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Insight: meeting minutes 2012-01-31
by Pascal Calarco 31 Jan '12

31 Jan '12

Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-01-31/insight.2012-01-… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-01-31/insight.2012-01-… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-01-31/insight.2012-01-… --- Meeting summary Insight (pcalarco, 21:04:46) roll call (pcalarco, 21:05:29) Notes from FUDCon Blacksburg are at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Insight_notes_from_FUDCon_Blacksburg_2012-01… (pcalarco, 21:11:01) https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Tatica/Insight (tatica, 21:13:34) Summary notes from FUDCon Insight calendar discussion are at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Tatica/Insight (pcalarco, 21:14:43) calendar mockups (pcalarco, 21:16:19) http://publictest04.fedoraproject.org/artboard/post/view/110 (pcalarco, 21:18:18) http://publictest04.fedoraproject.org/artboard/post/view/111 (pcalarco, 21:18:30) http://publictest04.fedoraproject.org/artboard/post/view/112 (pcalarco, 21:18:40) https://insight02.dev.fedoraproject.org/ (pcalarco, 21:35:22) http://publictest04.fedoraproject.org/artboard/post/view/112 (tatica, 21:47:02) data models (pcalarco, 21:57:37) http://publictest04.fedoraproject.org/artboard/post/view/114 (tatica, 21:57:59) ----- 21:04:39 <pcalarco> #startmeeting 21:04:39 <zodbot> Meeting started Tue Jan 31 21:04:39 2012 UTC. The chair is pcalarco. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:04:39 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 21:04:46 <pcalarco> #topic Insight 21:05:24 <tatica> hello :) 21:05:29 <pcalarco> #topic roll call 21:05:36 <pcalarco> #meetingname Insight 21:05:36 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'insight' 21:05:37 <asrob> hey tatica :) 21:05:39 * tatica here 21:05:48 <pcalarco> is here 21:05:56 <pcalarco> Hi tatica! 21:05:57 * asrob is here 21:07:04 <pcalarco> okay, welcome all. asrob, do you know if the gobby notes are on the wiki anywhere? 21:07:14 <pcalarco> from FUDCon, that is 21:07:22 <asrob> pcalarco, no, I do not 21:07:35 <tatica> I do 21:08:01 <pcalarco> tatica: awesome! We should link to them from the Insight page 21:08:03 <tatica> I think... https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Insight_notes_from_FUDCon_Blacksburg_2012-01… 21:08:16 <asrob> oh, cool, thanks tatica 21:08:31 <pcalarco> yay, thank you! 21:09:02 <tatica> however, I made a short list 21:09:05 <tatica> let me upload it somewhere 21:10:18 <pcalarco> we can link to it from https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Insight_use_cases_for_calendar 21:11:01 <pcalarco> #info Notes from FUDCon Blacksburg are at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Insight_notes_from_FUDCon_Blacksburg_2012-01… 21:13:34 <tatica> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Tatica/Insight 21:14:43 <pcalarco> #info Summary notes from FUDCon Insight calendar discussion are at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Tatica/Insight 21:14:57 <pcalarco> tatica: wonderful, thanks 21:15:07 <tatica> np 21:15:30 <asrob> awesome 21:15:31 <pcalarco> Perhaps I can turn it over to you to talk a bit about the mockups, tatica? 21:15:50 <asrob> I bookmarked it 21:15:57 <tatica> well, those mockups are only to show how layers might look 21:16:15 <tatica> since I was checking a previous design that mizmo did for insight and i would like to keep it 21:16:19 <pcalarco> #topic calendar mockups 21:16:35 <tatica> however, she told me that there is not actually a theme packaged, so I might work on that this-next week 21:16:52 <tatica> I have a couple of contributors from design that might be willing to help with this task 21:17:32 <tatica> this is mizmo mockup http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:FooBar.png 21:17:55 <asrob> tatica, ok, then I'll delete this theme, because this is adaptivetheme, http://drupal.org/project/adaptivetheme 21:18:14 <pcalarco> Great. I am going to link your mockups in the minutes too 21:18:18 <pcalarco> #link http://publictest04.fedoraproject.org/artboard/post/view/110 21:18:19 <asrob> our old theme is ninesixty, http://drupal.org/project/ninesixty 21:18:30 <pcalarco> #link http://publictest04.fedoraproject.org/artboard/post/view/111 21:18:40 <pcalarco> #link http://publictest04.fedoraproject.org/artboard/post/view/112 21:18:43 <tatica> yes, I think at some point I help a bit with the previous css 21:19:43 <tatica> so, if I remember we would like to set up a schedule 21:19:58 <tatica> however, I can only talk about design and theming, not about code 21:20:16 <asrob> tatica, ninesixty drupal theme is not packaged, do I package that? 21:20:31 <tatica> what would work better for you guys, a completely drupal based theme, or start with an html/css one? 21:21:06 <pcalarco> I think if we could start with a Drupal theme, that would help maintainability 21:21:14 <pcalarco> in the long run 21:21:30 <asrob> I think it would be good a completely new drupal 7 theme based on ninesixty/adaptivetheme/whatever 21:21:37 <asrob> yep 21:21:54 <pcalarco> +1 21:22:45 <tatica> ok 21:23:40 <asrob> tatica, if you need help I'll be able to help you, there are some changes in drupal 7 theming 21:23:46 <tatica> yeah 21:24:07 <pcalarco> asrob: based on tatica's mockups, which do you see as easier to work with in terms of themes? Ninesixty, adaptive, or something else? 21:25:18 <pcalarco> I think the mockups look pretty intuitive from what was discussed 21:25:29 <asrob> pcalarco, actually, adaptive is 960 width theme but that is a little bit more 21:25:57 <asrob> pcalarco, you know, HTML 5, responsive design and some cool things 21:26:04 <pcalarco> the nice thing about adaptive is that it is mobile-ready, which is one of our longer term goals 21:26:12 <pcalarco> yes, exactly 21:26:37 <asrob> yeah 21:27:01 <tatica> nice 21:27:15 <asrob> tatica, what do you think? I think you should choose one ;) 21:27:47 <tatica> yeah, I will take a look to those options and taking a look to the structure will pick one 21:30:11 <asrob> ok, I'll package ninesixty and adaptivetheme as well 21:30:27 <pcalarco> great, thanks asrob 21:30:34 <tatica> :D 21:32:08 <pcalarco> one of the next steps from Blacksburg was starting to document data models, content types and taxonomies; where to start on this, do you think? 21:32:41 <asrob> that's good question 21:33:27 <asrob> content types, I think we need plus one, its name is Event, for example 21:33:49 <asrob> so we have to filter by that with Views module 21:34:18 <pcalarco> yes 21:34:23 <asrob> as you can see it on insight02.dev server 21:35:08 <asrob> there is a "Filters based on location" requirement 21:35:22 <pcalarco> #link https://insight02.dev.fedoraproject.org/ 21:35:41 <asrob> I think this is a custom field in content type settings 21:36:49 <pcalarco> I wonder with location if there are two attributes: Fedora Region and then country 21:37:16 <pcalarco> so like LATAM and Nicaragua 21:37:51 <asrob> hm 21:37:58 <asrob> how do we handle this?! 21:38:44 <pcalarco> I would think it would be fine to only have Fedora region, if it makes it easier from a data model standpoint 21:39:11 <asrob> okay 21:39:20 <pcalarco> there are few enough events in a single region that this should be fine 21:40:28 <tatica> we could add a pop-up on start that makes you choose your location, or go general 21:40:31 <tatica> just like airlines do 21:40:47 <pcalarco> so do we start documenting all of the fields that we'd expect for each content type? How do you usually approach this, asrob? 21:40:48 <tatica> and then if you need to change your geo-location, just go to your profile 21:40:56 <pcalarco> +1 tatica 21:41:27 <asrob> pcalarco, yes, we do 21:42:02 <pcalarco> okay, we can start some wiki subpages for this 21:42:24 <pcalarco> perhaps we can discuss here and then transfer to wiki after the meeting 21:42:32 <asrob> sure 21:42:51 <pcalarco> so what fields would we have for an Event? 21:43:01 <pcalarco> event name 21:43:07 <asrob> of course 21:43:10 <pcalarco> date 21:43:21 <pcalarco> time in UTC 21:43:40 <asrob> title, date, body, location? 21:43:48 <pcalarco> time could also be a range, for a conference 21:44:31 <pcalarco> yes, location and body/description 21:44:41 <pcalarco> owner 21:44:46 <tatica> maybe on a 2nd stage we could add a schedule for that event. But since there is a lot to do, perhaps a timeset could work 21:45:43 <pcalarco> the owner should point to a wiki User page 21:46:38 <asrob> pcalarco, you just enter/link owner's name or something else? 21:46:50 <pcalarco> should there be a separate field for URL of the event, or just include this in description? 21:47:02 <tatica> http://publictest04.fedoraproject.org/artboard/post/view/112 21:47:08 <pcalarco> yes, owner like /wiki/User:asrob 21:48:13 <asrob> okay, but when you fill a new event out then you enter owner's name or that would be good, if it would be an autocomplete field or something like this? 21:48:33 <pcalarco> some evnts are entered before they have an owner 21:48:45 <asrob> ahh, got it, thanks 21:49:18 <pcalarco> like a lot of the big Linux conferences; we just know that it is coming up, and then an Ambassador team forms around it to take ownership/responsibility 21:50:16 <pcalarco> any other fields for Event, or move on to Meetings? 21:50:37 * tatica trying to do a mockup while you guys talk 21:50:54 <asrob> pcalarco, team or interest field 21:50:59 <asrob> and that's all 21:51:02 <asrob> I guess 21:52:17 <pcalarco> yes,possibly; most events get owned by Ambassadors, but occasionally there are events that are owned by other teams, like Design for the SXSW expo that Fedora had a booth for 21:53:02 <tatica> well, can be own by anyone with a FAS account 21:53:03 <pcalarco> we could add that in and see what makes sense for all 21:53:06 <tatica> no need to be ambassador 21:53:14 <pcalarco> tatica: correct, yes 21:53:27 <pcalarco> so maybe just FAS name? 21:53:28 <tatica> but an owner -should- at least have a FAS account 21:53:52 <tatica> even if he's not the one who organize it, he'll be in charge of fedora image in there 21:53:57 <pcalarco> whethere they have a wiki user page is nice, but perhaps not required? 21:54:00 <pcalarco> I am not sure 21:54:02 <tatica> so, a small requirement should be done 21:54:13 <tatica> pcalarco, that could also work 21:54:19 <tatica> commitment, we need that 21:54:34 <pcalarco> we can ask stickster on the list for confirmation 21:54:58 <pcalarco> so, okay that is Events, how about Meetings next? 21:55:07 <asrob> meetings? 21:55:41 <asrob> we can handle this with Event together 21:55:57 <asrob> or is it completely different? 21:57:25 <pcalarco> sorry folks, I got disconnected from freenode 21:57:37 <pcalarco> #topic data models 21:57:59 <tatica> http://publictest04.fedoraproject.org/artboard/post/view/114 21:58:44 <pcalarco> ah, twitter feeds yes good idea 21:58:56 <asrob> awesome 21:59:02 <asrob> I like these ideas :) 21:59:16 <tatica> maybe add some photos and blog post rss too, but that might be more complicated 21:59:19 <tatica> twitter seems easier 21:59:34 <pcalarco> +1 21:59:37 <asrob> +1 22:00:40 <pcalarco> looks great, tatica 22:01:01 <tatica> pls don't see it as -design-, more as layout 22:01:27 <pcalarco> okay, we are officially at time 22:02:06 <pcalarco> that is a very good start, maybe next week we can review these and analyze meetings next 22:02:31 <pcalarco> and then start building content types 22:02:41 <tatica> yeap 22:02:59 <asrob> yeah 22:03:00 <pcalarco> excellent discussion, thank you tatica and asrob! 22:03:12 <asrob> thank you tatica and pcalarco 22:03:21 <tatica> np, thx you guys 22:03:28 <tatica> make it easy to contribute :) 22:03:28 <pcalarco> and thank you for your layout/design wizardry, tatica! 22:03:36 <tatica> whatever! 22:03:59 <pcalarco> it is easier to talk about when you see a visual strawman I think 22:04:05 <tatica> ok, so who will send logs? 22:04:12 <pcalarco> I will 22:04:17 <pcalarco> #endmeeting

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[Insight] Can't make meeting, but don't cancel!
by Paul W. Frields 31 Jan '12

31 Jan '12

I can't make it to today's meeting at 4pm ET, but would encourage the team not to block on me for the meeting. There's lots to discuss including Maria's designs, assigning action items for spreading and validating the design, and figuring out a timeline for deciding what we need to add (content types, fields, taxonomies, etc.) and milestones for each. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com

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[Insight] Yesterday meeting
by Peter Borsa 31 Jan '12

31 Jan '12

Hi! Well, yesterday, our meeting was cancelled/postponed or something like that. That's why I want to ask what is the next step? I realized there is a little problem with mediawiki_api module that's why I would work on that. María, Jared, Paul, Pascal, if you have an idea, task what I have to do ASAP, feel free to tell me. -- Peter Borsa http://asrob.net gpg fingerprint: EF52 EF5D 9604 E11C 8219 242B AB24 5B0B C6CD 1242

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Re: [Ambassadors] What FOSS collaborative tools are available to contributors, what is needed?
by Kévin Raymond 20 Jan '12

20 Jan '12

Ok guys, I've started this page[1]. I am sure that I don't know all useful tools running on our infra, neither all Free instance running on the Web. Please, fill it. I think tools like pkgdb[2] should also be included, but I don't know this project too much. The fact is that we have many tools running that lots of contributors are not aware of. I hope this page could aggregate things. [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Collaborative_tools [2] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/ -- Kévin Raymond (shaiton) GPG-Key: A5BCB3A2

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[Insight] Meeting canceled Tue Jan 17
by Paul W. Frields 15 Jan '12

15 Jan '12

The team members at FUDCon Blacksburg (which is, well, most of the team!) agreed to cancel this coming Tuesday's meeting. We'll meet on January 24th as usual. This week we'll publish notes from our session at FUDCon and plan for our upcoming work on Insight. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com

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Join with fedora-insight introduction
by Buddhike Kurera 11 Jan '12

11 Jan '12

Hello Team, I am Buddhika Kurera[1] more info can be found at my userpage. By reading FAmSCo meeting logs I understood that fedora-insight needs support, so decided to join with the team and support as much as possible. Being frank I am new to fedora-insight. I m a member of FAm, FWN and mkt teams (and also a member of design team yet not an official member but I am sure I am doing well there as well) therefore when reading the insight project page[2] feel like I can do something. I ll be leaning about the team work and tasks and will join with assigned task soon. My interests laid on web development with PHP, graphic design, CSS design. Further I was contributing to DocBook project[3] as well. Therefore I am familiar with DocBook as well. Therefore seems like I can do something with the project. Please help me to find a task as I have noted above as my preferences. Thanks for the support. [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Bckurera [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Insight [3] http://www.docbook.org -- Regards, *Buddhike Chandradeepa Kurera(bckurera)* Fedora Ambassador Sri Lanka Event Liaison - Design Team *Email*: bckurera(a)fedoraproject.org | *IRC*: bckurera * *

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[Insight]: meeting minutes, 2012-01-10
by Pascal Calarco 10 Jan '12

10 Jan '12

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[Insight] Can't make today's meeting
by Paul W. Frields 10 Jan '12

10 Jan '12

Hi guys, This is a compressed work week for me with FUDCon travel coming up. So I won't be able to make it to today's Insight meeting at 4pm ET. However, I will see Pascal and Peter at FUDCon, along with anyone else who chooses to take part in our hackfest or a related talk. If someone else wants to take over today's meeting I will definitely check in to see the logs for info afterward. See you in a couple days! -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com

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[Insight] Features update and feature sets
by Peter Borsa 09 Jan '12

09 Jan '12

Hi! As I said it on Insight meeting, I would create some feature sets by this weekend but there is an update for Feature module. So I updated that module some minutes ago and I will create those sets few days later or at FUDCon Blacksburg. -- Peter Borsa http://asrob.net gpg fingerprint: EF52 EF5D 9604 E11C 8219 242B AB24 5B0B C6CD 1242

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Fedora Insight: Calendar use cases Hackfest @ FUDCon 2012 Sunday, Jan. 14 @ 0900
by Pascal Calarco 03 Jan '12

03 Jan '12

Hi folks - The Fedora Insight team has been working on some of the use cases for a project-wide calendar[1]. These ideas stemmed out of some IRC discussion when we found out about the Fedora Calendar needs that Clint Savage and Adam Williamson articulated[2] some time ago. So, what we would like to accomplish during FUDCon Blacksburg later this month is to meet with you folks -- some representative stakeholders who will be attending FUDCon - and see if we have all of the requirements for the use cases captured adequately. We would like to invite you, as a group, to the Hackfest at 0900 on Sunday, January 15 during FUDCon Blacksburg[3]. We are going to tackle the near-term use cases first: 1) Fedora Team Meetings: For any given Fedora Project team, any CLA-signed member of the Project will be able to check availability and schedule IRC meeting rooms on irc.freenode.net. User will be able to filter on team, as well as other Fedora event and other happenings, such as release schedule. 2) Fedora Release Schedule: For Fedora releases beginning with x, Insight will provide ability to enter key dates for upcoming release cycle milestones. User will be able to filter on team, as well as other Fedora event and other happenings, such as team meetings. 3) Fedora Events: For Fedora Events[4], any CLA-signed member of the Project will be able to enter upcoming Fedora Event details into the Calendar. User will be able to filter on Region for events, as well as other happenings, such as release schedule and team meetings. Could you please let us know if you will be able to join us for perhaps a one hour discussion of the above use cases? Thanks! Yours in Fedora (Insight), Peter Borsa Pascal Calarco Paul Frields --------------- [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Insight_use_cases_for_calendar [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Herlo/Fedora_Calendar_Project_Desired_F… [3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Blacksburg_2012#Sunday.2C_January_15

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