I don't know if this is the correct place, but the wiki ( https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Eclipse ) pointed me here. I just wanted to inform you that it seems that the google-talkplugin makes eclipse totally unusable. It will crash everytime it loads webkit (which is about every 5 seconds for a normal eclipse developer, if I'm a good measurement). I was forced to spend a few hours of debugging (replacing system java, system eclipse aso) before I found this:
http://eclipseandlinux.blogspot.se/2013/10/google-talk-plugin-presence-break...
and also https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=334466 https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100622
I realize that the real problem here is to handle this in webkit, and not crash if plugins are bad. Or to just make google-talkplugin behave nicely. But it also seems weird that eclipse craches because some bad web browser plugin, I suggest to make eclipse use webkit without plugins support. Something like: webview.getSettings().setPluginsEnabled(false);
I think they did this with shotwell, to avoid a simmilar flash related crash: http://redmine.yorba.org/issues/2183
I think this is a quite serious crash, since many people depend on eclipse to work and quite a lot of them may have google-talkplugin installed. And I can also tell you that it is not the easiest problem to track down, since it is not the most obvious connection.
I hope this helps.
//Snaggen
Hi Mathias, The very same crash will happen even with Eclipse downloaded from Eclipse.org. So would you please open a bug report about this in https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/enter_bug.cgi?product=Platform against SWT component with this proposal? I would like to hear from other SWT developers what side effects this might have before doing such a change.
Alexander Kurtakov Red Hat Eclipse team
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From: "Mattias Eriksson" snaggen@gmail.com To: java-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 12:05:53 PM Subject: [fedora-java] Eclipse crashes on F20 with Google Talk plugin
I don't know if this is the correct place, but the wiki ( https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Eclipse ) pointed me here. I just wanted to inform you that it seems that the google-talkplugin makes eclipse totally unusable. It will crash everytime it loads webkit (which is about every 5 seconds for a normal eclipse developer, if I'm a good measurement). I was forced to spend a few hours of debugging (replacing system java, system eclipse aso) before I found this:
http://eclipseandlinux.blogspot.se/2013/10/google-talk-plugin-presence-break...
and also https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=334466 https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100622
I realize that the real problem here is to handle this in webkit, and not crash if plugins are bad. Or to just make google-talkplugin behave nicely. But it also seems weird that eclipse craches because some bad web browser plugin, I suggest to make eclipse use webkit without plugins support. Something like: webview.getSettings().setPluginsEnabled(false);
I think they did this with shotwell, to avoid a simmilar flash related crash: http://redmine.yorba.org/issues/2183
I think this is a quite serious crash, since many people depend on eclipse to work and quite a lot of them may have google-talkplugin installed. And I can also tell you that it is not the easiest problem to track down, since it is not the most obvious connection.
I hope this helps.
//Snaggen
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There is already an open bug upstream (see the link in my previous mail) and I added this suggestion to it. /Snaggen Den 17 nov 2013 10:42 skrev "Aleksandar Kurtakov" akurtako@redhat.com:
Hi Mathias, The very same crash will happen even with Eclipse downloaded from Eclipse.org. So would you please open a bug report about this in https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/enter_bug.cgi?product=Platform against SWT component with this proposal? I would like to hear from other SWT developers what side effects this might have before doing such a change.
Alexander Kurtakov Red Hat Eclipse team
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mattias Eriksson" snaggen@gmail.com To: java-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 12:05:53 PM Subject: [fedora-java] Eclipse crashes on F20 with Google Talk plugin
I don't know if this is the correct place, but the wiki ( https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Eclipse ) pointed me here. I just wanted to inform you that it seems that the google-talkplugin makes eclipse totally unusable. It will crash everytime it loads webkit (which is about every 5 seconds for a normal eclipse developer, if I'm a good measurement). I was forced to spend a few hours of debugging (replacing system java, system eclipse aso) before I found this:
http://eclipseandlinux.blogspot.se/2013/10/google-talk-plugin-presence-break...
and also https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=334466 https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100622
I realize that the real problem here is to handle this in webkit, and not crash if plugins are bad. Or to just make google-talkplugin behave nicely. But it also seems weird that eclipse craches because some bad web browser plugin, I suggest to make eclipse use webkit without plugins support. Something like: webview.getSettings().setPluginsEnabled(false);
I think they did this with shotwell, to avoid a simmilar flash related crash: http://redmine.yorba.org/issues/2183
I think this is a quite serious crash, since many people depend on eclipse to work and quite a lot of them may have google-talkplugin installed. And I can also tell you that it is not the easiest problem to track down, since it is not the most obvious connection.
I hope this helps.
//Snaggen
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It seems that there is another workaround for the eclipse case and that is to use mozilla for the webview[1]. Add "-Dorg.eclipse.swt.browser.DefaultType=mozilla" to the eclipse.ini file. That will not adress the real problem, but it would work as a short term solution.
//Snaggen [1] http://www.alexove.mallkudev.com/en/2013/11/16/changing-webkit-to-mozilla-in...
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