fix ticket list[2]. Last, but not least, the new Fedora Hubs project[3], which is still a work in progress, is going to make it even easier to see what's going on in the community and where one can pitch in. Talking to a human ------------------ In spite of all the tooling, newcomers seem to respond better to human interaction. Integration is much easier when you have people to speak to or query. Even while they're still picking up on the tools and processes of various teams, they already feel part of the community. It gives them that bit of confidence needed to actively take part in discussions or volunteer to take up tasks. With this in mind, some of us came together to set up the Fedora Join SIG[4]. Our goal? Simply to set up certain channels where newcomers and contributors can mix. We've started small with the usual IRC and mailing list. - #fedora-join on Freenode[5] - fedora-join AT lists.fedoraproject.org[6] We need your help too! ---------------------- Before we begin tweaking our public-facing resources to funnel newcomers into these channels, we want to make sure that we have enough contributors available here to receive queries. The purpose of this e- mail is to ask you to please add these channels to the list that you already monitor. The more contributors from different parts of the project we have in the channel, the higher the chances are of newcomers finding interesting people to work with, interesting things to work on, all while making friends who mostly outlast the Fedora release. So, please do hang out in our IRC channel and mailing list to help newcomers when you can. Tip: Most IRC clients let you monitor a channel for keywords. For example, in irssi[7], the following command would monitor the channel for the word "design": /hilight -channels #fedora-join design [0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CommOps [1] http://whatcanidoforfedora.org/ [2] https://fedoraproject.org/easyfix [3] https://pagure.io/fedora-hubs [4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Join_SIG [5] https://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#fedora-join [6] https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/fedora-join@lists.fedoraproject… [7] https://irssi.org/ -- Thanks, Regards, Ankur Sinha "FranciscoD" http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha

1 0

Meeting logs - 24 October 2016
by Ankur Sinha 24 Oct '16

24 Oct '16

Hiya, We had another good meeting today. The idea was to brainstorm on what tasks we need to work on to get the SIG going. We decided to work on visibility within the project - i.e., making the community aware of our presence. Of course, I'll blog about the meeting too. I've put up a pirate pad here if others want to weigh in and add ideas: http://piratepad.net/GQCpFqZ4wI The complete logs are here: 17:05 <@zodbot> Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-3/2016-10-24/joinsig.2016-… 17:05 <@zodbot> Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-3/2016-10-24/joinsig.2016-… 17:05 <@zodbot> Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-3/2016-10-24/joinsig.2016-… Text minutes pasted below: =========================================== #fedora-meeting-3: "Fedora Join 24-10-2016" =========================================== Meeting started by FranciscoD at 15:03:09 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-3/2016-10-24/joinsig.2016-… Meeting summary --------------- * Roll call (FranciscoD, 15:03:50) * Recap and agenda (FranciscoD, 15:06:09) * newly off the presses we have a UPDATED F24 ISO and torrent suite (with the Dirty Cow Patched 4.7.9-200 available on alt server or via shortlink [ http://tinyurl.com/live-respins2/] (linuxmodder, 15:06:26) * In the past meeting, we discussed what the specific goal of the SIG is - and how we'll make sure we don't clash with CommOps (FranciscoD, 15:06:50) * We agreed that while CommOps was working on improving the onboarding process for all SIGs in general, and developing tools and all that, we would focus on providing communications channels to enable newbies to get in touch with existing community members (FranciscoD, 15:07:44) * Agenda: Since we agreed on that, the next step is to brain storm what specific tasks we'll undertake towards our goal (FranciscoD, 15:09:08) * Channels we've set up - #fedora-join on Freenode, fedora-join(a)lists.fedoraproject.org (FranciscoD, 15:10:55) * IDEAS (FranciscoD, 15:12:00) * Please put all your ideas on this piratepad: http://piratepad.net/GQCpFqZ4wI (FranciscoD, 15:15:16) * ACTION: FranciscoD file ticket with CommOps to see how wcidff can be improved (FranciscoD, 15:30:57) * Brainstorming ways to improve Join SIG visibility (jflory7, 15:39:11) * IDEA: Community Blog post highlighting the Join SIG as a place to get started (jflory7, 15:39:52) * IDEA: Promoting post on social media (jflory7, 15:39:57) * IDEA: An announcement on a mailing list(s) about the Join SIG being a place to funnel newcomers? (jflory7, 15:40:16) * FCAIC (bexelbie) will likely not be available until late November (jflory7, 15:41:02) * IDEA: Incorporate links to the Join SIG in /other/ groups on-boarding processes? (e.g. "Need to talk to a person? Come find us to get help!") (jflory7, 15:41:48) * IDEA: See if we can add a link to Join in wcidff footer (FranciscoD, 15:42:13) * ACTION: FranciscoD ask -admin about the possibility of adding a link to Join in the wiki header/footer/sidebar (FranciscoD, 15:43:18) * Next meeting to be a status check to see if our in-reach has had an effect (FranciscoD, 15:58:52) * ACTION: FranciscoD file tickets for both announce ML post + commblog post (FranciscoD, 15:59:09) * ACTION: FranciscoD see if IRC logs can be parsed to give us some metrics (FranciscoD, 15:59:26) * Openfloor (FranciscoD, 16:00:24) Meeting ended at 16:06:02 UTC. Action Items ------------ * FranciscoD file ticket with CommOps to see how wcidff can be improved * FranciscoD ask -admin about the possibility of adding a link to Join in the wiki header/footer/sidebar * FranciscoD file tickets for both announce ML post + commblog post * FranciscoD see if IRC logs can be parsed to give us some metrics Action Items, by person ----------------------- * FranciscoD * FranciscoD file ticket with CommOps to see how wcidff can be improved * FranciscoD ask -admin about the possibility of adding a link to Join in the wiki header/footer/sidebar * FranciscoD file tickets for both announce ML post + commblog post * FranciscoD see if IRC logs can be parsed to give us some metrics * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * FranciscoD (166) * jflory7 (102) * linuxmodder (59) * Rhea (33) * skamath (17) * zodbot (14) * mailga (13) * Southern_Gentlem (0) -- Thanks, Regards, Ankur Sinha "FranciscoD" http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha

1 1

[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Fedora Join
by Ankur Sinha 24 Oct '16

24 Oct '16

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Fedora Join on 2016-10-24 from 16:00:00 to 17:00:00 Europe/London At fedora-meeting-3(a)irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: Please take a look at the issues tagged "meeting" on the list here: [https://pagure.io/fedora-join/fedora-join/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting](… We'll follow the standard IRC meeting protocol: [https://pagure.io/fedora-meeting-SOP](https://pagure.io/fedora-meeting-SOP) See you there! Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/4684/

2 1

Contributing to Fedora
by Vaishnav Sivadas 20 Oct '16

20 Oct '16

Hello there, I'm a Computer Science student studying at Amrita University, India and also an active FOSS club member here. I am totally new to open source development and wish to contribute to Fedora. Can I get suggestions for where to start? -- Vaishanav Sivadas Amrita University. Wordpress <https://vaishnavsivadas.wordpress.com/> | Github <https://github.com/vaishnavsivadas>

3 4

Please ping us when you're in the channel (I'm in the channel now!)
by Ankur Sinha 18 Oct '16

18 Oct '16

Hiya, I see a few subscribers to the list. If you'd like the chat, I'm in the #fedora-join channel now. https://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#fedora-join If you come around in the channel, just generally, please ping me (FranciscoD). A lot of us hang out in the channel but we don't monitor it actively. A ping notifies us :) -- Thanks, Regards, Ankur Sinha "FranciscoD" http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha

3 4

Meeting logs - October 10 2016
by Ankur Sinha 10 Oct '16

10 Oct '16

Hiya, We had quite a good meeting today. The primary agenda was to clarify the purpose of the SIG. Those present agreed that our current mission statement "to maintain and provide channels of communications to enable prospective contributors and community members to engage with each other" made sense, and does not overlap with other SIGs such as CommOps that are more involved in improving the onboarding processes and tooling. <takes a breath> The links for the logs are here, and the minutes are below. Please, reply with any questions or concerns so that we can address them before we re-announce our goal :) Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-3/2016-10-10/fedora-join_o… Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-3/2016-10-10/fedora-join_o… Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-3/2016-10-10/fedora-join_o… ============================================== #fedora-meeting-3: Fedora-Join October 10 2016 ============================================== Meeting started by FranciscoD at 15:00:58 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-3/2016-10-10/fedora-join_o… Meeting summary --------------- * rollcall (FranciscoD, 15:01:17) * F25 Beta is GO, release on October 11, 2016 (TOMORROW!) (FranciscoD, 15:06:11) * Static blog generators - Pelican (Python) is already in Fedora and now Jekyll (Ruby) will also be included (FranciscoD, 15:07:09) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Jekyll (FranciscoD, 15:07:16) * Odoo (the world's easiest all in one management software) will also be included in Fedora (FranciscoD, 15:08:03) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Odoo (FranciscoD, 15:08:06) * Discussion on devel list: "PROPOSAL: Blocking the release is our only "big hammer" -- let's add a softer one." (FranciscoD, 15:09:14) * LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org… (FranciscoD, 15:09:18) * announcements (FranciscoD, 15:09:54) * discussion over offline updates (again): "PSA: Do not run 'dnf update' inside GNOME, KDE or any other graphical desktop on Fedora 24" (FranciscoD, 15:10:31) * LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org… (FranciscoD, 15:10:36) * Agenda (FranciscoD, 15:12:36) * LINK: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-3/2016-09-26/fedora_join_2… (FranciscoD, 15:13:45) * Follow up discussion from last meeting over clarification of SIG's specific goals, targets, tasks (FranciscoD, 15:14:22) * LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/fedora-join@lists.fedoraproje… (FranciscoD, 15:14:37) * Fedora-Join general goal: "Make it easier for people to join the community and contribute" (FranciscoD, 15:15:22) * Goal is *too* general - in the sense that this can entail a myriad of activities (FranciscoD, 15:15:39) * For eg, CommOps working on streamlining onboarding process of different teams already (FranciscoD, 15:15:59) * Our specific aim is given here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Join_SIG#Aim (FranciscoD, 15:16:55) * "The Fedora Join SIG aims to set up and maintain channels that let prospective contributors engage with the community." (FranciscoD, 15:17:06) * we want to be a general place where contributors and prospective contributors can hang out and each can benefit from the relationship (FranciscoD, 15:17:56) * Hubs have an onboarding section (FranciscoD, 15:23:43) * Hubs have a help widget that lists tasks people need help with (FranciscoD, 15:23:56) * Hubs include workflow to enable people to create FAS and sign CLA etc (FranciscoD, 15:24:20) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-hubs/issue/raw/files/9998995815383a6f392ed567f0fe2… (FranciscoD, 15:26:08) * usually, someone turns up, after some surfing picks a team to join up, introduces themselves to the team members, gets to know them, works, makes friends, maybe even finds a mentor in the team, maybe begins to help another team later and then makes friends there, and repeat. (FranciscoD, 15:28:20) * someone turns up, finds us cool contributors hanging around here, speaks to us, makes friends, gets to know how the community works, our philosophy (and finds it awesome) and what teams we have, finds a mentor (community mentor as opposed to team specific mentor), picks one or more teams to work in, becomes a part of the community, not just a specific team in the community. (FranciscoD, 15:28:51) * newbies are not limited to team specific relationships (FranciscoD, 15:29:49) * newbies that join together can work together, even if they work in different teams (we're all always closer to our classmates than to seniors/juniors) (FranciscoD, 15:29:57) * they get a much better overall idea of how the community functions and are exposed to the workflows of different teams through us (including tooling, admin, process, goals, tasks, ninjas) (FranciscoD, 15:30:08) * they go on to develop into contributors that also have a good idea of how the multiple arms of the community work to keep Fedora going (FranciscoD, 15:30:17) * AGREED: (+1:4, 0:0, -1:0) Fedora Join limit itself to forming and maintaining channels that let prospective contributors engage with the community. The Aims on the wiki page stand: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Join_SIG#Aim (FranciscoD, 15:44:47) * open floor (FranciscoD, 15:45:06) * Point people with hybrid issues to updated spins: F24-20161001 updated lives available: http://tinyurl.com/Live-respins2 Thanks to the community of maintainers and seeders (FranciscoD, 15:46:30) * ACTION: FranciscoD bug jflory7 for feedback on today's decision to confirm (FranciscoD, 15:47:13) * ACTION: FranciscoD send out mails and summary (FranciscoD, 15:47:39) Meeting ended at 15:48:20 UTC. Action Items ------------ * FranciscoD bug jflory7 for feedback on today's decision to confirm * FranciscoD send out mails and summary Action Items, by person ----------------------- * FranciscoD * FranciscoD bug jflory7 for feedback on today's decision to confirm * FranciscoD send out mails and summary * jflory7 * FranciscoD bug jflory7 for feedback on today's decision to confirm * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) -- Thanks, Regards, Ankur Sinha "FranciscoD" http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha

1 0

Follow up from the meeting - what are our specific goals and what tasks will we undertake to achieve them?
by Ankur Sinha 10 Oct '16

10 Oct '16

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Hiya, So this is a follow up from the meeting we had. I've summarise some of it in a blog post that should hopefully show up on the planet[1]. During the meeting, we discussed how we need to ensure that the work that CommOps is doing towards improving the different teams' onboarding processes seems to overlap with the general goal of the Join SIG. So, to make sure we don't have two teams doing the same thing, we should come up with a set of specific goals and some example tasks that we can undertake to achieve these goals. I'm starting with the goals here, and once we have them listed and agreed to, we will begin working on ideas on how to achieve them. Good so far, I hope? OK. So, our aim is summarised on the wiki page here[2]. As it says, we want to establish a set of communication channels that enable newbies to speak to contributors and become part of the community socially even before they join a team and begin contributing. The point being that the common philosophy we all believe in, and the relationships we make because we share this view should bind us together, not only the work we do together, which should be a *result* of our commitment to our philosophy. Does that make sense? :D I'll explain this a little more - usually, someone turns up, after some surfing picks a team to join up, introduces themselves to the team members, gets to know them, works, makes friends, maybe even finds a mentor in the team, maybe begins to help another team later and then makes friends there, and repeat. What we think would be better is - someone turns up, finds us cool contributors hanging around here, speaks to us, makes friends, gets to know how the community works, our philosophy (and finds it awesome) and what teams we have, finds a mentor (community mentor as opposed to team specific mentor), picks one or more teams to work in, becomes a part of the community, not just a specific team in the community. The major differences in the two are the order in which things happen. We, or at least I think, that it is more beneficial for people to first become a social part of the community in general, build relationships, and then jump into work. The advantages of this order of onboarding are but not limited to: - - newbies are not limited to team specific relationships - - newbies that join together can work together, even if they work in different teams (we're all always closer to our classmates than to seniors/juniors) - - they get a much better overall idea of how the community functions and are exposed to the workflows of different teams through us (including tooling, admin, process, goals, tasks, ninjas) - - they go on to develop into contributors that also have a good idea of how the multiple arms of the community work to keep Fedora going So, what do people think about this, does this reasoning appear sound? So, our goals would be on the lines of: - - advertise our channels (ML, IRC, something else) as the first stop for prospective contributors - - act as a net to gather prospective contributors, help them socialise with the community and among themselves - - further, via our conversations with them, help them pick teams where they can contribute to - - further, keep a constant ongoing discussion about free software so that our first foundation is regularly reinforced Please do share your thoughts. If we can do this in the next few days, we can then summarise it during next Monday's meeting and begin working on ideas for tasks. :) [1] http://ankursinha.in/blog/2016/09/27/fedora-join-meeting-26-september-2016-… [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Join_SIG#Aim - -- Thanks, Regards, Ankur Sinha "FranciscoD" http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJX9CeeAAoJEPjYwL66yJi92uUIAJjgfWkVYaiy+p/TMC+8w/t/ YelGZz+VVBUaAsxkb3WFQHxd6wxVxvpiXQz+Gly+PFtPdVcsPW8hnno1hOjxdh1D 2gx1e/Oi/xV/O7695iGbviz5VCk3RqfaEX2F+HYQJD8n3njxt/IeEVjn6e57xeNh BnTFEhaySrCNfDTZ+L9I1zwSR2TlIYwRAaJf6IdX11ptV7eoNM6TAakqF4D70WL+ dx1GqZ7j//THWEiPJtVP3TuARajTRuGXfsPkiLTQo49vD685mb2BMeJZK6cWB9Pj lmnI0Vdabb/aXGVO3Uv/Ev/Lh274SN8F7UPOAaHqF1X/vf3YkCSxDdgnh0DW0XI= =ZDni -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

1 4

Re: Hello
by Justin W. Flory 04 Oct '16

04 Oct '16

On 09/18/2016 06:17 AM, Tech Support wrote: > Hello Justin, i need your help. I'm a student of computer science > (diploma) and i'm very enthusiastic about fedora, redhat and also > opensource. I don't know much about computer programming. I'm know only > basic concepts about C and C++. > > I want to contribute in fedora like file a bug of fedora operating > system, but i also want the badge from fedora. I think you are able to > understand me. > > You have 101 badge's, it's very cool. I know it's very hard to get it > but i'm very impressed after viewing your profile. I also want badge's > like you, but for this i need your help. > > I have Fas account and i also created wikipage as named as Abhishek Rajput. > > I asked many people are working redhat but i don't able to get > appreciate answer. > Today you shared your mail id with your commit that's why i'm mailing you. > > > can you help me ??? I need help like a Mentor or Teacher. Hi Abhishek, thanks for reaching out to me! Sorry for the late response from me to get back to you. I assume this was from the FOSS Wave on-boarding call on Sept. 18! Glad to know you are enthusiastic about contributing to Fedora! I think there are plenty of ways you can contribute to the project, and I'd be happy to help offer some pointers to get you started. I've CC'd the fedora-join mailing list in this reply to help allow some others in the community to offer feedback too. I recommend subscribing to this mailing list while you get started so you can see other replies as well. https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/fedora-join@lists.fedoraproject… To get started with contributing to Fedora, like I mentioned in the call, you want to get involved with something that is personally interesting and engaging to you. You mentioned you are familiar with the basics of C and C++. What are some of your current technical skills, or areas you are a little familiar with and want to improve? Also, what kind of areas in Fedora interest you? If you're not familiar with all of the different areas of Fedora, take a look at this website to get a feel for the different areas you can contribute. http://whatcanidoforfedora.org/ Let us know what some of your interests are and we'd be happy to offer you further pointers. :) -- Cheers, Justin W. Flory jflory7(a)fedoraproject.org

2 1

2024

2023

2022

2021

2020

2019

2018

2017

2016

2015

2014

2013

2012

fedora-join October 2016