fonts August 2008

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Re: contact kurditgroup
by Michal Nowak 13 Oct '08

13 Oct '08

ping? On 09:57 Wed 16 Jul , Michal Nowak wrote: > Hi Bardaqani, > > sorry for not being clear on this for the first time. > > The problem with GPL licensed font is that when you for example > create PDF file (like a book) the you usually embed the font inside > the document and then is anyone able to see it correct even > when he does not have the Kurdish font in system (really good thing). > > But: When you have used GPL font (like Unikurd Web) inside PDF file > then you must license the file/book as a GPL too! And that's the > problem. > > Because of this there's special Font Exception which solves that > problem. > > What would help us a lot: > > 1. Re-license the fonts from 'GPLv3' to 'GPLv3 + exception'. > Here's the link to such text: > http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#FontException > > 2. Write the text from the above link to the file gpl.txt inside > unikurdweb.zip file. > > > Solving points 1. and 2. will help us to distribute Your font in > Fedora and thus helpfull for Kurdish writing/speaking users in > general. > > Don't hesitate and write me in case of another questions or if > you need any further guidance. > > Thank you, > Michal > > > On 23:43 Tue 15 Jul , bardaqani bardaqani wrote: > > Dear Michal, > > How can help you? should we out the license inside a PDF or what? > > let me know > > > > cheers > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 12:47 AM, <mnowak(a)redhat.com> wrote: > > > > > <div dir='rtl' style='direction: rtl; text-align: right' align='right'>.Hi, > > > I wish I package some Unikurd fonts to Fedora Linux distribution > > > > > > The problem is actually the chosen license, which is plain GPLv3. Here you > > > can read why is the license not so well usable for usage e.g. inside PDF. > > > > > > > > > http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/gpl-faq.html#FontException > > > > > > Please reply to my email mnowak(a)redhat.com for further information or > > > point me to someone whom can I talk to. > > > > > > Thank you for you time, > > > Michal Nowak > > > > > > Michal Nowak   uid:0 > > > > > > 2008-07-15 > > > </div> > > >

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Font subsetting is patented?
by Vasile Gaburici 02 Sep '08

02 Sep '08

Seems to me this way: http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/6252671/description.html But IANAL...

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CC-ing the bugs list does not work?
by Vasile Gaburici 01 Sep '08

01 Sep '08

I've CC'd <fedora-fonts-bugs-list(a)redhat.com> on some bug reports I've sent to <tex-live(a)tug.org> (they don't use a bug tracker anymore), but the archives of fedora-fonts-bugs-list do show these messages... Does anyone know why?

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liberation-fonts is updated: fixed some hinting problems.
by Caius Carlos CHANCE 25 Aug '08

25 Aug '08

Hi, liberation-fonts (1.04.90.devel) is updated. There are some hinting problem fixes: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=785966 The files are available here: https://fedorahosted.org/releases/l/i/liberation-fonts/ Please feel free to provide your valuable feedback. Best Regards, Caius Chance. -- Caius Carlos Chance < cchance AT redhat DOT com > Red Hat APAC | http://apac.redhat.com/disclaimer/

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STIX license issues?
by Vasile Gaburici 16 Aug '08

16 Aug '08

I recall watching a Barbara Beeton's TUG talk recording that some people didn't like the STIX font license, and were waiting for the GUST Math font. Does anyone know what exactly the problems are? I see (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal_considerations_for_fonts#preferred-lice…) that Fedora considers the STIX license okay...

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FontForge FontView?
by Vasile Gaburici 16 Aug '08

16 Aug '08

According to http://fontforge.sourceforge.net/source-build.html, it's recommend to install the FontView bitmap font, which is used to label the font matrix entries, so you can visually check if you put the glyphs in the right slots. Shouldn't Fedora be shipping this? I know it's a bitmap font, but unless you're volunteering to move fontforge out of the X11 font world, FontView is needed to use it properly. According to http://khdd.net/kanou/fonts/ff/fontviewfont-en.html, FontView is a derivative of clearlyU, but with a lot more coverage (60K+ glyphs vs 9K+). Perhaps we should package FontView instead of clearlyU?

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Re: Problem enabling new language on gdm language selection list
by Rahul Bhalerao 14 Aug '08

14 Aug '08

On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Matthias Clasen <mclasen(a)redhat.com> wrote: > What gdm does it is only shows a language in the list if a) we have > translations for it and b) we have fonts for it. For b), we basically > ask fontconfig "do you have fonts for this language ?". It seems that > fontconfig says "no" if it doesn't know the language. It would be better > if fontconfig could say "I don't know" in that case... > Apart from these three conditions, even if fontconfig knows the language, is it necessary that fcfreetype.c has MAC language code defined for that language, in order to list it in gdm? When I tried adding .orth file, the "fc-list fontname lang" listed the appropriate language, but still it did not appear in gdm list until, the definitions were made in fcfreetype.c and ttnameid.h. Rahul.

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Re: Asana-Math: close but no cigar
by Vasile Gaburici 13 Aug '08

13 Aug '08

The STIX fonts do **NOT** currently have the math OpenType script. What this means is that they have nice collection of glyphs, but no special layout features, so they're pretty useless for actually typesetting something with them. The math script, aka MATH table, is a MS extension to OpenType. MS has not yet officially submitted any documentation for these math layout extensions -- and they are quite extensive -- not even in the draft 1.5/1.6 OpenType spec. Despite this, it is the de-facto OpenType math standard, and support for it has appeared in FOSS projects. These extensions are implemented only in the Cambria Math font (MS), and now in Asana Math (FOSS). Fonts using these extensions are currenly usable only in MS Office 2007 (and some other minor non-FOSS products), but out of the FOSS world only XeTeX supports them right now. LuaTeX is scheduled to add support by the end of this year, together with the release of the GUST Math font. On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 5:52 AM, Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams <ivazqueznet(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 05:41 +0300, Vasile Gaburici wrote: >> It's nice to see that the first (& only?) FOSS OpenType math font, > > STIXFonts? Well, not quite FOSS yet, but soon hopefully... > > http://www.stixfonts.org/user_license.html > > -- > Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams <ivazqueznet(a)gmail.com> >

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Asana-Math: close but no cigar
by Vasile Gaburici 12 Aug '08

12 Aug '08

It's nice to see that the first (& only?) FOSS OpenType math font, (and by that I mean one that has a math script, like Cambria Math), has been added to rawhide. But the font is currently useless in Fedora, because (i) our XeTeX is too old, and (ii) the unicode-math XeLaTeX package is not installed. Unlike most other TeX projects, XeTeX has it's own SNV repository. I've been using the svn version of XeTeX for a while now, mainly because I've reported some bugs upstream (and I mean to the real upstream, not TeXLive). The repository includes all the required texmf bits that XeTeX needs, but unicode-math is considered experimental so it's not installed even by the svn installation script, thus it's missing even in TeXLive 2008. But it works well enough for me and others on that have tried it, including typesetting the whole AMS test document. Given that we package xetex separately in texlive-xetex, and since it doesn't seem likely that we'll ship TeXLive 2008 anytime soon, I'd like to prose that we switch xetex to its own upstream sources instead of getting the obsolete version from TeXLive 2007. This will fix (i) without having to wait for TeXLive 2008 to get packaged. Since we'd be using the svn sources, we can easily add unicode-math - it just needs some files copied to texmf, so we'd fix (ii) as well.

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Re: Problem enabling new language on gdm language selection list
by Behdad Esfahbod 12 Aug '08

12 Aug '08

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Matthias Clasen wrote: > For b), we basically > ask fontconfig "do you have fonts for this language ?". It seems that > fontconfig says "no" if it doesn't know the language. It would be better > if fontconfig could say "I don't know" in that case... One way to detect that fontconfig doesn't know about the language is by querying the newly added FcLangGetCharSet(). It returns NULL if it doesn't know. behdad -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkihqqgACgkQn+4E5dNTERU5NgCbB/wfDVWBqzQjMYJxqyvOKNRL kAgAn3WV+V9VDVugPJ4Psq6Qn02d4o66 =dhTm -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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