Hi everyone,
We had our bi-weekly meeting yesterday so I'm going to summarize what is happening right now in Fedora-Java world.
People present: * cspike * ggraz * mbooth * akurtakov * sochotni
Status updates: * Maven 3 - work on custom resolver is starting ** will publish git repo on java-devel in due time
* Packages monitored by java sig ** List is getting longer, once semi-finished akurtakov will ask for java-sig user to be created and added to these packages for watchcommits ** agreed that commits will be sent to java-devel
* New guidelines are shaping up, several new improvements suggested ** see, comment, improve: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Akurtakov/JavaPackagingDraftUpdate
* Finishing up jakarta->apache rename (packages ready, need maintainers of original packages to retire them - fnasser, jmrodri) ** also create apache-commons-parent package with proper requires/pom.xml
Meetbot minutes (note that assigned actions look a bit like two man show, but that's not the case...we just forgot to do #action properly :-) )
===================================================================== #fedora-meeting: Java SIG -- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Java =====================================================================
Meeting started by akurtakov_ at 17:02:30 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-10-19/fedora-meeting.20... .
Meeting summary --------------- * roll-call (akurtakov_, 17:03:38) * akurtakov_ cspike ggraz mbooth sochotni present (sochotni, 17:04:00) * akurtakov_ cspike ggraz mbooth sochotni present (akurtakov_, 17:04:25)
* maven 3 status (akurtakov_, 17:05:33) * LINK: http://sochotni.fedorapeople.org/maven-3.0-1.fc13.src.rpm (sochotni, 17:06:37) * LINK: http://sochotni.fedorapeople.org/maven-3.0-1.fc13.src.rpm maven 3 source rpm (sochotni, 17:06:45) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MavenUpdate#Maven_3 may be helpful, too (cspike, 17:06:58) * LINK: http://sochotni.fedorapeople.org/maven-3.0-1.fc15.noarch.rpm maven 3 binary rpm (sochotni, 17:07:01) * ACTION: sochotni will put maven 3 spec for review (sochotni, 17:12:25) * ACTION: sochotni will create public git repo with custom resolver so others can see/review (sochotni, 17:12:56) * new resolver should be basically re-implemented maven-aether-provider (sochotni, 17:14:45)
* Java packages monitoring (sochotni, 17:15:04) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Java/Monitored_packages Wiki to collect Java packages for monitoring (sochotni, 17:15:27) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ infra ticketing system (sochotni, 17:19:26) * ACTION: akurtakov_ will file infra ticket asking for java pseudo user (sochotni, 17:19:44) * java-sig user will forward to java-devel mailing list (sochotni, 17:26:08)
* New packaging guidelines (akurtakov_, 17:26:54) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Akurtakov/JavaPackagingDraftUpdate Draft (sochotni, 17:27:15) * ACTION: akurtakov_ to add javadoc:aggregate to guidelines (akurtakov_, 17:31:31) * ACTION: akurtakov_ add to guidelines that ant packages that have pom files MUST install them (akurtakov_, 17:35:38) * ACTION: akurtakov_ f there is no pom consider using the one from maven central addition to guidelines (akurtakov_, 17:37:40) * ACTION: akurtakov_ merge parts from JPPMavenReadme and explain when usage of depmap is reasonable and when one have to patch the pom.xml file (akurtakov_, 17:43:42) * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_meeting_channel (cspike, 17:54:56)
* Update Java SIG wiki (sochotni, 17:57:27)
* open-floor (akurtakov_, 17:58:15) * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JakartaCommonsRename (cspike, 17:59:12) * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life (cspike, 18:01:11) * ACTION: sochotni try to contact jmrodri and fnasser about orphaning their jakarta packages (sochotni, 18:05:32)
Meeting ended at 18:25:51 UTC.
Action Items ------------ * sochotni will put maven 3 spec for review * sochotni will create public git repo with custom resolver so others can see/review * akurtakov_ will file infra ticket asking for java pseudo user * akurtakov_ to add javadoc:aggregate to guidelines * akurtakov_ add to guidelines that ant packages that have pom files MUST install them * akurtakov_ f there is no pom consider using the one from maven central addition to guidelines * akurtakov_ merge parts from JPPMavenReadme and explain when usage of depmap is reasonable and when one have to patch the pom.xml file * sochotni try to contact jmrodri and fnasser about orphaning their jakarta packages
Action Items, by person ----------------------- * akurtakov_ * akurtakov_ will file infra ticket asking for java pseudo user * akurtakov_ to add javadoc:aggregate to guidelines * akurtakov_ add to guidelines that ant packages that have pom files MUST install them * akurtakov_ f there is no pom consider using the one from maven central addition to guidelines * akurtakov_ merge parts from JPPMavenReadme and explain when usage of depmap is reasonable and when one have to patch the pom.xml file * sochotni * sochotni will put maven 3 spec for review * sochotni will create public git repo with custom resolver so others can see/review * sochotni try to contact jmrodri and fnasser about orphaning their jakarta packages * **UNASSIGNED** * (none)
People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * sochotni (132) * akurtakov_ (95) * cspike (43) * ggraz (27) * mbooth (12) * zodbot (3)
On 10/20/2010 11:01 AM, Stanislav Ochotnicky wrote:
Hi everyone,
We had our bi-weekly meeting yesterday so I'm going to summarize what is happening right now in Fedora-Java world.
On a related note...I wanted to ask if perhaps we could talk about changing the time/days of the meetings? I noticed that we don't have any people from US attending the meetings anyway, so I'd like to move them to sooner than 17:00 UTC.
Options I would like you to consider: * Monday/Tuesday/Wednesday 13:00-14:00 UTC @ fedora-meeting * Monday 14:00-15:00 UTC @ fedora-meeting * Whole week at 14:00-15:00 UTC @ fedora-meeting-1
This is mostly question for people currently attending the meetings. I would like you to have time to continue attending, but if we can move to a time slot so that more people can come...all the better.
In general I'd like to avoid Monday/Friday because people are travelling, there are often vacations etc. I'd also prefer fedora-meeting to fedora-meeting-1 because of bigger audience, but it's not that important.
Is there anyone for whom earlier times do not work (due to work/school/other interests) ?
I created a voting form at (my first time, so maybe I screwed something up).
http://www.makeavote.net/mavsta13752.html
On 10/20/2010 05:01 AM, Stanislav Ochotnicky wrote:
Hi everyone,
We had our bi-weekly meeting yesterday so I'm going to summarize what is happening right now in Fedora-Java world.
People present:
- cspike
- ggraz
- mbooth
- akurtakov
- sochotni
Status updates:
- Maven 3 - work on custom resolver is starting
Would depfind be useful here? I did a bit of work on the M3 awhile back, but not enough to know what this would entail.
** will publish git repo on java-devel in due time
Packages monitored by java sig ** List is getting longer, once semi-finished akurtakov will ask for java-sig user to be created and added to these packages for watchcommits ** agreed that commits will be sent to java-devel
New guidelines are shaping up, several new improvements suggested ** see, comment, improve:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Akurtakov/JavaPackagingDraftUpdate
- Finishing up jakarta->apache rename (packages ready, need maintainers
of original packages to retire them - fnasser, jmrodri) ** also create apache-commons-parent package with proper requires/pom.xml
Meetbot minutes (note that assigned actions look a bit like two man show, but that's not the case...we just forgot to do #action properly :-) )
=====================================================================
#fedora-meeting: Java SIG -- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Java
Meeting started by akurtakov_ at 17:02:30 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-10-19/fedora-meeting.20... .
Meeting summary
roll-call (akurtakov_, 17:03:38)
- akurtakov_ cspike ggraz mbooth sochotni present (sochotni, 17:04:00)
- akurtakov_ cspike ggraz mbooth sochotni present (akurtakov_, 17:04:25)
maven 3 status (akurtakov_, 17:05:33)
- LINK: http://sochotni.fedorapeople.org/maven-3.0-1.fc13.src.rpm (sochotni, 17:06:37)
- LINK: http://sochotni.fedorapeople.org/maven-3.0-1.fc13.src.rpm maven 3 source rpm (sochotni, 17:06:45)
- LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MavenUpdate#Maven_3 may be helpful, too (cspike, 17:06:58)
- LINK: http://sochotni.fedorapeople.org/maven-3.0-1.fc15.noarch.rpm maven 3 binary rpm (sochotni, 17:07:01)
- ACTION: sochotni will put maven 3 spec for review (sochotni, 17:12:25)
- ACTION: sochotni will create public git repo with custom resolver so others can see/review (sochotni, 17:12:56)
- new resolver should be basically re-implemented maven-aether-provider (sochotni, 17:14:45)
Java packages monitoring (sochotni, 17:15:04)
- LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Java/Monitored_packages Wiki to collect Java packages for monitoring (sochotni, 17:15:27)
- LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ infra ticketing system (sochotni, 17:19:26)
- ACTION: akurtakov_ will file infra ticket asking for java pseudo user (sochotni, 17:19:44)
- java-sig user will forward to java-devel mailing list (sochotni, 17:26:08)
New packaging guidelines (akurtakov_, 17:26:54)
- LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Akurtakov/JavaPackagingDraftUpdate Draft (sochotni, 17:27:15)
- ACTION: akurtakov_ to add javadoc:aggregate to guidelines (akurtakov_, 17:31:31)
- ACTION: akurtakov_ add to guidelines that ant packages that have pom files MUST install them (akurtakov_, 17:35:38)
- ACTION: akurtakov_ f there is no pom consider using the one from maven central addition to guidelines (akurtakov_, 17:37:40)
- ACTION: akurtakov_ merge parts from JPPMavenReadme and explain when usage of depmap is reasonable and when one have to patch the pom.xml file (akurtakov_, 17:43:42)
- LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_meeting_channel (cspike, 17:54:56)
Update Java SIG wiki (sochotni, 17:57:27)
open-floor (akurtakov_, 17:58:15)
- LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JakartaCommonsRename (cspike, 17:59:12)
- LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life (cspike, 18:01:11)
- ACTION: sochotni try to contact jmrodri and fnasser about orphaning their jakarta packages (sochotni, 18:05:32)
Meeting ended at 18:25:51 UTC.
Action Items
- sochotni will put maven 3 spec for review
- sochotni will create public git repo with custom resolver so others can see/review
- akurtakov_ will file infra ticket asking for java pseudo user
- akurtakov_ to add javadoc:aggregate to guidelines
- akurtakov_ add to guidelines that ant packages that have pom files MUST install them
- akurtakov_ f there is no pom consider using the one from maven central addition to guidelines
- akurtakov_ merge parts from JPPMavenReadme and explain when usage of depmap is reasonable and when one have to patch the pom.xml file
- sochotni try to contact jmrodri and fnasser about orphaning their jakarta packages
Action Items, by person
- akurtakov_
- akurtakov_ will file infra ticket asking for java pseudo user
- akurtakov_ to add javadoc:aggregate to guidelines
- akurtakov_ add to guidelines that ant packages that have pom files MUST install them
- akurtakov_ f there is no pom consider using the one from maven central addition to guidelines
- akurtakov_ merge parts from JPPMavenReadme and explain when usage of depmap is reasonable and when one have to patch the pom.xml file
- sochotni
- sochotni will put maven 3 spec for review
- sochotni will create public git repo with custom resolver so others can see/review
- sochotni try to contact jmrodri and fnasser about orphaning their jakarta packages
- **UNASSIGNED**
- (none)
People Present (lines said)
- sochotni (132)
- akurtakov_ (95)
- cspike (43)
- ggraz (27)
- mbooth (12)
- zodbot (3)
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On 10/20/2010 05:01 AM, Stanislav Ochotnicky wrote:
Hi everyone,
We had our bi-weekly meeting yesterday so I'm going to summarize what is happening right now in Fedora-Java world.
People present:
- cspike
- ggraz
- mbooth
- akurtakov
- sochotni
Status updates:
- Maven 3 - work on custom resolver is starting
Would depfind be useful here? I did a bit of work on the M3 awhile back, but not enough to know what this would entail.
Not at all. The resolver we are speaking about is a way to resolve Maven groupId:artifactId from the system repository which has a different format compared to upstream repository. It's no related to finding/graphing dependencies at all but to mapping fedora installed jars to maven groupId:artifactId.
Alexander Kurtakov
** will publish git repo on java-devel in due time
Packages monitored by java sig
** List is getting longer, once semi-finished akurtakov will ask for
java-sig user to be created and added to these packages for watchcommits
** agreed that commits will be sent to java-devel
New guidelines are shaping up, several new improvements suggested
** see, comment, improve:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Akurtakov/JavaPackagingDraftUpdate
- Finishing up jakarta->apache rename (packages ready, need maintainers
of original packages to retire them - fnasser, jmrodri)
** also create apache-commons-parent package with proper requires/pom.xmlMeetbot minutes (note that assigned actions look a bit like two man show, but that's not the case...we just forgot to do #action properly :-) )
=====================================================================
#fedora-meeting: Java SIG -- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Java
Meeting started by akurtakov_ at 17:02:30 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-10-19/fedora-meeting .2010-10-19-17.02.log.html .
Meeting summary
roll-call (akurtakov_, 17:03:38)
akurtakov_ cspike ggraz mbooth sochotni present (sochotni,
17:04:00)
akurtakov_ cspike ggraz mbooth sochotni present (akurtakov_,
17:04:25)
maven 3 status (akurtakov_, 17:05:33)
LINK: http://sochotni.fedorapeople.org/maven-3.0-1.fc13.src.rpm
(sochotni, 17:06:37)
LINK: http://sochotni.fedorapeople.org/maven-3.0-1.fc13.src.rpm
maven 3 source rpm (sochotni, 17:06:45)
LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MavenUpdate#Maven_3 may be
helpful, too (cspike, 17:06:58)
LINK: http://sochotni.fedorapeople.org/maven-3.0-1.fc15.noarch.rpm
maven 3 binary rpm (sochotni, 17:07:01)
ACTION: sochotni will put maven 3 spec for review (sochotni,
17:12:25)
ACTION: sochotni will create public git repo with custom resolver so
others can see/review (sochotni, 17:12:56)
new resolver should be basically re-implemented
maven-aether-provider (sochotni, 17:14:45)
Java packages monitoring (sochotni, 17:15:04)
LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Java/Monitored_packages
Wiki to collect Java packages for monitoring (sochotni, 17:15:27)
LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ infra
ticketing system (sochotni, 17:19:26)
ACTION: akurtakov_ will file infra ticket asking for java pseudo
user (sochotni, 17:19:44)
java-sig user will forward to java-devel mailing list (sochotni,
17:26:08)
New packaging guidelines (akurtakov_, 17:26:54)
LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Akurtakov/JavaPackagingDraftUpda te Draft (sochotni, 17:27:15)
ACTION: akurtakov_ to add javadoc:aggregate to guidelines
(akurtakov_, 17:31:31)
ACTION: akurtakov_ add to guidelines that ant packages that have pom
files MUST install them (akurtakov_, 17:35:38)
ACTION: akurtakov_ f there is no pom consider using the one from
maven central addition to guidelines (akurtakov_, 17:37:40)
ACTION: akurtakov_ merge parts from JPPMavenReadme and explain when
usage of depmap is reasonable and when one have to patch the pom.xml file (akurtakov_, 17:43:42)
LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_meeting_channel
(cspike, 17:54:56)
Update Java SIG wiki (sochotni, 17:57:27)
open-floor (akurtakov_, 17:58:15)
LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JakartaCommonsRename (cspike,
17:59:12)
LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life (cspike, 18:01:11)
ACTION: sochotni try to contact jmrodri and fnasser about orphaning
their jakarta packages (sochotni, 18:05:32)
Meeting ended at 18:25:51 UTC.
Action Items
sochotni will put maven 3 spec for review
sochotni will create public git repo with custom resolver so others
can see/review
akurtakov_ will file infra ticket asking for java pseudo user
akurtakov_ to add javadoc:aggregate to guidelines
akurtakov_ add to guidelines that ant packages that have pom files
MUST install them
akurtakov_ f there is no pom consider using the one from maven central
addition to guidelines
akurtakov_ merge parts from JPPMavenReadme and explain when usage of
depmap is reasonable and when one have to patch the pom.xml file
sochotni try to contact jmrodri and fnasser about orphaning their
jakarta packages
Action Items, by person
akurtakov_
akurtakov_ will file infra ticket asking for java pseudo user
akurtakov_ to add javadoc:aggregate to guidelines
akurtakov_ add to guidelines that ant packages that have pom files
MUST install them
akurtakov_ f there is no pom consider using the one from maven
central addition to guidelines
akurtakov_ merge parts from JPPMavenReadme and explain when usage of
depmap is reasonable and when one have to patch the pom.xml file
sochotni
sochotni will put maven 3 spec for review
sochotni will create public git repo with custom resolver so others
can see/review
sochotni try to contact jmrodri and fnasser about orphaning their
jakarta packages
**UNASSIGNED**
- (none)
People Present (lines said)
- sochotni (132)
- akurtakov_ (95)
- cspike (43)
- ggraz (27)
- mbooth (12)
- zodbot (3)
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