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Would it be possible to add compatible provides to the openjdk -devel package? Since OpenNMS uses Tomcat and/or Jetty, and does not precompile it's JSP files, we require a JDK at runtime.
Unfortunately, there are no provides that are the same across OpenJDK and Sun's Java:
Sun JDK: [ranger@nen ~]$ rpm -q --provides jdk jre = 1.5.0_15 j2sdk = 1.5.0_15 j2re = 1.5.0_15 jaxp_parser_impl xml-commons-apis jdk = 2000:1.5.0_15-fcs jaxp_parser_impl xml-commons-apis jdk = 2000:1.6.0_05-fcs
OpenJDK: [ranger@localhost opennms-1.6]$ rpm -q --provides \ ~ java-1.6.0-openjdk-devel java-1.6.0-devel = 1:1.6.0.0 java-1.7.0-icedtea-devel = 0:1.7.0.0-0.999 java-devel = 1:1.6.0 java-devel-openjdk = 1:1.6.0.0 java-sdk = 1:1.6.0 java-sdk-1.6.0 = 1:1.6.0.0 java-sdk-1.6.0-openjdk = 1:1.6.0.0 java-sdk-openjdk = 1:1.6.0.0 lib.so libunpack.so java-1.6.0-openjdk-devel = 1:1.6.0.0-0.13.b09.fc9
- -- Benjamin Reed The OpenNMS Group http://www.opennms.org/
Hi,
On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 17:05 -0400, Benjamin Reed wrote:
Would it be possible to add compatible provides to the openjdk -devel package? [...] Unfortunately, there are no provides that are the same across OpenJDK and Sun's Java:
You mean the Sun-distributed RPM, right? I've heard many complaints over the years about issues with it but it doesn't seem that it's going to change any time soon. If I had to guess, I'd say the OpenJDK packages provide the same things as the JPackage Sun, etc. nosrc RPMs.
Tom can clarify since he maintains the OpenJDK packages.
Andrew
Andrew Overholt wrote:
Hi,
On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 17:05 -0400, Benjamin Reed wrote:
Would it be possible to add compatible provides to the openjdk -devel package? [...] Unfortunately, there are no provides that are the same across OpenJDK and Sun's Java:
You mean the Sun-distributed RPM, right? I've heard many complaints over the years about issues with it but it doesn't seem that it's going to change any time soon. If I had to guess, I'd say the OpenJDK packages provide the same things as the JPackage Sun, etc. nosrc RPMs.
Tom can clarify since he maintains the OpenJDK packages.
Right, but since you do have control over the OpenJDK rpms, adding a "Provides: jdk = 1.6.0" would help.
Right now I had to make a dummy "jdk" package that requires "openjdk >= 1.5" so that our existing RPMs install without issue...
On Fri, 2008-06-13 at 10:02 -0400, Benjamin Reed wrote:
Andrew Overholt wrote:
Hi,
On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 17:05 -0400, Benjamin Reed wrote:
Would it be possible to add compatible provides to the openjdk -devel package? [...] Unfortunately, there are no provides that are the same across OpenJDK and Sun's Java:
You mean the Sun-distributed RPM, right? I've heard many complaints over the years about issues with it but it doesn't seem that it's going to change any time soon. If I had to guess, I'd say the OpenJDK packages provide the same things as the JPackage Sun, etc. nosrc RPMs.
Tom can clarify since he maintains the OpenJDK packages.
Right, but since you do have control over the OpenJDK rpms, adding a "Provides: jdk = 1.6.0" would help.
Sorry, I didn't mean to imply this wasn't possible. I'd still like to hear from Tom about this, though.
Andrew
Andrew Haley wrote:
Benjamin Reed wrote:
Would it be possible to add compatible provides to the openjdk -devel package? Since OpenNMS uses Tomcat and/or Jetty, and does not precompile it's JSP files, we require a JDK at runtime.
Does OpenNMS really not work at all with gcj?
Correct.
I haven't tried for a while, but last I did, it blew up. OpenNMS is a rather large app, and exercises garbage collection in interesting and destructive ways. ;)
It's been a while since we've tried, I can give it another shot and open bugs...
Benjamin Reed wrote:
Andrew Haley wrote:
Benjamin Reed wrote:
Would it be possible to add compatible provides to the openjdk -devel package? Since OpenNMS uses Tomcat and/or Jetty, and does not precompile it's JSP files, we require a JDK at runtime.
Does OpenNMS really not work at all with gcj?
Correct.
I haven't tried for a while, but last I did, it blew up. OpenNMS is a rather large app, and exercises garbage collection in interesting and destructive ways. ;)
It's been a while since we've tried, I can give it another shot and open bugs...
That's not absolutely necessary, as long as you've tried with a reasonably recent gcj. The phrase "since OpenNMS uses Tomcat and/or Jetty" was a red flag, since we've used gcj with both of these.
Andrew.
Benjamin Reed ranger@opennms.org writes:
Would it be possible to add compatible provides to the openjdk -devel package? Since OpenNMS uses Tomcat and/or Jetty, and does not precompile it's JSP files, we require a JDK at runtime.
Unfortunately, there are no provides that are the same across OpenJDK and Sun's Java:
Sun JDK: [ranger@nen ~]$ rpm -q --provides jdk jre = 1.5.0_15 j2sdk = 1.5.0_15 j2re = 1.5.0_15 jaxp_parser_impl xml-commons-apis jdk = 2000:1.5.0_15-fcs jaxp_parser_impl xml-commons-apis jdk = 2000:1.6.0_05-fcs
OpenJDK: [ranger@localhost opennms-1.6]$ rpm -q --provides \ ~ java-1.6.0-openjdk-devel java-1.6.0-devel = 1:1.6.0.0 java-1.7.0-icedtea-devel = 0:1.7.0.0-0.999 java-devel = 1:1.6.0 java-devel-openjdk = 1:1.6.0.0 java-sdk = 1:1.6.0 java-sdk-1.6.0 = 1:1.6.0.0 java-sdk-1.6.0-openjdk = 1:1.6.0.0 java-sdk-openjdk = 1:1.6.0.0 lib.so libunpack.so java-1.6.0-openjdk-devel = 1:1.6.0.0-0.13.b09.fc9
We've had problems attempting to be compatible with Sun's RPMs in the past. Matt dealt with the xml-commons-apis issue. I would rather not risk providing anything provided by Sun's RPM.
The best way to make OpenNMS available for Fedora is to maintain packages directly in the Fedora repositories. Alternatively, you could recommend to users who absolutely must use Sun's proprietary JDK that they install JPackage-formatted RPMs instead of Sun's RPM.
Tom
Thomas Fitzsimmons wrote:
The best way to make OpenNMS available for Fedora is to maintain packages directly in the Fedora repositories. Alternatively, you could recommend to users who absolutely must use Sun's proprietary JDK that they install JPackage-formatted RPMs instead of Sun's RPM.
Yeah, I can do that, just was trying to avoid having to maintain multiple spec files.
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