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Insight meeting recap 2010-09-30
by Paul W. Frields 30 Sep '10

30 Sep '10

Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-09-30/fedora_insight.2… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-09-30/fedora_insight.2… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-09-30/fedora_insight.2… Meeting summary --------------- * Roll call (stickster, 18:00:52) * LINK: http://2tu.us/2qb9 <-- Agenda (stickster, 18:01:34) * Check tasks from last week (stickster, 18:03:18) * LINK: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-mktg/2010-09-23/fedora_insight.2010… <-- Last week's minutes (stickster, 18:03:28) * smooge and stickster haven't finished packaging but this is probably a 30-minute task at most (stickster, 18:03:52) * stickster did his other work of asking FWN team for a bullet list standardization (stickster, 18:04:09) * smooge can't be here today and I haven't seen any comments from him on list or in bug 569833 (stickster, 18:04:32) * updated FWN 242 with stickster's changes to flexifilter, which display nicely now http://publictest4.fedoraproject.org/drupal/node/13 (pcalarco, 18:05:20) * Don't see any new pushed theme bits since before last week's meeting (stickster, 18:07:57) * Views is installed (by stickster) but no new view for the combined FWN issue (stickster, 18:09:07) * LINK: http://blog.hiemanshu.in/ (stickster, 18:09:55) * Attracting more contributors (stickster, 18:10:54) * IDEA: We could use a big, detailed blog post telling people about Insight, and that we could use help with (1) CSS/theme work, and (2) working on plans for how to accommodate material beyond FWN in the next phase (stickster, 18:12:32) * IDEA: oh, and (3) helping with Drupal module package maintenance, which is simple (yay!) once drupal6 pkg is finished (stickster, 18:13:14) * ACTION: Sparks to draft big blog post of goodness and CTA (stickster, 18:16:18) * ACTION: pcalarco Review and help Sparks with final (stickster, 18:16:25) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Insight_project_plan <-- info about future phases, but beyond phase 1 is up for review/revision (stickster, 18:20:32) * ACTION: fix e-mail addresses for FlexiFilter; look at <ref></ref> alignments (pcalarco, 18:24:04) * ACTION: hiemanshu push theme work tomorrow once he's home (stickster, 18:28:20) * pcalarco and stickster to meet at #fedora-mktg at 8:30am EDT on 2010-10-01 to look at flexifilter together, all are welcome (stickster, 18:34:22) * Drupal status - theme (stickster, 18:34:51) * hiemanshu is pushing stuff tomorrow for us to review (stickster, 18:35:07) * ACTION: hiemanshu either package theme or tell us he needs help (stickster, 18:35:48) * Drupal status - Views (stickster, 18:36:26) * ACTION: pcalarco Prepare View of combined, one-page FWN (stickster, 18:38:26) * Drupal status - packaging (stickster, 18:38:45) * Waiting on resolution of two bugs: (stickster, 18:39:30) * That will unblock the second bug: (stickster, 18:39:49) * smooge was going to talk to limb, the maintainer working on the review (#569833), but smooge is out today and I haven't heard a status from him. I'll pursue. (stickster, 18:40:21) * ACTION: stickster to email smooge + limb to find out progress (stickster, 18:40:31) * AOB (all other business) (stickster, 18:40:51) * ACTION: stickster Add Views module installation to the wiki customizations page at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Insight_customizations_to_Drupal (stickster, 18:42:36) * ACTION: pcalarco review Views module documentation http://drupal.org/project/views (pcalarco, 18:43:57) * If you find any omissions in the info on the wiki, feel free to add or to pipe up -- not guaranteed to be perfect but every fix helps! (stickster, 18:44:00) Meeting ended at 18:48:31 UTC. Action Items ------------ * Sparks to draft big blog post of goodness and CTA * pcalarco Review and help Sparks with final * fix e-mail addresses for FlexiFilter; look at <ref></ref> alignments * hiemanshu push theme work tomorrow once he's home * hiemanshu either package theme or tell us he needs help * pcalarco Prepare View of combined, one-page FWN * stickster to email smooge + limb to find out progress * stickster Add Views module installation to the wiki customizations page at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Insight_customizations_to_Drupal * pcalarco review Views module documentation http://drupal.org/project/views Action Items, by person ----------------------- * hiemanshu * hiemanshu push theme work tomorrow once he's home * hiemanshu either package theme or tell us he needs help * pcalarco * pcalarco Review and help Sparks with final * pcalarco Prepare View of combined, one-page FWN * pcalarco review Views module documentation http://drupal.org/project/views * Sparks * Sparks to draft big blog post of goodness and CTA * pcalarco Review and help Sparks with final * stickster * stickster to email smooge + limb to find out progress * stickster Add Views module installation to the wiki customizations page at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Insight_customizations_to_Drupal * **UNASSIGNED** * fix e-mail addresses for FlexiFilter; look at <ref></ref> alignments People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * stickster (96) * pcalarco (18) * Sparks (8) * zodbot (8) * fenris02 (5) * hiemanshu (4) * rbergeron (1) -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ Where open source multiplies: http://opensource.com

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Re: Etherpad FAD preparation
by Jon Stanley 29 Sep '10

29 Sep '10

On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Colin Zwiebel <colin(a)zonion.org> wrote: > YOUR ATTENTION NEEDED > And we need people to act as helpdesk. This may be a good position for > technical people not versed in the exact EP technolgoies (IE me, never > hacked in scala in my life) > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Etherpad_FAD#Help_Desk_Hours I can do some of this - I've never hacked Java, Scala, or any of these other fancy things you speak of :). I'm obviously quite experienced in Fedora however, and can help the newbies get setup and going relatively quickly - and being physically present helps in doing that immensely. My main point in being there is having someone from infrastructure there, along those lines, have you filled out an RFR for an EP instance yet?

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Insight meeting reminder and theme
by Paul W. Frields 29 Sep '10

29 Sep '10

We're due for our weekly meeting tomorrow at 2pm EDT (1800 UTC). Hiemanshu, I haven't seen anything pushed to the master branch of the theme since last week: http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=fedora-insight-theme.git My point is not that you should be working harder! :-) Just that we want to know your plans, whether you need more help, and in what respect. We're coming up to our Oct. 1 milestone for the theme, and I'd love to start staging as close to that as possible. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ Where open source multiplies: http://opensource.com

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Upcoming Fedora 14 Tasks
by John Poelstra 27 Sep '10

27 Sep '10

Start End Name Tue 14-Sep Fri 08-Oct Name the Fedora 15 Release Tue 21-Sep Mon 27-Sep Solicit volunteers for questionnaire and town halls Tue 21-Sep Wed 24-Nov Fedora 15 Elections Fri 24-Sep Fri 01-Oct Legal Review Tue 28-Sep Tue 28-Sep Update wiki page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections with required information Tue 28-Sep Tue 28-Sep Advertise elections schedule and pages Tue 28-Sep Tue 28-Sep Beta Release Public Availability Wed 29-Sep Wed 29-Sep Reminder: Final Blocker Meeting (f14blocker) #2 Fri 01-Oct Thu 07-Oct Voting Fri 01-Oct Fri 01-Oct Final Blocker Meeting (f14blocker) #2 Wed 06-Oct Wed 06-Oct Reminder: Final Blocker Meeting (f14blocker) #3 Fri 08-Oct Fri 08-Oct Fedora 15 Release Name Announced Fri 08-Oct Fri 08-Oct Final Blocker Meeting (f14blocker) #3 Mon 11-Oct Fri 15-Oct Daily Review & Notification of Open Final Blocker Bugs

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Re: Etherpad FAD preparation
by Colin Zwiebel 26 Sep '10

26 Sep '10

Okay, non-rooming info. Just had a good meeting with Andy, Kevin, and got Mel on the cam. We had a lot of discussion, here are the brilliant insights of our toils: * We need to have social activities, adding OWW to Friday, and some other event Sunday (free form?) * Would also be good to == What people will do == As requested in the earlier Mel-message. I drafted out details for a sheet that gets everyone on the same page and informs what they should do and who to get in touch with. It isn't complete but that is okay because the purpose of the pre-FAD is to fill these details in: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Etherpad_FAD#Resources Big things missing: * Detailed work breakdown * How to get started hacking Tentative thoughts: * (Beginner task) Have new people go through GitHub and Google Code tickets, check current state, triage == Getting People Up to Speed == We've been planning on an intro to OSS and techs involved in this hackathon. Kevin Mehall has graciously agreed. This will cover: - what's open source - what's Linux/Fedora - what's packaging - what's version control (here's how you use the one we're using over the weekend - which is to say, git) - Using SVN (as a started) - How to use SVN mastery to learn Git - what's the software development lifecycle (release cycles, the role of QA, etc) - What are patches and diffs and how do I use them - How do changes get pulled into Open Source projects - What is this forking business We're also considering having Sebastian give a 7-min talk he gave a week earlier at Olin. == HelpDesk / Point Person == At any time we will have a point-person for outside contact and "help, I don't know what to do" requests. Mel offered to do a training. Colin, Andy, and Kevin(?) were interested in hearing what Mel has to say. MEL ATTENTION NEEDED Mel, can you send out a WhenIsGood or similar for times that make you happy. We will assume them to be in Eastern time. YOUR ATTENTION NEEDED And we need people to act as helpdesk. This may be a good position for technical people not versed in the exact EP technolgoies (IE me, never hacked in scala in my life) https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Etherpad_FAD#Help_Desk_Hours == Pre-FAD == Already mentioned, but specific task creation will happen during Pre-FAD as we will our European (UK) co-hackers there to consult. If you are technical and can help outline, would love to have your help. prefad<https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Etherpad_FAD#Pre-FAD_.28very_optional.29> on Oct 2nd ( check local time<http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=10&day=2&year=20…> ) == Logistics == Not any assignments on the logistics front (feel free to volunteer). I'm just going to list everything I can think of so we don't miss any task: * Pickup guests * Get admissions room keys * Clean admissions sheets * Food * Choose stir-fry supplies * Buy stir-fry supplies * Choose drink/snacks * Buy drinks/snacks * Find dedicated computers for video chat / testing * Lug and setup dedicated computers * Find many power strips for the hacking * Flyer the entirety of Olin * Talk up the event to friends == Grouping of EP components == Andy would love to have an EtherPad library/framework/API/app to help people make 1) other collaborative tools and 2) turn anything web-text into instant collaboration. This is idealistic, but we think there a couple of modules of Etherpad that could/should be separated: [module 1] Core * Comparison (operational transformation?) * Document history (and timeslider) * Pad identification (by URL, or other) * Database and storage [module 2] Web stuff * Interface * Pro functionality (login, password protection) * Chat IDEA == Pairing == Andy has the great idea of pairing people off. Probably inexperienced with experienced. Will help people learn and have something to do at all times. I'm planning on doing this during / right after introductions. Colin On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Colin Zwiebel <colin(a)zonion.org> wrote: > Cool. Jon, you no longer have to share a room. Hooray! > > Colin > > > > On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa(a)redhat.com > > wrote: > >> Just as a heads-up, since it turns out that Olin is an hour away from my >> house, I'm not going to need the dorm room space. My wife convinced me >> in the merit of sleeping in my own bed, no matter how late I drag in. :) >> >> ~spot >> > >

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Re: Etherpad FAD preparation
by Mel Chua 24 Sep '10

24 Sep '10

(Now sending from the right email address so I can actually post to logistics...) For people new to this conversation - the context is that a team at Olin College is preparing for the Etherpad FAD (an activity day dedicated to getting Etherpad deployed within Fedora, which implies building up a lot of software engineering infrastructure and possibly hacking its code along the way; it's close to abandonware at the moment) and I'm helping them make sure they're ready for the event, because it includes an unusually high percentage and large number of brand-new FOSS contributors who'll need a lot of scaffolding and guidance. Ccing the logistics list because this may make a useful way to think about preparing for FADs in the future - Fedora people, see the link at the end of this email. Also Ccing TOS, because I'm curious if this is a useful way to think about preparing hackathons for students and vice versa. -- All right, folks (meaning the Olin team). You have homework to do before our meeting. Make these things as best you can. I've tried to spec in deliverables as best I could, and explain the results I'm trying to accomplish by each one (if you can think of an alternative thing that accomplishes the same results, feel free to do that instead!) You should ''finish'' these, but not ''polish'' them (get all the content in, but don't worry about typesetting or putting stuff in a shiny pdf yet). You should try to complete them, but also know they won't be done before our meeting - they won't be final, they'll still need tweaking. Think of it as bringing your complete first draft in for review. We'll spend our conversation time hacking on the rest of this and making sure things are clear to you on how to get them the rest of the way ready before the event. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Etherpad_FAD#Resources If you can send me links to the completed resources (you can make them right in there on the wiki page) at least an hour before our meeting time, that would be excellent, because then I'll have a chance to review them and queue up commentary ahead of time, and we'll be able to get a lot more done during our actual call. Feel free to send questions about this stuff at any time, and to push back if things don't make sense or if I'm being an overbearing dictator. :) These are all suggestions you can choose whether or not to take - I won't be offended if you think you've come up with a better way to do things (heck, I'll want to learn!) I'm here to help you make the FAD the kickass success you want it to be, so *you* tell me how I can help you... this is just my initial offer. Send me a ping letting me know you've read this message and whether the instructions in the "Resources" page make sense - enough for you to start working on it, at least. --Mel

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Fedora 14 Beta Release Readiness Meeting Recap
by John Poelstra 23 Sep '10

23 Sep '10

========================================================= #fedora-meeting: Fedora 14 Beta Release Readiness Meeting ========================================================= Meeting started by poelcat at 19:00:04 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-09-23/fedora-meeting.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * attendees: nirik rbergeron jsmith-mobile sijis ke4qqq (poelcat, 19:08:11) * Marketing (poelcat, 19:08:25) * Websites (poelcat, 19:09:57) * LINK: http://stg.fedoraproject.org (mizmo, 19:17:25) * Design (poelcat, 19:20:38) * Infrastructure (poelcat, 19:22:57) * Release Engineering (poelcat, 19:26:56) * Design (poelcat, 19:30:03) * Ambassadors (poelcat, 19:33:09) * All Other Teams (poelcat, 19:35:36) * open discussion (poelcat, 19:39:05) Meeting ended at 19:42:07 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * poelcat (70) * sijis (26) * mizmo (22) * rbergeron (12) * mmcgrath (10) * dgilmore (10) * jsmith-mobile (5) * nirik (3) * ke4qqq (3) * Schendje (2) * zodbot (2) * spot (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Reminder Fedora 14 Beta Readiness Meeting 2010-09-23 @ 19:00 UTC (3 PM US Eastern/12 PM US Pacific)
by John Poelstra 23 Sep '10

23 Sep '10

Ambassadors -- David Nalley Design -- Máirín Duffy Documentation -- Eric Christensen FESCo -- Kevin Fenzi Fedora Engineering Manager -- Tom "Spot" Callaway Fedora Project Leader -- Jared Smith Infrastructure -- Mike McGrath Marketing -- Robyn Bergeron Quality -- James Laska Release Engineering -- Jesse Keating Translation -- Noriko Mizumoto Websites -- Ricky Zhou date: 2010-09-23 place: irc.freenode.net #fedora-meeting time: 19:00 UTC (3 PM Eastern/ 12 PM Pacific) This Thursday September 23, 2010, we will meet to make sure we are coordinated and ready for the public release of the Fedora 14 Beta release on Tuesday, September 28, 2010. This meeting works best when we have representatives from all of the teams so we'll be looking for the following people to attend or send a representative. Talk to you tomorrow. John

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Upcoming Fedora 14 Tasks
by John Poelstra 20 Sep '10

20 Sep '10

Start End Name Tue 14-Sep Tue 21-Sep Collect Fedora 15 Names on Wiki Tue 14-Sep Fri 08-Oct Name the Fedora 15 Release Mon 20-Sep Mon 20-Sep Reminder: Beta Release Readiness Meeting Mon 20-Sep Mon 20-Sep Reminder: Fedora 14 Beta Go/No-Go Meeting Tue 21-Sep Fri 24-Sep Board Review of Proposed Fedora 15 Names Wed 22-Sep Wed 22-Sep Fedora 14 Beta Go/No-Go Meeting (17:00 EST) Wed 22-Sep Wed 22-Sep Reminder: Final Blocker Meeting (f14blocker) #1 Thu 23-Sep Thu 23-Sep Fedora 14 Beta Release Readiness Meeting Fri 24-Sep Fri 01-Oct Legal Review Fri 24-Sep Fri 24-Sep Final Blocker Meeting (f14blocker) #1 Fri 24-Sep Fri 24-Sep Beta Export Control Reporting Tue 28-Sep Tue 28-Sep Beta Release Public Availability Wed 29-Sep Wed 29-Sep Reminder: Final Blocker Meeting (f14blocker) #2 Fri 01-Oct Thu 07-Oct Voting Fri 01-Oct Fri 01-Oct Final Blocker Meeting (f14blocker) #2

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Flexifilter and FWN
by Paul W. Frields 17 Sep '10

17 Sep '10

I started experimenting with the Flexifilter module: http://drupal.org/project/flexifilter It allows parsing of different kinds of text to render as HTML content in a Drupal page. (There was an earlier version of this module that used PEAR parsing routines, whose page recommends Flexifilter instead.) There's a test page here: http://publictest4.fedoraproject.org/drupal/node/11 Last night I wrote some customization for handling <ref> tags, but it's not complete. I just wanted to see how hard it was to create a new handler. Some things are frighteningly easy, like headings. Some are a little more difficult -- not in concept, just in using the web interface to create them! Fortunately there's a way to write the filter in code and then import it. The point of doing this is that it would make people's lives very easy if they could just paste in wiki text and have it Just Work(tm). I'm going to continue working on this in light of the work session Pascal and I had yesterday. The process for entering an FWN issue is pretty simple, and this would shave off an extra portion of time that otherwise the editor would have to spend tweaking the markup. Pascal, are you willing to locate any FWN workflow writeup you did earlier, and tweak it to match what we did yesterday? -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ Where open source multiplies: http://opensource.com

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